Kings Begin the Weekend Against Minnesota – March 1: The Insiders D-Lo & KC

Kings Begin the Weekend Against Minnesota – March 1: The Insiders D-Lo & KC

Good morning JY H Hello everybody good morning you all everybody uh Katrina gets the belt today good job Katrina do you know what that song is the you all everybody song no you all everybody nope have you ever watched a TV show Lost nope okay so lost was a phenomenon right I remember I remember

That I remember the cultural significance I just never got into it Charlie the is is a was in a band and that was their song so every time someone goes were you in a band or you know he would say I was in a band maybe you heard and he would sing that

Line which was spectacular you know you know you’ve heard our music you know you all everybody yeah any anyway hello everybody cat my Jiffy Lube sports updates on the eagle and 985 one time I was listening to 969 and then switched to 985 and they played

Back to back like it’s Kyle back to back you’re welcome that g too much Listen to I gotta listen to this [ __ ] for two hours I thought it was cool I was like hey he said my name twice what up Russel what up Michigan it’s nice getting in

Here early enough that we can say hello to everybody yes we’re not like oh it’s 9:59 we gotta go I enjoy Kyle’s oh mo moment I gotta work on this TV behind me it’s all watched out I don’t like it all right uh 12 seconds to the legal here we go mics are

Hot yeah it is good morning everybody hello hello I’m Kyle he’s James and we’re gonna hang out with you until noon and then dowlo and Casey will come in and do a do a real radio show okay this is an exciting day though I want to we we’ll talk Kings I there’s

Man I have so much to get to that is directly like James doing stuff oh and it’s not Kings related Jake you of course are the king’s guy the Kings beat Kings be.com subscribe today and down download the Kings beat podcast wherever you get your podcast but you have done two things for

Me you have given me two gifts and it’s really really nice of you to do these things for me um the first thing happened last night I was sitting there and I was doing one of my various additional UH responsibilities media responsibilities Niners wire Candlestick chonicles whatever

Okay and I get a text from you that says I am watching the NFL combine and I got to tell You and then you said which is just great which is just like hey watching the combine getting dialed in love that for you love that for me love that for the show and then you said my favorite words that as a producer a host could

Say to me as a host the co-host could say to me you said I have thoughts and buddy I cannot wait to get your NFL combined thoughts right now okay so let me set the stage let me set the St stage I’m so fired up I ended up going to

Bennett uh but the new Bennett location off a Lone Tree shout out to Bennett shout out to Brian Bennett who came over and hung out and said hi uh so again Bennett you might want to sponsor the show we love Bennetts we were there maybe a segment uh yeah a segment of the

Show yeah we could talk about all kinds of things purple and black pregame show their happy hour is off the hook just so you know it’s off the hook like I it was so impressive and for a like today’s day and age where everything is so expensive

It was actually affordable I’m like well this is really nice so dude they’re not keep in mind like I’m saying Bennett is not paying us to say this no not at all I have never had I’ve had Bennetts probably three times so I’m not like the authority on it every time I’ve been

It’s been delicious I’ve never had the same thing twice it has been catered to this place and I’ve been there to the restaurant and it’s been unbelievable food every time every time when I’m driving in I pass it the one right here near the station I pass it and I always

Go I need to go to Ben tomor I I always feel the same way their French dip for lunch is just so you love the French dip it is pH and I bring fries to the guys anyway I’m sitting at Bennett you you know the fries are good because Damen

Barling the peak of physical fitness just demolishes them like man okay go on he feels bad I he does feel it’s like guilty pleasure but he has to yeah you have to okay so I’m sitting there in Bennett my wife is to my my left we’re we’re there with another couple right

Over the head of the other couple is a giant TV and on the giant TV is the NFL combine and it’s defensive lineman M day yes maybe my favorite day it was it was pretty amazing like some of these there was a dude who ran like a

44840 at like 64 and 78 64 yeah go on with and like 273 pounds or something so it’s chop Robinson okay a defensive end from Penn State he’s 63 258 254 okay yeah he was lighter that’s right so 63 is the first player to run a

Sub 5440 at 250 plus since Vernon Davis wow and he plays defensive end I was watching I’m like holy cow and then I watched a lot of the other defensive linemen and like I find it because you’ve said this oh you watch a combine you can’t really learn anything you

Should know everything you know right yeah it’s impossible not to be intoxicated but it’s it’s like I am somebody who watches for like body mechanics and and I’m watching and I’m like okay I watch a guy stand straight up in his in his 40 time he

Goes he goes to bust out of like he he’s ready to hit the the ground running for his 40 his first thing he does is stand straight up boom brutal five five flat I I know you’re running a five flat like you’re five plus yeah like like the

Basics of some of these guys that haven’t been really coached and worked with yeah like a high-end you know and then they had the drill where they have the the like big giant pads on the ground and you got to go one way and another way and then you got to come

Back and the guy’s like waving you go this way go this way and then fly out to the outside and you’re watching and there’s like three guys who have been in line watching the other guys do the drill they’ve all been watching they’re all waiting for their turn when it’s

Their turn they run out there and they get on the ground fast and then they don’t know how to do the drill and it’s for me as someone who coach young players and like soccer I’m like yeah this is so frustrating this is so you knew like mhm you were like the eighth

Person in line you knew what the drill was you watched everybody else do the drill or maybe you didn’t and you’re just sitting there and to me that’s another red flag it’s like I don’t look that that in itself is so much more valuable than a 40 time to me it is like

That just by itself you don’t know how to do this drill you’ve been standing there watching that’s a problem that’s a problem yeah yeah and then they got to start the drill up going to start the drill over yeah like wait what so I thought it was interesting because you

Can see again the guys who have worked with high-end trainers building up to it Y which is NBA Combine too you know you get the the crazy crazy combine guys they come in you’re like what in the world and then they last like two years in the league because they just worked

On their combine numbers yeah they didn’t work on their game at all yeah or they don’t really have game but they can jump high like or they’re they’re shuttle drill is really fast yeah you’re like okay you’re you can Sprint in the three4 court you get out on the break and need

To throw a lob that’s your guy yeah yeah I always like the like the the greatest combined story of all time in my book is um you know if you you want to be seven foot tall right of course so if you’re a big guy or if you’re I would take

5’11 okay if you’re a um like a six foot6 guy you know you go and find the like fattest shoes of all time so you can wear a two inch heel so all a sudden you’re a 69ine guy going to the draft if you’re a six foot like 10 6 foot 11 guy

You’re like man if I can be a seven-footer it’s gonna go down like oh he’s a legit seven-footer yeah hisan Whiteside oh no in his in his combine measurements wore flipflops and came in at 611 and 3/4 and to me that is everything you ever needed to know about

Ham Whiteside everything everything 611 and three qus because he wore flipflops into the measurement room instead of instead of cowboy boots a a shoe with a one inch heel or an inch and a quarter can you imagine how Hassan whiteside’s career would have gone if he measured in

