Why The Bucks Finally Look Like a Real Championship Contender | JJ Redick
Look on Monday’s episode I talked a lot about the Boston Celtics again we only get to talk about three things we talked about the Celtics the nuggets and what was our third thing oh the Toronto Raptors uh I want to talk about the Eastern Conference right now I said this
On Monday it feels like the Boston Celtics have separated themselves not just in the standings but with how they’re playing right now I do think there’s a number of teams that we can make an argument for uh or speculate could still win the Eastern Conference
Um so I want to get into all this I want to actually start with the Milwaukee Bucks they are five and seven since Doc Rivers took over but the defense is trending in the right direction uh they are 10th in defense uh since doc took over and they their offense has gone the
Other way they’re 21st in offense but here’s what I’m excited about they’re pick and roll defense they were a bottom 10 team in pick and roll under Adrien Griffin they are a top five team in pick and roll on defense and you know what it comes down to they are switching almost
25% more actually more than 25% more they’re switching on defense more in pick and roll which I find fascinating is it more the switching because I was going to ask about this just the half court D in general is it more the switching and less where they’re putting
Brooke well here’s what’s interesting so Brooke primarily still in a drop and all that stuff but here’s what’s interesting if you think about the philosophy around trying to create tourn overs right the ball and the numbers back this up the ball is going to get by the defender
More if you’re not creating those turnovers right their blowby percentage went up what happens on a blowby what happens in a pick and roll where there’s not pressure on the ball you end up in rotation and so if you’re switching and you’re staying on the ball and you’re playing a flatter defense there’s
There’s not as many opportunities to put two on the ball and then be in rotation think about all the time especially early on like I don’t want to blabber this point but they would they were they were 40 feet away from the basket putting two on the ball and pick and
Roll and that led to four on threes so it’s a simpler defense they’re switching with the right Personnel at a much higher rate I’m a firm believer I’m a firm believer that if this team defensively is good enough they don’t have to be great and they’ve been pretty
Damn good since doc took over if they’re good enough offensively Doc’s going to Doc’s going to figure out how to maximize this offense he’s he did that with the Clippers team he did that with James and Joelle he’s going to figure out how to maximize this offense at some
Point and you’re betting on you’re betting on two Hall of Famers of course Chris Middleton I mean these These are guys that are going to be able to to get there the numbers I wanted to shout out Nathan marzion who covers the bucks he did a big breakdown on on Brooke in
Particular today uh Milwaukee has a 102 defensive rating uh when Brook is playing since the firing um Lopez uh has a 43.7 field goal percentage against him in this window know it was 48% before he’s third for the season in opponent field goal percentage in the restricted
Area third in the entire NBA he’s having a great defensive year yeah it’s not reflected overall in the team numbers but Brooke by and large has been Brooke so I I want to ask about the Knicks as well because the Knicks are 23 and2 versus teams below 500 and they’re 12
And 21 against teams that are above 500 and I’m not saying the Knicks don’t have a shot to you know make a run in Eastern Conference or whatever it is but with a team like Milwaukee whenever they play a top team you see it they go and they
Smack Denver they smack Minnesota the other night whenever they play top team you see what they can be and so is there is there something with this team a little bit of like they’ve been there before and they’re taking too many games off because they know that they are uh
They know that they have the ability to turn it on once it gets to early May miday well here’s how I would look at it I think when they were 30 and 13 under Griffin it didn’t feel visually ually like they were a really good basketball
Team so despite the fact that they were winning it didn’t feel and look like a really good basketball team they win their first game uh uh with an interim coach then doc comes in their five and seven cents and like I’ll say this like Doc did take over in the middle of
Season he did take over in the middle of a road trip that’s hard to do it’s obviously hard to do um I think there was a little bit of an overreaction to the Bucks as title contenders you think back to uh opening week of the Season them and the Boston Celtics had
The best odds plus 180 both uh to win the Eastern Conference Celtics sit at plus 115 right now and the Bucks are at plus 700 which is the third best odds um I’m looking at the Bucks and I’m thinking to myself this is easily a team that can
