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Stock Report for the Denver Nuggets ahead of the NBA all-star break | DNVR Nuggets Podcast



Stock Report for the Denver Nuggets ahead of the NBA all-star break | DNVR Nuggets Podcast

Oh baby man let’s go felt like that game would never end hang on I got to warm up my airb are we are we longest my everyone what is everybody Welcome to the losers go let’s go hell yeah dude nuggets fall to the Sacramento Kings 135 to 106 wooo the

Nuggets are good at losing big yeah nobody nobody does it big quite like the Denver Nuggets certainly not the good teams but the Nuggets you know what a loss is a loss whether it’s by one or a million and the Nuggets lost by a million tonight to the Sacramento Kings

Plenty of excuses we’re going to make all of them tonight and to help me make excuses for the team I got b a vote listen I just don’t believe in accountability and I think the best way to handle this as media is uh you know

To just have no opinion so uh let’s make a bunch of excuses together and I’m excited to do it with you guys man I can’t wait for the excuses you’re going to drum up over there D Lano uh the rest are bad uh the not yet not yet oh save

Them do you have some excuses I got I have some excuses I started off with my topic one of my excuses is how bad the Nuggets played did that does that count uh that is an excuse It’s actually the real reason um this was a really dumb

Game really dumb game um let’s relive it though you guys with a fast breakdown this is going to be a really fast breakdown though bro I stopped taking notes when the game got out of hand so in the what the first quarter no first quarter was great AG feasting holiday

23 Julian is back I love this julan is back you guys go he physically I have a note in here joic taking over with the bench in there you guys remember how good he was in the first quarter he was taking over according to my notes uh then Julian ran into

Joic yeah it starts to get bad here you guys it it starts to get really bad yic back to the locker room Kings hit a three pton Watson turned it over on the inbound Kings hit another three that was actually the biggest of the really the N

Were up nine points I have to yeah the nine points in the first quarter they were actually killing them they were up more than that but they were up nine points point they give up a three pton makes a horrible turnover straight to Malik monk at the three-point line like

If if pton would have just thrown the ball into the rafters Denver would have been up six at the end instead he throws it right to Malik Buck who drains another three and all of a sudden the nuggets are only up 3532 at the end of one then Payton Watson got three fouls

You guys remember that really early in the second quarter long rest for joic King starting to take a lead nuggets getting worked wow I feel like I’m watch feel like you feel like you just watch you’re taking me right back I feel like I’m downstairs we don’t have highlight you

Know right so I have to describe it inid detail the way deer of the mind hold I do have I do have one more note in here Zeke at the four next to yic I don’t even have any notes about how it went just that it happened it did

Happen uh dine what’s your big takeaway I in all sincerity this game the wheels came off and it was I tweeted this and I believe this scheduling backto backs in the NBA is theft it is theft for the fans it is theft for all people involved

That it was not a competition that was so barsal the thing that we just watched the Denver Nuggets obviously came in with an emotional low we talked about it in the pregame I didn’t I said that I didn’t like the Nuggets chances tonight I mean I didn’t anticipate them getting

Blown out to that degree but it just like it’s what are we doing here like what are we doing yeah back Tob backs are annoying they are annoying I’ll push back a little bit Yeah I think you know obviously the backtack is a dynamic in this game to some exent that absolutely

Is true and compounded by the absences tonight right missing kcp and mpj it was always going to be hard so the circumstances are there I think even still understanding the context there’s some room to criticize Denver’s approach in this game and those absences not withstanding

Denver is I think six and4 now on the second half of in back to backs are they uh this year yeah I think it was you said that was such confidence I saw it from Matt on the timeline so I don’t yeah but I do know if the nuggets have a

Winning record in these situations now it’s compounded by what that game was last night and missing those guys tonight it’s still true that in some of these games sometimes Denver gives themselves a chance and tonight they didn’t you know tonight was a tonight the turnovers were so bad dude such a

Dud so bad and so like that stuff was like maybe backto back catches up to them and they lose this game in the fourth and a tight game and all that but the Nuggets also turn turned in a get blown out effort and they it was sloppy

There were too many turnovers uh the defense wasn’t great and I will so my big takeaway ultimately is I don’t think this tells us anything about the ceiling of this team but I do think one feature of this year this Denver Nuggets team is there are some games where they just

Turn the car off in the middle of the freeway they’re like f it we’re not getting there in time that no one’s enjoying this drive we’re done and and and that’s look it’s frustrating to watch I don’t know if it tells you much about they’re cealing but there have

Been some games this one is one in the knck game where they’re like you know what we’re not doing tonight winning this game and so I I think there’s still some room to criticize their approach even if you understand the context of how this loss went down

Um your I your point might be my big takeaway which is this is now the fourth 20po loss of the season they had another one of 19 points yeah I always am this is a trade of the Denver Nuggets and I actually don’t think it means anything in fact it’s

Kind of cool it kind of disguises the Nuggets even last year their net rating wasn’t crazy and if you look at the Nuggets who now fall sadly the fourth in the Western Conference above them are the Thunder plus 7.8 not net rating raw plus minus plus 7.8 the Timberwolves

Plus 6.3 the Clippers plus 6.1 they all have basically the same record as the Nuggets who are at plus 3.6 the Pelicans behind Denver is plus 4.4 because Denver wins a lot of games by like eight points and they lose more games than most by 25 30 points and it’s

Just like when the wheels are off they’re off and I honestly don’t think it means anything we talk about economy emotion I feel like there’s almost an economy emotion of these as well where it’s like we’re going to lose what does it matter if we lost by 40 which by the

Way as a fan stes yeah not the best viewing experience but I do think it is a trade of this team that I think frustrates me more than it concerns me as far as what it tells me about who they are and this one didn’t even

Frustrate me just cuz as dine said it is a bit of a one of those ones where you never want to concede defeat going into a game although it is noteworthy that both Harrison and Dev took tonight off yeah dude they looked at the schedule and were both like hey man that second

Game of that back to back where they’re in Sacramento can we can I be off that day and I was like why it’s a good game Sacramento man Kings the Kings the fo match up with Murray what are you talking about guys um but I think there’s another thing about backtack

