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Nikola Vucevic ejected, Pat Bev gets last laugh in Chicago Bulls’ loss to Bucks | CHGO Bulls



Nikola Vucevic ejected, Pat Bev gets last laugh in Chicago Bulls’ loss to Bucks | CHGO Bulls

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Big Dave bow bwl Sports our pal producer Joy bais behind the scenes he is at Joy batis will the go goly will join us later on from the UC to give us his thoughts and insight on tonight’s game thank you for joining us hit that like button if you’re watching on YouTube

Subscribe to cso Sports on YouTube channel if you aren’t already throw us your comments and questions about tonight’s game throw us some super chats if you’re feeling generous um not not an ideal way to kick off the weekend Dave the Bulls make us wait well not the

Bulls ESPN makes us wait until nine o’clock and then we watch that I I will say I was entertained because this was a chippy game and a as a bulls fan grasping at straws to find ways to get to the Finish Line This season you know looking at a bigger picture and trying

To find ways to be entertained by Bulls games Bulls bucks it just never disappoints does it like it it was a tight game at times it was a it was a big bucks lead at times you know the final margin I feel like pretty much reflected the level of competitiveness

Of this game but we we got some fireworks on the way there yeah yeah they definitely uh got into it I I enjoy seeing that um Bull’s actually showing some fight and a little bit of heart uh something that I believe myself and a lot of other fans were

Clamoring for in Prior years uh because felt like the Bulls were too cool just too nice and you know just letting dudes come in and do stuff like I remember when Grayson Allen came in and broke uh Alex kuso’s wrist and I just remember how pissed uh exp were like Stacy King

About how he didn’t do nobody came to his Aid and nothing was done about that uh to him but I do remember the next game at home I believe it was I can’t remember who did it I want to say either Tristan Thompson or or uh Vu put a body

On uh Grayson Allen and put him on the floor but it was just you know it was no big thing this one was different because this one I just really enjoyed it more because of I guess of who kicked it all off and that’s Ayo dumu who kind of

Kicked everything off um and when you first of all when you have bad officiating like that it causes that kind of thing uh when you’re not calling the game fairly and you’re not calling the game correctly and and you out there being trash with your officiating you

Cause this kind of stuff right here these things happen he’s sitting there watching demard de rozan get fouled by um Patrick Beverly uh who was playing tight defense on him but he was fouling him and they weren’t calling anything and IO just got fed up with it and put

Him on the floor and then Vu on the other play getting bodied by Bobby poris who was also reaching in didn’t get a call on that either he said oh you a foul I’ll show you a foul and he put one on uh the young man uh I don’t recall

His name but he put one on that young fell AJ Green yeah put one on that young NFL receiver but the short little white guy who has no business being in the NBA but apparently does yeah hey he came in hit a three and a couple of free throws

So shout out to him for that but yeah he put one on him showed him a foul got a flagrant two and was out of there Demar de rozan hitting Bobby poris after Bobby Portis standing there flexing on him on a rebound for some reason reason and

Dear got fed up with that so that cool guy stuff went out the window and I liked it I like the fact that that cool [ __ ] went out the window and you were like no y’all not coming in my house like this again and I just like that I

Didn’t expect to win I mean it’s the Bucks you know what I mean I didn’t expect to get a w but I did like the fireworks yeah yeah uh Jamar getting involved in those fireworks je rocks in the comments asking why did dear sit the

Entire fourth I I will give a little bit of credit to Billy donov we seen just ride dear and Kobe for huge minutes all season long we talked about it a little bit on our show yesterday when we were talking about whether or not the team can get into this rotation

A little bit coming into tonight’s game Kobe and dear were tied for the most minutes played in the NBA amongst all players and I think between the fact that dear was getting frustrated with the refs tonight he was getting into it with uh Bobby a little bit he got

Himself a tech uh I think a flagrant and maybe Billy Donovan saw this game was a little bit Out Of Reach when Demar checked out early in the fourth quarter and said you know what dear’s 34 he’s playing 18 billion minutes and I don’t need a hot-headed

Bobby poris to give Demar a concussion in the final minutes of this game so dear subbed out and didn’t come back and I had no problem with that no I I honestly didn’t have the issue at all with it he didn’t really have it uh that

Evening and you saw I mean he had a third quarter after starting off really slow believe he was five five and seven at one point in the first half CU I think he had like six or seven assists at halftime he just didn’t he wasn’t scoring he just didn’t score and you

Know that’s what he’s out there to do but he started scoring a little bit in in the third but it still was kind of clunky even though it was like five for seven uh he wasn’t getting to the free throw line wasn’t getting those calls um

I don’t know if did he take a free throw if he did it was a low amount U it feels like that he got yeah uh dear feels like that uh DeMar let’s see was two of two so he took one trip free throw line yeah so yeah I’m

Writing how I felt so yeah man he just didn’t have it and then when you see him ready to fight and then you see demard De Rose in you know yelling at the refs he just ain’t have it tonight and I thought that was a cool move by Billy

Actually sitting him down kind of reading the writing on the wall I actually liked how Billy coached tonight and I liked how he coached from the beginning and was recognizing stuff early and making adjustments and he played everybody like everybody got out there and got some tick at at not just

