Celtics New Documentary and Potential for Jaylen Brown Trade This Offseason | How ‘Bout Them Celtics
These guys are ridiculous these guys are Ridiculous now how about them damn Celtics and we are back with another episode of how about them Celtics seminar here recording Saturday February 17th with a surprisingly Full Slate of Celtics stuff to talk about Celtics haven’t played in a few days it’s the allstar prank the slam dunk contest is
Tonight I don’t know if we’ll have time to watch it for this podcast I might be busy I know Sam’s not home so you might get the jayen brown dunk contest update on the next pod but that’s okay uh Sam how you doing you’re not home right now
Where where you at I’m in Montreal I’m still sick I’m here it’s [ __ ] cold I’ll tell you that it is I came in the room and Jack was not in the tab and I said Jack it’s [ __ ] cold let me tell you he’s like yeah it is cold I’m like
You don’t know about the cold buddy out there wearing gloves my feet are cold terrible feris wheel I I’m not a fan of Ferris wheels I don’t I don’t I don’t [ __ ] with the heights I don’t like the ferris wheel for like the first like quarter of going
Up and then I’m okay why just because it feels weird no it’s just like oh I’m afraid and then I’m like no I’m not okay it’s it’s like it’s not like going on the thing at Six Flags where you go all the way up and then go all the way down
Wouldn’t no I’ve been on one roller coaster in my life I think I’ve told the story uh should I let’s see do you know have you ever been to Story Land I’ve never been to Storyland but I’m aware of Storyland so this is the uh called The Polar coaster at
Storyland this right here uhhuh I wrote it when I was eight you go threw up immediately after haven’t been on a roller coaster since not good work don’t want to it’s it’s set the standard for me no thanks I’m all set anyways uh Celtic stuff is why you guys tune into
The Pod so let’s give you what you asked for uh first piece of Celtics news is there’re doing a documentary that Wick rosc said this on Wei shout out Justin Turpin he was tweeting it out he’s a beast he covers all the Celtics games he’s up there on the ninth floor with me
And he made his debut on the pregame show one night when Sam was out um but Wick said quote nothing to officially report yet which it’s kind of what you’re doing but nothing to officially report yet but we are in production on a multi-part absolutely top quality fantastic documentary series on along
The lines of hopefully the last stce and so on we are deep into that we signed contracts film is being filmed and archives are being gone through and it’s in the process they’re following the team this whole year so it’s like behind the scenes so we’ll see what happens win
Or lose it’ll be up and I saw you get very mad at this on Twitter the clarification is from Chad Finn of the Boston Globe tweeted again or it’s not like the last dance it’s a history of the Celtics kozz was the first person interviewed Bob Koozie again it’s not
Like the last dance it’s a history of the Celtics so I think that should probably ease your attentions a little bit but the fact that they are filming the team this year I know you’re probably not a fan of yeah I don’t love it don’t love that uh the the fact that
It’s just a history of the team is a little bit better but I I don’t love the hey look we have a nasty team let’s put cameras in front of everything even though of all the teams to put cameras in front of this is probably the best
Group just because it seems like they truly do get along all the time I mean OA is pretty much putting cameras all around all the time anyway but it’s true I don’t I don’t really like that Wick was like yeah it’s gonna be our version of Last Dance because everyone’s like
Well now like it’s just more bulletin board material not even for other teams but like people online to poke fun at the Celtics if they lose and I mean listen I don’t need any more stress come springtime will it be cool to watch a history of the team absolutely I think
It will uh I think there have been a couple that have been done the the Celtics Lakers one was pretty good that they did on ESPN I was gonna say this seems right up your alley like this seems like something you’d enjoy no I like these things it’s just I don’t
Know it’s I I don’t need to hear about this I don’t maybe win a championship first this is similar to me to when they put the [ __ ] uh when they did the hype video last year and they had them all with the Larry O’Brien trophies that
They didn’t win yeah like it’s the same thing it’s like all right like how badly can you push on these guys that they’re winners before they actually win anything like they’ve been to the finals it’s great they’ve had sustained success but they haven’t gotten the job done yet
Maybe get the job done first before we have a circle jerk here I I’m all for the history of the franchise great history there’s a lot of things that should be told about you know strides the Celtics helped the league make whether it was uh the integration of
Having the first all black starting five first blackhe head coach drafting the first black player uh or having the you know Larry magic rivalry pretty much saved the NBA there’s so many great storylines that have been pushed along or or aided because of the Celtics that should be
Celebrated and I do think the current group is part of the story just I don’t know you didn’t need to tell all of us that you didn’t if they win you could have been like hey we went all in we filmed them the entire year and like you’re going to get this
Documentary and everyone would be like that sick W put his balls on the [ __ ] table but they wouldn’t SC it’s not like they would have scrapped it if they lost like you still would have gotten it if they lost yeah you would have gotten well you could have like prolonged it
You could have been like okay we’re gonna we’re gonna push it back we’re gonna go again I don’t no you couldn’t have no you couldn’t have I think you could no well because then there’s no guarantee they win the next year either CU other than what you going to push back four
Years five like that’s just at that point like you gotta go like you said he’s put his balls on the table he’s got to do it if you’re GNA do it you got to commit it’s to double down then then then you kind of like okay we’re gonna
Try again this year and then we will release it if we lose twice but there is a chance for a save I guess the chance for a save I don’t know I I don’t mind it I I think there is something I agree with you more shocker I think you’re
Pissed when you see most things I would say there’s like a 7 5% what is the the the line of Sam sees this news is angry about it of just in general stuff I feel like it’s high It’s gotta be like 80 I don’t think it’s that
High it’s just like it depends on what it is if it’s like this team having a duckboat parade before they win anything it’s gonna be pretty high I don’t know if that’s what this is though like not that but it kind of is it’s the history of te I I agree with
You that I dislike the way they phrased it like the last dance thing I just think a bad look because I mean that’s literally called The Last Dance because it’s the last year of the team together like you shouldn’t be pushing that on the team that’s currently playing so I
Dislike that part of it but the concept of a history of the Celtics including this current Group which for what it’s worth has been phenomenal this year there’s no guarantee for anything obviously it’s it’s tough to win a title obviously but it this is part of it and
So I think that sort of thing was good I just think I just think the way it was phrased is poor I I don’t like that they compared it like that you’re rights you’re right the the phrasing is weird and I think it just sends the wrong message I don’t know the
Fact that Chad fin had to be like hey everybody calm down yeah like like I it’s the phrasing I think that’s the phrasing more than the actual Act of the documentary itself though like if you just told me they’re putting together a history of the Celtics documentary and they’re having
Some of the current players be a part of it I and that that’s great you can see all of the different things the Celtics have accomplished throughout the franchises history you can have the newer players coming in talking about how those things or or what they knew
About the Celtics has affected the way that they take pride in the uniform they put on like there are different ways you could have spun this you didn’t have to come out and be like we’re nasty circle jerk incoming and it’s also going to be about everybody else too that said if
They do win yeah it’s in a rule they win it’s cool see I think could have you could have pushed it from my angle what I just presented and then you could have been actually yeah sure okay I’ll back that yeah you know like you didn’t have
To like go all in right now yeah I I will say I do think I do think this is the right group for him to balls on the table with because they do seem very like nah don’t care don’t care we’re they do keep Str and they’ve been better
Than any even though the teams we’ve watched the last couple years have been good they’ve been better than any of those teams so far and I I I want it to be clear I’m not hating on the idea I’m just hating on the I think you have it
Right the messaging or or the delivery is not good 100% I agree with you I agree with you uh speaking of the current players Jaylen Brown obviously he’s the dunk contest tonight as we’re recording this again I don’t know if we’re going to be
Here um after as well if we are I’ll cut it in here and then we’ll we’ll talk about it but I think we’re going to be busy so you’ll get the dunk contest recap on the next pod that said uh he was on TNT or whatever NBA broadcast is
Covering it uh said feel like I’m my in my athletic Prime at one point in my career I thought I wanted to do it and I think now is a good time I know you also mentioned that he said he feels like he’s the best what uh in-game dunker of
All time like dunking on people best posterizer ever yes uh and the odds right now I think he’s plus 500 to win right and Mac ma mclung is minus 270 um I’m going to go bet on Jaylen brown right now um do you want me to bet on it
For you as well I know you’re uh away at the moment it’s up to you I’ve got $42 in my account I’m gonna put 20 on it would you like me to put any money on Jaylen Brown for you I’ll match I’ll match I’ll okay 2020
I got you I got you just hit me with a VMO if they lose and if not I’ll send you some cash and we’ll have a good time um what what do you since we can’t talk about the actual thing right now because I don’t know it hasn’t happened I don’t
