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What Is Holding Back The Chicago Bulls Offense



What Is Holding Back The Chicago Bulls Offense

You have found yourself on another episode of Locked on bulls in today’s episode me and Pat are going to discuss what exactly is going on with the Chicago Bulls offense what’s keeping it stagnant we’re also going to talk about Danilo galinari spurning the Bulls for the second time in two years and the

76ers were close to Andre Drummond trade we’re going to talk about all that and more on today’s locked on bulls you are locked on bulls your daily podcast on the Chicago Bulls part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day Thank you for tuning in locked on bulls member of the locked on podcast Network where it’s your team every single day that’s Pat the designer host and creator of the windy city Breeze and host of the Chicago Bears podcast over at ESP 1000 I’m Hayes host creator of Chicago Bulls

And Chicago Bears Central YouTube pages and podcast and uh yeah no SP title sponsor today so we jumping right into it hey um so Pat one thing with the Chicago Bulls defense even when it was struggling right during the beginning of the season the 4 and 15 the defense was

Decent right now since the beginning of December the Chicago Bulls have a top 10 defense in the NBA but one thing that’s stayed relatively low over the the first 19 games of the season when we went four and 15 the Chicago Bulls defense was ranked 26 right now we’re ranked 21st so

We’re still a bit of a struggle right now uh let’s just go over some some B basketball nerd stats for you before we get into the conversation the Bulls right now even coming into the season saying that they wanted to play with a faster pace and shoot more threes we are

Currently 30th in paced we’re first in mid-range shots and 22nd in three-pointers three-point attempts per game uh so far in the season Pat when you look at the Chicago Bulls offense what do you think is is holding the offense back to most lepr can’t change

Of spots is the team that you built it’s the team you have you swapped out Zack LaVine for Kobe white fun they put up the same amount of points nothing’s different this is the team that it has been I mean what do we what they’re not a team that’s going to

Take a ton of Threes uh yeah I guess they’re taking more in theory right like 22nd uh in attempts per game cool um but it’s still in the 20s right you’re you’re not a team that has a mindset to shoot the three ball your star players on this team operate in the mid-range

This is who the team is and you know like I think the the bigger sin is on the front office and on us even telling them to not be them you’ve got two players that have been be been getting told stop shooting mid-range shots their entire NBA career and they haven’t done

It two who’s the second you talking about Zack L remember Jim Bo was here and he was like just stop shooting mid-range shots he was like no like that’s where I’m good at I mean like so you got the thing is even with the Zach thing I think yeah Kobe

White’s Ascension has basically kept the Bulls basically where they were now coming into the season we thought we were adding three-point shooting with Javon Carter didn’t get none of that uh Tory Craig who does bring a little bit of three-point shooting had missed 22 games and Zack LaVine Who coming into

The season you would have expected to be taking at least a nice chunk of the threes is also out so I think those three players missing time or just not being good in the case of Javon Carter definitely plays a paron the Bulls uh attempts being as low as what that

Shot yeah hasn’t been good but I think the thing that comes in and adds a little bit more color into it that you can still be an efficient team when not shooting a lot of Threes right we’ve seen that with teams that we’ve played recently like the Cleveland Cavaliers

Are towards the bottom of the league at three-points attempted but they’re efficient in three-pointers that they make so it makes it it it makes it hit a little different but also the Bulls right now we don’t get a a lot of free throws we’re 23rd in the league in free

Throw attempts as well so when you when you’re not taking three-pointers when you’re shooting mid-range shots but not getting a whole heck of a lot of foul calls besides Demar to rozen and even that’s down a little bit for Demar it it creates an inefficient offense I think

The biggest thing holding the team back is I’m not going to say it’s just a three-point shooting but it’s just not being efficient in what you’re trying to do yes but at the same time right like I don’t even know not to say efficiency doesn’t matter but I don’t

Even know if they would be efficient just because we don’t see them try it like how many we saw a couple of games early on where they kind of were going out there and shooting more threes and right like we had a what if we had like three