Not only win the Eastern Conference but win an NBA championship like they have Giannis and they have Dame they have a guy who’s won aamp Championship as a coach Brooke has been great Chris Middleton has been great Malik B has shot the share of the ball they’re
Starting lineup for the season not under dock not under Griffin not under prty for the season has like a net rating of like 15 they’re a good team let me ask you about the Boston match particular we don’t want to get too much into it because you just covered it on
Monday but we’ve talked ad naazim about porzingis in the impact that he’s had with porzingis in particular and this defense this defense humming this defense humming at bud lels how do you think they would approach a matchup like porzingis in the playoffs because that’s obviously something they haven’t had to
Face before and it’s the we haven’t seen them play them since the new regime so it’s like where they’re going to where they’re going to sort of approach this differently with him did Cross Match um they put Giannis on porzingis switch across the board there and they’d put
Brook Lopez on Drew which a number of teams have done this season um you know the only thing the only thing with that um you know uh we talked about this other Drew R has had sort of a different experience game to game when he played for Milwaukee he was the primary ball
Handler uh he was a shot Creator he was a distributor but he had the ball in his hands this has been a different thing for him depending on matchups you know he’s he’s been a spacer and he shot the out of the ball this year but he’s
Been a spacer at times he’s over in the corner sometimes he’s a screener he’s not the primary guy right Joe Missoula and the Boston Celtics know this he’s the guy that a lot of teams are crossmatching the big on yeah uh so that they can switch with porzingis now the
Only thing with that I’ll say uh again is that when Chris dos porzingis gets a mismatch he’s having the most efficient post-up season in NBA history well in the tracking era of the NBA uh going back to 2013 2014 so you still run into some issues it’s it’s not like oh we’re
Going to switch across the board and all our issues against the Boston Celtics are solved there’s still a lot to be done but I think to to answer your question that’s how they would uh start that series I would assume is just crossmatching the net rating stuff with
Pringus is crazy the the three the the the porzingis Tatum white 15.2 porzingis brown white 14.9 like they’re good you know I doing the game the other day it’s like they they they can always have like two or three guys that are just all stars on
The floor like that’s how deep they are you know what I mean it’s like oh we’re gonna we’re going to take Brown and Tatum out okay we can still put alhor for Derek white porzingis Sam Hower Drew holiday it’s like it’s crazy it’s probably too early to have this
Conversation as it’s you know February but when you look back at the porzingis trade and you look at the fact that they got the only two first- round picks in that trade plus him is that gonna are we going to look back at that and be like
This is one of the more lopsided trades in recent NBA history there’s a good chance there’s a good chance I I don’t know the specifics of the Memphis pick situation and which year they are and how they’re protected I do know that Memphis was holding on to a lot of picks
And it was a three team deal right so there’s a lot of moving parts to that um so again uh I said this on the broadcast the other night I think Brad Stevens knows what he’s doing it’s maybe don’t TR Brad St he knows what he’s doing
In this clip, JJ Redick talks about Doc Rivers, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Damian Lillard and the improved play of the Milwaukee Bucks since the All Star Break.
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40 Comments
You didn't acknowledge that when you was trashing Doc name. Maybe you salty you didn't get the coaching job and Doc did.
Took nggas 1 week to change their minds LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bucks are 1st in defense since the Allstar break
I'm a bucks fan, and they Rock.
But i cant seem them beating Celtics…
Anyone know the clothing brand JJ is wearing? Never seen that logo of a dog before.
think the breaks should be pumped a bit. They still have the rest of the season of games to play but they did look legit against Minnesota
JJ didn't do anything wrong. He was saying what everyone is thinking. Let this man cook.
Doc making JJ look stupid lol
Well yeah, they are a good team. So were the clippers, 76ers… they all go to playoffs as contenders. It will all collapse when it matters most. Doc never disappoint to entertain us. 😂
Pat bev doesnt make difference. People who said that can STFU forever
JJ lost credibility trying to beef with pat bev who is an actual player
They beat Charlotte twice, A broken Bulls and a Embiidless 76ers and they're contenders all of the sudden i guess.