Know if we’ll be able to what do you make of his com that he’s the best ingame dunker ever that I mean obviously that might be a bit of an exaggeration just in general but pretty damn good ingame dunker pretty good at dunking on people well leading up to this Dunk
Contest Bleacher Report put out a compilation of like all of his best dunks and all of it is posters and and we’ve talked a lot about this leading up to the dunk contest where it’s been yeah jaylen’s good at dunking but is he creative enough to impress judges what
He really is best at is dunking on people and the entire Bleacher Report mixtape was literally him just committing murder after murder the Maxi kleber poster at kg day was crazy he’s dunked on Yannis three or four times he dunked on LeBron he had the crazy uh I
Don’t know if it was a poster poster but in Miami for game five in 2022 when they were blowing out Miami he had uh just sucked the air out of the building dunk on a drive past bam and that was a great just silencer play he he has like an
Interest he has an incredible collection of posters fanduel’s not letting me bet on the dunk contest wter am I stupid it’s rless me Jam’s not tweeted out dude look at this you can bet on you can I don’t I can check but I don’t use it as much but
Look you can bet on all of these different first round Score first round score highest round one score I can’t bet on the winner you can bet on the Three-Point Contest winner but I I can’t bet on the winner what the hell is happening this is a disaster
Right I’m not crazy though right like it’s letting you bet on everything else anyways if I see it I’ll bet 20 for each of us and and will match but at the moment it is yes and I go bet now and it takes me to here and then wait what’s the thing
The top Three-Point Contest lame whatever FanDuel is not letting me have any fun maybe it’s testing my limits um anyways yeah I think Jaylen Brown has a good in-game resume um for Duncan on people we talked about it some I can’t keep track of when we
Talk about what anymore because we do so many shows we talked about his like dunks over Giannis Rudy goar like he’s got some big ones so I think it’s a valid um a valid take or a valid uh Proclamation from JP I’ll back it he’s pretty damn
Good yeah uh speaking of pretty damn good Jason Tatum uh is pretty damn good uh Oliver Fox wrote an article about him first altic vog this morning go check it out it’s called I want to get it correct uh just so I put it out there the quiet overwhelming greatness of Jason Tatum
The quiet overwhelming greatness of Jason Tatum very good but something else I saw on Twitter ironically from perk which whatever H is just hot or cold man this and you’re about to say it but he either is like whoever the Celtics have at this thing is the worst or this guy
Is the greatest ever I think he’s no between he’s lame as hell but perk said if the Celtics finish with the first seed Tatum’s getting my vote first of all if they don’t yeah learn how to get learn Chinese if they don’t um they’d
Have to finish 16 and 11 to get to 60 wins or 17 something like that to not get to 60 wins so I’m going to knock on wood place my bets healthily that they’ll probably be pretty good regardless me corales put out the tweet and it was like the Celtics have a six
Game lead over the Cleveland Cavaliers who have won I don’t know how many games the Celtics are projected to win 64 games that is the pace and if Cleveland was to win 65 games they would have to go 29 and0 to finish the season Yeah so basically they
They’re going to win they’re going to win the East they’re going to win the one seed barring an absolute collapse yes yes um but that got me thinking or that got perk thinking should Jason Tatum wi MVP or should he be at least more in the conversation because for
Perk I know right I know you hate the whole in the conversation stuff I know like you’re ad like is it but like it is a thing right you have to be in the conversation to be able to win the award because there’s no clear-cut winner this
Year I would argue I don’t think there is an obvious MVP well that’s the thing like you’re either in the conversation or you’re not you’re not an MVP candidate in the conversation or not at all exactly I think that’s the point I think Tatum should be an MVP candidate
And I think it’s obvious because you look at it and I I I think the general consensus or the thought process behind Tatum this year is oh his stats are a little down because the Celtics are have more Ms to feed he’s putting up 27 eight and a half and five assists effectively
On his best field goal percentage of his career and shooting the best three-point percentage he shot since the 2020 2021 season at 36 on high volume which is still down for the last two years the NFL season is wrapping up and there’s still time to get in on the action with
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Good in big spots starting the All-Star Game it feels like this is the first year in a while that the best player on the one seed in the East has like hasn’t been talked about as a potential MVP cand like he really hasn’t been like
Even brought up as an option for a lot of these people yeah yic Shay and beid when he was there maybe yanis maybe Luca and then it’s like like he’s I put it on the sheet here because I think the point of he has a good team around him obviously that’s
Going to be a factor right because he just doesn’t have the stats to be in the same realm as those guys because they don’t have as many mouths to feed but there’s a point where best team best player maybe a little bit worse stats is like one thing
Versus not just best team best player but like Far and Away not even [ __ ] close best team best player being dominant like I feel like that’s gota have you know what I’m saying like they are they are not just the best team it’s not like they’re two games ahead one
Game ahead they’re four and a half games up on the next best team in the league and six games up in their conference in a year where everyone came in saying who knows who’s gonna win this year like yeah the Celtics got the best roster but
It’s going to be tough for them to win a million games because the whole league is talented like [ __ ] they’re 43 and 12 heading into the break the six-game lead in the Eastern Conference and Tatum’s not even being mentioned I think he’s got a damn good you know bid
To win it and and to be perfectly clear it doesn’t [ __ ] matter if he wins the MVP I don’t like I don’t think he cares about the award I think they want to win a title but the fact that he’s not even being mentioned is a little egregious
Because I don’t know I I just think it’s a conversation it’s just weird because if you look at who else it could be okay we’ll just kind of go down on the list of guys we’ve heard this season embiid it won’t be embiid he’s injured will not
Not play enough games yes joic is another guy Fair what’s the argument against him voter fatigue uh yeah I I guess just voter fatigue I mean his stats are insane he’s putting up 26 12 and N um on great splits and they’re 36 and 19 so yeah
He’s got a fair case then you have Shay and and to me Shay is the winner right now if I had pick it’s Shay I his stats have been unbelievable I think the jump that Oklahoma City has taken is one substantial to a large part because of him and the amount of responsibility
He’s been able to take on as the number one on that team and to be a leader for a lot of these younger players that have stepped up for OKC and filled BigTime roles for them it’s just pretty incredible and he’s also been very clutched this year he’s he’s been
Somebody you can trust down the stretch of a game Tatum has he really Minnesota was a really sick one off the top of my head there haven’t been a million Tatum games where he took over down the stretch the Pistons win at home as funny as it’s to reference the Pistons game
Was very impressive to me the Celtics were down 21 Tatum took the Reign took charge started going to the basket LED them back from the dead so that’s another example of him really being able to step up in the big moment but like aside from that like there are so many
Different times this year where I feel like Tatum has let me down in those moments and I don’t shouldn’t be considered for the award I guess like maybe he should be in the top two or three but I don’t know if this is the year I feel like Tatum was pretty awful
For a month month and a half here maybe two months if you really want to stretch it out where I was consistently complaining about him and I’m very strict I’m very I’m a tough critic like I get it really so not an MVP voter so it doesn’t really matter but he just I
Don’t know I felt like he wasn’t very good for a while you got to put it together for a whole season if you want to win the MVP do you listen I I I understand what you’re saying but the reason you’re being so critical and acting this way is because you’ve
Watched every single Celtics game you haven’t watched every single with all due respect I haven’t either that’s not what I’m saying me games where y just scored in single digits to your point you haven’t watched nuggets games like nuggets fans have you haven’t watched like thunder games like Thunder fans
Have like like uh uh as closely as you watch the Celtics games like I don’t like yic hasn’t been perfect all year he’s been damn good this isn’t me discrediting yic but he’s had some bad games and for what it’s worth like how much of like is winning a part of it
Because I think that should be a pretty big part something have seven more Winns than the Nuggets seven I mean I’m the biggest win win is valuable guy ever like I’m like yeah I don’t think half these guys should be in the All-Star game because they can’t get in the
Playoffs like I I agree with you I think winning is important I think the Celtics have won a bunch more than everybody else but I don’t know I I think the amount of winning I mean OKC beat the Celtics in the one game they’ve played
They still have to play again and so did the Nuggets that’s not and I understand that point of it but I think the MVP award should be more than just about individual matchups and like oh he had a rough stretch for this month like Tatum has putting up amazing stats as the best
Player on the best team like that that is the definition of what an MVP candidate of what an MVP should be and I’m not saying he should win and I think Shay’s probably the winner right now too I just think it’s obscene that like you haven’t heard like people aren’t even