That really was about tonight again I don’t think it means anything but Denver’s legs were a little tired tonight I don’t think they were super tired I think they were grouchy I think their mind like when you’re when yoke is tired he gets technical fouls yeah when

Yoke is tired is when he starts to do like frustration things and tonight man there were two moments in this game when the wheels came off one was the pton Watson turnover that was just an absolute like momentum Crusher that those two the the three that went before

It then the turnover then the other three is a momentum Crusher the other one was joic getting a tech Y and then Murray coming and getting backto back unforced turnovers that was like Denver if you remember in the second half actually had closed the Gap they were

Down 10 and I think they closed it to five or four not like a huge one but a little one yoke and and look I think that yoke should have gotten the foul on that play although we’ll talk about it in a second gets a technical foul out of

FR gives up a fast break layup then gets a tech so that’s a three-point play Murray comes down with two turnover they scor and it was over so those two moments and I think both of those are mental fatigue more than physical fatigue and I think that’s a real thing

In the NBA oh for sure I mean it this again like yes more so than it just being a backtack a backtack after an emotional swell of a game like there is just no hope they they were just drained in their brains were drained they just they gave out you know there

Was such a a big I don’t know it was just last night was momentous and tonight was just like oh man I mean we were talking about it in the pregame like we felt it we felt like low like Brendan vot had to get pumped up by listening to Creed for God

Being the PE of the night yeah the peak of the night was Creeds wide open which one was it My Sacrifice which My Sacrifice you know what my sacrifice was was watching this game is and they’re doing this show My Sacrifice yeah no it uh it’s real the

Thing is that um you know sometimes easy to forget can’t be forgotten these are human beings human beings um and they were very human tonight in the worst way so um but I agree with you that game ended on that yic technical foul that was absolutely the end of the Nuggets

Competitive period um the wheels completely fell off at that point the one thing that I will say that I really am disappointed in in this game is that there were a lot of guys that got real run tonight that don’t typically and they didn’t show out at all nobody

Not one person stepped up in a positive way that make you look at it like oh right okay cool like that guy that’s somebody that you have that didn’t even really play last night that you know is getting an opportunity is get making the

Most out of it even if we lose the game there’s that bright side there’s that silver linting there’s not a single Silver Lining to tonight so let’s go through the list of guys you’re talking about first and foremost I would say was pton Watson who we were wanting him to

Get the start last game and it a holiday tonight with two players out by the way we should mention kcp mpj both out tonight that’s a big part of this Not only was it a back toback but also those guys were out so pton Watson gets the

Start and look it wasn’t like he was all bad there were moments in this game where he had some big plays but the fouls first of all I don’t think that he has a foul problem like statistically he doesn’t really seem to have a foul problem but he has had games where

They’ve come in bunches and this was another one where it sucked that he had to get taken out so early cuz I actually think think that was also part of the rhythm of this whole thing was like you’re already short-handed two guys and then Payton Watson gets in foul trouble

You down three guys man we said in the pregame show like his foul trouble was going to be key tonight but I think that that is just a symptom of like that’s what it looks like when Payton wson presses you know it’s not that he gets

14 15 up it’s I’m going to win this game on defense I’m going to make a play a statement play and by the way he made a couple two blocks and a steel tonight three stocks in 20 minutes that just is he is susceptible to that and I think

You’re right that’s the right way to put it they they cluster up and he misses time on the court so that is a goal for him and I do think right now pton Watson might need to just take a deep breath yeah there’s been a lot of pton Watson

Hype and I think rightfully so and intrig and we had him on this show and it was awesome um and I think he is who we all say he is but I also think maybe right now Malone could pull him aside and say hey like let’s you think he

Needs to grab him grab grab a guy and just say hey like let’s take a deep breath and make it make sure that the effort’s there but like let’s make sure it’s a focused a focused effort like it has been um and and again like this is a

Lot of guys played poorly tonight I’m just thinking about pton over the last handful I asked Malone the other day this is like three games back whenever I was at the arena maybe it was two I have no idea I asked Malone about his pton Watson’s mental part of Defense I was

Like does it feel like he’s really picking up the game and Malone immediately goes well you know he committed that foul 90 ft from the basket and then he’s like but to your point he’s been doing and I just thought it was really funny that kind of almost

Leading Malone like it was a bad question by me honestly leading Malone to an answer and he was like no no no no no going the other way did you see that dumb foul that’s how I felt about that play tonight where I don’t want to

Berate a guy over one play it could happen to anybody but it was one of those ones where it’s like yeah but this is the big leagues and when you’re short-handed and you make that play your odds of winning just plummet and that’s so it’s one of it’s like a learning

Experience tonight was a learning experience for the guys and some of them didn’t step up to the plate necessarily and have great nights and pton had some of those tonight like tried to dunk would have been awesome maybe change the momentum also were you going to finish

That you know probably not that was a very audacious dunk um but I I also like these are some of the things that I also love about pton when they work out so it’s just uh you know just talking about this game which did not work out who who

Else whom else would you say uh did not take advantage of their moment tonight I would say uh that uh Justin holl started off it a very positive game he had a couple of good three-point shots early on you’re like Ah that’s a great I love

The fireman he comes in made a couple of uh assists that were nice but like then we got too much fireman he end up like he shot like 10 shots it was like oh man all right come on like like I didn’t love that idea of a fireman Dude too

Much I didn’t love to Too Much fireman a lot of Justin holiday Reggie Jackson like got got some serious like main character syndrome um had some good moments but really like was just doing way too much um Christian Brown had an okay night you know like he was okay he

Had 13 points he was the yeah third leading scorer behind in the context of this game he was one of the better nuggets but he in the in the context of the NBA he was like okay you’re right he was better than Jay Huff tonight he was

Better like right but I mean like I mean truly you know it it the better question is like who had a good game today well there was one more I thought they were going to get to I’m getting I thought you were going through the list here I

Thought you were going to talk about Zeke oh I to me Zeke played in such inconsequential minutes it’s kind of true he had to me Zeke had like a he had a good finish he got about I’m with you actually I thought he was fine he actually played like fine he didn’t look

He wasn’t the complete disaster like he can look sometimes he got like I think a minute and a half or 2 minutes at the four which is like but but then he went right back to being the five well that’s when your Reggie stretch came in cuz