In garbage time but like during the game everybody got some tick and I appreciate uh seeing that um because that’s honestly I think the only way the Bulls are going to be winning any kind of games is to exhaust all possibilities and exhaust everything that you got and

You know we we previewed tonight’s game a little bit on yesterday’s show talking about th this current Bulls roster who’s available who’s not and how they had zero good options on defending Yannis and maybe if Caruso could come back in and play we we’ve seen Billy throw Caruso at some

Bigger more challenging you know uh matchups like that and Caruso did play tonight but like we also saw Terry Taylor get 12 minutes tonight you said yesterday Dave you’re like we might see some Terry Taylor but I also like the fact going back to our conversation about ptim yesterday the ptim played 16

Minutes off the bench tonight and Javon Carter played Four yeah yeah Billy is clearly and I think it’s fair for Bulls fans to say it’s delayed and and and overdue but at this point finally we are getting Billy saying you know what to hell with

It I’m going to throw this guy in there I’m GNA I’m going to throw that guy in there and it took being this short-handed with so many of his key rotation guys at least at the onset this season who he planned to be his key rotation guys being unavailable to him

But you got 13 minutes from Julian Phillips tonight 16 from batim Terry Taylor played 12 and that’s just Billy saying you know what let’s try some different [ __ ] and I like yeah it’s not like we you know I’m praising Billy for that I’m just saying it’s it’s a nice

Change of pace when I think Bulls fans have been frustrated by Billy’s inflexibility in certain ways yeah and and a lot of that also was because you know who’s gonna guard Giannis you know what I’m saying like you have to make those kind of decisions too um like

Let’s just address this now because I see a lot of people in the comments talking about it uh and we’ll get it out of the way a lot of people talking about the officiating you mentioned it a little bit Dave talking about Demar getting heated Gabriel the comments

Saying I swear the refs need to count how long Yannis takes his uh to shoot his free throws Andrew McCay also pointing out that bill Winnington was talking about giannis’s free throw you know seconds ticking off on the radio broadcast tonight shout out to our boy

CLM one of the newest ghio Die hards who said we played pretty poorly but some calls clearly didn’t help um Chason ashin saying I counted Giannis was over 12 seconds many times at the free throw line rig skeman saying simply put the Bulls lost the refs lost

Control yeah uh also shout out to Connor who said you guys are still doing a post game LMAO respect the grind but if y all wanted to pull a voo tonight we’d understand no we are here we are not getting ejected on purpose even though it’s Friday night at 12:02 a central

Time we are here for y’all always I’m gonna talk I’m gonna talk to somebody after the game all right my mom is tired of hearing me talk to her about this stuff so might as well talk to y’all in mat I was honestly looking forward to to

This post game after watching that game tonight because it was an entertaining game about the refs the Giannis free throw thing whatever it’s it’s been ongoing sometimes they will call him for it whatever the chippiness I think needs to be addressed a little bit more because I mean the

Bulls fans have a legitimate grievance about how this game was officiated tonight I think yes to a certain point because when you look at it the Bulls were called for 21 fouls tonight and the Bucks were called for 18 so that’s not a huge disparity in number of fouls called

Either direction the Bulls did get two text called and two flagrance called on them I think that more points to the Bulls losing the mental battle against the Bucks tonight getting frustrated and letting Bobby poris or or Pat Bev or whoever it may be getting under their

Skin uh Vu clearly lost the mental battle tonight the way he you know lashed out like that but even though it was only 21 to 18 fouls and that’s not a huge difference the Bucks took 32 free throws to the bull 16 so that’s like wow

All almost all of the Bucks fouls were shooting fouls and and the Bulls weren’t how do you get that small of a disparity in fouls called but that big they doubled them up in free throw attempts the Bulls were able to stick around for a little while because the Bucks didn’t

Shoot well that well from the free throw line but to me here’s the thing it’s a nationally televised game the Bulls don’t get many of those it doesn’t matter from my point of view that the Bulls are the team playing on their home floor you would not even knew the Bulls

Existed if you watched the ESPN broadcast tonight which I did because I was curious I did too I wanted to see what the ESPN heads were talking about in the game tonight and guess what the headline was Giannis subheadline Doc Rivers and the new look bucks what’s

Going on with them they spent the entire half show talking about it yes they interviewed Billy between the third and fourth quarters just like they interviewed doc between the first and second quarters in the sideline reporting but this National broadcast was all about the Bucks one of the top

Seeds in the East the Bulls were the after thought and that is the Bulls lot in life right now the Bulls aren’t the team getting calls on a nationally televised game even if they’re on their home floor they’re not does it suck did it seem like the Bulls got the short end

Of the stick with the officiating tonight absolutely and absolutely but they have done that to themselves by being where they are which is an NBA afterthought you want to get some more respect from NBA officials in a nationally televised NBA game be a significant NBA team like the Bucks

Are yeah I just want you to get the call right and I want you to avoid uh chaos like you saw happen because I called as soon as you saw that happen on especially the V when I was like oh he’s about to get kicked out the game you saw

It like you have to avoid that [ __ ] and and I don’t care about them getting the calls you’re right everything you said is right um but for me it’s more like no you you have to do your job to avoid the chaos you avoid Ayo dumu having to lay