Considering it as an option I think it’s probably just because of the sheer amount of talent around him they’re just like well of course they’re winning I think that’s lame it’s the same it’s the same treatment Joe gets as a coach what’s crazy to me is almost like yoka
Shay yes I think that’s one two right now people have Giannis and Luca above Tatum and I get think but come on the reason why I think Shay is the clear-cut one and you could make I know what you’re going to say it feels like he’s the only one that’s really overachieving
That team is really kind of a little bit better than everybody thought I know the Celtics have probably been better than people thought they would be but they’re still exactly where people thought they were going to be Milwaukee with Giannis has underachieved it’s a fact that this
Is to your point like I don’t think Giannis should be getting a shout Dallas is what fifth six in the west uh sorry I don’t know let me check all around though yeah they’re not like a team that strikes fear into your heart when you have the schedule yeah I just
Know it’s so close it moves around so much the other two guys lead teams that it’s like ah have to play OKC all right like this isn’t going to be an easy one Denver of course they just won the title so you have that already and if you’re
The Celtics uh every time you play somebody you have a Target on your back so everybody’s getting up for the Celtics too it’s fair I I don’t think you should discredit Tatum I just don’t think he’s the winner sure that’s fine and I I agree with you I’m not saying I
Think he should win I think it should be Shay then joic and then I think Tatum but I just think the fact that he’s being discounted by so many people and like doesn’t feel like we’ve been talking about it like I don’t know I I feel like Tatum lives under a closer
Microscope than other superstars for some reason um even like and I I think it’s just because of where he is like yic has gotten over the the title so he gets the respect well Shay hasn’t won yet but I think this is his second year
Of being great so people give him a pass um Yannis is one Luca is Luca and he’s I think actually Luca’s under a pretty big microscope too so I think it’s just right now I don’t think he’s like that great of a winning player right right now I don’t think so
I think it’s the middle of hasn’t won yet versus has been great for a bunch of years and I I think that shows more of how tough it is to win in the NBA rather than like these players are significantly worse like I don’t know I just think this is just Tatum’s been
Really good this year and I think he deserves credit for it but uh next Celtics thing is something from Howard Beck of the ringer he put together a giant trades something article so we’re going to talk about offseason trade rumors if you don’t want to hear about it tune out now don’t
Leave a nasty comment because we’re aggregating something uh that’s going to be the disclaimer if you not don’t want to listen to Celtics potential offseason trade stuff skip it you can see it on the bottom of the YouTube thumbnail or you can go somewhere later in the video
Listen but that’s what we’re talking about don’t shoot the messenger so uh I’m gonna read a block a text for the context I’ll try to read quick Howard Beck wrote Celtics are H heavily favored to win the East with a star sted lineup in a massive payroll all of which could
Spell trouble if they stumble again in the spring it’s going to be challenging to keep Tatum Brown porzingis holiday and D white in perpetuity even if they were to win the title quote from an Eastern Conference exec Boston has decisions to make they’re not they’re gonna have to figure out who’s
Expendable and who’s not uh more of Howard Beck writing does that mean shedding a talented role player like holiday where the Celtics preserve their depth and instead see what they can get for brown their number two star Rivals have been wondering about his fate from the the moment he signed the 5-year 304
Million extension in July quote from a West exec of the Brown trade or of a potential Brown trade quote I think that’s realistic can you get 80% of jayen by keeping Dereck white and replacing jayen with $20 million player instead of a $40 million player uh more from Howard Beck knowers predicting
Brown will move this summer particularly with Boston in first place but the Celtics will eventually have to confront the financial realities of new CBA and if they did put Brown in the market quote from the West exec jayen would set the record for the biggest return it
Should be a Durant type deal meaning multiple first- round picks and swaps plus high level rotation players Brown might not return Durant’s uh might not have Durant’s resume but he’s also eight years younger so that was a lot basically saying Celtics have decisions to make financially I know it’s not
Anybody’s money but it is money that the Celtics have to worry about in terms of building the roster and keeping it sustainable and speculation of a potential Brown move again said it’s unlikely but if it did happen would get a big return could probably refigure the roster effectively around it lot of
Stuff take in there just thoughts well I don’t think jaylen’s going to be traded I just don’t I I think if the team loses this year or underachieves which would be losing I just think the expectation from what we’ve seen yes unless literally unless somebody gets hurt is that they’re gonna
Win a title they’ve been Far and Away the best team we just did uh 10 minutes on Tatum probably being the MVP because he’s been on the best team by far I think the expectation should be that they’re going to win so if they don’t win after now being what three straight
Years of them not winning when it really felt like they should win it’s going to get frustrating the Celtics have done everything they can do to go all in I think there will be questions going forward what’s going to have to change and if they lose sure I could see Jaylen
Being a part of that but I also don’t know if he can actually be traded until when July until it actually kicks in the new extension I don’t know what the rule is but I remember when when when he signed the deal it was like they can’t trade
Him for quite some time so he’s safe I I just don’t know one I kind of think they’re gonna win two if they do win I really don’t see them shaking anything up they’re going to be so happy that they finally got over the hump they’re not going to really screw around with
What they got I think if you want to explore the Avenue of trading him the way Howard Beck lays it out isn’t the craziest thing yes I do think Derek white can give you quite a bit and I think he’s a very good player great and the way that this team
Has operated this year I’m not even sure they necessarily need jaylen’s playmaking or not playmaking shot creation ability because they’ve had porzingis come in and be the second best guy it it just feels like that and it’s not a slight at Jaylen I just think I know you mean playing at their best
Yeah if you feel like you can take Jaylen away and get a bunch back for him and not feel like you’re truly taking a major step back I could see them doing it but only if it’s a disaster I don’t think they’re GNA win and then be like
Time to take guys off this team 100% yeah they’re going to be like let’s go get another one we’ve proven ourselves now free agents will be willing to come here more than they were last year uh the ownership group is going to be more willing to pay whatever the it’s
Not my money is going to spread wide everyone’s going to be like not my money not my money not my money yeah my championships though and it it’s just not something I see happening I don’t see him losing and and I don’t want to be a cocky person that’s not what I’m
Trying to do it just doesn’t feel like what’s going to happen if if they fail this spring sure it wouldn’t be the craziest thing if you start hearing jayen rumors I don’t know if they would do it the hall would have to be crazy and the hall would have to convince Brad
Stevens that it is convincingly the right move you know if you take Jaylen off of this team it’s going to be a little different you’re going to get stuff back and you might still be able to compete but it’s a risk and you need to convince Brett that the risk is worth
Taking it’s it’s tough like you said if they win they’re not making move like that they’re they’re just they’re not going to trade one of the top six guys I think they’ll eat the cap for a chance to win another one cuz like and like you
Said if not to be cocky but they are the best team in the league for a reason that is the bar wi sorry for the dog barking I can’t help you should be [ __ ] terribly sorry it’s [ __ ] I told you to get that [ __ ] out of
The room I did she’s out of the room you can still hear it um but the the jayen return thing I I think the bit from Howard Beck about a potential Durant like return is is interesting because like that would be a lot I I don’t care about the picks in
That trade like obviously you you take the pick I care about the PS no sure but the point is like if it’s out there getting a player like male Bridges and a player like cam Johnson in return like replace Jaylen Brown for M Bridges and cam Johnson on this team it’s a [ __ ]
Great team like that that is insane that would that would be a nuts lineup those two guys the defense the shooting that like those are the perfect players I don’t think that’s out there right now in a potential Jaylen Brown trade I don’t want to get into the nitty-gritty
Or like look like who would do it what would this like that that’s too deep I don’t know the answers it would be impossible predict this summer if something didn’t happen who would want to make a move like that and what the Celtics could get but if they could get
Three picks and two high level rotation players you’d still have probably the best team in basketball and that’s not a testament to Brown bad that is a testament to Celtics good right like JB is a phenomenal player and the Celtics are best with him on this team but they
Are so much better than the rest of the league right now that you could replace him with two highle guys that make less money or one highle guy that makes less money save a ton of money make it a lot easier on yourself to build and sustain this
This title window with Tatum and still have an amazing team in the best team the league that said again if they win he’s not going anywhere and that’s the bar so I I think it is overwhelmingly likely that Jaylen Brown is on this team past the season barring disaster and