They call a timeout and actually to show you how bad it was this is the truth to show you how bad tonight got Michael Malone was looking for a shot in the arm he was looking for a shot in the arm and he looked down his bench and he was like

My best shot is Zeke Naji at Zeke Naji is my best shot of giving some energy to it and like Zeke poor Zeke is in that scenario but yes to your point Reggie Jack as soon as Z comes in Reggie comes in gets two turnovers in a row they

Don’t even get a a single like pass in the half before they get two turnovers off it Malone’s like ready to throw a chair right it was terrible so he didn’t really he didn’t really get the opportunity that we that least I have been pounding the table for it at least

Give him some semblance of a shot like and then he went right back to the five just immediately has anyone has anyone checked on Minneapolis Keys tonight do you want to explain yeah so at Minneapolis Keys which I believe is that is a one of the most blatantly potentially burner accounts

Say potential here’s the thing it would be a really I mean the internet’s so dumb it would be a good bit oh now a terrible bit don’t do this people to make a burner and act as if you were someone’s bur not not convinced that that isn’t what’s happening yeah it

Could be just dud it is such a like didn’t even bother to cover up the breadcrumbs in fact they’re very big crumbs um what is the name of the burner it it’s Minneapolis keys I think is the name I don’t remember and then uh they tweet a lot about how uh Zeke should

Play more hasn’t gotten the opportunities he deserves maybe it’s Zeke maybe it’s Minneapolis Keys is an alltime bad Alias for somebody trying to disguise themselves who comes from Minneapolis and piano teacher could be could be could also not be Z that’s what I say it’s only following the Denver

Nuggets and Zeke naagi we could which is what I would do if I was pretending to be a zek burer you know what I thought about the other day what’s that the yic brothers oh that Twitter account when they showed up made a Twitter account a co- Twitter account with no Avatar

Called The yic Brothers followed only Jamal muray and then just used it to threaten The Morris Brothers and then de and then deactivated it they got more followers than I got my entire life in like 11 seconds and then they deactivated a day and a half later it’s

Actually an all time thing to happen the all time Twitter moment I I I can’t I was just thinking back so gleefully about that the other day anyway um do you guys remember oh man I didn’t want to get into politics it was like a politics day even though I have nothing

About it you guys remember Carlos Danger it’s a hilarious Alias hilarious one who would your Alias be if you were trying to like disguise yourself check into a hotel you don’t want anyone to know so you say New Jersey tall Bart fiza Bart F Bart fiz that’s my

Alias oh my god do you have one dlight that you ever back in the day when I was in high school we would always sit around you have to come up with your porn name in high school porn name my porn name might came up with for myself was chunk dickw well

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I want to address a couple things in the chat first actually what I want to say is I really appreciate that it wasn’t a question that yoke would play tonight you know what there’s a lot of players and I’m not going to name too many names yeah

Careful I’m not going names that they might see a couple starters out and be like it’s back to back there’s no I’m not I’m not going to say Harrison I’m not going to say Dev I’m not going to say those guys and say you know what I’m

Just going to also sit cuz who would wants to go out there and be humiliated you know on the road the other fans are talking trash about you yo get always it’s never a question he’s always just like we’re probably going to lose tonight but I’m going to go out there

And play and and fight like hell same Witham all uh and shouts to Aaron Gordon for also suiting up uh tonight and at least giving themselves a chance you know I’m telling you man there is something there life is what life is but there is something to uh the mysticism

Surrounding the basketball gods and honoring the game intruding approaching life in the right way call it karma call it whatever you want there is something about like treating people right approaching situations correctly doing what it is you’re supposed to do being rewarded justly or punished as the as

The case might be and yic is for whatever reason so principled in the way that he approaches basketball he you know we we talk about and it’s always talked about that yic and he said it himself treats this as a job um which is the best and worst thing possible it’s

Like the worst If he if you can only view this through an emotional lens and you’re like this is insane like how can this person like only think about this is like the mechanical part of a job but it’s also like he shows up to work man

Like he shows up every day puts his boots on goes to work makes it happen it’s like so I I don’t know it’s just like uh one of the things that makes him one of the greatest athletes that I’ve ever come across is that he’s just principled about the sport and there is

Something too about like whether it’s your workplace or whether it’s and in particular when it’s a team that is like a Brotherhood you’re in the Foxhole with guys and there is something to telling your teammates you guys got this one you’re going to go in Sacramento night

Get your ass kicked yeah that’s you guys not me and so for a guy and like I said it’s the same for a work Play I’m Not Harrison and de have been working very hard they take it rightfully they’re but so I’m not trying to make it sound like

I’m talking about them but I’m just saying there is something about in work where it’s like if somebody doesn’t pick up the slack usually that means everybody else has to pick up a little bit of it and this is I I honestly think that’s part of yok’s principle is he’s

Like I’m not going to let those guys go out there and just lose I’ll go out there and lose with them there’s a responsibility in it and I think a big and and AG yeah absolutely I think a big part of jokic’s MVP Ascension was embrace the responsibility of being who

He is you know which is he just understand is what he told Mike about his purpose right from his teammates to the fans like he just understands that it is his job to to be there and to show up um and and I don’t something like you say job

And it sounds I think he likes the game part too right you he loves basketball he loves competing but it’s the responsibility part of it that he’s like I this is my obligation and I think the the the eye injury is the one that really reminded me of this with yic that

He just played the next game how easily we take that for GR what an what an understandable excuse that would have been for someone to miss a game uh and and yoke just is there and and you never have to doubt it and organiz organizational momentum is a real thing

And Y showing up day in day out in the years when the guys couldn’t what could have been the limbo the dog you know the dog days that last forever yes he didn’t let them go backwards he didn’t let them slide as an organization and so just

That responsibility part of it is what takes him from an all-time talent to an actualized alltime great or part of it I should they you hear nuggets themselves say it when they ever appear on uh any podcast or do interviews it’s like when you look at the best player in the world

Treating this in like never taking a night off it’s like how can you the third best player on the Nuggets feel like you can take a night off when the guy that can do whatever he wants is still pushing himself lifting weights after every game right doing the things

That are you know just without question like you said like you’re not you don’t come into this game being like man is yoke going to play tonight you’re like okay well yic is going to play tonight and then like it trickles down from there and how did and how did his