At like 72 yes yeah and you know okay and in that draft that’s so tough he has a 7 foot n wingspan and the it’s him and cousins cousins had a seven eight wingspan yeah but two guys that are totally built different yeah the whole thing was like

It was crazy and then watching Hassan gained 40 pounds in his first offseason of sheer muscle and he tells us that his dad was a defensive lineman for the Vikings which I had no idea and his dad played at like 290 you’re like oh okay yoked and then he would come over and

Flex in front of the the oneway glass that he thought nothing was behind but it was really all the media standing there he go over and flex and like you could tell he’d been working out and uh yeah that was like that’s one of many or two of many many Hassan Whiteside

Stories some of them are not for that’s a good summer show just the Hassan Whiteside show or an off the yeah I may have told some of these on off the records with the Kings beat so it’s Employee Appreciation Day here at Odyssey and you can tell because

When you walk in there’s a sign hanging up that says we appreciate you like thank you yeah I now know how Kenny and DLo feel I know exactly because they do the midday right they do noon to 4 and when you’re in the midday I did middays my

Entire time at 957 three different shows but I was middays the the entire way and when you’re in middays you get hosed on things like Employee Appreciation Day because your show is the window that food is here and then food is gone that’s right and by the the time you get

Done like they bring breakfast for everybody and by the time you get done you go and there’s like half a soggy waffle and some very pick through it is very bad and then the fruit that nobody wants the fruit that nobody wants and then the the small pieces of scrambled

Eggs the little ones that fall off to the side not not the regular size stuff yeah that you straight yeah you that you cannot that you can’t really pick up with a plastic fork right you’re like this is miserable so it’s Employee Appreciation day today so they brought breakfast for everybody

And they was supposed to get here like 10 minutes before the show starts and that’s what happened last time when they they all the managers cooked for us oh yeah it was really cool and you went in and you told them what you wanted and

You sat down and they brought it to like a restaurant and that was 10 minutes before the show we got our stuff and we were able to eat it like during the show kind of throughout the show y uh today naturally right as the show starts I see

Them walk in with the food and it’s all sitting there and people just going to town right now I’m crossing my fingers for a croissant okay if there’s a croissant left I’ll be thrilled we might have to have you run out and Scout Force the break that’s that’s happening I’ll run

Out there I’ll do a quick run through then you can run out there and do or we can go vice versa I don’t really feel appreciated because normally like I typically I will go and get food for Damien and Kenny or for Jesse nobody seems to be appreciating us even though

We are the The Vibes guy who we are dut Friday incarnate we have provided so much food everybody here oh yeah and not a single person hey you guys want anything you can stand in the window right here you don’t even have to come into any studios

Are gonna be like hey do you want you guys want food you want to eat you want to eat yeah I would love to no Kyle they break it 10 they break it 13 we’re good I did get uh my 30 Odyssey points this morning I did too I

I I’m half I’m halfway to an odyssey backpack I’m so excited I want Kyle to get the clear fanny pack the plastic clear fanny pack but you should just get the backpack the so the thing with the plastic clear fanny pack is I’m a weirdo

I know use it I’d be like this has this is this is practical I have to fill my pockets plus you could take a clear fanny pack into like a stadium oh that’s a good point because they can see inside that’s a good point yeah so now it’s got

Double use now it’s not just a bit at the at the station now I can actually I just keep funneling I’m going to keep funneling my points every month Kyle no this is really good until you get up to 40 points and you’ll get that 240 points

Both the backpack and the fanny pack are like 240 oh yeah oh maybe it was how many no I thought I I thought I saw it was 160 167 oh maybe maybe that’s how many points away I am oh that’s possible that would be a messed up way to price

Things if you’re like oh yeah you want a new laptop you are let’s see $828 away all right all I’ll tell you is it’s uh super excited about the 30 points I got today and I don’t want to talk about that 10 points that I got earlier this year for something else

That I did yeah that’s uh shout out to our friends at Jiffy Loop maybe was worth more than 10 points just just saying Kyle all right we got a break right before I fired we do we have a Kings jersey to give away today o we’re doing

That courtesy of Jiffy Lube Jiffy Lube we’ll be doing that I have the second gift that you gave me that we need to talk about at some point as well okay we also have to get into the Kings play tonight uh the kings are at the Timberwolves and I really want to have

Some conversations about some of their guys Rudy goar Carl Anthony towns but I’m afraid if I do that they’re going to combine for like 4030 and 20 so we’ll figure out how to how to navigate that but I would really like to have some conversations about those dudes uh Kings

Timberwolves James gift to me we’re giving away at Kings jersey tons of stuff going on today on the Insiders we’re hanging out with you till noon on ESPN 1320 I’ll run first yeah go right what’s happening everybody speaking of points James you remember the Pepsi Points to get the

Pepsi chair I I don’t but Russell when I lived in Berkeley for a year my wife was going to UC Berkeley um before we got married um we had a studio apartment on the top of the Berkeley Hills that we rented and I worked at Copeland sports I

Had a cocacola card and it got me a dollar ticket into an A game A dollar hot dog and a dollar soda so I would pay like a164 to take the BART from Berkeley to uh to Oakland and then I would sit there and watch baseball games all day

Watch a game all day like during on my days off and it would cost me like 450 460 it was spectacular hi Spencer uh Tyler um our our friend Chris Beerman put out a video of him moving around pretty Genty um he is wearing a sleeve on his leg uh

We haven’t outside of like a a bruise or knee soreness um we haven’t got like an official determination let me see I’m going to read the injury report right now it says dearn Fox left knee contusion so he has a left knee yeah he he hit knees with um oh shoot oh hie

Hawz uh anyway I don’t know if if he’s going to play but he really does need to uh like the Kings really need him that would be bad um is he sitting you’re putting it out there that he’s sitting I don’t know that he’s sitting yet he’s he’s listed

As questionable so unless somebody’s putting that out right now um I don’t know it is possible that he won’t play he is not moving around all that that well but again I don’t think there’s a structural uh Cracker Barrel Cracker Barrel oo perfect 30 seconds you know who loves Cracker Barrel well Gary

Gerald’s wife that is their spot my wife also loves Cracker Barrel she’s from Kansas though so it I’ve never been to a Cracker Barrel all right 10 seconds all right now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320

He’s James I’m Kyle they’re the Sacramento Kings they are in Minnesota taking on the Timberwolves tonight Sacramento looking to win that season series that is all knotted up at one a piece what I want to know is how did they you guys James go get your breakfast go on James go get your

Breakfast what I want to know is all right okay hey I was trying to do our thing that I was trying to do our thing all right we’re feeling very appreciated now thank you Charlie this is so great uh Charlie uh Maloney everybody if you want to check him out

Youtube.com ESPN 1320 twitch.tv asbn 1320 is this your debut on the stream uh on our show it definitely yes yes it is on the stream yeah uh how’s it going man hey did you get some cracker bro uh not yet I will I will I mean why don’t no I appreciate you