Games and they all were early in the season where they shot like 40 plus threes and we like what the heck is this this is a new shooting oh my goodness this is fun and then we didn’t see it I think they had one game where they shot like 18 for

41 and then we never saw it again they went back to what made them comfortable you just you have players on this team that when the when the three-point shot is not what you want to go with you go with your comfort yes we can try to

Change Alice Caruso to me is shooting well I mean Caruso Kobe and IO of all dress I mean as a team we’re still taking five more three-pointers than what we did basically last season so that’s why I say like I look at it and say Zack LaVine even if he was like

Healthy and was here no matter how he’s playing that’s at least two to three more three-point attempts per game just that alone would take you from being 22nd to almost being 10th in the league like that’s how that’s the difference in just a few more threes make a game yeah

It it’s just it’s one of those things though when you go into a when you go into a battle versus a team that you know is is good at it and is more willing to do it you’re you’re already behind the eightball again losing at math right like you’re you’re in a

Position where right okay we’re playing a team that has good three-point Shooters on it that means we have to play better defensively in this game and close out on the three-point line we didn’t do that very well uh um against um not Cleveland who we played before

That can’t think of the team now that’s two games before that Atlanta right we didn’t do that as well versus Atlanta and they were able to knock down those Corner threes and stuff like you you you have to be able to there has to be a consistency in in at least picking one

Side or the other and the Bulls have just chosen the middle yes they’re a good defense they’re not a great defense they’re a top 10 defense but they’re not a great defense you don’t play the Bulls and go we’re scoring 105 points today so because of that I can get my

115 because they are going to struggle to get 114 like that’s that’s to me where the the offense that this Bulls team has is just it’s predictable demard de Rosen is going to get to his spots he going to work out his spots he’s going to be in

The mid-range nikol lavich he’s going to be down low he’s going to be at the three-point line Kobe White’s the most unpredictable player on the team and he just figured it out Zack LaVine was predictable and I think he’s very good at getting to all of his spots but he’s

Very predictable you know right like he’s gonna do that nice right to left try to get to a spot pump fake pump fake fade away like you when when you have an offense that doesn’t catch people off guard good defense is going to beat that

Well I mean I get what you’re saying I mean the Bulls Point differential is only like teams are only scoring out scoring the Chicago Bulls by like one and a half point so that’s why I say like it a little extra three-point shooting does drastically change what’s going effective three-point shooting

Does drastically change what this team’s offense defense the balance of that but I think even to that right like you think about a team like the Phoenix Suns right over the last I don’t know 15 or so games they’re not a great defensive team they’re their defensive rating over

The last 15 or so games like 112 113 something like that it’s been better but you don’t look at the Phoenix Suns and go these guys are clamps the flip side of that is though their offensive rating over that time is 121 so I can play defense well enough if

I know I’ve got these guys that can go out there and knock down shots and like you said it does play efficiency is an important part of it but it also just kind of to me works out to that number right like you you got to take some of

These threes to make them now theyve got the best the best shot makers in the NBA on their team and Devin Booker Kevin Durant it makes a difference I understand that but even like when Zack LaVine was out there I feel like we didn’t see a difference in this team and

Maybe he was hobbled maybe it was a different Z I use Zack towards to what he’s been for his career this season Zach you couldn’t bet on anything but but even to that right what he’s been on in his career the last four years of his

Career or three years of his career when we’ve been going through this when he’s been on the floor the team has been very much the same like we we haven’t talked about a great uptick in production when Zack lavine’s Hit the Floor maybe we can score more but not a defensive rating

Went the other direction well I mean granted though we’ve had a top five to top 10 defense even with Zack LaVine on the floor so the defense isn’t the problem we know what this team could be defensively it’s the fact that when you’re talking about the offense and

What’s Elling the offense it is having that extra shooter out there because even Zack LaVine in a Down Season I think everybody would agree this is a d season for the Chicago Bulls Zine was still making two and a half three-pointers per game like I that two and a half three-pointers per game