Even if they lose I don’t think the first instinct is going to be to break up the team it’s going to be what can we do to bring in better supporting assets the problem’s going be the money there’s not a lot of flexibility to move guys around without breaking up the top six
And you don’t really want to do that yeah definitely uh we’ll have to see what happens I think that’ll be not a very fun conversation to have if that is the outcome though so we’ll uh cross that bridge when it gets there but let’s go on over to the email see what the
People have to say I believe we have a lot of emails today but before we get to that I will change the background I got you uh let’s check the wheel three entries three potential inut winners today uh two from the email one from the YouTube channel let’s see who’s winning
Themselves a $10 gift card in Bobo comment what toop Jamie Jamie deito sorry if I think I missed a KN I think it’s Jamie deito uh but we’ll email you back we’ll get you a $10 gift card in popo send us followup email hbtc gmail.com with your
Name and phone number we’ll get you hooked up with $10 card thank you for the email anyways let’s jump on over see what people have to say what’s popping from RJ every win is a good game even in fellas that was a fun way to roll into
The break the seas are 43 and 12 and I’m making a resolution uh for the rest of the season if the Celtics win the game everyone played well the old platitude players use of I don’t care about my stats we won that’s my attitude from here on out JT has six dribble three
Misses but we get the win good game JB has a bunch of turnovers and we come out on top good game winning song was everything and man did the Celtics have the solution on Wednesday night my favorite odd ball side of the game was this the Celtics in the second quarter
Outscored the nets for the entire first half 32 38 points to 32 oh the Celtics second quarter 38 points outscored the Nets first uh first half points to 32 that is sick second favorite is the Celtics could have gone for scoreless for the final 16 minutes and 54 seconds
Of the game and still won uh I was very happy to see Jordan Welsh make his first quarter debut and even though he didn’t score he was doing all the good teammate things that lead to winning zero points but we win Walsh had a good game be well
And enjoy the allstar break RJ R.J is drinking the green Kool-Aid he’s hyped I love it it’s fun to be positive but if we did that there would be no show well that’s the dichotomy of the show because I do do that you it’s just
You don’t just be a good game yeah good game Tatum this is true though there would not be a lot of opinions next one from Michael hilly Brad Stevens good guy what’s up guys to hope you’re doing well I just saw that baton and Stevens are doing well on the Blazers and Grizzlies
And it got me thinking about how good Brad is about sending players to a good situation yeah even going back to Josh Richardson and ball bow they both went to places where they could get playing time I am sure it helps his reputation uh and it might make players consider
Signing with Boston let me know what you think I I think there’s two different points here I think one yes Brad Stevens is a great jam and probably and is a great guy but I think the reason these players go to good situations is because they Celtics sign and draft good players
It’s just they don’t have time to help them develop all the time I think part of the reason they’re going to places and and seeing minutes is because whoever’s trading for them wants them I don’t think they’re making moves just to make them I know there are NBA moves
That just happened for that reason like guys are like we need salary filler or whatever but in the case of Lamar Stevens and Benton neither one of those guys had to be traded to fill salary Stevens could have stayed with the Celtics and Tillman could have joined as
The 15th guy in the roster and Banton was just traded for picks so the opposing side definitely wanted those players to Michael’s Point as soon as the Lamar thing happened I was like that sucks from a you don’t get to be on the Celtics standpoint but he’s gonna get
All the minutes of Memphis and sure enough he’s playing a real role with the Grizzlies who just beat Milwaukee he showed out on national TV and Banton has gone to Portland another team that is just waiting for the season to end and the lottery to start and he’s making the most of his
Opportunity so it’s good for these guys I’m glad that they’re actually having the chance to have the ball in their hands instead of just stand there and be ready to shoot because truthfully especially with Bon that’s just not his game agree agree good for them glad they
Can go to good situation shout out Brad you know what yeah you know yeah good for Brad good a guy’s good W Brad next email rj again what’s po good news on the recent history front afternoon guys in keeping with my always look on the bright side of life attitude about the
Celtics let’s look at how far we’ve come in a few short years as regards to our big men remember this Stellar assortment of jents who filled the center and power forward spots in 2020 2021 in descending order of minutes played we had Tristan Thompson 12 uh 1287 Grant Williams at
1138 Daniel Ty at 1,27 Robert Williams at 985 semi oay at 950 Luke cornette at 254 Javari Parker at 138 Taco Fall at 136 and 61 minutes of Mo Vagner will haunt us to this day the good news from this season is that it was only 72 game
Long uh all those minutes together resulted in 11.6 win shares um over three short years we’ve Consolidated that too Jason Tatum at 1860 Al Horford at 1224 Christof porzingis at 1181 Luke cornette at 581 n k at 283 Lamar Stevens at 122 Drew Peterson at three and Xavier Tillman who
Has yet to play in a Celtic green uh or in Celtic green interesting to note is that Al and KP have logged about as many minutes in 55 games as Thompson and granted over the entire short season also this year we’ve had to do less mix
And match with our bigs with a solid three-player rotation where in 2020 2021 Brad had to play The Wheel of front Court meaning that it was uh it was about as likely we’d see semi and Ty at the four five than Granton Thompson I almost forgot this year’s Battalion of
Bigs has wrecked up 21.3 win shares so let’s give a well-deserved round of applaud to Brad Stevens better bigs have resulted in big Improvement this year along with the foundation for the future even as Big Al ages out B well RJ a lot of Brad Stevens love and the email
Should be I mean he put this wonderful team together for everybody to watch so it’s funny like that 21 season was an absolute dumpster fire they still made the playoffs and it was the shortest season of all so good job Celtics actually the co season was shorter I
Guess I think the craziest part to me is so I’ve done something similar with this of like uh not big men but I’ve looked at the spacing like the shooting in like x amount of years the Celtics have gone from their best role player Shooters being semi oay Brad Waker
And Daniel Ty to what Sam Hower pton Pritchard and pick your poison Al Horford I guess at this point like the the Improvement in floor spacing and the emphasis on that point has been so huge and having two guys like Hower and pton Pritchard who I feel like are just like
Not cast off but like yeah those guys are normal like not every team has just two role players who can shoot the [ __ ] out of the ball like that Off the Bench so I think that’s important too yeah I mean the shooting helps it helps defenses have to stay honest on
The drives with the star players I think um having somebody like porzingis in particular makes those Shooters even more valuable because if they leave him alone he has the easiest mismatch ever almost all the time and you know if they don’t threes are going down that they are Missoula ball baby uh next
Email from Jacob kotchman buy out thoughts what’s popping guys hope that counts yes it did sorry you didn’t win I’ve been listening to almost every pod since the preseason and I love it keep up the great word thank you thank you uh I had an email drafted up a few weeks
Ago about a lot of different ideas mostly inseason tournament ideas and my opinion on trade targets but I figured speculating like that might get me disappointed if it didn’t go I wanted so I didn’t send it send it anyways we’ll be here anyways now that the deadline is
Passed can share my thoughts and speculate who if anyone the SS can bring in from the biop market I’d love to hear your guys’ thoughts also uh all right long list uh lots of thoughts I’m going to try to sum it up so I don’t end up
Just boring your ears off not that your email is boring but people get annoyed when I just read off a page I’ve seen the comments one Killian Hayes uh said not like a lot of people agree with me lottery pick for a reason I don’t know
If this is in order um but I hope not uh he says you know I’ll just read it fast I think he’s a fair raw guy that needs some good development uh we’ve seen how this Seas have developed some former lottery picks like JT and JB so I don’t
See a reason not to take a shot with Killian it’s also not news to anyone the Pistons can’t develop guys to save their own lives best case he develops well and we have him for cheap worst case he doesn’t and a little bit of money was wasted thoughts on Killian hay Sam
Ass yeah he’s he’s not very good and I get that they might not develop guys well but like he was getting real meds and he didn’t do much but uh two Patty Mills to my understanding his current salar around 6.8 would make him eligible
For the Celtic sign if he got by out yes he’s having a down year comparatively but wouldn’t mind wouldn’t play major minutes anyways while offering a veteran experience and Leadership sure I take Patty Mills if they buy him out [ __ ] it why not I thought about that um ahead of
The deadline I was like oh what if they got him but they don’t really need him they they don’t need more help at the guard spot but I know we talked about this I think with Bobby and it was like the most valuable thing you’re going to
Get from anybody that you get in the buyout Market is leadership and Veteran presence and Patty Mills is somebody that could give you that he was a part of those Spurs teams that won and in the early 2010s so it wouldn’t hurt to have a little bit of extra help on that front
Sure why not agree he’s got a title bring him in for the first of the floor fellas that’d be fun that’s right three Auto Porter Jr you guys covered this in your YouTube video about possible B candidates and provided me with A New Perspective wasn’t high on the at first