Out Patrick Beverly that ain’t got [ __ ] to do with nashley telev that’s just you sucking at your job right there you let you letting V get bodied up like that rtin that’s just you sucking and guys are going to retaliate because you’re not doing your job now them having more

Free throw I expected Giannis to be at the free throw line living there that’s Giannis yes you’re gonna get calls I didn’t expect them to outwin the battle or anything like that but I did expect it to be somewhat fair and you keeping the piece to where guys are not about to

Lose their minds like Demar de R Ro is probably the one of the coolest dudes like the head coolest level-headed guys you’ll see on the floor and he’ll complain to the refs sure and you’ve seen him get attacked but when he starts swinging on people you doing then it’s

Your fault that’s how I feel it’s your fault he’s not just going to do that to be doing that now there wasn’t nothing to call on that play because Bobby Porter just flexed and he and he felt he got fouled and he didn’t I I agree with

The ref on that he didn’t get fouled but he failed he did he was just more mad at Bobby flexing on him you know what I mean and trying to like yeah you little fella like that and everything the refs didn’t call built up in him and he got

Pissed and he took a swipe at Bobby Portis on that one and that’s how that went you saw Drummond getting pissed uh Drummond draws fouls you know I mean if anybody draws fouls it’s Andre Drummond so the fact he wasn’t really getting those calls either that was a little

Little surprising too but yeah yes the Bucks are gonna get more calls than you they’re a better team than you yes everything Matt said is right I just you have to keep that fairness from it getting chaotic and getting out of control because guys are going to take

That in their own hands and my point is that when iio dumu is laying cats out you’re doing something wrong it’s on you uh Chason Ashley in the comments said bottom line uh Bulls cut the lead to eight points Vu cannot be dumb enough to get thrown out we can’t afford to

Leave anyone especially another starter and and it’s not like Vu was doing anything great for the Bulls tonight like he did have a near double double his classic I mean this is basically been his average as a bull 17- N I think his career average with the bulls is

17-1 but I mean he was he was a team worse minus 19 when he was on the floor tonight and when he didn’t get that call against Bobby when he was banging with Bobby in the post and you saw him take out his mouth guard and yell a bunch of

[ __ ] to that ref run him back on defense and then you just knew you’re like it’s like you know so instead of hitting that guy you headbutt Bob Barker like V you’re like okay well this this is gonna happen and V is getting his frustration

Out which is why I said a moment ago like I’m fine with the fact that Billy said hey dear come sit down come sit down because dear was on the verge of losing it too yeah um somebody in the comments was wondering about why it is

That Vu and dear like the Vets are uh you know losing their cool and um can you find that one Joe because it was an interesting point about how like why is it that the young guys on this Bulls team have to be the ones telling the Vets to maintain their composure gotta

Keep our composure because you know we saw Vu you know whipping the the Ben chair with his towel the other night he gets tossed tonight on a flag 2 Jamar having a tough time and we’ve seen several times whether it’s IO whether it’s Kobe white some of the younger guys

On this team saying hey hey take a breath it’s okay yeah this this Bucks team clearly this core of Bulls players who have been teammates for a few years now they do not like Milwaukee they don’t it’s like not it’s not a true rivalry because they’re kicking our ass you got to win

Kicking our ass for years is not a rivalry the way that I feel Bears Packers is not a rivalry but they this Bull’s core of players who have been playing the Bucks together for a few years now clearly don’t like them and then pat pat Bev was just a little

Cherry on top of that Sunday of annoyance and getting under your skin and picking you and prodding you and that the Bulls just looked mentally weak tonight they did I I yeah you’re right what is I don’t know about the M leag week part uh

But I I mean you could back it up with what you saw Vu do you know what I mean you can back it up with what I just talked about with Demar for sure uh but more of that I do put on officiating because the Bulls are not a team to be

Retaliating and ready to fight dudes like that and that’s just from years not just this year that’s just from years of watching this Bulls team put together that that’s first time I’ve seen him act like that like I have not seen them do that that is the very first time so

Caruso was pissed at get called Caruso got a tech like you know what I mean like those like stuff wasn’t going right you know I mean when it was coming to those calls man Caruso’s Tech seemed really soft like you yeah very and quick yeah it was like yeah he he was airing

His grievances after a foul call that he thought was a questionable foul call and the ref was immediately like yeah I do agree with the overall Vibe of NBA fans that this season the last couple Seasons NBA officials have gotten really in their feelings and are really quick to

Blow whistles and make things personal with the these players when it’s like hey stop making the game about you we didn’t come here to watch number 87 in gray and black stripes like [ __ ] shut up um let’s take our first break there we’ll come back and uh break down more

Of tonight’s game still plenty to get to we got to talk about what we saw from Kobe tonight from IO tonight from the bench tonight people in the comments asking about batim again uh who had a solid game we will get to as many of

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Um Dave what what did you think about Kobe White’s game tonight it was nice to see him knock down a couple of Threes we know he’s been struggling from behind the arc uh and just struggling with his shot in general coming out of the All-Star break he he uh little bit of a

Slow start he did finish with 22 points tonight on a respectable seven of4 two of five he also got to the free throw line six of six at the charity stripe I thought it was sort of a a a quiet game for Kobe where it seemed like it was