Comrades respond laying an egg I mean but again kiding am it was like fighting Upstream you know and I I will say so I brought that up initially because somebody said is there any news on yic isai you know there hasn’t been other than that he has been getting a

Treatment on it I don’t know if that treatment continues who I they’ve been on the road now for a couple games so we’ll find out I’m sure a little bit more but he was good enough to play tonight that’s the point is I wouldn’t whatever you want to worry about it the

Wrist injury going play the next night he was yeah that’s what I’m oh yeah yeah yeah exactly that’s the wildest thing he didn’t miss a game his eye looked like a cyborg and but again that’s yo a lot of players would be like I don’t know man

My eyes a little off he’s like you know what I have a million excuses but I’m going to go out there and I just appreciate it um if we do do quickly I joked earlier about the uh we do doo quickly ollipop dude you guys are my

Oldest friends you know that that’s true that’s actually not true we are not your friends no yeah that’s a good point was you’re definitely old I didn’t even consider we do tongue and cheek a little here talk about all of the different excuses though they were down two guys

It’s a real one they were down let’s let’s do excuse Corner let everyone give one excuse uh I’m going to say that ref was letting him beat up on Yol man yes let him beat up on Yol I was a little I felt like you can just what

What do you need to do didn’t close my tab you didn’t close your tab just close it right now yeah go with you all right hey guys see you later uh dine what’s your ex let’s go back and forth let’s play a little pong excuse pong okay um

Uh mpj was out oh kcp was out okay um they played the Lakers last night it was a really emotional win last night cuz it was the statue night let emotional let down um it was a back to back Friday crowd in Sacramento one of the best crowds that’s a tough

Environment man the crowd was really into it tonight um they had to rely on a lot of young players that haven’t gotten a lot lot of run lately that’s a really long distance for a backtack going all the way from La actually it’s pretty close it’s about as close of a back to

Back it was a it was I mean it was a trap game they over they overlooked the Kings the kings are not in their in their at their level they just looked right over them the allstar breaks right around the corner very distracting ready to go Sacrament life Sacramento nightlife is undefeated

Dude got like 5 in the morning they were like hanging out with Greta gerwig’s mother um yeah I think that ref don’t like Yol man I really do and of course uh the the dmvr interview Cur we did it in US pton Watson would have never thrown that turn

Over if it weren for us he was just thinking like what probably happened is the the Searing Bright Lights of this set were still they probably like you know sunspots in his eyes still they do have uh so now we have two nights off which is kind of nice right Denver

Always plays well when they get a little bit of a break I actually think everybody I saw in the chat a lot of people saying oh Denver needs the All-Star break in the worst way guys spoiler alert everybody does man like everybody has an NBA schedule everybody’s tired I will say I think

There’s reason to be optimistic that Denver had all that time off leading into the Lakers game then it’s a little back toback then they get two nights off they play Monday they play is it Thursday and then they get a little break uh for the All-Star break I

Actually think Denver’s going to play very few games between I don’t know February like 4th and February 20th be so their break really is going to be great I actually think it breaks nicely for Denver that their their players should come back from the All-Star break

With quite a bit of rest and and you know more than most even will they Rusty no no but I honestly no like we saw what they look like against the Lakers when they had a little r they all had a little dud the Nugget going to

Swan they are these mofos are definitely going to do exactly what they did last year I disagree I hope you well Michael Malone did too because Michael Malone said I think we got bored last year he goes you know the thing about last year we were up to eight games in the

Standing I think the guys were bored he wasn’t bored I know but he’s like on the Whip and the guys are like guys dude chill to secure the first seed this time yeah but he couldn’t motivate them last year what makes him think he can this

Year he no the point is he can’t but the standings standings they can’t be a four seed I listen I I I would I so you think they’re going to be a four seed cuz if you think they’re going to be bad in the down the stretch they

Might be AED cuz they’re currently the four seed no they might be a four seed you think they’re I don’t think they’re going to let go of that rope man I hope you’re right listen I I I mean I think I to be to be clear and to State clearly I

Believe they will win the title but they might do it as a force you you know how seldomly that happens I bet didn’t the the Warriors do something like that like not that long ago like a few years ago I don’t remember the last team to do it actually

They probably I’m trying to remember I don’t know um you guys want to do a little ston report let’s do it this is for the whole season you know we’re looking at the last little bit here last little bit um you know take that for what you will let’s start at the top

Niika yic where are you guys where are you fellas going little ston report yeah he’s fine that cursed image ston down you say down [ __ ] my bad okay he’s just Dr honestly even if it’s technically down it’s still up you know what I mean like what are you

Like I don’t know yeah he’s great he’s doing just fine what do you think Eric yeah dude yok it’s just like Apple stock you’re like it’s like it’s it’s and then you’re like he has a bad night it’s like still glad I bought it all those years ago that’s crazy so

True sometimes it’s not up as much as it usually only shipped 4 billion iones this year instead of 4.6 like they per we really are the people in the cartoons with the ticker tape that are just sitting there counting our bu every night enjoying yoke uh I actually agree

With you guys I think his stock is up you know whatever the statistics say I the more I watch the NBA and watch his career the more I’m like the stats don’t really tell the story they’re fun but yoke can have a triple double and it

Could be an okay night he can have 50 point you know whatever they don’t tell the story I just feel like yoke confident in control and I also not to put too much on his shoulders I feel this year more than any other year that

Yoke is saving the fast balls I think so too you know what I mean like he goes out there and he doesn’t give his best stuff against the best hitters cuz he’s like you see it every now and then you’ll see and I thought this is was

Really one of my big takeaways about that last game is I felt like he could have gone at ad more but the few times where he went at him he made it look so easy that you were like oh yeah he could probably do that 20 more times per game

If he wanted and he’s just like N I don’t want him to see the fast ball too much I agree especially when part of his fast ball is getting it done in the post which can be a grueling thing uh and as we talked about he doesn’t really miss

Games yeah so I do it’s it’s the economy of movement thing right that we’ve talked about and I think yoke in a way that we really haven’t seen outside of maybe LeBron uh just in terms of this specific thing is I just think he has his finger on that pulse