But the championship experience he has could improve could prove to be invaluable for this team especially if this sees are in the finals because he might know some of his Western Conference playoff teams better than a lot of the guys simply because of his time in Golden State sure I don’t mind
Auto porter for the same reason I think I’d weirdly rather Patty Mills just because I think that veteran leadership might be better but not I the whole point is neither of them would play so I guess if you’re gonna get somebody who won’t play you might as well get
Somebody in a position that would play more and that would be auto porter so yep yeah next one dlan Wright sorry we’re gonna cover it later he’s wed up by the heat so we’re gonna skip that one no uh Dylon right five Sam’s favorite Robin Lopez we all know that Robin has
Been in the league for a while so he has to be wise very valuable to a Celtics team looking to get over the hump then as you guys said he seems personality would plug perfectly into the current crew and he wouldn’t hurt their chemistry I agree yeah i’ take Rob Rob
Lopez rules my only concern is immediately after he got bought out by the Kings after getting traded by the Bucs he was courtside at the Bucks game so I think he might just stick around that team for a while I think he’s just gonna hang out but just reading the book dude you
Know how long it’s you know how many games it’s gonna take him to read that [ __ ] book if he I mean have you ever tried to read a book at a basketball game no lot a lot you ever tried to read a book at a basketball game absolutely not it’s it can’t be
Done i’ take there would be fun uh six Gallow also sorry probably not gonna happen um he is with the bucks now which we’ll talk about seven James book Knight another formly lottery pick who just didn’t get developed properly he can provide a few points per game off the
Bench and is somewhat efficient doing so he’s also cheap enough still kind of young and should be hungry for a second chance please let me know what you guys think of these I know you’ve already covered them briefly but I’m really intrigued by killing Hayes especially
Because he’s medium risk I reward uh I also plan to email again so those I thoughts will make their way to you guys eventually hell yeah email us some more please email us uh I don’t know if we’re very high on Killian Hayes but if our Pistons don’t believe
In him I don’t know what to tell I I get the vision though like I’m also not very high in James book Knight only because I know there were some uh I don’t know what the word is uh attitude issues yeah that’s the word in Charlotte so I don’t know if he’d be
The best idea either but the rest the ideas I like I didn’t hear I haven’t heard Patty Mills before so I kind of like that one so thanks Jake please email us gun we uh email us thank you for listening glad you like us yeah appreciate you next one Jamie DeVito
What’s popping fellas considering that d0 one two three five and six are retired jersey numbers for the Celtics current starters we 0 4789 and that is the lowest possible Jersey numbers total for the Celtics is this the lowest Jersey total jersey number for the classic transitional
Modern NBA whoa so wait what is the question is this like the lowest if you add up the jersey numbers of all the starters do the Celtics have the lowest sum probably one of them is zero so there’s a good chance I I it I don’t know off the top of my
Head I know the Lakers had uh well no they have 23 in there for LeBron but one of the seasons he decided all of a sudden he wanted to wear six again they would have had three six if deel Russell was there that would be one Vanderbilt would be
Two but I don’t know I don’t being 15 would [ __ ] that huh yeah it has to be it’s got to be pretty close because this total is what uh 17 28 28 so anybody with a 20 number in their starting lineup is probably already [ __ ] [ __ ]
Dude good luck so I I I think probably for sure that it is but I don’t know if there’s a place to check but thank you for the email it’s got to be up there though um what’s popping RJ contract statuses morning guys taking it slow in
The All-Star break here two things can you break down whose bird rights or other contract elements excuse me might come into play between this year and next I know Springer and tman are in deals favorable for the Seas but what about Luke for example also how do the
Two-way guys work if we don’t upgrade them at The Season’s end second I hope people tune in the gie game on Sunday at 1:30 Eastern I know Davidson doesn’t get the love that others do but he’s improved enough to be considered a top player at that level be well RJ okay
Um this is a Keith SMI question I don’t know I am not uh great at contracts um LC is under contract I think this is the last year of his deal I don’t know what bird rights the Celtics will have uh all we hear is tman Bird right Tatum bird writes brown bird
Writes they traded smart traded Rob traded Grant just think of guys that would have had that on um Hower they’ll have no will they I don’t know if they have bird RS on Hower when his thing is up I don’t think so they might have him on white because
They acquired him via trade so I think they have his not sure if they would have holidays okay a team gets a player’s full bird rights if they spend three years with their team without leaving in free agency doesn’t have to be on a three-year deal this applies to
Players on a three-year deal players on a two-year deal followed by a one-year deal or players on the consecutive one-year deals so those are full bird rights so Luke cornette I don’t believe in that case um the Celtics probably won’t have his bird rights because he
Has not been with the team for three full years he has been the team this year last year right yeah this year last year and then 12 games in the 212 season to end the year so they don’t have Luke cornet’s bird rights um but I think he’s
Under contract for next year too let me double check he’s under contract this year no so then he’s done so they will just have to resign him but I think that’ be vet minimum is really GNA go far into the cap yeah so I think they’ll be okay on Luke um they
Will double checking here so I don’t misspeak um since Hower was on the team for all of last year under standard deal and all of this year as well um next year have his final year he will have they will have bird rights to him not my
Money uh when he becomes a free agent yes early bird rights as well team gets a player’s early bird rights if he spends two years with the team without leaving a free agency so they will have that um it allows the team to pay either once 175% of the previous salary or 10
14.5% of the average League salary so they have some rights with Luke as well um they also inherited Tillman’s bird rights uh because he was traded I believe they inherit Springers as well don’t quote me on that um and so they have bird rights for most of the players
On the team no bird rights for OAS all the new guys and they will have Jordan walshes bir rights by the end of his current contract as well as far as the two-way contracts if they don’t bring them up it’s just a two-way contract he’ll just be a free the end of year
Free to do whatever he wants I don’t think they have any rights after a two-way player so yeah hopefully that answers most of the questions I tried my best found the definition pretty quick so I I hope I hit all the points there yeah it’s a good answer but I mean
That’s that’s for Derek white they’ll have W already I’m pretty sure they just got his bird rights from the Spurs yeah uh Drew holiday has a player option but if he if they figure a way to keep him around for a new contract they will have his bird rights porzingis they will have
Bird rights on by the time his contract has expired because he signed for this year and then two years after Horford they should have bird rights on sooner or later so if they do not have bird rights on guys it is likely that they will then have bird rights pretty soon
Yeah and bird rights just allows players to pay more than other teams to retain their players effectively so I thought that means it doesn’t matter if you go over the cap for them both you you can pay more uh bird rights um let’s see and finally for full bird
Rights the only limit in place is the max salary the player can receive um Etc so it just it allows them to keep the team easier than they would leave uh anyways yeah you’re right was mainly just for Max contracts the bird rights thing is they can pay more but it does
Allow them to go over the cap to keep their players like the Warriors that’s the example that’s the poster child for bird rights um let’s uh I’ve been trying to say anyways less because we got a comment saying I say it too much H not like not maliciously he goes Jack you
Really love that word I was like I hate silence man I need to transition come on let’s uh let’s dig into the NBA section see what’s cooking around the league uh see who’s play oh wait is there any NBA section we can do right now it’s the allar break nobody’s
Playing you know we can talk standings check in there’s not but you know what we can talk about the buck who lost to the Trail Blazers no they lost to Memphis they lose to both maybe they lost to both let’s check I think was the
Game on Thursday that they lost to Oh I thought they lost to the Blazers recently am I crazy they might have also lost to the Blazers they lost in Dam’s uh return game it it was they lost to the Blazers at the end of January my bad
You’re right they did lose to Memphis is what I was thinking of but they are now let’s see one two three and seven with Doc three and seven in their last 10 that’s really bad did you see uh did you see the picture of Doc’s fresh cut
For the All-Star Game no he just has his regular haircut but somebody quote tweeted it was like why does he look like a Dominican like Taxi Driver Jesus je did you see his quote after the game he was like some of us were here some of us were in
Cabo k whatever it was yeah whatever it was he’s just like I hate these guys and I can’t believe I took this job you know the best storyline just quit just say yeah no psych see you later doc exit interview this team just can’t be saved oh man there’s no saving this
Group I mean he only trashed him to death when he was on the Bill Simmons podcast before he took the job it’s it’s not shocking that all of a sudden they’re not turned around and season isn’t saved no Adrien Griffin got a raw deal that’s what it is he did it to