Mostly Demar Distributing in the first half and and then you know at at no I was waiting in the second half for the Kobe white takeover moment or at least Kobe white does his part to try to give the Bulls a fighting chance to steal this game somehow moment it seemed like

It never came it just seem like Kobe was just sort of treading through this one did did you kind of observe it the same way yeah I did um I didn’t think he had it again tonight like that I still thought uh like you said treading plotting you know however you want to

Say it uh in the mud uh in the muck in the Meer you know all those kind of things um one of those hard 22s uh that’s what it looked like yeah it looked nice on paper and stuff but I thought it was like a hard 22 for him uh

Most of that coming in that fourth quarter when the game was pretty much wrapped up I believe he had 13 uh going into that fourth quarter um but I mean he’s hard to complain about 22 but I just didn’t think like he was comfortable out there like he didn’t

Feel the same um when he had that one-on-one with Giannis and Giannis ripped him up now granted Giannis is defensive player of the year pretty much every year even if he doesn’t win he’s defensive player of the year um but he just didn’t seem like he had those handles tonight like that that

Shiftiness getting to the bucket didn’t show up until the fourth quarter I thought they did honestly a solid job against them um couldn’t hit his shots like that you know but this is I think we talked about this I still think it’s fatigue I still think it’s those things

Catching up with him I hope he gets a fourth quarter off like Demar did um and get some rest um what you talking about Co Kobe did get a rest tonight he only played 38 minutes oh man man um I did Honestly though like seeing him play with the the younger

Guys because I feel like I feel like you unlock a different kind of Kobe uh when you playing with dudes who can match his kind of speed and his kind of agility like that like it was certain passes he would I saw him making to like Julian

Phillips and IO that he wouldn’t make to Demar or to Caruso so I I like watching him play with those young guys I I’d like to see more of that uh we should be seeing more of that cuz because those guys should have been gone and been

Traded but that’s a different story um but yeah man it was just a plotting kind of game for him uh I like he ended up with 22 and he kept fighting through it I liked how how sad he looked when V made that foul because he knew that that was the

Game and you if you go back and watch it you’ll see him put his hands right on his shoulder and just put his head down and just he knew he knew it was like oh man this is a rap like like why did he

That this is a rap right here for us so yeah Kobe’s always involved in these games man but yeah just tired Matt like honestly that’s what I kind of just chalk it up to and they did mention him for most improved player I will say that they definitely mentioned him for most

Improved player a couple of times they they threw that out there on the broadcast nice to see Kobe getting at least a little bit of national uh recognition and respect but uh speaking of that uh that tiredness Brandon in the comments said I don’t know about y’all

But if we’re look at big picture I’d sit Kobe and Demar against the Kings it’s three days of rest before the Jazz heavy minutes every night is how major injuries start uh Rob pointing out that Kobe took another tough fall tonight and hopes okay yeah Brian ramama saying too

Many minutes for Kobe put the young guys in more like ba team and Phillips um AK saying Kobe’s worn out tired legs mental fatigue lead support leads to poort decisions and turnovers Kobe needs another week off his minutes are not sustainable Kobe did only have two turnovers tonight I I don’t think that

That was a problem we’ve seen Kobe have bad turnover nights tonight was not one of those no um as to uh Brandon’s idea about resting Kobe and dear and just not playing them against the Kings on Monday not gonna happen not gonna happen unless one of them pops up on the injury report

Between now and Monday afternoon they’re playing the Bulls are fighting for their play in life and and neither Kobe or Demar is the type of player to say I need a night off coach make up something put it on the injury report you know I I

Guess if you’re Demar you could just say rest because he’s old but sure you know Kobe has been dealing with a couple of different nagging injuries he’s been fighting an ankle among other things they could if they wanted to find a way to give Kobe and or dear a night off but

They’re not going to no I think it’s more about the total allotment of minutes and whether or not that’s sustainable um as whoever that was who pointed out like don’t think it’s sustainable and I agree the Bulls are about to go on this West Coast Road Trip

Uh and and place and and face some pretty daunting Western Conference opponents and they’re Kobe looks gassed yeah he can say everything he wants to say about how he’s not gassed and he’s just not knocking down his shot it good for him for putting on a brave face because I

Feel like that’s what Bulls fans want to see from a young Rising maybe star that this team is going to continue building around in the next phase of this team when they get you know turn this roster over and dear’s gone and V is gone and

Zach is gone that’s a great way to approach it and I know that Bulls fans appreciate and respect that but there’s no denying that he is Gass right now flat out Gast yeah that’s what it is it’s honestly that simple and he has to he’s

Not going to be the one like you said man to be like Tak me out the game coach like I need Billy to have a better better eyes out there you know when it comes to that and to Billy’s credit I know it’s hard for him because he’s like

Fine I’ll take him out who do I put in like what what do I put in at that position at point guard like Jaylen you I mean uh Javon like what do you want me to do like and I’m telling him you still hey man move shift IO over shift Caruso

Over whoever you got to shift over to those positions it’s the reason you got like four guards on your team you got got to get this young man some rest man because especially if you’re going to be making this run at this play you’re going to need him down the stretch in

These last few games because it’s gonna come down to that indeed uh Jake Reynolds in the comments saying I’m not ready to call Kobe a star he’s not consistent or dynamic enough he’s an improved player not an All-Star well that’s just a fact he’s not an All-Star