Literally put changes your point differential from being you your negative one and a half to at that point you’re almost positive one and a half but you also got to take into account is it giving up two and a half three-pointers per game on the other end

Listen I mean like that’s but that’s that’s the difference right with ium or Alice kuso out there you may be giving up less but you’re making Zack LaVine out there you’re you’re getting more but you’re giving up more that’s why I said like swapping out Kobe for Zack swapping

Out you know whatever whoever you want to swap in you don’t have enough players that are different you don’t have enough players that if you swap them in they make a difference that putting in Zack LaVine for Alex Caruso cool we’re gonna score more points we’re not going to

Stop more people though well it depends on how you how you maintain the minutes because it’s not like you’re swapping and you’re not playing Alice I get you get his minutes so it’s about balancing out and that’s not something Billy Donovan has always done well either so

But I think the problem is no matter what equation we swap in swap out like the balance is always going to end up with a one to two point differential yeah with this makeup with this roster I mean with the make up of this roster so like oh if if I were to

Say what’s holding the Bulls offense back the Bulls like the the players that you have on your team you have players that operate in predictable spots and they have games where they cook and they have games where they don’t you have a young player that is probably the most

Unpredictable player on the team and it seems like the rest of the team outside of IOD dumu hasn’t really picked up on that I assuma waking up is a big surprise butel I mean listen biggest surprise is that Javon Carter sucks uh with that said we’re gonna talk about danilla

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Season in that time um but with that said the 76ers has come out and said that the six Sixers felt that a deal was all but done for Andre Drummond they were going to be sending the three second round picks to the Chicago Bulls for Andre Drummond and the Bulls are

Actually the ones that pulled out of that deal and the final couple of hours of the trade deadline Pat do you think that that was the right move H it’s it’s tough right like I I don’t know that’s that’s a that’s an interesting one because one

You flipped the topics on me and it threw me all I did flip the topics on you yeah my brain went topic number three I have no idea it is what it is supposed to be doing talking about now here we go no um are we are we what’s the value on

Second round picks value on this team if you’re gonna stay competitive competive true true true and I mean do you think that do you take that as saying that maybe the Bulls were had an internal discussion or battle on if staying competitive was actually the right play because if

You’re if you’re in the final hours of a deal getting closed you pull out at at the last minute um I mean let’s be real he don’t we all pull out at the last minute I mean that’s the whole that’s listen I wasn’t good at that I got four children I was

Never good at that okay you were just getting the deal done dog you were three second round picks fou here we go um I don’t know I’m not I’m not upset by the fact that the Bulls didn’t trade drum away I did think that he would have been

Gone but I’m I’m not I don’t think that it changes either team one way or the other it might make Philadelphia a little bit better I do think that um but do we think that it’s like the move that puts Philly over the top maybe if you

Feel like when Joel andb comes back you get I don’t care what that means for Philly why we talking about what it means for Philly I don’t care I’m just saying like I don’t think it changes anything for the Bulls it’s three second round picks they’re going to be late second

Round picks yeah like what are we what are we stocking up second round picks for here like I get it right like it’s cool when you’re on day two of the draft and you can use them more and yes there’s more Talent yes there’s more opportunity for you to find gems in the

Draft but like I don’t care about second round picks right now if if you know you want to know how you go get three second round picks you you pay money you can buy second round picks the Bulls have sold them the for years the Bulls are

The number one supplier of second round picks in the NBA I mean like I got I got two picks for you all I need is a Nick 500 500 500 second round pick your way baby there you go like that’s that’s that’s all it ends up being to me I’m

Not one way or the other moved by DeAndre Drummond trade not getting done yeah I mean listen I don’t think that is at the end of the day I know there’re going to be some people that say the Bulls missed out on opportunity to add more assets I get that it’s true fun