Himself doc did it to himself but anyways Celtics top the league obviously we know this uh Tim brues we won’t by go by conference here let me share screen if my computer decides to stop [ __ ] itself um Celtics are top the league uh Timberwolves in second then the Thunder
Cavs Clippers I’m not going to read the whole thing but bottom of the league pistons pistons not far behind the Wizards respect the Pistons they brought it back yeah they brought it back in a in in a pretty big way they’re what like five and 13 they are back last 18 like
That’s that’s bad but it’s like so I heard someone say they were like that’s normal bad not Pistons bad so respect they’ve been normal bad they’re out of the hole I think this is interesting the differential like per game like the rockets and warriors aren’t very good
But they have a positive differential in the sea of red and then like the Hornets are lowkey the worst you know the Hornets haven’t won a game by double digit this year yet now I know that that’s crazy right that’s insane they won 13 games all of
Which by single digits they are really ass really terrible um other teams who are probably better than the record uh the guess there’s not many the Bulls are only a minus 1.1 even though they’re like that the the kings are scraping by plus5 and yet they’re eight games above
500 that’s kind of nuts the heat are five games above and plus2 per game game so that’s insane as well um actually I’ll give the heat a pass because the Celtics did beat them by 40 so that’s probably hurting their overall differential uh but that said the Celtics
Differ yeah they got killed by the Bucks yeah I think I saw a stat somewhere that said if the Celtics finish with a they were like three full differential points above the next team that’s only happened like four other times ever and three of them won the title so like
Pretty good company uh or three three other times two were the Warriors and one was the Bucks in 2020 who lost so don’t put that evil out there good percentage though I’m saying they’re a good company um anyways let’s talk about Delon wri uh who was bought
Out by the Wizards and is now signing with the Miami Heat uh sorry to Jake who emailed about it uh fine like any any thoughts any hard-hitting analysis on this one Sam uh they could Pro use the extra body here after that Massacre that happened last Sunday when the Celtics
Were in town everybody and their mother getting hurt on that Casia Center floor uh sucks to see roier have gone out sucks to see Josh richardon have gone out but it’s good for Miami adding somebody like Wright who plays defense isn’t uh a young inexperienced guy he actually has
Plenty of years in the league and I’m sure he could play some sort of role with them I can’t wait to hate him come spring he’ll drop 30 in the playoffs against the Celtics don’t worry about it you bet uh speaking of former Celtics so danila galinari who was also brought up we
Recorded a whole last video talking about ginari as a Celtics guy and we had to delete the whole thing because he got signed by the Bucks uh probably gonna play yeah it was immediate which better than having it had happened like immediately after especially because the video we put out today appreciate y’all
For watching um my biggest takeaway from this is really glad the Bucks are focusing in on improving their terrible defense this is really really groundbreaking decision by them to bring in a completely one-sided basketball all defensive level player Den ginar he’s somebody known for the absolute clamps torture CH what they do
It oppon they just don’t know what to do if you’re Milwaukee and you’re looking at the bio Market who are you gonna go get I don’t think there’s anybody I guess maybe he chose this time with them instead but like he really going to play
Over like Dame and uh who the hell is they guess P Bev yeah I don’t know like there could anybody’s better than kinari on defense like it’s not like they like there’s might not be good options but they literally picked the worst [ __ ] one sometimes you just go all in you’re
Just like [ __ ] it we’re going to score more points than everybody else it’s not working though it’s not working fine with me uh anyways next thing Klay Thompson uh move to the bench for the Warriors Sam and you might laugh you might say oh damn he’s cooked put up 35
Points in his first game Off the Bench it is the first time he’s come off the bench in 10 years since his rookie season and he absolutely cooked he credited Manu for it he said just gotta let the ego go when you think about coming off the bench and all that I
Thought about man Jo that guy has four rings and a gold medal came off the bench his whole career I don’t think anyone looks down on this Hall of Fame candidacy he’s one of the greats I embraced it before the tip 35 points good for him I don’t know who started in
That game but I’m curious now and they got the win too so pods o that was terrible pods that was good one pods is really good I’m sick give me a break pods is the real [ __ ] dude um let me see who did start probably Curry pods Wiggins
Draymond Looney or Kinga yeah Curry pods green Wiggins kaminga um pod’s played well he’s been great Klay though Klay just [ __ ] exploded Off the Bench um good for him dude they keep finding great players paj jimsky is so good like what he he had a monster game recently
Yeah 25 five seven and eight um he had one where he had one where he put a 30 am I crazy I thought he had a 30 pointer nope that the best game I lied um but he’s been great this year cred him oh yeah had 14 assists but yeah Klay
Thompson good for him glad to see him making the switch it’s probably for the best I I don’t like clay why he’s a crybaby I I don’t like him uh wait wait till he starts playing poorly Off the Bench so then it’s not going to be honoring Manu it’s going to
Be oh like you know I I don’t know what my is on this team how am I supposed to perform I mean yeah good for him he had a good game off the bench and who knows like they could have found something here pods is a player that has shown the
Whole season that he can play and he’s only a rookie and having a vet like clay come off the bench could help them I mean they’ve kind of turned around here lately starting to climb up the West a little bit but yeah I think Clay’s annoying I I’ve had it with Clay sure
Sure um speaking of annoying or I guess guess it’s not annoying but it’s cool but maybe you call his voice annoying tyus halbert’s on the pat mcavey show uh oh I haven’t seen this he has two different voices and you might be saying shut the [ __ ] up that’s stupid of course
He doesn’t have two different voices he has two he has two different voices let me play he pull it up let’s see all right let’s see gota switch the tab this was him on Pat McAfee uh I’ll play it I I’ll raise the audio in the Final Cut
Too if after and those guys left and sabonis is a great player and they had other guys but like I think for the more casual basketball fan it wasn’t necessarily appealing you know like yeah post basketball is not appealing unless it’s yic or Joel or Shaq you know what I
Mean like you have two different voices I do people say that all the time did you hear I mean that’s insane what the [ __ ] you you you thought I was crazy when I pulled this up right you probably like this is stupid as hell like what do we I
Just thought he was going to be like doing an impression like it sounds like he’s like doing this on purpose to mess with them dude and then yeah he’s talking listen he talks about it after he’s like you have no idea yeah that is unbelievable I I didn’t know if it was
Our microphone I never catch it you know like I watch podcast after and I’m like dang my voice changed I I don’t sentence yeah did you guys I didn’t do I wrote it down two different voices wrote it down it just happened it just happens that way crazy like that that’s insane it’s
It’s completely different voices switching mid sentence like it it is what that tells me he’s never going to be able to coach you think anybody’s taking him seriously like that he’s in the Huddle and then all of a sudden he’s he’s talking like KL it’s guys get your head of the game
You can’t rebound the ball at all it’s not yeah he goes from Doc to Steve urel that’s truly incredible though like it is that’s wild that’s wild if he was doing on purpose I would be very impressed yeah but I mean I’m more impressed that it’s not a purpose or I
Guess freaked out like it’s just so weird I don’t know I know what that no idea uh okay last NBA thing we got today uh is Howard Beck which we we pulled the Celtic stuff out of his article that he put together for the ringer earlier uh we can pick through
The rest of what he’s got going on a lot of stuff we’re not going to cover every single thing but we can touch on everything quickly uh basically this is a quote from Eastern Conference exec there will be a lot of parts moved this offseason there’s going to be some
Options some high level guys that ask to get moved first question is about LeBron just said no one expects James to leave L Los Angeles some teams are monitoring him uh Sam amck Anthony Slater and Joon boa the athletic put together something that said not only rival Executives increasingly convinced that James might
Want out but they’re also focused on the brownie James factor which continues to loom large James has talked about for years his dream of playing with him uh the idea that is any team that wants to go to up its chances of Ling James should make it a priority to go after
Brony which is just [ __ ] we’ve heard for months so yeah but that was the first tidbit not much from the uh um well I almost said Michael pea not much from who the [ __ ] am I talking about Howard Beck I lost my mind um the first interesting thing is the Spurs
Apparently made a a run at Trey young before the trade deadline uh they inquired about him and de Jon Murray and people are convinced he said from an East exec he’s available talking about Trey young uh I think they would love to try uh love to trade Trey talking about
The Hawks um and said that the Spurs are probably going to be the top of the list or they’re probably they like already tried and it could happen so and we’ve talked about that fit I think it makes sense it is the best of all the fits
Yeah I mean a guy that can’t play defense having a seven foot4 Gumby Mr Fantastic type player behind him to be the backline perfect there is no better place to put Trey young I completely agree the offensive capabilities would be fun for them too if you’re the Spurs you should be
Willing to over pay and I I don’t even like Trey young that much as a player but it’s a good fit it helped the offense and he can cover for a defense um the next thing is Donan Mitchell quote from an East exec there’s no doubt he’s leaving once his contract