You go no no no I got I’ve got like two hours to graze so it’s not an issue uh have you been to Crocker Baro before dude I grew up in Ohio that’s what I okay so that’s what I was gonna ask I guess my my phrasing should have

Been how many times have you been to crack I almost almost as many days as I’ve been alive okay so I mean if I stopped going to Cracker Barrel the the corporation would collapse because because here’s the deal keeping them open I go to Cracker Barrel with my wife and the

And she eats very quickly there and then goes to the goes to shop in the gift store and I love theft I quietly get to just go to ESPN and to Fox Sports and to sports to sports. Yahoo and so you and your wife go on a date to hang out alone

Exactly that is remarkable where’s my Applause that is a I mean come on and then and then that’s a great Vibe I love that and then afterwards we jump in the car and a lot of times we go to a movie or we’ll go pick up uh cheesecake at the

Cheesecake Factory or something I’m taking notes this is great and and we you know I mean it must be working because we’re coming up on our 46th anniversary this year wow holy smoke I’m uh my wife and I right there we’re coming up on two okay so hey

Ben you’re the locomotive is well on our way Cracker Barrel dates apparently the uh apparently the new move yep it is good Charlie sitting in for James it’s theoy appreciation day so James is out picking up his breakfast it looks like he got a loaded plate I love that I love

That for him I didn’t bring lunch today so I’m really glad that there’s I forgot there was breakfast I didn’t bring lunch because I got a jet like pretty quick after the show FYI um well see and I didn’t have my bagel this morning because it’s donut day oh yeah so

Listening to you guys coming in and then I hear it’s breakfast day and I’m going but then I hear that you guys aren’t breakfast and so I’m going no no can’t stand for that so there we go if you need refills flag me down go get yourself something to eat

Will we definitely appreciate you thanks Charlie he’s the best there he goes Charlie Maloney everybody second day in a row we’re gonna have to start paying him if he comes on a third day uh oh what’d you get oh he just took my phone hang on that’s hilarious Charlie’s gonna

Start breaking King’s news Charlie come back he’s got James phone James is the kind of person who’s plugged in that when his phone disappears it’s a problem like it’s a real problem it could be an issue if if the wrong person gets a hold of james’ phone maybe I said you’re the

Kind of person that’s that’s the kind of plugged in that like if the wrong person got a hold of your phone it could be a problem now I’m going to have to worry about that all the time people are going to be like I could only get my hands on J’s

But then I’d also like like they’d have to get it open and all that stuff I don’t know I’d worry like at least it doesn’t have the thumb print that someone would like try to get my thumb right that would be not good what was I watching where they did

That they went to a per oh they were uh was it follow the House of Usher oh I don’t I think they did that where the husband’s trying to get into the wife’s phone and she’s in a coma and so he like while she’s she’s in a coma like opens

Her eye so yeah it’s a wild I think that’s how it went I think I was watching some oh oh no it’s it’s it’s uh uh the House of Sun oh yes the brother Sun yeah the brother Sun yes that’s they’re going through all the thumbs

There were a lot of extra thumbs yeah the the agent goes and gets the thumb to get into the phone that’s exactly what it was although I feel like it happened to fall the house of user too the brothers soon very very good show there is uh out out in there there’s probably

14 pounds of bacon there is so much bacon I usually am like I didn’t I only grabbed a couple pieces of bacon because that to me is the right amount of bacon to have like a to not it’s just in my brain I go two pieces of bacon is a one

That’s you’re being like conscientious to everyone else sh thank you that right I’m trying to keep other people in mind there are just buckets of bacon over there yeah right now I could go make a BLT with like 42 pieces of bacon you could do BLT with like bread wrapped in

Bacon yes yes absolutely spectacular really really good shout out to shout out to Cracker barel okay so we’re gonna rearrange some things yeah things talk I’m gonna talk about the we’re gonna get to the Kings today guys I swear to Bob I’m I’m definitely worried though is

This the moment we talk about Blue Lips yeah that’s what I was going to say oh I your second gift to me okay I love school boy Q okay is one of my favorite rappers um I if you don’t I don’t know if I told

The story or not but I had heard like all of his hits off oxymoron but I had never listened to oxymoron all the way through and I finally decided to do that one day and was just blown away because it’s a great album and then a short

While later blank face came out his second album and loved blank face I still do it’s it’s it’s an all-tim for me well then he had another album come out called crash talk and crash talk is like way out of left field it is way over here it stinks I was very

Disappointed with it okay so Blue Lips comes out today listen to it on the way in I was very thrilled with it it is uh the production is great uh some of the features are great I really really enjoyed the album it is it is right up

There with oxymore right up there with blank face uh I haven’t gotten enough listens to decide if it’s better than those two yet but I loved it and then I said I’m G to talk about this on the radio today just because in and instead of leaving you out in the cold instead

Of being like James here’s a thing that happened and you’re like I don’t care like what you did I don’t sure I was like can you listen to some of this for me I would love I would love it if you would listen to this and I just want

Your your thoughts opinions and you got I think you said six songs in you listen to it on the way in I did I got six songs in thoughts um okay so uh blue slides yeah I enjoyed yeah that’s a more upbeat one and I think it’s love birds and those are the

Two that he uses other music like yeah like samples yeah of older music and then and then starts doing his stuff yeah I was down with those and I I thought they’re like really cool and and I like the arrangement and I thought it was creative the rest of it is tough because

I don’t listen to that type of music yes and I can’t get past the nword every two seconds sure that’s something like and I’m so outside of that like I don’t know like I I enjoyed like the beats and like like the arrangement and stuff but I preferred the other

Stuff where he was just kind of riffing without going there the whole time sure that’s understandable my wife’s the same way with music and that’s why so I ordered Blue Lips on vinyl I just pre-ordered it I took a leap of faith that it’d be better than crash talk and

Um I don’t that’s when it’s I have a couple like that where I can’t I I just don’t play those when she because she’s the same she’s like I just it’s not my bag yeah that’s fine and it’s not like you can skip when you got vinyl you got

Like literally like you’re just letting it rip yeah I’m glad I I thank you I know I I I had a very strong feeling it wasn’t going to be your favorite thing but I appreciate that you listened so we could we could discuss it on the radio I

Had a really short drive into work today yeah we stayed down here we stayed down here in Rockland so it was only like to stay out of the inclement weather well we didn’t want to go back late you know and and drive through maybe what could

Be bad weather I don’t know like the the boys well my my youngest had school today so it’s not like it snowed enough that that they’re gonna have a problem I I don’t know what the weather looks like right now at home but uh yeah yeah all right we’ll have Kings Timberwolves next

I swear you swear I promise okay that’s what’s going to happen next Charlie will barge in again or or someone will something something like that something like that’s going to happen uh we will talk about the Kings we will talk about the temp wolves and we have to at some