Like how much is required at any given moment in time maybe my favorite yic thing to the point you were making about stats vers impact is right now he’s an MVP favorite and the MVP favorite and like what’s his what’s his in in the era of stat inflation and like everyone’s

Getting 40 plus now and there’s got all these 60 point games and 70 point games what’s yol’s high this year there I don’t know probably 35 you know what I’m say maybe he still clear2 42 we’re still clearly the best player in the league right so it’s like it’s

Almost still it’s as yic as ever right him validating that like all that other stuff that’s going on is almost like you guys got it wrong you know what I mean jokic’s impact on winning right now is as clear as ever because it’s not contingent upon like oh he scored 60 you

Know dude he is just a he just exemplifies mastering a craft he knows exactly what to do he is in such control at all times it is so amazing to watch yic at work and know that TR and no truly with multiple data points that can

Back up and you’re not just like hoping it’s true you know it’s true that even when he’s playing low it’s probably intentional in some way or another like you know that he has such Supreme command over everything that’s going on that if there’s something appears to be off like there’s probably a reason

Behind it it’s not just just like oh man like he can’t do it it’s like yeah he’s just like he kind of wck he knows the score here um when things are possible like he gets them done the the inevitable part of yic is that like he just understands so clearly every

Environment and every scenario he’s a part of and he’s just it’s just I’ve never seen an athlete in more control of every environment that he’s in it’s unbelievable yeah so like a night like tonight we were like man and kind of whatever it’s like yeah he he didn’t

There was no point yeah there wasn’t a point after a while let’s take a break on the other side we’ll continue the ston report we’ll do Jamal Murray Aaron Gordon and all the fellas oh boy Harrison St St actually stock up the smartest man Devon Harrison they’re

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With fubo go to www. fubotv.com dnvr to sign up get 15% off of your first month of fubo pro I do best best uh oh we’ll save it for super chats all righty um Jamal Murray fellas stock up or down Jamal Murray a this a tough one right now I

Feel like it’s not okay cool for me I’m saying so can we discuss the parameters here is this career or no no no this is like you know is it trending up or trending down like recent yeah I that’s how I I actually feel like he’s yeah

You’re right I don’t know why I he’s getting better he’s getting better I think I feel like I feel like we’re getting closer to m i me yeah did tonight tonight see this is a fun exercise to do after you lose by 40 cuz tonight they’re all down but it’s so

True there’s nobody up tonight but just 24 hours ago Murray sure looked good against the Lakers so I do think in general he’s been trending up no question no question Jamal Murray showed you revealed to you his true form again it’s just it’s a it’s a tough life being

A day-to-day Jamal Murray fan day it’s like being a day trader yeah it really is you can’t do that you got you got to be the right you’re like oh we got killed today and then the next day you’re like Bitcoin through the roof let’s buy a yacht yeah totally uh but

Jamal Murray has got the goods he is the truth he just you don’t always tell the truth you know sometimes the truth just isn’t doesn’t reveal itself till when it’s needed so it’s but I mean come on Jamal this is the part that’s so annoying this man should be a GD Allstar

Yeah it it I feel like when all is said and done we’re going to look back at Jamal and say like what a great athlete what an amazing player was never an Allstar like perennially underrated but it’s like he he does it to himself he just like doesn’t show up night toight

But his ceiling is so high but those ceilings are arriving those Peaks are arriving a little bit more frequently and statistically to kind of try to prove this he had 13o game in his first 23 games of the year one 30o game he’s had four in the last 14 yeah there we go

And then he’s also had a 29 9 Piece against the ler that doesn’t even count but that was a 29 piece a near 30 piece so yes the inconsistency is still a little bit there but I do feel like those Peaks are coming a little bit more

And I’m optimistic that we’re going to I mean look I think the Nuggets need it for Murray down the stretch they need him to start ramping up in my opinion especially if they want to be a top one or two seed um and I think he’s starting

To round into form a little bit more uh Aaron Gordon I feel like this is the easiest one cuz I feel he sneaky was one of the slower guys out the gate dude his the turnaround point for Aaron Gordon is the wildest part of this entire season he

Was not that great got attacked by his own dog came back and has been like a steady straight up since then I I can’t explain it except for it’s exactly what happened yeah maybe uh everybody out do yeah everybody out there taunt your dog tonight you want to be a peak performer

What do you think what would do you think AG would think if he knew that became a story for him that people were a narrative people were like think he would laugh and find it cool I think a would laugh at that one it’s true we

Want from us man facts are facts bro we’re going to do this like yoke mess it’s like when Jamal gets mad about the inconsistency it’s like hey man you did get we got wait till AG gets bit by some kind of animal this year before we start

To really look at like Mary dog to you uh and then obviously he Jokes Aside one thing maybe it’s not a joke maybe it’s directly related but one thing we’ve been talking about is just how good he looks athletically and I think for him to look that good heading into the

All-Star break is a good sign for Denver he hasn’t looked good until the Dog Days oh my God these are these are the Dog Days let’s go let’s go that joke yeah gosh this the dumbest show J Merc no one’s watching there’s dozens of people in the

Chat right now okay um are we going Michael Porter Jr how recently are we going one game back or we going five games back no we’re going like 10 games you know we’re talking about like if you were to like plot the season are we going up or down wait who Michael Porter

J uh okay last night based off the last time we played it’s an obvious up but if I’m keeping it real about the last handful of performances I think he’s been trending neutral to down yeah but I think generally speaking I feel really good about that last performance so I don’t

Know how much I want to weigh that you know what I’m saying yeah man uh it’s been a rough like stretch for mpj and last the the greatest thing I mean right now this game was so the last time we saw him play he was fantastic yeah he was exactly what the Nuggets

Needed him to be he was nails when it mattered Difference Maker absolute Difference Maker so from that standpoint you have to feel like it’s going a little bit up but it has been down like mpj mpj has been in a quite a low and I was getting a little nerv a little bit

Nervous about him but then you just see that stroke and it goes in and his ability did not be blocked and you know all of the things that make Michael Porter Jr just such a world-class player you get a little taste of that and you’re like all right fine we’re back

Back in truth it’s been just the one game but I think in my heart I think we’re headed this way I think it’s a good well your heart I mean yeah f it throw it out throw it out just I here’s the thing about Mike is he has appeared