Ends I’ve been hon yeah there you go he’s Cavs fans not too pleased with that they’re always talk about it yeah see you later he’s gone I will say he’d probably be a damn good fit on that on that next team I think him and Brunson
Could work well I know you’re big on they’d both have to have the ball but I think he would be great somewhere in the Western Conference if you ask me back sure sure uh the Durant sons tidbit he pulled out was if my mouse wants to go
On the screen uh quote Durant for sure looks around this is if they get bounced early or in the first round or something uh and if he Durant left the GM said Booker would have to consider his options too so basically like Suns lose binoculars keep an eye on the Suns if
They’re out early so keep an eye on on the Suns that’s what you’re saying pretty much I think the Suns might make the second round maybe the Western C finals to be honest I don’t know I feel like they picked up lately and like that I think they’ll beat the wolves in the
Series I think they’ll beat the Thunder in the series they beat OKC that’ be I would love to see dur OKC playoff series I I think the experience weighs in um but Durant’s under contract for this year and two more so it would be forcing
His way out yet again which I don’t know if you do um Howard Beck said there’s also pressure on Milwaukee uh shucker no one expects Yannis or no one expects Giannis or embiid to ask out even if things goes badly but ravels are keeping an eye anyways and on leard how funny
Would be would that be something yeah if uh well I you’re talking about Lillard but I’m like yeah wouldn’t it be funny if Giannis asked out after they did everything bent over backwards got it got it the whole team last summer to bring in Dame and then Yan like I’ve
Seen enough send them West see you gone goodbye please um Mavs there’s less of a championship or busfield in Dallas but there’s surely an urgency to make a deep playoff run to reassure Luca donit and that the Mavs can contend in the near future a playoff FR flop excuse me
Probably wouldn’t put donic in play but it could make Dallas reconsider its commitment to Irving so there’s that Clippers Dall truly does need to like make a little noise in the playoffs this is like one of the rare times I feel like I’m not sitting here looking at it
Like you can either win or be the absolute worst they’re in a position now they’ve made enough moves to have put a team together that they need to see some sort of results just win a first round series I think that first round yeah um Clippers The Perennial hype perennially
Hurt Clippers have been crashing and burning nearly every postseason but few execs expect a break up if they flop again the franchise already signed kawhai to an extension and is expected to go all out to keep Paul George and Harden regardless of how they Faire in the playoffs because the Clippers are
Moving to a new two billion dollar Arena probably good reason to keep your star players I would I would agree with that one of the few times I would say regardless of if you win a title just bring them back just like let’s keep it
A little no matter what um the heat more than one Executive also listed the Miami Heat is a potential candidate for a shake up given Jimmy Butler’s age 35 in September in mileage Chicago Bulls who worked hard to unload Zack LaVine will surely try again uh so there there um
And then the financial time bombs the t-wolves the Minnesota Timberwolves are now leading a the West at 37 and6 have soaring expectations and a soaring payroll that will almost certainly have to be reduced soon to avoid a massive luxury tax Bill the most likely solution
A trade of cat I think it happens the summer set of WX ex wow there you go see you later Allstar um how much tax are they going to pay when Anthony Edward’s extension keep kicks in and Cat’s extension jumps said in eastern exec who knows Pelicans the same goes for the
Rising pels who have three primary stars and a surplus of talented young players who will be getting big raises soon a major strain for a small Market team that’s allergic to paying luxury tax New Orleans has to make a decision between Zion and Ingram an East exec said I
Think that happens this summer interesting could be Z see a buddy you think so just not on the court I don’t know I mean we were at that game where he was playing as the Celtics and he did have a takeover stretch there but he’s played in 44 games year he’s fine I
Think angram has been far more consistent he’s shown that he can be a hub too where he’s setting up his teammates and passing the ball well and putting them in the spots to succeed and if you trade Zion you’re probably going to get some good pie back I think if you
Do that you’re in a little bit of a better spot to win but the problem is the West is so stacked a lot of those teams are younger the ceiling with Zion is just so much higher than the ceiling with an Ingram Leed team that it’s like
It’s tough it’s true it’s not easy to get guys to go there no one’s going to play with Ingram yeah and then the last it’s [ __ ] it’s true like you’re not going to PIC to play with Brandon Ingram you’re it was just funny to hear maybe
If Zion’s there you will at least you know share his food with you but what are you going to do last thing is teams pois to strike it will be a while before we get a clear picture on any of this before we can separate the speculation
From rumor and rumor from reality but we do already know which teams are poised to strike Nicks Nets Jazz Thunder and Spurs have all been stockpiling first round picks in hopes of poaching the next Wayward Superstar of the Sixers the rare Contender with salary cap room will be aggressively shopping for a third
Star the Lakers and Warriors desperately need to add Talent around their aging cores the Pistons desperately need to to do dot dot dot something anything they just got to wait and they will have ample cap room to chase uh someone Howard Beck writes uh so yeah that that’s Howard Beck’s article figured
We’d Rock through anything interesting of note I think we talked about most of it but I I think we did a good job of kind of commenting as we went but as far as the Pistons are concerned he makes a good point where it’s like they’re just
Not playing the way the game is played today it’s SpongeBob come on something that and it’s like teams don’t really get good from free agency anymore yes they make trades and and the way he lays out how those other teams have gone about their business put themselves in
The position to make moves even a team like Utah who isn’t like a competitive side just yet has the assets to get in that mix I mean yesterday at the trade deadline we were like what are they going to do could they do something and they didn’t except for selling guys to
Get more picks yeah I think they could buy I know you like the Jazz as a buyer I think it’s definitely possible but it’s gonna be time soon eventually they’ll get there it’s been two years a year and a half of the score we’re like come
On um all right let’s move to the rat list here do you want to kick us off or do you want me to go first uh I’ll go first Rat L cold dude it is freezing I I know we talked with the top of the show here but we were walking around here
Today we both had gloves on both had shoes on as you do when you go outside you have shoes on uh but it was so cold we were waiting in line for the ferris wheel just freezing the involuntary tears nose running I mean just I don’t know how
People do this all the time I saw people going for a run with no gloves on can you believe that I can’t believe it you don’t you don’t know about the the need for gloves I’ll tell you that gloves are the most important piece of clothing when it comes to
Warth believe you I believe you I’m I’m not a gloves guy I don’t know I can’t remember last time I’ve worn gloves know wellit when’s the last time you like went outside I this whole narrative just because I don’t run every day doesn’t mean I don’t go outside I go to games we
Have we have shows where you’re like I haven’t really done anything I don’t I don’t have a record every other day you act like we record once a week and I’ve [ __ ] been in a hole for a week we record every other day I talk to your
Dumb ass every single [ __ ] day and just because I don’t go outside for my job means I haven’t been outside in 12 hours isn’t some absurdity what if you like drove to Chick-fil-A I’m working I just work I get a here it’s $20 who cares F have you
Worked at Chick-fil-A streak yet hell no it’s on the ground next to me let’s go still strong hell yeah um I’ll do a friendly R I need to clarify that I’m not actually upet ratas Trevor hos he writes for the Boston Globe that [ __ ] runs around like
Steph Curry and my dumbass had to guard him at Globe ball dude I’m running laps when when I when you when I you talk about off ball movement this is not like coming off screens this isn’t like oh yeah he is running around the court
Trying I’m like dude stop for one sec no it’s more than it’s worse worse than you it is like when I I’m not saying laps is like an exaggeration or like a metaphor to what I’m doing I’m literally running laps chasing him he runs under the
Basket around tries to get open back and psycho going around again another lap another it doesn’t stop and then he pulls up from [ __ ] 5 feet behind the three-point line and I can’t do [ __ ] cuz I’m trying to catch him on the lap and running through four screens it’s so
[ __ ] you’re gonna adapt eventually you’ll get there no I don’t think even even if it was you like you would have trouble with it because they like is yes the cuts are so quick it’s not even that it’s just their whole game plan is set a million off ball screens to find him
Open from 5et behind the three-point line and then said another one so he can come in and cut to the hoop and either get a float or like dude it’s impossible like J like J King picked him up J King was there when we played on Friday he
Picked him up to guard him and he’s still looking in 5 because then God forbid you lose him in [ __ ] transition because you’re you got no chance it’s like credit to him this is a friendly rless like I said but my [ __ ] God I I couldn’t keep up and
Then like we’re getting out in the break and my my team’s like come on let’s run I’m like let’s run brother I been great baby let’s run oh my God it was H Jesus man it’s it’s more off ball running than I’ve seen by it’s it’s proc more than