Point talk about Rudy go and Carl Anthony towns because I feel like they’re pretty polarizing players in a different way like we talked about Jamal Murray the other day and and Cat and and Gober are different polarizing in different ways than Jamal Murray like I think everybody is consensus is Jamal

Mer is really good but he gets rated higher on things like NBA rankings because of how he does in the playoffs with towns and goar I have questions about them as pieces of like a title team and that’s where that’s kind of what I want to dig into but I’m scared to do

That because if we talk about Rudy goar and Carl Anthony towns in any way that’s not like wow what a Duo David Robinson and Tim Duncan reincarnate watch out if we don’t if we do anything below that they’re gonna torch the Kings tonight for 60 combined points no totally that’s

Why you have to fear that I have to have I want to have a real conversation but I’m also terrified of jinxing the Kings because I am a superstitious weirdo and I don’t want to get blamed for this stuff anymore I stay at games they lose

My fault talk about Jamal Murray on the radio he goes for 32 in a in a Nuggets win my fault there it is I do believe all of this is your fault I know I do you’re Jinx go to go to shoot around Mike Mike Mike stop working on those

Defensive adjustments we got it we got it we fired Kyle need to start doing reverse jinxes we got to we got to think our way around this Cy I don’t see any okay I got you I don’t see any way the timber wolves don’t win the champ ship this year no of

Course towns Rudy go MVP candidates Anthony Edwards will they split the vote Kyle oh maybe three-way MVP over there yeah Jaden McDaniels I mean future MVP future Defensive Player of the Year candidate that’s a great yeah and maybe Rudy gober’s Defensive Player of the Year can maybe they player of the year

Maybe they’ll do what the Kings did last year while they sweep every single award is crinch is Chris Finch the greatest NBA head coach of all time I believe he is think he’s in the conversation I believe he is we’ll have Kings timber wolves for you next on ESPN

1320 Kyle and I have a lot of food to eat all of a sudden I can eat and talk if everybody’s okay with it being disgusting TR to figure I’m going to do this year Kyle did you have any of the potato soaked I mean the uh gravy soaked

Potatoes uh no I I kind of ripped through there because I knew I didn’t have a ton of time and I saw bacon a pancake and a biscuit maybe Charlie heard our bit thank you J yeah how’s it going everybody bro I had eaten all morning this the best bacon I’ve ever

Had in my life no [ __ ] oh sorry we’re just eating away hang on one second guys down yeah he’s [Laughter] like I’m fine oh a minut here what did this is the best bacon I’ve ever had in my life it was pretty good really good Mhm uh Dr David I have not speared pigs I made my own bacon but we do buy half a pig every year my buddy I worked with in Arizona did that i’ had never heard of that before but his his mom and dad would buy a cow yeah there’s local for AG kids

Meat to their Family it’s weird cuz you have to have um it goes to the bush Butcher and then the butcher calls you and like how thick do you want your pork chops yeah inch or inch and a quarter do you want like the the ham cured do you want your bacon

Cured how do you want your sausage do you want it Italian style do you want it you want your bacon cured no I’d like it to stay Dead Boys yeah okay here we go all right he’s James I’m Kyle and we’re going to do a radio show about the Sacramento Kings and the

Minnesota Timberwolves that game takes place tonight in Minnesota the Kings looking to win that season series uh they’ve split the first two the Kings won their first game back in Minnesota uh to to cap a long road trip one of their most impressive wins of of the

Year they went in to Minnesota and won that one 124 to 111 dearn Fox had a huge night that night 36 points seven boards 12 assists Sacramento shots 17 of 35 from Beyond The Arc the bench combined for 45 points in that one Kessler Edwards added 10 and Timberwolves just

25 points Off the Bench is that something the Kings can even replicate at this point like that game feels like a million years ago that’s an interesting question Kyle because I’m not sure that they can this this doesn’t feel like that team anymore um the offense just isn’t flowing and

Running like it was uh but then again this team has been that way the whole season where it’s they’re so hot and cold you have no idea when they’re going to turn it on when they’re going to be like a world beater and when they’re not

And yeah that was part of the End season tournament that first game they did lose the next matchup against Minnesota um you know 110 to 98 I think there’s something about Minnesota that we always bring up it’s this long athletic you know the kings are they really struggle with that type

Of team but I kind of there there’s a certain thing about Minnesota that I I disagree with a little bit when it comes to all that okay they’re long they’re athletic but they’re not physical and so you know they Carl Anthony towns can be like he can drop 30 on you with no

Problem but a lot of times it feels like it’s a soft 30 yeah you know and Rudy goar you know he does battle uh damont sabonis but same time damus sabonis seems to be just fine playing against them and they they have lengthen athleticism that matters but they also

Just don’t have that physicality that you you fear and that’s why I I don’t believe that Minnesota is probably going to be a high-end playoff team once they get there yeah they just aren’t quite there as a team yet and some of the pieces that they rely on heavily aren’t

There as players and and probably won’t be there as players yeah that’s a little bit where where I am too I really like what Minnesota has done and and is doing I frankly would punt it on them because I don’t I I did not believe that the Carl Anthony towns Rudy gobear thing

Was going to work Jaden McDaniels has taken a has taken a leap excuse me um and and Anthony Edwards is is awesome but I mean to what to what end right but yeah he looks to be trending in the direction of being a a onea type of player where he can be

The number one on a title team but to your point we talk about this with the Kings a lot right they need some dogs man they need somebody who’s going to set that tone physically whether it’s offensively whether it’s defensively like Jaylen Brunson with the Knicks is not a super physical awesome

Defender but offensively you’re going to feel him like he going to be he’s going to be physical in that way he’s going to attack and and you’re I I don’t I don’t feel like Minnesota has that player outside of Anthony Edwards and an is that’s that’s great but when so much of

Your foundation is Rudy goar and Carl Anthony towns is these two bigs that I don’t going into a playoff series I don’t fear them I don’t I don’t fear that Carl Anthony towns and Rudy goar are gonna be awesome for seven games I think you know that they’re going to put

Up numbers but you don’t know what that how big of an impact that’s going to have so what I I will point out that the two games this season the Kings when they beat Minnesota in Minnesota Jaden McDaniels play uh did not play and then when Minnesota beat the kings in

Sacramento Jaden McDaniels did play and McDaniels is a sneaky crucial piece to what they’re doing yeah so he he put up 20 points four steals uh five rebounds against the Kings and he played almost 4 41 minutes gez the difference between them with him and without is

That if if he’s out on the court and he’s defending dearon Fox that’s a really really long crazy athlete that that causes problems and uh I think that fox can figure it out but you know again he he wasn’t great against them in the second game he scored 27 points but

Again it was during a time where that’s what he’s doing every game uh but he turned the ball over three times he just wasn’t as impactful and we don’t know if Fox is going to play or not tonight because of injury but at the same time if if Fox

Isn’t there McDaniels is now going to be free to roam and probably defend Keegan Murray yeah and then life becomes really difficult for the Kings yeah so yeah and that’s with no dear and fox Keegan has to be the guy oh no totally he has to be