52 consecutive games this season right he broke that streak tonight oh damn was this was his first Miss game of the season oh I didn’t even think about that yeah he had 52 games he played which I mean 52 alone is really good that’s amazing I think we set his line at like

60 or something at remember we were talking about how many games will we play I think we were all like 60 I don’t know so um knock on wood you know he’s made it to 52 I think he might just need a break as when we talk about the

Nuggets need a break everybody in the NBA needs a break he might be number one on the list of like you know well earned he needs a little time off come back and he’s what do you think Mike’s doing for vacation feel like Mike goes back to Missouri and shoots Hoops I

Think he does just gets shots up talks to Jesus as a child gets him religion man it’s his religion kcp I got to be honest fellas yeah it’s a little like there another guy that I think needed some rest and I don’t think I wanted to see it in the form of a

Hamstring strain particularly if I had my choice but I do think uh kcp the engine running a little low he plays so hard on both ends of the floor every time he’s out there it’s a guy that doesn’t really take games off and that can include running SC a gauntlet of

Screens to guard a Steph or a Dame but I think it’s caught up to him just a little bit here yeah he’s uh he’s still battling he still like brings it nightly on the defensive end um I was yeah the so that from that standpoint it’s been a really

It’s been a really positive season the entire time he’s gotten recognition on the defensive end more so than his any other time here I feel like for for an extended period for his tenure with the Nuggets but his offense has been like pretty absent or at least like pretty

Inconsistent more so than it’s been in the past so from that it’s to me that’s like it’s kind of like net neutral like he’s still the ultimate glue guy he’s like completes the the top five but there haven’t been a lot a lot of like really standout moments from him of late

That that that really come to mind um but he’s still a really great player and you know like I I feel like he’s still exactly what they need I I just don’t feel like he’s like reaching New Heights it feels weird to say up for those

Reasons but I will say man I think his defense like his thing is that the Nuggets don’t really need his offense outside of the lines that he stays in and so it’s hard to say he’s been down or up because so little offensively is asked for him and he seems to deliver

Exactly the amount he needs to but defensively is where he stands out you know who we didn’t talk at all about in the last week an Freddy Simons who lights up a lot of guys guys you just don’t you know not really making remember when they played Damen lard in

Milwaukee like no he’s I mean he’s legit but he’s been like that way the whole time he’s been here I actually think some of that’s slipped a little bit recently not not tons by the way not tons I just and I feel great about kcp I I honestly think he just needs the

All-Star break because he’s been busting his ass um all right let’s go down to the bench you guys Reggie Jackson man I I kind of think up honestly you think up I kind of do Reggie Jackson stock up huh interesting well it started we we started a fake campaign the

Nuggets did and we kind of followed suit with the idea that he would win six man of the year I’m first 10 first 10 games were really good I’m off that just to be clear I don’t think he’s Sixth Man of the Year you don’t think he

Is he then hit quite a ner do you know when his best Sixth Man run was when Jamal was out he was starting when he was starting it’s a really good point to start my counter argument at any place when he was the number one um he had a

Really terrible stretch yeah but he’s he’s been trending up I tonight was not a great night for him uh he had a good game last night he’s just I I feel more like if he had not rebounded at all I think we all would have been pounding

The table pretty hard to to make a trade happen um which was kind of brought up and everybody was sort of ta it about um so kind of I don’t know I think he has rebounded at least to the place where he wasn’t he’s not as good as he started

But he’s he’s I love that Eric’s case made you go down I think you’re right he’s only scored in double figures three times in the last 11 games and that was 13 16 and 13 I look it’s not major down but I will say that I’m a little I’m a

Little concerned with Reggie I don’t I’m a little concerned I’ll tell you who’s not concerned Michael Malone Michael Malone has his back man Michael Malone always comes to bat for Reggie yeah it Fells a bit more like a harnessed chaotic energy to start the year and now that’s a little less tonight well

Tonight was just pure chaos it’s hard some of this is like the the reason C bias from tonight is tough to overlook some really a little already like thrown tonight’s game out as if it didn’t matter it’s really tough because the bench minutes have generally been so terrible and then Jamal and Reggie

Pairing hasn’t really worked but it just feels like some of those 13 14 point games haven’t had a ton of positive impact like he’s not the best defender on the team and some of those shots you kind of blink your eyes three times at you know sometimes that rules but I

Don’t uh Payton Watson I’m going to say just the last two to three last man you guys this is funny cuz it’s like all about how you that’s it you’re doing two games as the I don’t know yeah it’s it’s an undefined thing his his stock has

Been like and like the last two it’s been like but like overall the trend is is up most assuredly I was going to say I feel like if if you do say two I think maybe two two or three game I don’t even remember then maybe that but I mean

Usually you would say like 10 game sample yeah sure if you want to do that I mean I I’m buying first of all I’m more interested in buying paint Watson stock than ever yeah this is a little like if you were like how’s your Apple stock it’s down really like yeah this

Morning it was down like oh but I mean in general oh way up all right you’ve convinced me yeah in general it’s way I mean pton Watson we didn’t know what his role was going to be at all to start the year and now he’s in sconed as a a

Rotation player like he will not and he’s only getting more and more uh Trust From the Bench uh meaning Michael Malone uh and the coaches but I mean tonight not not good not not a good game tonight DeAndre Jordan you guys this is an easy one in

My opinion is it I mean he’s just like neutral to me oh he’s like exactly what I thought he was what is he to you I mean I just think it’s down it’s down in that the Nuggets whenever they play Zeke or DeAndre it’s like a concession there’s almost no nights where you’re

Like maybe they’ll win these minutes it’s it’s more like let’s survive those minutes as a neutral or maybe a plus one I just don’t that like um bailout game I I don’t expect that ever I don’t ever expect a game where I’m like he’s going to really play well that’s why I would

Say it’s like down um yeah sure I mean I think it’s just been what the backup center M have been all year what were you expecting I guess you could just say down if you want just Evergreen is there no more point to do anybody else seek Dody I do

Think DJ was pretty good last night CHR Christian Brown oh we not done Christian Brown oh Christian Brown I forgot Christian Brown uh if I forgot him that might be a I actually I actually think in this last week tonight’s not a great exam tonight’s not a great exam all