Proc like that’s like you know what I’m saying like what he does I can’t man it’s impossible all right got to work out in for sure you got to communicate better that’s what it sounds like oh and I hit my shots too four for six yeah yeah we we’re big time the Twan
Game me and Jay King pick and roll was very good on [ __ ] Friday we cooked it was good uh Rat list kids I’ve had it I’ve been I’ve been around for a day and a half now away from home yesterday it’s just like it’s just other people’s kids
You don’t want to put up with other people’s kids we’re like in the hot tub like these kids like jump in and like they don’t have the concept of personal space so they’re like right up against you like H at the Museum we went to today
Which I’ll talk more about in a minute they just everywhere just running around cutting you off you almost step on them it’s tough to deal with I I truly feel for some parents I mean when they’re your own kids you obviously feel different which
Is good but a lot of kids a lot of kids I worked at a summer camp for two years summer Camp’s different because you know the kids okay sure and you’re in charge of the kids so you kind of have like you know you be like cut it out
Sitting timeout no pool time for you you gonna do I was the counselor for a group of fifth graders I think and I I had an army yeah see fun with I was the the leading camp counselor we did uh this we did Olympics where all the there was
Like I had like four Co co- counselors for the group and so we all we drafted did the kids just like did Olympics where they would compete in like they had handball they had soccer they had a bunch of [ __ ] and they would just be
Like how many points do I get for that and they they they do like they’d be in art and they do some shitty drawing like do I get points do I get [ __ ] points this we had them in they’re ready and then I I brought a speaker to the camp
Which this the camp was like uh like we don’t like technology like we want you be an which like shut the [ __ ] up but I brought a speaker fine having a group of fifth graders sixth graders Maybe what that age where they’re like they’re trying to be cool or whatever they think
They’re cool and making them sing uh What Makes You Beautiful by One Direction while marching around the camp Peak it was [ __ ] phenomenal because then then we’d throw it over like once a day we’d be like uh did like the screaming part come up and I we just
Point to one we’d be like Tommy hit it and he be like yeah then we it was great phenomenal Vibes at the camp the whole summer it was was one of the great jobs it was great it was a good time we played hide and seek and one of them
Hid in this you know the storage containers that you like see outside in the backyard or something like with all the the toys and stuff in it just just picture like like a plastic one yeah yeah he was there were three of them in there we playing n the zek and his
[ __ ] sardin in there and we’re like we didn’t find him for like 20 minutes we’re like what the [ __ ] are you doing so there was one day back back in my Prime when we were all working at the nursing home and Jack I know you worked
In one but not as a dietary person you were there part of clinical yeah yeah and have you seen like the type of things they deliver the food in like the the carts that have all the slots for the trays on sure sure me and the boys HIIT in the carts
One day when when the lon cook was coming up to meet us we all we all three of us in the carts and we let him kind of Wonder for like 15 minutes before we popped out we’re like hey like we’re here she was on the Walky like hey have
You seen any of these guys like they’re not here I don’t know what they’re no but she was confused that means yeah like what no like I don’t think she was pissed but she was like confused like she was like concerned because I mean that that was our homie
Of course we’re not going to like you know just abandon like that yeah yeah and we’re not doing it just piss her off we like let’s have a laugh but that was a great day that’s fun that’s fun uh ratas it’s simple but always traffic so
I was driving back from um ball in Dorchester so I was coming back took the highway um it amazes me how much people don’t know how to drive and I know it’s stupid I know we say it all the time the traffic where it’s just [ __ ] drive
And there wouldn’t be traffic is like just [ __ ] drive and there wouldn’t be traffic what we like serious but like it’s definitely not that simp but it is facts like just drive we’re merging onto a second Highway and there’s an entire backup and we get there and once we get there like
It goes for a mile and everyone’s free flowing again why are we backed up just [ __ ] drive faster just go and there wouldn’t be a problem here hit the gas bu oh makes no sense to me and people if you go I was driving like all the way
Back late after the Celtics game on Wednesday alone on the road and someone is driving 30 and a 30 [ __ ] you I’m sorry we’re going like I’m having to slight go hit the brakes when I’m driving 35 terrible eat [ __ ] it’s 1:00 a.m. you shouldn’t be out here if you’re
Driving go go home pull over sleep in your car like ah pisses me off man just [ __ ] off I’m mad uh Rat list these ladies at the illusion Museum today so we went we went around today we explored as I said it was very cold one of the things we did
Was we went to the Museum of illusions was very cool there were all these different uh little images you could look at that would make it look like they’re moving there were games you could play there were rooms you could go in and like it was like you look real
Big on this side of the room then you don’t look big on the other side of the room there was this one that was like a walkway and they had all these lights and stuff spinning and your brain thinks you’re like falling all over the
Place but back to the games so there was a game that do you know like the little toys a it’s like you want to make a picture it has eight tiles and there are nine spots and you have to move them to make the picture you know what I’m
Saying yeah when there’s like one free space and the rest are like normal correct yes so that’s how this game was and the object of the game was to get this big tile that took up four spaces out of the board by moving the other
Tiles okay so the two of us are working to get through this game and as we’re working to get through this game this group of ladies is like [ __ ] heckling in French because we’re in Quebec which is French Canada so I don’t know what they’re saying and then
They like come over and like it feels like they’re rushing us but I think they were trying to help and then they’re trying to help us but they’re still like speaking in French and we’ve been like we don’t speak French and then she just like picks one of the tiles up and moves
It like she she’s like trying to contribute and it’s too many cooks in the kitchen yeah she ruined the fun she she ruined the game she took the thing off the board which you cannot do is it like a turn thing like is are they
Waiting to do it or what like what the [ __ ] are they doing are you like in a room where you all have to work together like what is well it is a turn thing like also it was our turn no I know that’s what I’m saying like if it was
Like a room where you’re all supposed to work together like an escape room thing I wasn’t sure like the concept like that’d be one thing no it was not like that if she just got to [ __ ] wait if you’re trying to help you’re trying to help but like I know you gota wait
Though you gota wait [ __ ] I I don’t know after feel like the first hey we don’t speak that language what you expected to reach us with yeah you we were getting somewhere and then she just picks up the tile and took it off the board yeah you
Got to just [ __ ] off at that point you just gotta leave them alone disaster agree that’s lame that’s why I don’t think I have anything else we we ripped some good stories though that was fun that was a good one wrap it up we owed after the
Last last one last rless was bad you guys will enjoy this I was I was at work I didn’t want to talk happens feel like that [ __ ] gets in the way uh I do believe I am going out tonight so you’ll probably get the jayen brown dun contest thing another day all right
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Sam and Jack are back with another Boston Celtics podcast. In this one, they talk about the Celtics filming a new documentary about the team, the potential for a Jaylen Brown trade haul this summer, and Jayson Tatum’s potential MVP case. Plus, they talk about Danilo Gallinari, Klay Thompson, and Tyrese Haliburton. Let us know your thoughts, and as always, thanks for listening to How ‘Bout Them Celtics!
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0:00 Intro
1:55 New Celtics documentary
9:10 Jaylen Brown Dunk Contest
12:53 Should Jayson Tatum get more MVP love?
23:59 Celtics offseason trade rumors
31:45 Email check-in
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55:47 Klay Thompson moves to Warriors bench
57:53 Tyrese Haliburton has two voices
59:56 Howard Beck NBA trade rumors
01:08:37 The Rat List
01:20:30 Outro
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5 Comments
JB trade is my ass, bro. Stop talking shit
Absolutely no potential for a Jalen Brown trade. Holiday will opt out in June and become a free agent (probably going to Philadelphia who are about a $100 million below the cap) because Boston can't afford him and why should he take a pay cut. Even with the new contracts of Brown and the Tatum and White extensions the Celtics are still in pretty good financial shape per the new CBA going forward. Great pickups in Tillman and Springer for myriad reasons this year and going into the 24/25 season. Luke Kornet is a free agent, Sam Hauser team option at about $2M, Oshae Brissett player option at about $2.4M, and Springer $4M. If Tillman looks good Celtics and resign him (He's making S2M this year. Springer could also be a part of a trade package with a qualifying offer for 25/26 making his contract like an expiring contract.
Absolutely no way we're trading a top 15 player…
Jaylen isn’t apart of this team long term. He’s getting paid 300 million dollars to basically be Kyle Kuzma like he’s not even better than Pascal Siakam like let’s be real Jaylen is easily a trade piece
brown is a good player but does not fit with this team anymore with KP and D white playing great and perfectly fit very well with JT. Look at how Celtics played perfect offense against nets without brown b4 all-star. Cs won by 50 points compared the day before where they played the same team with brown, they only won by 8 points.