Functionally that’s true he could Drummond walk in free agency yes could the bulls not be able to afford him even if he wants to stay yeah depending on if they resign Pat and Demar Rosen and don’t do anything with Zach Alonzo Ball’s contract that’s abs absolutely

Reality in this but I I don’t know if I’m looking back at it like we look back at that rumored uh uh trade that the Knicks offered for Zack LaVine and say Hey you missed out on that one I don’t know if a year from now we’re like hey

Man we should have took those those seconds we should have took those three seconds yeah I just I’m not worried about it because listen if we lose drum at the end of the year for nothing okay I I I’ve told guys that I feel like his

Replacement is here and what do you the second round picks that you’re going to draft you hope that they look like Adama Sono looks in the gague right now so you got that guy you know you hope he looks like Julian Phillips has looked as a

Young player in the NBA right now while getting no shots just knowing where to be you got that guy the the Bulls are at a point right now where it’s not more it’s not about adding young assets it’s about developing young assets the whole team is Young assets

Iio still a young asset Kobe still a young asset Pat will still a young asset uh dalen Terry still a young asset Julian Phillips still a young asset I like if we were talking about like a late first all right you guys are idiots for not pulling the the the

Um taking that taking that trade because pulling the trigger on that one is what I was trying to say because late first round picks have proven to be solid NBA players not to say second round picks haven’t but you can go buy those from anybody that just

Needs to get some money off the books yeah I mean are a team like the like the Oklahoma City Thunder that have more picks coming in than open roster spots for like the next five years they literally can use yeah so that’s going

To be where but I mean at the end of the day like I like drum on this team uh I know that this team is trying to make the run towards the end of the year it is what it is there it’s not a draft that’s worked tanking in I’m not gonna

Be mad at at uh Andre Drummond still being on team especially with Nicola vich playing like completing utter cheeks the all cheek team uh is is Nicola vich and and Javon Carter leading that it’s so weird too right because I don’t know maybe I’m the weird one I

Always hear right you are the weird one well it happens uh I’m getting money though but uh I mean like it’s always weird to me because people will always say the worst place for you to be in the NBA is at the in the middle right Bulls

Are ninth right now they’re in the middle their team is literally a middling team when it comes to defensive offensive rating things like that um the record is pretty much a middle of the- pack record if you look like there there’re as mid as mid can yet but I

Would still rather be here than where the Pistons are well that’s clear like right I mean like because we we’ve been on the flip side of this and that’s kind of what trading away not to say trading away drumming but how a lot of people want to

Build this right you get rid of pieces for assets the assets gotta be good yeah the assets have to hit say is that he’s looking at Daryl Mory and he’s looking at Philly and he’s saying we don’t want your sloppy seconds for Andre Drummond right and L Hey listen if I’m

Looking at Daryl Moore I’d be like hey you got uh you got James Harden for Andre Drummond last time I checked we’re gonna need something back here a little bit more now there was a lot of other players in that deal but Andre Drummond was the uh focal point of

That deal right who else winning was he probably honestly playerwise not Ben Simmons yeah I was about to say come on yeah but they want to get rid of Ben they hated Ben I mean Ben Ben Ben hated himself at that point in time so that’s a littleit different Ben Ben it’s

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Audible it is what it is Big audible man I I just it threw me off a little bit you I I was like it threw myself off bro he didn’t ask me about danillo right there he was asking about the the 76ers and it and then it took me a minute to

Be like do I just go back to the topic or do I answer question what do I do here it is what it is that’s how good me and Pat are we can just we can we can call audibles off the off the fly it is what it is

Um denil gari chooses to sign with the Milwaukee Bucks uh you know Bulls did reportedly plan or meet or did speak to his representation at least he decides to go after team citing that basically he has a chance for to compete for a title that’s really what it came down to

Both times that denil galinari has turned down the Chicago Bulls in last free agency before he eventually signed Goran dragic and now at the trade deadline he signed with the Boston Celtics who were a championship Contender and now the Milwaukee Bucks so the Bulls are the Bulls are getting second place

