PHILADELPHIA SIXERS: JOEL EMBIID WILL UNDERGO SURGERY ON MENISCUS!!!

PHILADELPHIA SIXERS: JOEL EMBIID WILL UNDERGO SURGERY ON MENISCUS!!!

[Applause] roads Media what is going on everybody welcome on into sports talk with broads all right Sunday night 8:00 when everyone has the Sunday scaries and when people are tuned into the Grammys WS wants to make sure the Philadelphia area has the shittiest Monday ever all right go to

Wawa get your hazelnut coffee get your nice little friend fill whatever you do and be pissed off because the big man who’s playing the best basketball on planet Earth is going to miss some extended period of time it blows it blows and it was the news that seemed

Inevitable right I mean it’s not shocking that we are here based off of the timeline and why did it take so long to get anything new and how come he was seeing three four five different doctors well it’s obvious he wasn’t getting the information that he wanted so let’s

Speak to a couple of different experts to see if maybe there’s some way around this and the answer is you need surgery don’t be fooled by the way the wording is a procedure on a displaced flap you want to know what a procedure on the displaced flap is I’ll tell you for free

My man’s getting surgery on his meniscus and they want to try and water down the me message but reality is that’s where we’re at and I don’t know how long this is going to take it’s possible it could be maybe eight weeks or so which would

Put you right at the back end of the regular season then the question becomes what type of shape is he if he does get to go Full Throttle in the postseason or can the team even make it to the playoffs if you’re just going to run it

Without the big man and now every single day you have a new lineup Tobias Harris out with an illness Robert Covington DeAnthony Melton I haven’t seen them in 56 years furcon cork m is playing way too many damn minutes is Nick Batum available or is he not Nick nurse I have

To imagine is extremely frustrated because at least at least if you know you’re missing Joelle and everything else is together you could figure out what works with that roster and I could hope to God that they could in some regular season games right I mean there’s a lot of bad teams out there

What can happen is you get dominated and blown out by a gross Ben Simmons Le Brooklyn Nets team and allow 136 points to the poor it just can’t happen so I would like to think if you had guys that were consistently in there then Nick nurse could figure out hey that lineup

Was plus 17 last game yo that lineup was minus 12 I didn’t really like what we did that with with that group and hey with the ball handler here Pat Bev maybe we can work some details out with this and you know then there’s some consistency involved to try and gain

Some life and just get to the finish line I’m not talking about doing anything in the playoffs you need Joel without Joel and be you’re screwed I don’t want to hear from anybody that this is Tyrese Maxi’s team that Tyrese Maxi can go do this thing solo time to

Build around Tyrese no no no no no Tyrese Maxi is great and Tyrese Maxi is going to be a superstar in this league but this team isn’t built without Joel for him to go be special first off the emphasis of other teams defense how much they’re going to really stress stop that

Man we’ll live with Tobias we’ll Live with Kelly UB we’ll live with Paul Reed or anybody else trying to clean up the glass Mo bomba okay but Tyrese Max won’t beat us and you know Tyrese is going to flirt in another 40 plus performance and

He has the ability to do that no doubt about it it’s a different type of Beast though in regards to being the guy every single night and you know 23 years old it’s a different type of beast in regards to going to win a championship now that’s more of a conversation on if

You’re going to trade Joel and try and get rid of him and reboost this thing which I totally disagree on the way that I label this is it’s Kyle schwarber right Kyle schwarber is a strikeout machine but he can also hit 50 plus bombs and if you’re in a big time spot

And it’s the NLCS Game seven Bas is loaded you’re down one and there’s two outs I’m taking my swing with Kyle schwarber you know it could be one extreme which in this case would be Joel and B not being healthy but the other extreme is a home run maybe a grand slam

And a big time walkoff at the bank and that would be if Joel and be could ever stay healthy and I know what you’re saying he never stays healthy I know I know that’s why I thought he was do believe it or not you know after so many

Damn years of going through this same discussion there was some belief deep down in me that wondered we we we got to get one lucky bounce the quadruple do Kawai Leonard off the rim five times goes through when do we get our bounce okay because here’s Markel folz elbow

Him in the face here’s Pascal shakum elbing him in the face here’s Joelle needing surgery on both hands how do you operate let me know how you operate in the NBA postseason when you can’t even utilize your hands when can I get Joel healthy we are due and I thought maybe

We could get there but of course I was wrong but anyway the point is with the whole Trey Joel this and that I had a caller last night on WIP bring this up and it it it’s crazy to me he used kawhai Leonard as the example with the