Next up and we we saw that against Denver early on Keegan was the guy who was stepping up and then he didn’t if if you’re not getting and this is where this is where the Timberwolves become really dangerous is if you’re not providing any offensive punch they they they’re not a great

Offensive team but they are good enough that if you’re not if you’re not putting pressure on them on that side on that side of the ball they’re just going to eat you Al lot and that’s where my worry comes in for Sacramento is man dearon

Fox not on the court we know it’s not Davon Mitchell we know it’s not Keon Ellis it’s going to be Malik monk at you know when when he is on the floor but outside of that I don’t have enough faith in in Keegan Murray that when presented with that kind of challenge

He’s gonna be like yep all right here we go I’m stepping up to this I am going to be the dude tonight no dearn here fine it’s the Keegan Murray show I don’t I haven’t I haven’t seen that maybe he will be and maybe we see it tonight but

I don’t I don’t have even if de was on the floor you want to see more of that from Keegan I just we we haven’t seen it yet to where I’m going yeah hey they’ll be they’ll be fine that’s a challenge that he’s going to step up to well and

Kyle this is the important aspect that I think that people need to understand if keeg Murray does become that player let’s say that fox does play tonight and the way that this game would start is that they’re gonna put Jade McDaniels on Fox to start the game right they’re not

Going to put Mike Connelly on him they’re not going to put Ant-Man maybe they’ put Ant-Man on him for a few minutes mhm but they’re they’re like historically they put Jade McDaniels on Fox and we’re talking about a 6′ n like rangy Defender the guy that we keep talking about that the Kings

Need that’s when Keegan Murray should shine because that means that somebody else is going to be defending him yeah whether it’s Connelly whether it’s Anthony Edwards it doesn’t matter he’s got a huge height Advantage he needs to cook right if he can start cooking then they would have to take jadeen McDaniels

And move him over and then dear Fox can cook and that’s sort of how this team should be built to move forward whether they can get to that point or not it really it depends on where Keegan Murray goes as a player whether he wants to

Take this leap and you know again the whole time D sabonis is going to be battling in the post and doing all that but I’m more concerned about that aspect right there if Fox doesn’t play that means that Jaden McDaniel slides over and defends Kean Murray and kagan’s

Gonna have a rough night he he just is I mean that he’s an exceptional Defender and he’s he’s got the length in athleticism to bother Keegan Keegan’s stronger than him but the Kings don’t use Keegan as a post player so that doesn’t really matter I think this is an

Important game for Keegan though yeah if Fox isn’t out there because the only way you’re going to grow into that players by having opportunities to do it and recognizing the windows of when to do it so even if even if Murray doesn’t have a a great game in that situation I don’t

Think it’s necessarily going oh man that’s awful for him long term like that’s what this is about this is about development this is about learning yeah and learning comes with those setbacks with those mistakes so I’m not that’s that’s that’s the weird thing to to borrow a phrase that’s the two timeline

Thing with Keegan there’s there’s this year there’s right now today tonight and the King’s needing to get wins that is the West is not in a place where you can go yeah now if he lose this one it’s fine like that’s just that’s that’s not where they’re at in the standings and

That’s not where the West is ever going to be at any point this year but long term I don’t think there’s any major issue um I’m not going to come in here tomorrow if Keegan Murray gets guarded by Jada McDaniels and has a has a tough

Night yeah and go I mean I just don’t see it no so no I don’t think so either in the two timeline thing you bring it up like look I think that I I’m I hate that that’s become like a joke no because it’s a valuable like a useful

Thing yeah but I’m of the opinion that this is the moment where the Kings have to have to combine the two timelines M like they have to have Keegan Murray be that player and they have to be that team at the same time we’re we’re not

Looking at three years down the road K Murray came out as a 22y old 21 going on 22 you know he’s not a baby yeah he needs to be treated with you know the idea that he’s a year and a half in and he knows the game and it’s time for him

To start playing up to the potential and that doesn’t mean every night but it does mean that he needs to start being that player and showing us that that’s that’s who he’s going to be yeah totally and if he can’t get there that’s a fair point that’s okay but that just

Means that you need to adjust accordingly during the offseason and over the next couple of years as you you’re building out your team I do think he is that player though yeah yeah I I I think he gets there too I want to remind you coming up Saturday

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On this radio station how do they get a win how do they avoid losing three in a row and uh can they avoid losing three in a row because I tell you this feels like one of those games that I’m going in going don’t don’t love this spot for

The Kings I agree 100% all right we’ll uh we’ll talk about that in a in a bit let’s talk talk about the standings though as we very s here um the Kings got uh not not a ton of help last night the Warriors and Lakers both won they’re

Now lurking the Warriors are 10 Lakers nine the Kings two games up on Golden State and I think a game and a half on the Lakers is it two and a half on Golden State and two on the Lakers something like there are two games up on

The Lakers so they’re two up on the Lakers which I mean thinks which I think means they’re two and a half up on Golden State and what we continue looking ahead that’s a factor here because the Lakers are all of a sudden starting to win the Lakers the Lakers are game and a

Half behind the Kings game and a half behind the Kings and and the Warriors two back and the Warriors are two back and the kings are the Lakers are tied with the kings in the wind column man not to mention the Lakers have won seven

Of their last 10 they just had a massive comeback at home well like like on the road against the Clippers on the road against dangel D’Angelo Russell hitting a huge three and turning around and shushing a crowd that’s all cheering for him like bro come on read the room yeah

Uh they just had that huge comeback win and they’ve won seven of their last 10 Golden State went into New York last night and beat the Knicks one how did I not have the score here I think it was 11099 I think was the final okay in that

One and the Warriors have now quietly won eight of their last 10 and that’s that’s where I don’t so here’s the I don’t think the kings are necessarily in danger of falling out of the play in the Jazz are going the wrong direction and they are the next closest

Team they’re what seven back of the Kings yeah that’s where you start to yeah there’s seven back and the the Rockets are I eight and a half back yeah yeah so like you’re GNA be a playing team no matter what but the question I don’t think that anyone was comfortable

Asking before was are you going to be a team that has to play on the road in the play mhm are you a team that isn’t playing for the 78 seed you know because of course in the playin the 78 play MH and if whoever wins that game is a seven

And then the nine and 10 play and whoever wins that game plays the loser of the S8 game and what you don’t want to do is be the be a team who a plays on the road and B has to beat two teams to get into the playoffs and and one of

Those teams could be Golden State Warriors one of them could be the Los Angeles Lakers and if anyone out there thinks that you’re going to get a truly Fair Shake in one of those games you’re going to have to win that game you’re hand handly you’re going to have to

Defeat them because that’s a league and number one step is going to dominate and take over or what we saw from LeBron James 19 points in the fourth quarter against against Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers yeah like that’s no joke when that guy wants to make the playoffs and