Right so let’s debate I’m down on Brown well you are really down on Brown I’m down you actually evicted yourself from Brown town I’m down on Brown dude I am down on Brown would you say you’re down on Brown I’m down on Brown like I love

His heart I love his hustle I like the intangible things he brings I just I am not seeing one bit of improvement I’m going to eat up all your stock like you’re selling your stock right now I’m going to take every single one of them sure and like part of this

Is just expectation I don’t have like high hopes for him to develop as a player but I think what he already does is really really valuable and he’s not doing it as much this year I think some of that’s role some of this different stuff but I just I’m buying the stock

Cuz I think he is going to be a player that looks really good alongside other good players and a guy that looks really bad alongside other bad players and guess what he plays with mostly this year yeah I I agree with chat I think um Malone’s recent conversation with him

Seems to have paid off I think there was a reentering of like the approach and where his effort the distribution of his effort and where his focus should be concentrated and tonight was bad like again that’s what makes this exercise so funny where are you starting from how

Much do you weigh what you just saw so that’s we’re all going to have some different opinions but I do think generally speaking CB has shown better flashes of high impact rebounds really good defensive possessions of late than I’d seen all all year um so I actually

Do think it’s up like I I like the way he played last night and I like the way he’s played lately here here’s a take it’s possible that Christian and pton are swapping roles right now where early in the air it was like Christian you’re going to run point guard you’re going to

Dribble and try to get in there and see and and pton you’re just going to defend and I almost wonder if now it’s like Payton try to explore your game a little Christian don’t you know reduce your game just I wonder if those guys switch a little bit we almost flip and it’s

Like oh Christian’s now not making mistakes and Payton is because he’s trying stuff I could totally see that happening here over the next bit but I just we saw Christian help the Nuggets win a championship played an all but four games I believe in the he played in

16 of the 20 games last year like a real meaningful minutes and was good he even won them a Finals game you know like was a what did he have in that finals like 16 points or something like that like he had a so Finals MVP ladder baby he was

Number five so I was he at after like three games oh after three games he like made an appearance on he number on the you’re talking about a former Finals MVP candidate like I’m just he was in the convers he was in the conversation at one point so not going to just listen

I know that’s what I’m saying like I I am astounded that this year has looked the way it has after the last year ended the way it did I am astounded by it and I don’t like I after watching years and years of basketball I just that when as

Soon as a player stops progressing it’s just a terrible sign but he was good enough at what he was cuz here’s my thing is there are players out there who can’t get better but they’re good enough and I think he might be a player that’s like I think he can

Get better at like catch and shoot finishing at The Rim understanding the game but I don’t know that he’s going to be a guy that’s just a great ball handler or great like off the dribble passer or like has great vision I don’t think he’ll be that guy but his skill

Set is still good enough to be useful including on this team and I think it’ll get there don’t you think it’s the Peter principal you rise to the level of your own incompetence and like he’s this year was about Rising above his role and it’s like yeah that’s we got to knock you

Well in basketball you can actually a guy yeah yes but I I don’t know I I’m perhaps I’m too low I perhaps I should retain some of my stock I we’ll negotiate after the it’s already sold cool that we disagree you know no it’s fun to disagree I just I I just can’t

Believe that I’m not seeing his defensive efforts really make any difference I just feel like every time like every night I just watched his guy rise up shoot over him without any real difficulty I feel like the last handful of games though particularly when they’ve gone to the playoff rotation

Which is I think to the point you were just making like I don’t is my P is my Christian Brown in a fiveman or fourman bench lineup stock up no but you crunch it down to eight and he’s out there with guys like kcp and Aaron Gordon or even a

Kcp which is way less likely excuse me I think Brown and Watson have had some real defensive Duo moments lately so I think he’s you want to hear a crazy stat yeah yo uh Twan pairings net rating wise this year number one is Jamal Murray number two is Christian Brown obviously there’s

An enormous amount of noise in this like that Brown’s probably playing with like very good joic lineups not like crummy little ones but I just think there is something too like CB when you have a joic and a Murray on the court they take care of so many of the things that he’s

Not good at and he’s really good at the things that they need him to pick up the slack for so I just think he’s going to be one of these guys that looks really good here’s what take here’s my my bold prediction on Christian I’ll bet you he

Is the biggest playoff Riser this year I bet it’s Jamal Murray proba Jamal maray but he’s probably the second biggest playoff Riser this year listen it’s entirely possible this man is a died in the wool winner he is one and everywhere he’s gone he is showed us he

Is absolutely Nails in the biggest moments there are is no like if I didn’t watch every single game and I just saw him in the finals and then I watched him at this point moving forward this year I would be like that’s the guy it’s just I

Cannot I’m just astounded that we’ve not seen him rise consistently it’s it’s jarring to me because I really love the style of player he is he’s a consumate professional he’s a glue guy he’s all these things that like any team needs to be successful and to be uh to work and

Be cohesive but I just am astounded he’s not bringing more and he’s not improving I it’s just it’s it’s jarring to me you guys there were some sickos watching the game tonight I love ouros if you’re currently watching this show you’re 45 minutes into a show

That’s at 11:30 at night after a 30 something Point loss you are a if you’re watching the show send your cash app we will send you $10 million each everyone everyone in the chat st stop being a huge jerk oh my God stun is so up are

There jerks in the chat even jerks even the jerks thank you for being here we love you that’s why I don’t read the chat all right let’s read some super chats you want to talk about the Crim dude oh I already know this is going to be a great BJ

Maay BJ mes we’ll get him next time boys have a great weekend love it I love you that’s real BJ mle’s attitude right there bubbles buzzer beater I still don’t think Jordan McCrae was a culture fan he wasn’t man that’s an alltime Super Chat the worst part is that Jordan

McCrae played one game he played well hang on he had a bunch of Threes man I was like February 9th 2024 yeah hey man what you do you call him super $50 Super Chat are you serious dude this is the ultimate sicko what a absolute homie uh

Nikola nuggets I agree that the ref doesn’t like Yol Zack beat him with impunity this is a problem worth discussion even though the Nuggets played miserable this is yol’s burner this is yoke watched in the show like he’s like I got 50 bu the fact that