San Antonio Spurs and said well you know Kawai won a championship there prior to Toronto and he had a specific role if we trade Joel and then we have Tyrese play a specific role then we can build around him with assets we get from a Joel trade

And this is why that’s so damn flawed okay first off in that scenario you would need to get every piece every piece that’s in the return be Sensational Tim Duncan Tony Parker janob the list goes on and on that team was Hall of Fame level gross and while Kawai had an excellent role

There he wasn’t the guy the guy is a big difference and if you’re saying Tyrese Max’s just just a roll in an entire system here and and a good scheme and the assets you get back in return for Joelle fills in the other holes that

Means what you get in return needs to be Tim Duncan Hall of Fame Tony Parker one of the best point guards to ever play the game job was excellent in what he brought to the table that is so outrageous you’re never going to get something back in return that’s worth

The value and and also keep in mind here all right Joel embiid’s the greatest right now it’s not even a debate he’s the greatest when on the floor at playing the sport of basketball no one would ever give that up right and I know there’s a qualifier

Here he’s injury proone but let’s remove that for half a second because it shows you just maybe the view around the league the dude can’t stay he’s the best plager on the planet you’d be an idiot to let that walk out of your building so why would the Sixers there’s clearly

Something wrong if you are going to do that I don’t agree with it I’m just letting you know what obviously some of the frustration has been and what some of the noise is and I just think it’s so foolish but in what world would that not

Light off a red flag or why would that not have a big Flash and red light hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on who would give that up there’s something to it and nobody’s naive here obviously there’s a risk

Involved with Joel and some would say it’s worth the risk because his cealing is so high and I agree that’s why I would keep him but yeah you know it’s it’s it’s a lot it’s a very emotional time here obviously I wanted to spend more time on what this means and where

They’re at more so than get them out of town but I I know I’ve taken cause I’ve Seen It All I’ve seen the reaction it’s time to give up on this guy and and I just don’t believe it it’s just annoying that we are here so look it’s better

Than what I think the alternative is now that we’re in this predicament I don’t want to be here but since they’ve had that disaster of playing him in Golden State and asking him to do something when he wasn’t obviously cleared enough to do it regardless of what the medical

Staff says anybody with two eyeballs watching him try and jump and then he falls to the floor and collapses could see that it’s time to make a decision to yank his ass off the court deep down I have one question for Nick nurse and that’s what more did you need to see

Until you realize that this man can’t go and you have to get out in front of what his decision joelle’s decision is because they’re always going to want to play you hear this all the time in the NHL playoffs some guy wins the Stanley Cup well what was he going through he

Needed seven ACL injuries seven ACL surgeries he’s got six collapsed lungs he’s got four broken collar bones and he won the Stanley Cup and it’s like that’s what they play through because they wanton it so damn bad somebody has to get out in front of Joel though in a

Game 42 of a regular season and you’re not even at the allstar break yet and the dude’s falling in front of your eyes it just can’t happen it’s unacceptable but I like this option compared to Let’s re-evaluate in a couple of weeks let’s get no procedure done because then in

Two or three weeks if he’s able to push it you’re going to see straight up that he made zero progress and then we’re back to square one and this may eventually take us to a spot where he can’t even go for the playoffs I’m not

Ruling that out by any means I think my gut tells me though that it’s probably going to be the rest of the regular season he’s put on pause and then you know you see a first round that maybe he filters back through then and I don’t know what version we get at that

Particular time it probably will be something along the lines of the sloppy embid where it wouldn’t surprise me if he still drops 32 and he grabs 12 rebounds but there’s also six turnovers involved and that maybe those six turnovers end up being the reason why you lost and it’s the fourth quarter

There’s three minutes to go he’s not in Rhythm and he’s lost the step because he’s just not able to run so he’s not in a great spot conditioning wise and and all that and it’s like here’s a fast break with three minutes to go in a two-point game now it’s a four-point

Game you you call timeout and you can see the building on the road gain all sort of momentum because of a sloppy turnover that wouldn’t surprise me at all and it’s it’s just a damn shame but it is better just get it get Joel healthy get Joel to be the best that

Joel can be now that we are in this predicament and at least they did that because it wouldn’t have surprised me if they did try and go the extra mile just to get him back on the floor would it surprise anybody else you know at least they got their head on