Wants to win a playing game you’re in some trou trouble yes so even at 39 years old yeah the Kings have to figure things out and we talked about this five game set here a lot and this five game set like you know we thought hey if you

Could go three and two it’d be great but there’s a good chance you’re G to go two and three on this set right they win the first two games we get a little like hey look they they might have something here yeah all a sudden you drop two now this

Becomes a really pivotal game after this the schedule does lighten up and the Kings have like 10 games uh coming up where they got a good shot right and they might be able to build something here but if they have no momentum and we’re starting to see some cracks in

This thing then I don’t even know like scoreboard watching matters as much because this team just might not be good enough to to make it or might not be able hold it be able to hold it together you know we saw the the comments from Kevin hter after the game the other

Night uh you know not great MH um you know I get it and play player wants to play but you also have to look at the the game and how a player played yeah and I mean he finishes with like 18 minutes and if if they were competitive

At all he would have played 12 minutes in the fourth quarter or or 10 minutes in the fourth quarter right but they weren’t Kyle and they were a minus 20 in his 18 minutes yeah and then it got worse it wasn’t like he was tearing it

Up and they left him on the bench while the well they got cooked like that that wasn’t the case at all yeah that’ll be interesting to see how he responds tonight no I totally agree but it plays into this larger question about can the Kings fend off the Lakers and the

Warriors and and can they can they find a way to move up above Dallas you got two more games against Dallas that’s where you can really start to you know try to get out of the 78 and get into that next step which is the the 56 and

You know you’re only a game a game behind the Pelicans for uh for right it’s not like super dire yeah looking ahead that that’s not that that’s a little bit where my point with bringing up the Warriors and the Lakers is not like wow the kings are going to fall

Back look at this yeah it’s just hey we’ve been looking so far ahead that very quietly as the Kings have scuffled a little bit here you have these two teams that were behind them that are now playing really well and now that’s just another thing we have to worry about

While also continuing how are the Mavs doing how are the pels doing how are the Suns doing exactly because they’re right there yeah yeah this is it’s becoming a it was a group of four and it and it’s all of a sudden like table for six and that’s a little uncomfortable that

Should be really if you’re the kings that should be really really uncomfortable that um all of a sudden that that group that was separated by you know was like your group and then another group that was three or four games back now five through 10 is

Separated by three and a half games yeah and that’s crazy but at the same time not to just to kind of zoom out they’re also and you mentioned this five game stretch where we’re going you gotta go you got to go three and two but immediately after this stretch things

Lighten up a lot yeah a lot for Sacramento and they’re in a place standings wise where if you go win six seven in a row not even asking for a crazy long win streak but put together six seven wins in a row against not top end competition and all of a sudden

You’re very firmly in that spot where maybe you’re not maybe you’re not up at the the four or the five but like comfortably in four or five but you’re comfortably clear of the bottom of the playin yes and potentially comfortably clear of the the playin entirely with 15

Games to go yeah that should be the key and I mean we keep bringing this up but making the playoffs is a big deal and so the way that standings go is if you make if the kings make the play in but lose they become a lottery team and they keep

Their pick which is bad which is very bad yes this is not a good draft but it also ties up your 2025 26 and 27 picks again and now you’re you’re worried about what that means what you can trade this off season if uh but if they let’s

Say they make the play on but they lose in the playin that’s what happens you become a lottery team so that’s where the standings are kind of weird if a team comes up through the playin and becomes like last year like the Lakers were they become an eight seed but were

Not the eight seed going in and they actually earned their way into the playin same thing with Miami Heat right Miami Heat were like a nine seed they had to play the nine they had to play both playing games they oh no no they were a 78 they lost uh to Atlanta and

Then had to play the the 910 if they would have lost again they’re out and they become a lottery team so yeah this is a it’s a big deal because it really does gum up all of your future your future draft picks and stuff and it’s counterintuitive right because typically

You’re like you want to keep your pick yeah but for the Kings if they if the pick conveys this year if they make the playoffs the Hawks get the Kings pick so the Kings don’t have a first-rounder this year but it allows them to then trade 252 26

27 yeah so if you give away your 2024 right you have no uh picks owed going forward yes so starting on July 1 you have your 2025 your 2026 27 28 29 30 and 31 you have access to seven years wor the picks you can trade every other

Pick which means you would have access to at least four picks and then pick swaps and other things so this comes in to play If there becomes a a really good star player yes and you want to go out and trade for that star player it also

Like you don’t want to take a step back if you’re building something here as a franchise yeah you don’t want to run it back and have run it back mean you went out there and you regressed and you didn’t make the playoffs that’d be really tough yeah that’d be I I would still

Be I I would still be like you even if that happens you’re you’re still sitting here with a foundation of demonus sabonis De and fox and conceivably Keegan Murray and that’s a good okay that’s a good starting point but now all of a sudden if it’s if you’re looking at

The end of this year and you’re going that’s it there needs to be an entire roster put around this group yeah that’s where it gets really dicey because now you’re not a hey a move or two away and we’re we’re in their Championship Contender now it’s like hey we’re four

Or five moves away and you’ve got got D sabonis and dearen fox entering their late 20s yeah and that’s where the timelines start to kind of like now you’re up against the clock so making the playoffs this year is just massive from so many different perspectives no I

I I totally agree and like the problem is if you’re out on the open market and you’re trying to make a deal and the players you’re trading are let’s just say you know again your big money players that you that we’ve seen that were you know banon about all during

This this last trade deadline Kevin herder uh you know Harrison Barnes like we’ll start to get into the Chris DTE contracts and the and the uh Davon Mitchell contracts and stuff like that but but if you can’t package that stuff that you’re trading with anything other

Than maybe a 2027 pick so we might be able to offer you something like three years from now that’s not a lot to offer you got what I’m saying like teams look around the league would go okay you know I want a 27 I want a 29 I want a 31 if

They’re going to make some big deal right right but then you start competing against other teams say Oklahoma City Thunder who has a war chest and now we start running into the problem that they can offer a 25 26 27 pick that you can’t offer yeah and that’s that becomes a

Problem yeah no doubt not having it would be man what a disaster that would be yeah I’m trying to so so if they miss the playoffs we’re going into this offseason going okay so they have a pick and a in what’s supposedly a bad draft they

They um you might be able to find a player but go ahead but they can’t trade their future picks now 25 26 uh and 27 you can put in a clause that says like if the 25 pick conveys and they get the 27 pick if not though it’s a 28

Mentioned like Oklahoma City oh yeah and if you’re put if you’re bidding against teams like hey we have this pick maybe maybe that’s not that’s not gonna be a super strong argument and on top of that you would need a you would conceivably need a bigger overhaul of your roster

Having just missed the playoffs yes here’s this is why no mechanisms to do it exactly and this is why I always bring these up too like people forget in 2011 the the Kings traded a they traded omry casby and a future Lottery protected pick for JJ Hixon JJ Hixon was