Even in the uh even in the buyout Market Gallo was a player to me that I I guess if we’re breaking it down right he would have been a nice addition I don’t know if Billy have played him right like I I feel like he would have been something interesting to

Add but I don’t know how much tick he would have gotten here I feel the same way about Joe Harris I’ve said this the entire time I don’t believe the Bulls are in the buyout Market this year I think the Bulls are going to the playin tournament with the players we have I

Think that we’re rolling with Kobe white we want to see what Kobe white can do what I can become uh we’ve got Alex Caruso here Demar de rozan is DeMar de rozan I think by the end of this season we’re heading towards a well we didn’t get a contract

Done and I think the Bulls were in a position now where they want to finish out this season competitive because they know they’re just going to let people walk at the end of the year they’re about I I I feel I’m starting to feel like we’re just about

To lose a lot of pieces for nothing yep which is there the the something is your clearing the money off the books yeah that’s what the Bulls are getting they’re getting the money off the books what are they going to do with that money though Pat mean you gotta

Sign somebody there’s a legal floor in the NBA you got thing I’m worried about is that literally the Bulls are probably at the floor just by resigning Patrick Williams yeah probably no I mean we know they’re going to do more than that they probably try I

I’m I’m be real with you I think they’re finally going to just let the young Bulls run they’re GNA they’re going to let I dumu go They’re gonna let they gotta keep Zack LaVine at this point it is what it is right like he’s probably going to be here next year as well

You’re gonna have Kobe white who’s developed into a nice piece and you’re GNA just let the young Bulls run with Nick lavich Alex Caruso and that would that would that would be I hear what you’re saying with that I just don’t know if I trust act me to do that like

That makes sense it seems like this is the way that it’s plotted but then we get to the offseason and all you know the next thing you know the Chicago Bulls are doing signing trades giving up first round picks we sitting here like what what is this I don’t I don’t I

Don’t see it and and I think here’s the thing too right like there were a lot of players that were up for trade if you did do something like that I guess there were a lot of players that were up for trade that I thought was interesting because they didn’t end up

Getting moved so what does that mean for the future Brandon was a player that was up for trade and they were literally just like we we not going to move on because we’re competitive right now we’re moving up in the Western Conference but next year who knows maybe that’s somebody who’s going

To be on the trade block maybe that’s somebody you want to save your assets for the the Bulls are in the middle right now and and they’re not moving anytime soon and at least the young bulls running will be different we hope they are who we thought they were

I’m telling you we when we’re playing next season and demart Rosen leading the fast break of him and Kyle L and it’s like man what are we doing on his new on his new uh twoyear $45 million deal listen it’s time to go bro now you see

Now you’re causing trauma it’s time to go it’s over I on everything at lock on board you can follow me on everything at path the designer argue with your mama you can follow me at CEO hay want to thank you guys for tuning in another episode of Locked on bulls we are free

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8 Comments

  1. I think whats holding them back is that actually trying on defense. That gets you real tired for the other end of the court!…

    That and lacking a consistent shooter, and Vucs hit or miss play lately.

  2. Let’s get Joe Harris. And tell Demar he’s not allowed to take 2’s any more. 3s only from all the Bulls! Who wants to see it ?

  3. The #1 thing is our pace. We can get shooters, but we have some cats that can run teams off the floor. That was the DNA over this version of the Bulls AKME built. Active hands, low volume but high percentage 3s, transition. We are not running enough (big part of that is Demar and Vooch TBH), our 3s aren't raining like other teams, and we trade Demar isos for other teams going dumb and splashing 3s. He gotta make 3 buckets to get what they get for 2.

  4. I think Billy gets promoted to the front office and Fleming gets made the HC. Zach gets moved to the 3 while Ayo and Coby are starting 1&2. Sign and Trade Demar for a backup PG & SF. Resign Pat. Draft a Center. Use Midlevel to sign another vet big.

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