Straight on that department although they put themselves in this in this problem so will he actually return I I I don’t know I don’t think it’s unfair though to look at that eight week timeline and and apply it as reasonable it’s reasonable now if you’re big on the

Whole social media doctor thing because of course whenever a big star has a big injury the doctors go on Twitter they start quote tweeting things and all and the Pro Football Doc is saying that I don’t see a a way that he’s going to return now I’m paraphrasing a little bit

Prior to seeing W’s report he gave you a potential timeline without getting any procedure done but if there was a procedure done then it does seem like it’s possible you just kind of close the door down and he won’t be back at all and and I don’t necessarily think that’s

A bad idea because then we get a refresh Joel for next year it’s a hard sale to punt this season no doubt about it but if you think about where the Sixers are from a franchise point with contracts and the books and money and opportunity you know it is intriguing to think about

Next season even though I I don’t want to I don’t want to I was ready to fully commit back to Sixers basketball and now just got ripped out of my chest before we even truly got started because we were waiting for the Eagles to finish up

Their highes and to figure out what we were going to get from a coaching standpoint is the head coach staying is he leaving hoe roseman’s press conference and all we were waiting to get that info we pretty much got the substance we were looking for so now it’s time to really embrace the

Basketball team and I’ll still be there every night right like I’m intrigued from just a personal level on how Tyrese Maxi is going to handle this it’s a lot of adversity it’s a lot of pressure but I think the kid can absolutely take that

On and be as great as he can be I I do think we’ll have some exciting moments out of him and now the pressure also applies to darl mury because when you look at the trade deadline and I was always under the idea of let’s just go

Get respectful NBA help in years past guys seven and eight off your bench with Shake Milton and furcon that’s just not going to fly you don’t win NBA postseason games with that garbage coming off your bench very thin now if you can go get a bogdanovich if you can

Maybe go get a Murray which I know tickles people’s fancy I’m not going to give up an arm and a leg for dejonte maray I think he’s a solid player and you can look at his contract and say that it’s not just a one-year thing you know maybe there’s something you can do

He is shooting the basketball better from three this season which is great closer to about 37% compared to a lower dip in previous years i’ I’d be interested but I’m not going overboard if the asking price is so monstrous I’m not going knee-jerk reaction here but there’s two things you

Have to weigh out if you’re Daryl mury if VB does come back and you don’t be aggressive at the deadline well then maybe you hurt your chances to maximize this run and that’s a calculated risk that you have to take and then also just Ty tyes Maxi in general the the kid has

An opportunity sitting right in front of him once again I’m not going to the distance here of saying that this kid’s going to take this city by storm and another asinine call I took was well in 2017 everyone thought the Eagles were done because Carson Wentz went down in

Los Angeles and you know you lost your left tackle you lost some secondary pieces and they surprised everybody with the backup QB why can’t that be Maxi have you watched NBA basketball give me an example cuz I’ll give you a billion examples of when somebody goes down and another team gets

A great a chance and they make the most of it Kevin Durant goes down kawh Leonard does his thing that’s reality that’s the norm yes you can always pick an outlier here and there but it’s the NBA dude Superstar Talent wins championships that’s what it’s about you got to have the superstars out

There give me an example of when a nons Superstar team went in there and just waxed and won a championship doesn’t happen go look at the 01 Sixers Amazing Story AI unbelievable you go up against the Juggernaut you don’t have enough you go up against the Juggernaut you lose that’s what it is

99.9% of the time so if you want to emotionally commit to the 0.1% by all means you’re entitled to do that I’m not going to do that I’m going to enjoy the Maxi experience for what it is because I do think there will be entertainment value but I do also believe that it

Would be nice for Maxi to have as much help as humanly possible without going to the extreme of giving up assets and being stupid with it you also have to weigh in if embid comes back and then you don’t do anything or you don’t do anything that’s wor I don’t know you do

Something that’s that’s so silly or whatever I I mean it could cost you too so you just have to weigh all of that and I’d say I I’m not against as long as the asking price is right doing something that could see if you can hold

The fourth down and and truly help out but you have some tough matchups coming up the Dallas Mavericks the Boston Celtics the Milwaukee Bucks the Golden State Warriors come to town uh you know the the first few games here there’s four games right off the rip with Dallas

With golden state but then you have a Hawks team and you have some beatable opponents in your first four with two and two satisfi people probably of course the eye test matters too if you get blown out by 30 then yeah no right but if you go toe-to-toe with Dallas