He has yet to make an All-Star team correct I said that he is a rising star who the team and the fans hope that they can possibly build with and build around in years to come um people in the comments saying along with Kobe being exhausted and getting some of the

Younger guys of minutes baam’s name is being thrown out there a lot uh AK saying Billy needs to get ptim open shots Carter is trash again Carter played Four Minutes tonight buttin played 16 yeah yay yay it’s crazy I did not think I would be saying that when we

Were sitting you know at Summerfest last October talking about how excited we were to have Javon Carter join this squad but like to me right now it’s a no-brainer it’s like hey sorry Javon let’s revisit things in May and figure out if we’re going to keep you next

Season or find you a new home but for the final 22 games after tonight I think me and every other Bulls fan out there wants to see more minutes from freaking odor ala team who by the way tonight also had himself a solid game Off the Bench knocked down a of

Threes did some more work on the glass played some more respectable defense what what more can you ask from the guy Dave I I want to you know mean I want to see batim and Funk out there so I want to see them both get get some tick

Because you need three I’m not on the funk train yet why not like why you on the batine trade like you saw him play one thing at a time Dave one thing why not no dude all of it I you need shooting bad that dude just went five

And 10 in his last game from the three-point line let this man shoot did he really yes he did really five of 10 he had 19 points this dude in throw him in man immediately pivoting there you need shooting that’s all I know is you need shooting bad

Desperately you need it so why not I don’t see the reason why now what you what you going for the pl you going for the six come on what are we doing out here like dude there’s six games behind the six seed and they’re going to stay

There if they don’t put him like come on speak speaking of desperately needing shoo Jeff Crook in the comments said I wonder why Dal only got garbage minutes tonight well what’s up Joe can I yeah we see the goat I see the goats ready I see I we I was leading to it

I that’s why the goat the goat joining us on the go talk hotline SAR guy will and go goly follow him for all his Bulls reporting and updates willor got Le uh goat let’s start with the drama uh did we hear from Vu after this game after getting ejected did we

Hear from dear after this game after he got into a little bit of a scrape with Bobby poris what what was the explanation from these players after a pretty chippy game against their their Central division rival bcks first of all I just want to say that that was pretty

Incredible stuff from Joey right there who instead of just putting me on the screen he put himself on the screen so that then he could play the goat uh animation which you just you have to love it um to I think it was was just a bunch of frustration up and down the

Roster up and down the game that ultimately boiled over and you know I it’s interesting because like we see those kind of fiery moments from vuj and from dear kuso’s technical was like not really an emotional thing I think he just kind of like I guess it was he like

Reacted poorly to a call um but I don’t know you just you don’t see this team lose its composure like that um and they really just lost their composure I mean it was dear and V both spoke after the game Billy spoke after the game about it

And said that he had something to say wouldn’t say what it was but he had something to say to the officials um from the very beginning of the game the way that they were calling it um I was sitting next to Julia Poe from Chicago Tribune and she was like in the middle

Of tweeting I don’t know who’s going to get a technical in this fourth quarter but somebody’s going to because of just like the way that it was being officiated and then like two seconds later there was a attack I think it was the Demar thing that that um happened

First but just a ton of emotions kind of boiling over I think they felt really frustrated they were defending and getting fouls and felt like they weren’t really being overly physical and then on the other end they were not getting the same calls that they felt like they were

Giving up on defense so I think there’s just a lot of frustration and then you know Bobby and and uh Pat Bev start chirping and start kind of playing a little bit more physical their hand checking and all that stuff and it just kind of boiled over dear started over

Six I think that frustrated him V you know I thought he started the game pretty well and and um ended up kind of missing some shots pretty pretty badly there in the third quarter and that I think maybe started uh to get him frustrated but the play with v was kind

Of interesting because he just I mean he was like boxing out Bobby on one end and then he came down on the other end and tried to post him up and just like tried to back him down tried to back him down and then couldn’t get any separation

Couldn’t get him into the goal at all and so he just did his little turnaround hook shot and missed and just came down the other end and just like laid AJ Green out he’s he apologized after he said it was a dangerous play um and that

He was going to go you know apologize to AJ in the other locker room but just kind of a strange overall atmosphere for you know these guys are all emotional they’re all competitors but you don’t really see them really boil over like that and so it’s just kind of an

Interesting uh meltdown so to speak oh will would did Billy speak on uh Demar D rozan and why he wasn’t in in that fourth quarter he just said the I mean he pulled him uh when they were down 25 with seven minutes too he said the workload that dear’s had this year

That’s just such an uphill climb and you know let’s try to get some of these young guys in they can run up and down and see if they can cut into it but I think he just with the way that Tomar was playing with the frustration level

And with the score at that point in the game he just felt like that was enough well I’m we touched on it a little bit I’m not blaming this game and this loss on the refs uh it did seem a little bit one-sided Dave and I

Discussed why that might be but we we have seen a lot more of NBA coaches speaking out after games where they feel like their team got the short end of the stick offici wise I’m curious if Billy had any kind of commentary on tonight’s game given the the number of times

Things got heated and the fact that the Bulls were doubled up by the bucks on free throw attempts tonight yeah I think um you know I mentioned before like Billy said that he told the ref something he didn’t say exactly what it was but he just felt like you know