A complete disaster the Kings waved him total mess he was a total mess like there was everything he came in and like he was young he he was still super athletic but you know we’re talking about a 23y old you thought you were getting your long-term power forward fit

F and he was not happy at all because he had played on a Cavs team that made it to the finals and uh and so they got catered everything and like he just like wasn’t happy at all but like first interview I ever did with JJ Hixon like

The night he was traded Sacramento he started talking in the third person and it was like oh boy here we go that I don’t know if there’s a bigger red flag for me it was like oh well like hey JJ what have you been working on during the

Offseason JJ hixon’s been working on a fallway jumper uh you and he just start kept late like telling me how many different jumpers and I thought I was listening to like Bubba lifts list off shrimp and I was sitting here like oh no why have you been working all the all

These jumpers when you’re the guy who is super athletic and should be finishing at The Rim like where is your post move where like all of these things you know a jump stop and fall away and it’s like but oh no the point the reason I bring up J.J hickon in this conversation

Really quickly is that the Kings traded a lottery protected pick that year for JJ Hixon you know you want to know when that pick uh relayed please 2017 no the pick that should that that is dearen Fox when the Kings traded in 201617 they traded DeMarcus Cousins

Right right at the deadline and they fell out of the playoffs m that pick the kings were in the playoff picture it was a top 10 protected pick from the JJ Hixon trade in 201 and every year the Kings had not relay the pick when they traded Demarcus

They fell out of the playoffs and moved up to the eighth spot that first round pick actually became two seconds and dissolved and they got two seconds right oh my God the Kings got dearen Fox because they had the eight pick moved up to number three but they had a stupid

Pick Swap and dropped to number five which is where they got Fox all of that was from the JJ hickon trade if they wouldn’t have traded Marcus they wouldn’t have got de dearen Fox straight up straight up they would not have gotten dearn Fox they were a

Playoff team and certainly not a bottom they would have made the playoffs well maybe they could have also missed the playoffs and not had the pick it would have been top 10 and oh no you remember in the Demarcus trade they picked up New Orleans pick which ends up being the

10th pick which they traded for 15 and 20 where they drafted Justin Jackson and Harry Giles that’s why all of these things matter Kyle when you put them in historical perspective and you look at all these things have happened in the past that’s why the 2024 pick relaying

It does matter all right we we’re really up against it uh Victor wanyama went nuts last night what does that mean for the Oklahoma City Thunder though and what does that mean potentially for the Kings we’ll tell you next on ESPN 1320 sorry I took us down a dark Road way too

Long hello everybody I am gonna grab this biscuit to eat while I do my stuff though yeah Edgard they could have drafted you say this right here they could have kept the 10th pick drafted Donovan or bam they went back to back I think at 13 and 14 yes 13 and 14 John

Pauls Dallas added a first round pick in for Gafford so no they didn’t trade him for nothing and I don’t think you rushed it I just think that he thought he had it’s like to be honest with you it’s similar to the Pix I mean to the um the Pix swap

Deal that uh that vlady did so vlady I think it was 2000 um let me think what year was it that he did that trade um he traded a future first and two pix swaps one pix swap happened and the other didn’t but what he did was he

Dumped Jason Thompson Carl Landry and Nick stais on the Philadelphia 76ers which ended up being like over a threeyear period like 32 or 33 million bucks worth the contracts and in that deal um he he basically gave up a future first which ended up being the 2019

First round pick which was ended up being nothing like that wasn’t a good pick either way I think it that I think that’s what year was I think it was Denzel Valentine that was drafted with that pick two-time Kings Legend Carl Landry not one time yeah

Um uh something battle r4p uh when did baggley get traded to the whiz at the deadline we were talking about that before it’s crazy his stats are literally identical almost to every single year he was in Sacramento’s nothing of not consistent 14.2 points and I think 8.4 rebounds per game so

He’s like up a rebound per game but exactly the same number okay so uh all right 5 Seconds illegal here we go Okay hour number two that first hour was chaos you can always tell when it’s a Friday show I think so when I first got into radio not not got into radio when I first got to 957 uh because at my other station every show was a Friday show uh but when I

First got to 957 somebody mentioned the idea of like that’s a great idea for a Friday H it’s like it’s Wednesday it’s a great idea for right now was it not a great idea for it was like a silly kind of bit thing I can’t

Even remember what it was it was so long ago and so a great idea for a Friday show I’m like what does that mean they’re like well Fridays are just a fake show it’s just like silliness unsubscribe to it being a fake show like it still very much matters

But stuff like talking about school boy Q’s album and talking about a playy appreciation day and things of that name like they just fit better better on a Frid you’re allow some leeway yeah okay unless of course you know something big had happened last night that wouldn’t be

All over it but anyways very Friday show today yeah definitely definitely a Friday show uh we were talking earlier um about the trade that Vlad duts did where he ended up giving up a 2019 for p pick and I thought it was Denzel Valentine it was not Denzel Valentine it

Was Romeo lingford sorry um very similar Blair uh who who basically is out of the league as well so so that pick really didn’t hurt the Kings end up being like the 14th pick in the draft and like in in another suspect draft you could write a book about these

Disasters oh yeah I yeah it feels like a you know do you remember Goosebumps yeah are you were you I I have kids okay and they were the like choose your own adventure stories yeah where you’d read and it’d be like you get to the forest

Turn to page 19 to walk into the forest turn to page AG 46 to go home you know whatever see choose your own Adventures I I I grew up with like those were my books okay so I right Choose Your Own Adventure I guess goes beyond Goosebumps

That’s just how I remember them but that’s how I feel like you could do a king’s version of that like oh yeah do you want to do this do you want to do this pick swap then turn to page 18 I could you want to keep Nick stasis turn to page

14 I I also do like the Marvel what if what if oh that’d be good what if the Sacramento Kings didn’t draft Thomas Robinson and selected Damen Lillard oh with the fifth pick in the 2012 NBA draft what if what if they drafted CJ McCollum instead of Ben mclamore

2013 what if they would have listened to Jeff Petri and drafted Giannis an tumbo with the number seven pick or move back and got more things and drafted yonas in 2013 NBA draft what if they didn’t fire Mike Brown Mike Malone Mike Malone not they haven’t fired Mike Brown yet no

What if they did fire Mike Brown uh yeah see there there like there are definitely a lot of wh ifs yeah um yeah that’s where like my brain like works with the history stuff yeah of course telling you it’s a great book either Choose Your Own Adventure or what if or

Both choose your own ad like just restart the Kings at like 0607 yeah and just start to do a Choose Your Own Adventure of what ifs yeah I mean I could what if they they let the kings move to Anaheim okay that’s too far just saying that’s just where the

Book ends turn to the last page sicko it’s over it’s over and then they all died the end uh the San Antonio Spurs got their 12th win last night they beat the Oklahoma City Thunder who had won six in a row they were cruising when they went into San Antonio and you’re