Yic did not get a fou call there was unconscionable and but made a point he he wanted that Tech man he wanted he wanted the tech they honestly let him play a lot tonight there that play here’s what I’m going to say every other player gets that call

But it’s my least favorite call right if there’s one call that I wish the NBA would take away is that they would call the way they called it for yic only and nobody else in the NBA for some reason where it’s like when a guy’s sliding his

Feet but doesn’t reach and then you kind of beat him to the spot and so you bump again every other player gets that call but if there was one call I’m not going to like freak out over it’s that one but I thought there was like a dozen other

Ones tonight that he got fouled on that he didn’t but you know what sucked you what I love about y That’s why we hit that hard and a lot of their wins though you know can I tell you this though here’s what my honest belief about it

And I think it’s the approach everyone every nuggets fan and every yic fan should take it’s not that it’s fair because it’s not I agree with you guys that he gets a tough whistle man he just does but I honestly think it makes yoke better I do think all these losers get

All these stupid dumb calls and then the play around they don’t get them and they freaking Wilt and Yoke’s like there’s no difference this is how I am all the time and just I it’s exactly right Mur who are the greatest uh whistle merchants of the past decade Jo Jo Los Joel embiid

And J both come up so small when the going gets toughed and the whistle is not blowing we got a part two Nichola nuggets paid another $50 just to amend his previous Super Chat he’s not saying we haven’t discussed the refs enough he just thinks the fan Bas should stay

Noisy like Darko and ant uh Darko is an is Anthony Edwards in this cont oh Darko no Darko yes Anthony Edwards took the fine remember I know they’re going to find me and Darko the coach who remember went out and gave that hilarious rant and they only find him 25,000 which was

Pretty great only that would ruin my life not saying it I would never I would never recover financially by the end of the week this is like yeah so it’s is only making 8 million or something you’re like speaking of Eric’s life this next Super Chat is from chunk dickw

Well super one from BJ malaise the other from chunk dickw well don’t ever say all the F folks were given tonight if you know you know all the folks were’re given tonight chunk this one in the dumpster and move on sickos only sios only there he is the man the The Legend

Oh my God dud chunk dickw well how where have you been my whole life Liz La who I believe made it to the bar tonight uh had a great time at the dmvr bar today that’s a fact regardless of losing we were sitting next to you all at the bar

And had so much fun you guys are the best and always make me laugh I wish said hey I don’t know it’s hard to it’s hard to say anyway we’re so glad you came out and fun came out speak came out uh Julia Simeone from Brazil Super Chat

Thank you jul it’s all she said oh man she up her own Super chats for sure yeah uh The Vibes tonight were they were actually great in the bar they were like irresponsibly high tonight I felt like it was a good like good environment people were like oh the game sucks fine

We’ll hang out there’s times in the dmvr bar where it’s like quiet everyone is paying attention to the game they are cheering at the same time they are chanting and it to tonight was just constant conversation people stopped watching the games it was just about Vibes everyone accepted their fate with

A humility and a smile and a and a Breck Brew Nuggets game nights are really fun right now at the dmbr bar man vr’s great we just need to blast a little more Creed are we reading it oh yeah 55555 is chat stock up Super Chat

Stock up Vive stock let’s go let’s go chat stock up chat’s been awesome tonight I you know I mean life as you know constant a constant horror show every moment worse than the last and then but you have the sickos and it just couldn’t be better yeah it’s important

To be sick together Julia amending that Super Chat painful game scrunchy uncomfortable looking an emoji face how would you describe that one I don’t know busted face busted face hope they get a good rest for Monday’s game yeah no doubt I think they will they’re probably not going to rest though they’re going

To party really hard super hard oh they’re going to they’re going to eat 2,000 WS like the rest of us yeah I was going to ask will joic watch the Super Bowl no uh which day in America is worse for your people the birders Thanksgiving or the Super Bowl it’s either the

Chickens or the turkeys that really just get uh that that have a terrible day chicken wings or full turkey bod I’ll feel it Wings there’s way more chicken that goes into Wings you know what I mean like one turkey feeds like an entire family say at chicken wings

It’s like a whole Holocaust of chickens for one one big guy all right should we get out of here what do you guys think is that it all right hit that hit that uh outro music guys we did it made it through a show after a blowout on a late west coast

Game we did it you guys appreciate you hanging out with us we are off for two days we’re going to go watch the Super Bowl rude against the Chiefs probably I don’t know I actually don’t even care we’re definitely deleting this episode I’m glad you saw it live see you Mond everybody let’s Go C like the May

The Denver Nuggets got ran on the second night of a back to back down two starters. Not a lot of good to say about this one. Join us in the Loser’s lounge. Adam Mares, Brendan Vogt, and D-Line Co. come to you LIVE from the DNVR Bar to break down everything you need to know in this edition of the DNVR Nuggets Podcast!

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Adam’s big takeaway – 5:30
Peyton Watson – 10:20
Justin Holiday – 13:15
Zeke – 14:35
Joker is reliable – 20:30
Excuse corner – 26:20
Jokic stonk report – 30:30
Jamal stonks – 37:00
AG stonks – 39:15
Michael Porter stonks – 40:40
KCP stonks – 43:00
Reggie stonks – 45:15
PWat stonks – 47:30
DJ stonks – 48:40
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11 Comments

  1. it is not mysticism, it is good honest work. The team that attempts to win every night (unless you suck) wins more often than not. also we are better than every other team so we have much leeway.

  2. Nikola has the job of being the best player on the floor at all times…he does his job every day. We should never take this shit fore granted.

  3. The nuggets are getting the 1 or 2. we are legit better than every other team. It isn't that hard to muster the effort to beat teams worse than you. It will not always happen but it will happen enough for the 1. We missed Jamal for the first 3rd. We are still better than everyone else.

  4. Whenever you (DNVR) talk about MPJ I think you are not good analysts. He has been incredibly good all year. The shows feelings on his play directly correlate to made shots. That is very important but not the be all end all of good basketball. MPJ has been a awesome for the majority of the year. We are in contention for the 1 seed in a year when the west is a beast. We are awesome…do not get it twisted. Your expected outcome for MPJ is not realistic and it negatively colors your assessment of his games. If he played better he would be an all NBA player and if we had 2 of those it would be worse than the 2017 Warriors.

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