There’s times where everybody feels like they’re not getting the calls that they want um but they were I don’t remember the exact number it was like six free throws to zero at the end of the first quarter or something like that in favor of the bucks and you know Kobe ended up

Getting like three or four straight fouls at the start of the second quarter to put the Bulls in the bonus so it did kind of even out but it just didn’t really feel like it did um I guess to the players and look when you’re guarding Giannis he’s gonna get fouls

He’s a super duper Star he goes to the basket hard and he finishes and so anytime there’s contact there the refs protect him but at the same time like he is drawing a lot of contact and I think for dear who’s a guy that you know likes

To get guys to bite on pump fakes he’s not necessarily like crashing into people on his way to the basket he more trying to like finesse them and get them to jump and he’s being guarded by Giannis he’s being guarded by Bobby poris and Brook Lopez and these guys

That are seven feet tall and so they’re not really giving up the the pump FES in that situation and then you’ve got Patrick Beverly who’s hounding you and I thought he kind of got away with a couple fouls on the perimeter area after the game we talked to Pat B for a second

He said he was surprised that they put dear at the perimeter against him as opposed to the post where he felt like he had a little bit of an advantage so um I think it was like some Ticky Tac stuff that maybe didn’t go their way and you know they’re playing against Giannis

And he’s getting all these foul calls because he’s Giannis to me it didn’t feel like it was like egregious um I can understand why the players would feel that way especially just like the the physicality that Giannis plays with going at you um and so I can definitely

Understand it um but it was just like from the start of the game I think they felt like they were kind of at a disadvantage and it just blowed over for three four different people well would did was you get a chance to speak to

Anybody I was like IO because we were a little surprised that basically the one person who kicked all that off was IO um when you got to time for guys getting physical you know and retaliating and things like that did were any other players uh speaking about that no we

Just spoke to uh I mean it’s it’s 12:30 here so that people are trying to get home but uh we spoke to uh Vu waited for us graciously um he had been like showered and everything so he could have left like before the game ended but he

Waited for the media I thought that was uh very nice of him and respectable and then we talked to Demar briefly and then Patrick Beverly for two seconds before he uh ran out of the scrum there so didn’t really hear from much else but I think that there was just like a general

Sentiment of like we lost our composure and we know we can’t let that happen um but we also kind of felt like we were at the short end of it with refereeing and Billy also made a point to say like I know everybody feels that way all the

Time so there’s not like any uniqueness to us feeling that way but they felt that way it was competitive at certain stretch tonight though wasn’t it will we’ll always have that uh it is a late night we will let you get out of here uh and get home thank you for joining us

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On the pizzazz and it will be perfectly toasted and the and the cheese will be perfectly melted and it is amazing I promise you we have to move on because I’m getting aroused um Dave can we can we talk about Pat B for a sec I I feel

Like we covered the major bases of what happened in the game tonight yeah I I want to get your take on Pat Bev because okay here’s mine I was laughing I saw a lot of bulls fans in my Twitter feed tonight as that game was happening and

That especially as Pat Bev was doing more and more Pat Bev things in the second half he went on like a oneman 10 run at one point there in the fourth quarter he gave Julian Phillips my sweet special boy the too small after a little like floater hway Jumper in the lane it

Broke my heart a little bit uh he knocked down some threes and was shouting at the Bulls bench he was shouting up in the stands at Bulls fans saying this is my city classic Pat Bev stuff yeah I then thought to myself how funny is it that

This dude was on his podcast at the beginning of last off season saying hey man I love Chicago I love the Bulls it means everything to me that I’ve gotten a chance to put a bull Jersey on in my career I want to stay here also I want $15 million

Annually and you and me and goat and everybody else laughed at that even if the Bulls could afford to pay Pat B 15 mil annually on a new contract which they couldn’t they wouldn’t because he he ain’t worth that he is you know you know what he is worth the oneyear $3

Million deal that the Sixers signed him to last fall and then they traded him yes came onto the Bulls court tonight in a Bucks jersey and was clowning and too Smalling and talking his [ __ ] and as much as that probably irked some Bulls fans thinking like really Pat like we we

Were like this for that little stretch run of last season what happened what where’s the love and Pat say well the love is the Bulls didn’t want to pay me I was laughing my ass off about all of it because he wanted 15 mil he thought

He was worth that he got a fifth of that and then got traded midseason yeah I think that makes what 27 or 28 NBA teams now that Pat Bev has played for because everyone loves him in their locker room such a great locker room guy but the

Fact is that the biggest joke of all is on the Bulls because we said hey Pat that was a nice little stretch last season Thanks for the Memories Chicago guy through and through we’re not going to pay you go away and then he comes in a Bucks jersey and makes the polls look

Stupid and I I was just wildly entertained by all of it yeah I was definitely uh I laughed for sure um because Pat because for me it was like yeah all right do like that’s why I laughed I was like yeah great you scored 14 wonderful you know awesome cool you

Know what I mean cool cool story I was like wonderful it’s nice um and and when you do that of course you’ve earned the right to talk your talk your crap you know you saw him talking his crap it’s my city you know like you said J he hit