Historically, it’s star power that wins championships. The Celtics are a better team than the Bucks currently but in the back of my mind the whole season I’ve had the question “Is Jayson Tatum good enough to be the best player on a championship team”
He’s very borderline for me, but at the same time if there was ever a team that didn’t need a top 5 player…it’s a team like the Celtics. The playoffs will be fun
We don't need to hear you now we already knew this already don't knock on the door now
Let’s all be real here
Pat Bev has a huge impact into the bucks is turn around
Boston got the grizzlies first round pick last year number 25 and they get a warriors first rounder that is top 4 protected this year in 2024. Boston got away with another fleece. Add the wizards and grizzlies to the Nets and 76ers as team Boston has gotten in trades.
I see this as an overreaction. Bucks beat Minnesota, Bulls, twice the Hornets… Except Minnesota which suited them stylistically, everyone else beaten is either weak or meh
Celtics are not invincible ,can be beaten my man!
🤔 you know JJ backtracking that ESPN called and said you want more money 😂
We will see when they get to the playoffs how there supposed defense is gonna be.
One thing this year with Boston vs Bucks is in the past Celtics played small and forced Lopez off the court. Some playoff games vs Boston he played under 20 minutes. He was the key to Bucks drop D. With Porzingus Lopez will play more
Couple games vs the bulls and hornets does wonders for you
dame shooting like lowest % from the field is a sign of greatness I guess, especially since they traded a ton to get him.
last win giannis had to score 46 , while Dame scored 16 on 22% from the field.
JJ did nothing but rip on Doc, and yet Doc has completely turned around the Bucks season.
They are 8-7 now. This was recored a while back. They are even better now.
We all like to pile on the Wizards, but they have limited leverage when they went to trade Kristaps. He was probably going to opt out of his contract imminently and become a FA if he didn't get a destination he wanted. Other teams just weren't willing to take on the risk and the big short term contract. So getting something was much better than nothing.
There is only 4 teams who met Phil Jackson's criteria for a legitimate contender (40 wins before 20 losses) and only one of them is in the East.
The only good team they've beaten in their list 5 is the Timberwolves. They'll fold in the 2nd round.
The Gallo trade was the key
Still hoping to see Pat walk in on a Doc interview and kick him out his chair 🤣
Thank you JJ, everyone thinks we still have no defensive identity, and honestly i don't mind it. But despite your opinion on your old coach, u still gave props.💯 #Bucksin6
Let's see what happens when they meet up with the C's
Don't ever bet against Giannis
Bucks gone beat Boston with ease if they stay healthy
JJ please maybe trending in the right direction after playing an embiidless 76ers, hornets twice, bulls. 1 solid win vs wolves.
This team is just old and that's the problem on the defensive end. Lopez (35) Crowder (33) Dame (33) Middleton (32)
Giannis (29)
Beasley ( 27)
Connaughton (31)
Bobby portis. (29)
Pat Bev. (35)
Gallo. (35)
I just can't see where this teams defence improves forget about schemes, analytics oldest team in the NBA and there is absolutely no shot Doc can improve with his systems defensively.
You could pair steve Kerr, Eric spoelstra, Nick nurse, Popovich & Carlisle all on the on staff and defensively with this group not a lot you can do. It's an old group that doesn't move particularly well anymore. And is better on paper than it actually is. Giannis is just a megastar the only thing holding this paper thin team together
is still don't see the point of improving the defense, at the expense of ruining an offense. they were winning games at the end of the day. Other years they looked like a good team, but choked in the playoffs. Now with Doc, choking is definitely a certainty rather than a possibility.
We were quick to clown Jon Horst and the rest of his front office when they fired Griffin so early but Doc's addition made them better on defence eventually.
Anyone else tired of seeing the YouTube algorithm recommend a ton of videos titled “The Bucks are Frauds,” or “Doc Rivers Ruins the Bucks” only to now get the exact opposite from the same channels 😂
This was my friend’s wedding! I was in attendance 😂 😅
Keep the same energy JJ.