Even though you’re undermanned and you lose by two at home on a heartbreaking late second shot but you’re right in there and you work your ass off and it’s a battle back and forth you know I think there’s a little bit more respect to it and higher hopes and maybe higher

Expectations to at least solidify something that you can respect compared to all right this is a fullon collapse you know and if it’s a fullon collapse maybe it’s an easier decision for the Sixers organization just to sit your well and be down and say don’t worry

About it anymore we’re not even going to put you in a position to go out there and play let let’s just think about next year because they hit the Philadelphia Eagles wall that would be bad though if you’re telling me I have a backto back Seasons where I’m watching the Eagles go through

One of the most historic NFL collapses my eyes have ever seen and then I do something similar with the Sixers I guess the difference would be well there’s a cause and an effect here on the Sixers right your best player goes down therefore you stink that wasn’t the

Case with the Eagles you just flat out stunk so it’s not the same but the the the results the same so if the results the same then I’m still just as devastated I guess I’m not devastated when my hello fresh comes in the mail though that’s for damn sure and I’m

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Okay let’s take your phone calls let’s do it how are you feeling out there people Bros I’m having a really hard time being sold in this idea that ID will come back from his surgery and just be ready for the playoffs I I just don’t

Know if I want to see it the man has dealt with so many injuries throughout his career that like I don’t want to risk his greatness ended because he’s being rushed back for a team that currently assembled I just don’t see making a run and I don’t know if I want

Darl Mory to invest in the team they have a lot of needs like especially without embi you need to find a starting center you need need to find a backup point guard you need to find that three-point specialist that you haven’t had since Seth Curry left the team it’s

Just I don’t see this team especially with this injury just being close right now so I just feel like it would be a better move to sit and be for the rest of the year and let him get healthy focus on developing the young guys on

This roster and use your assets and gear up for the 2024 25 season when you hopefully do have a fully healthy MB if you are one of those people who believes on in that this season I would like to be sold on it because I just am having a

Hard time selling myself on something like that curious to hear your thoughts all fair points the only thing I disagree with is you’re saying you don’t want to see him come at I mean I do I do want to see him come back I am rooting

For that I am pulling for that because he will be getting as long as it’s the proper timetable that he needs to be respectful out there I’m not rushing it but there is still time to get to the playoffs then the question comes in though how ready is he and all that

Stuff but I’d still rather go down swinging with Joel embiid compared to not if at least his knee is in a decent enough spot to take the floor again and he’s getting two thumbs up from the medical staff that that makes sense because he got two thumbs up against

Golden State somehow and that made no sense at all so as long as it fits something that I deem is fine then yes then I’m okay with it but there’s nothing wrong with your logic if that was their way to go about this I wouldn’t argue if they said look pause

Pause pause pause we’ve tried to put him out there in years past season after season after season we asked him to play at 70% we’re done with it it’s not the best for him so what we’re going to do is we’re going to reset we’re going to

Really allow for him to get healthy we’re going to give him the playoffs to not go out there we’re going to give him the off season we’re going to give him a lot of time and you know where our contracts stand for for the next year

I’m okay with that I really don’t think that that’s a bad option either based off of our current mold so there’s nothing wrong with that and you know you you say if you feel he can come back please try and sway me I I don’t think I have the support emotionally in inside

Of me to really give you reasons on on why this can work I want to see it because I think Joel and beid is great but I I can’t sell you based off of what we’ve already seen out of him and what we’ve seen out of this

Team for years and years and years and getting stuck in the second round that it’s definitely going to work I can’t do that I’m hoping that it can work I’m praying that it can work I pray to the basketball Gods every single damn day that we can get Joel

Embiid on the floor to give us a good shot at it so I can’t even sell you it though because I I don’t know if I’m fully engaged and fully bought in I’m willing to see it though maybe a little more than you are but your scenario you laid

Out that makes sense too and it’s hard to argue against it and I get feeling down I get feeling broken it’s a tough time right now every season it’s the same damn thing it’s gross well we just got the unfortunate but expected news that Joel embiid has a torn meniscus in

His knee and man it sucks every year with this guy I love him to death I love Joel beid but God can he stay healthy man I mean it kills US every year it’s like he’s a shell of himself come April and May and now you might as

Well sit him out for the rest of the year you might as well let him sit because you know it’s not going to do you any better but this is going to suck because now you’re going to have to worry about seating and where you might end up