Him with a two small on a foul that’s when you know he was feeling good about himself you know what I mean he hit him with that bro so you know my man was feeling really good about himself and I wasn’t mad at him I was like he’s

Feeling good do like he’s feeling really good and he’s having one of those games Pat always has one of those games when gets to your team and he had one of those games here do you remember the Lakers game when Pat B was having it and

And he did what to the Lakers exactly what he just saw him do to the Bulls like this is that’s what he does man that’s how he remains in the league um I like the fact that even even when he got hit you know it don’t mean nothing to

Him he like it’s just basketball because he understands he’s an irritant and he understands when he irritates somebody’s going to scratch you know what I mean and when somebody scratches or somebody swats at a mosquito they don’t stop coming at you they’re coming back you know what I’m saying like they’ll be

Back they understand that so I I’ve always like Pat Bev I still will always like Pat Bev but yeah it made me laugh man like for sure I was definitely laughing because I’m like oh look at Pat having a game out here yeah I was just

Like yeah this game’s over when I saw him doing that I’m like yeah this is a rap like when he’s cooking yeah yeah this is a rap for him man so I mean you know good for him he did his thing uh our guy Clem say pev forever the 14 and

N guy he did score 14 points tonight Rob saying that’s P Bev he’s always going to talk to smack he’s playing for playoff teams someone wants him meanwhile the Bulls can’t attract free agents no no lies detected in that statement Rob Jeff Rock saying pev go to

Pev I love how everyone was just like P go to pev and everyone knows EXA yeah uh if anyone out there is taking it personally you are too easily triggered I agree if you’re who was bothered by the behavior of Patrick Beverly on that game on that Court during that game tonight I

What are you doing reevaluate your mental health because I was s there laughing at it um fried rice saying easy to laugh when you’re up I do think that that is a little detail worth pointing out though pad Bev went off and started talking his [ __ ] in the fourth quarter of a game

That was over yeah like it’s not like P Bev was the reason that they were in control of this game from start to finish no Giannis put up like a near 50 point near triple double like yeah oh yeah but Pat Bev loves coming in and taking whatever slice of the pie of

Credit that he can when his team wins but dude but to his Pat be be talking when they down 20 Pat be would talk to you when it’s a twoo game he don’t care Like Pat B is always gonna be running his mouth the MJ with the baseball bat

You know hunkered in locker yeah with a stogy talking [ __ ] when it’s nothing nothing or when you’re down yeah you remember Matt when we were at the Minneapolis game and Demar was cooking his ass and he hit him and dear hit him with the two small that was a close game

You know mean they went in the overtime like he was still talking though like he’s Pat Bev like is Pat Bev’s gonna Pat Bev like you said I don’t know why that’s not a t-shirt yet that he ain’t just done that but that is a t-shirt Pat

B is gonna Pat B man that’s what he do okay so Jake rold in the comments said LOL the Bulls are lacking three-point Shooters not two idiots who never shut up and I I thought for he was talking about us Dave but then I up and saw that

Our guy uh flip side said pev and Bobby porz are the type of dogs the Bulls are lacking bunch of nice guys on our Squad and so I assume that Jake Reynolds was referring to pep EV and poris when saying two idiots who never shut up I

Mean we are also who never shut up but um I I I get that there is that little bit of like man this bull Team uh how does c phrase it a bunch of choir boys right yes there are no hard-headed go win the mental battle kind of players on this

Team and if there are or at least a young win the mental batter mental battle player in the making maybe D Terry they’re not getting minutes um I do think that this Bulls team is soft and I do think that more often than not in the last few years that has been a

Contributing factor to the Bucks getting the better of them in more games than not do I do I wish that we still had pad Bev no I mean he’s he’s entertainment value but that dude honestly I more regret letting Bobby out the door I saw somebody in my Twitter feed today saying

Like you know it’s why is Bobby you know acting so tough like he’s the one who turned down the extension offer that the Bulls gave him he did and that is true he did turn down that extension offer you know similarly to the way that the Jimmy thing worked out and then Jimmy

Bet on himself and in the final year of that contract turned himself into a freaking Allstar um and Bobby got traded in the middle of that final year of his rookie deal and that was the difference um but you see what Bobby has done for that Bucks team you see the way that

They won a championship and he was a vital piece of that championship team a few years ago and you see that the way that the city of Milwaukee and Bucks fans have embraced Bobby poris like when he and dear got into a scrape tonight I was sitting there saying like I love

Dear I got mad love and respect for dear but also I still have a soft spot in my heart for Bobby poris because I love everything about that dude and I don’t know who to root for if they throw down their freaking fists right now oh I I do

It was gonna be Demar frosen for me like I was definitely cuz Bobby ain’t got no love for you no more you know what I mean at all there’s no no No Love in his heart anymore for Chicago dog like for real he might love the city in the

Dining area but he ain’t got no love for the Chicago pools dog it ain’t there it ain’t there so if it ain’t there for him it ain’t there for me bro and and it should be that way I’m okay with it being that way I that’s true I I have a

Special little extra con connection sure sure I know right right Bobby and I got to hang one time and and and he was a very very kind sweet polite young man um having a nice chat with my mom my mom said Bobby poris such a polite young man

So hey if you if you get the thumbs up from Sarah peek you’re good in my book for the rest of time um he put down Nico so he cool with me that too that too I saw somebody in the comments earlier making a joke about