With number one option it sucks man they took the Flyers and the Sixers away from us in like two weeks they’re both rolling and now back to normal I guess the law of averages anyways brother peace out I’m ready for Philly season thanks Zach we did did get some

Phillies rumors from Bob Nightingale if that tickles anybody’s fancy the seating thing doesn’t really bother me because it’s irrelevant unless joelan beat his back right I I mean if he plays through this which he’s not obviously we understand he’s getting surgery but if he was to play through this to focus on

The seating and then you have a broken down Joel andb that could barely stand by the end but hey you’re a third seed instead of a six seed how good is that it’s basically irrelevant at that time so I’d rather be a seven seed without Joel and then obviously it’ll be a tough

Matchup and a really pretty brutal ending potentially where you’re getting knocked out in the first round because you’re seeing a team that you normally see in the second round in fail you’re seeing them early but then Joelle is at least 80% instead of a 50% in the

Scenario where he plays for a better seating so you know the seating is irrelevant right now it’s it’s backto back calls though that just want to shut him down and say dude wrap it up wrap it up Don stop it no no no and it’s hard to

Argue against it but deep down the Sixers fan in me once to to see what could happen as long as it’s in a respectful time and a respectful situation of his knee I’m not forcing it I want to make sure that that’s know I’m not forcing it if it’s a Well 5050 toss

Up we’ll flip a CO he he he he could potentially got nope nope if it’s a potential if there’s any question marks nope shut him down it’s if there’s no questions yeah hey the KN at x% and that’s as best as you’re going to get because how many times we’re

Going to have to go into that knee a billion well it’s not going to ever be 100% we’re at the Max Capacity you either take the floor or you don’t then you’re taking the damn floor that’s how I kind kind of approach it man is Hunter ever going to find

Happiness with Philadelphia sports in like the past half year no it feels like just in this consistent stretch of time you have not been able to be consistently happy with our sports teams it’s just one hit after another basically since the Sixers choked to the Boston Celtics in that second round

After game six following that you know you got Phillies choke you got Eagles collapse Flyers hopefully they bounce back from the five game losing streak but you know the cart situation now this Joel and be situation they’ll bch back I don’t know what to say anymore it’s the

Same old Sam old with his six years team another major Joel and beat injury ruins what could be you know a fun season after you know he’s been playing his best basketball I’m it’s probably not going to be season ending he’ll probably be back before the playoffs but really if

You just think about it like are they really going to do anything in the playoffs like bottom line here they’re not going to do anything that’s just what I think and I hate thinking like that it it’s just I’ve been so soured on this franchise for a long time and this

Is just you know rock bottom right now same old same old Sixers I guess at the end of the day where I’ll disagree is the way you said it is will they do anything in the playoffs anyway I don’t know I don’t know as painful as it has been these second round

Losses game sevens quadruple DS you had game six at home to close out the Boston Celtics and the Anthony Melton can’t make wide open threes wide open looks at the back shirts we yell at Doc we yell at in be not demanding the ball from James Harden when the ball got sticky in

His hands and all that stuff they had a chance to win game six and they missed wide open looks MBA players missing wide open looks that’s a problem and then game seven they just no showed so you know that’s a problem too but my point is you’re you’re not far off from

Advancing and if you keep getting cracks at it cracks at it cracks at it cracks at it I do feel eventually you will Peak through we’ve seen it in other sports we watch the the uh Alexander avkin LED capitals lose to Sydney Crosby and the Penguins over and over again until

Eventually they powered through that series and then they become Stanley Cup champions it’s not impossible so I don’t head into every year here thinking well it’s definitely going to be the same old same old I’m expecting that eventually things do change if you’re constantly in that position you’re doing something

Right to be in game sevens versus teams that are going to NBA Finals that are going to the Eastern Conference Final you’re right there you’re not far off you’re not that first round team that loses in five in the first round that are just happy to be there they’re

Woohoo we’re happy to be there that’s not the case so I don’t know I don’t know no so I I I don’t I don’t like the are they going to do anything anyway they could they could I can’t rule it out I can’t I don’t know if he’s going to make

It to the end of the regular season though I don’t think he G make it to the end of the regular season my gut tells me he can return but he returns and they’re already in the playoffs so there’s no ramp up period if he does get a chance to do it

What a world we live in fellas what a world all right everybody I appreciate your time thank you all so much for hanging out with me today we’ll be talking again soon I will see you all on the next one

The Philadelphia Sixers MVP Joel Embiid will undergo surgery on his left meniscus. #Sixers #76ers #NBA

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