Nico mitic PTSD like yeah I I think Bobby got too too big of a bad rap about that for a long time and I think that well hey he’s still here and he’s still a very important player on a very good NBA team agreed where’s Nico not

Here punched out of the country that’s what he got uh let’s get out of there let’s call it now it is almost 1:00 am. wait hold on we got super chats man we got a couple super chats we got I I apologize my goodness superat where is

My head my head is in Bobby Porto’s lap uh as as a baby napping safely not in a romantic way uh AK with a 999 super chat saying NBA is a business bucks and Giannis sell Celtics bucks playoff sells the Bulls are marketed as a make no

Moves stuck a mediocrity team it’s a business these Bulls are not marketable uh absolutely I’m guessing that one back to our conversation earlier about the the way the game was called the way the broadcast was called tonight the Bucks are an in team and the Bulls are not uh

AKA with another 999 Super Chat bless your heart AKA saying the Bulls were making run in the third momentum was shifting then Pat Bev and Bobby poris head games happened the Bulls lost their composure need to be better V IO goons ship was nice I enjoyed io’s goons bro I

Did I really respected it I really did that I mean I I was wavering between watching the ESPN broadcast and I did notice that NBC Sports Chicago had iio miked up tonight and I was oh he did the the the Bulls talk uh Twitter account and Shout to some of our old friends

Over there at NBC uh had a couple of videos that they clipped and put up on their Twitter account where you could hear IO miked up for a few things uh he told Caruso he loved him after Caruso saved his ass on a defensive rotation which I thought was very endearing um

But yeah I I still I still ended up pivoting towards the ESPN broadcast because I wanted to see what what the Bulls were going to be you know depicted as in this big matchup against one of the top teams in the league like mine sir I had the same exact thought I am

Not surprised by the answer we got at all at all uh thank you everybody for hanging out with us so late uh on a Friday night hope you all have a great weekend um Bulls are off until Monday we are off until Monday in the meantime follow our guy the goat willor goly

Breed his stuff all chg.com is where you can find his thoughts on all things Bulls all of his coverage follow our pal producer Joey spathis is at Joey’s bth is fim to 1.2k uh big day B bawl Sports Bulls we are chuor bulls hit the like love you

Too Jake Reynolds you’re welcome Jeff Crook Brandon Dave everybody here thanks for hanging out shout out to you rob antto we uh we will talk to you Monday uh subscribe to cso Sports we’re trying to climb to 50K before our two-year anniversary coming up right there right

There right there Dave you be good my friend Joey you be good my friend Bulls Nation we will talk to you on Monday have a great weekend see be good peace

The Chicago Bulls fell to the Milwaukee Bucks in Chicago on Friday night.

The Bulls fought to keep it close but failed to contain Giannis Antetekounmpo, who scored 44 points and pulled down 15 rebounds. The story of the game came late in the game as formers Bull Patrick Beverley and Bobby Portis got under the Bulls’ skin, drawing flagrant fouls from DeMar DeRozan and Nikola Vucevic. Vucevic was ejected.

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8 Comments

  1. Nah Matt, idc if it's the Pistons instead of the Bulls. A FOUL IS A FOUL! Respect my ass, the refs need to do their fucking job

  2. Chicago bulls fans ( and players ) cry too much . Your front office hasn't done their job . Cry about that .

  3. Matt’s take on the refs is just stupid. So only good teams should get calls? That kind of defeats the whole purpose of the game. Put the beer down, you’re drunk😂😂

  4. Common guys, what's going on with ya'll? You never worked for a Company that doesn't want to get better? It's not on the Front Office or the Coaches. Bulls Franchise as Company will cut you down if you try to improve & get better. As Player etc. it will frustrate you at some point after years if trying to at least do the best out of the situation with owners that don't want you to be better at all. You can only hope the Youth of Bulls invest in their own each for themselves. From the Bulls Company will come nothing. Not enough good shooting coaches etc. Players need to invest their own money in personal coaches etc. You also not gonna get any help by a trade or whatsoever.
    Bulls Merch is selling like heck worldwide because of the Nostalgia & the seats are filled.
    Billy probably is just allowed to take the leash of the guys & male the right calls when it gets worse & worse. Then the Bulls / Coaches are allowed to do their work.

    It's sad, sounds probably weird but common, it is what it is. Pure Business with no intend to win something or get better or whatsoever. Of course it's frustrating those that live & play to win & want to lead their Team to become better, to achieve something, to left a legacy behind etc. It will kill your mindset as a Hooper, no matter how headstrong you are.
    Billy etc. ain't the reason Zach wants out. Can't blame anyone that wants out of this situation.

  5. The truth be told the Bucks aren’t going anywhere if YanYan has to score 46 while your star D.Lillard scores 16. Another reason they lost was because our unable to adjust on the fly coach allowed one guy to beat you with practically no help from D.Lillard! What should not have happened is Drummond not using all of his fouls on YanYan. Everybody and they momma knows that you don’t let one guy beat you. That’s why I wish someone would ask the players who play for him when he had Westbrooks,Durant and Harden why couldn’t they win a Championship?!

  6. AJ Green is one of the purest shooters out there right now. That's why he's in the NBA

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