Thinking man the Thunder are gonna whoop this team they’re playing for a number one seed the Spurs are playing out the string not if Victor wanyama has anything to say about it Victor wanyama 28 points 13 rebounds seven assists two steals five blocks five of seven from Beyond

The Arc just in the fourth quarter uh wanyama eight points three boards three assists he was two of three from three he had the dagger in that one Jeremy soan Devon Vel both really good in that game who cares about the Spurs except Victor wanyama lines are always

Hilarious um Chad hram by the way who we’ve talked about before would just be the runaway Rookie of the Year like Stone Cold mortal lock in any other season any other season yeah last night 23 points seven boards five assists a block just an excellent player and wanyama just talk about just getting

Overshadowed completely tier it’s crazy uh you said something interesting to me though uh oh because I saw this I I I saw the end of this game the very end of it my buddy’s a big Spurs fan and texting me he’s like you got to see why

I’m be doing this all right man I got you um you were like hey the Thunder lost and typically we’ll go back and forth you know Pelicans lost Mavericks lost and we’ll just kind of kick that around for a second she text me to go the Thunder loss I’m going

Well kings are currently seven and a half back of the Thunder what is that please explain why you think it may be significant that the Thunder lost last night well yeah because like look we have no idea where this thing is going to end up that what is there 24

Games left in the season yeah for the Kings like there there are plenty of times for 25 yeah 25 okay there there is plenty of time for one of these teams that are inexperienced and up near the top to completely collapse there’s also plenty of time for them to move down to

A number three seed and the Kings to move up to a number six seed like these things can matter especially OKC if you’re the Kings right now I I think you would Circle maybe men you’d Circle OKC you’d Circle Dallas m i who else would you Circle and say this is who I

Would kind of you know you don’t want to Circle Denver because Denver just showed you who they could be yeah I want no smoke with Denver in the playoffs but the first three games of the Season you you did play Denver well I don’t want

Any part of Mike Malone and his staff in a seven game series I’m kind of in agreement with you there so but Oklahoma City Oklahoma City I think if you’re if you’re ranking these teams I I think Oklahoma City is a pretty clearcut number one there for all the

Reasons remember last year you you we do last year going to the the Kings Warriors series kings were a better team all year but the the thing everybody kept picking the Warriors is because of all the experience it’s been there before the kings are just too young this

Is year one of this thing you don’t make runs in year one and that to me is the logic I’m using with Oklahoma City I love them I think they are going to be so freaking good for a long time yeah I’m not buying them this year as a as a

Playoff Contender no I mean the Clippers and the Suns would both probably try to lose games to make sure that they matched up with OKC yeah even more than Minnesota even well but then again in Minnesota I’m not sure because Minnesota is Minnesota’s at least been there with these dudes they

There last year they gave the Nuggets their toughest series yeah but I would still say that you’re going to run into the problem that in the playoffs like everybody knows how to run Rudy goar off the court yeah and you’re just going to get in switches and you know that’s

That’s the one thing that like we talk about like the Kings haven’t developed their identity and stuff that’s still something that I don’t think that we see enough where the Kings we saw it for like five minutes and we talked about early in the season for like five

Minutes where the kings were starting to get the switches that they wanted to get that went away that that’s like one of those things that just hasn’t happened where the kings are no longer getting the switches and the things that they were trying to yeah this thing this team

Is it’s got me it’s got me a little like all over the place well that’s what they are they’re all over the place yeah and that’s it you can’t you can’t go in on them like dude they need to blow this up they need to do X they need to do y they

Need to do Z because there have been enough flashes this year that you’re going man if they just do that they could win nine out of their next 10 and be firmly in the playoffs and we’re going all right hey how do they match up with the

Clippers you know oh feel feel good going into the playoffs look how well they’re playing down the stretch like that’s on the table for me I wouldn’t bet on it just based on what we’ve seen this year but like tonight I look at tonight and I go I think the kings are

Going to lose tonight I do not love this spot for them they’ve lost two in a row now they they’re second uh second Road game in a row coming off a really bad loss to Denver like man this is just feels like this is where they slide a little bit dear Fox

Is questionable dear Fox dealing with a a knee thing but every time this year I’ve gone like well they’re they’re they’re cooked tonight they’ve gone on one and look great where we’re going the next day we’re like Hey ohy There It Is hey I they’re just are they back we’re all

Over the place because they’re all over the place do not blame yourselves yeah do not do that it’s the king’s fault it’s their fault you’re reacting to their performances and their performances are all over them it’s not you it’s them it’s not you it’s them don’t have them call you you’ll call

Them that’s right all right uh we need to hit a break how do the Kings win tonight I I am not optimistic but every time I’ve been not optimistic this year they have uh shown the best version of themselves every time they’ve gotten their backs really up against the wall

They have come out and played their best how do they play their best tonight we’ll tell you next we’re all over the place on top okay I wouldn’t be mad I have a tattoo appointment today guys my artist does this thing where he um will Design things and then

Basically he won’t do it for free but he does it for like like super cheap because it’s just work he wants to do and he does a lot of like kind of like maob like dark kind of horror type things that are just not my vibe like that’s not I have like Disney

Tattoos kind of thing and and I was thinking about it the other day and I’m like man he posted this one design that I really liked it was not as horror is it was something a little more um it was a little lighter and and it’d be funny if it was actually

A little lighter like a lighter but it’s like this big um but he goes uh he I was like man this is sick I really like this one and he goes this is something you would get I was like yeah think about it you know it’s not really it’s still not

My style necessarily but I I like the design overall like if I if I woke up and had that on my body I wouldn’t be you know like mad about it um but still not not quite My Vibe so don’t don’t give this I I was thinking about the

Other day I was like there’s a way I can tie this into what I what I do like what I like and so I sent him a couple ideas and I was like hey what would you think about this and he sent me the mockup today well first of all he’s like love

This this is great super amped for it can’t wait um um was can you come in Friday like already he books out for like months in advance I was like yeah sure I got you I can come in Friday and uh he sent me the design today he sent me like a rough

Sketch and I was like wow this is gonna be sick and then he just sent me the final one and I’m hyped about it man check it check social media for it I’ll post it later oh my man come on take two I get two look at James brought me this is

Weird because my camera is here but the computer I’m looking at is Over Yonder and so I keep like trying to talk to you guys in the chatty house like this because I’m looking at the computer I’m looking at you but I’m actually all right fine I’ll show you guys hang on hello

Everyone I don’t know this might take two sessions the bacon has gotten better where’s that going uh my thigh oh here we go all right we’re back in here Kings Timberwolves tonight he is James ham owner owner of the Kings beat of course Owner Operator Operator staff writer executive editor editorinchief

Intern host of the podcast host host of the podcast subscribe to the Kings be at the Kings be.com you can also subscribe to the Kings beat podcast which is James sea Sean Cunningham I wanted to say Scott Cunningham I don’t know who that is but Sean Cunningham and Brendan

Nunes they do a great job so make sure to check that out but uh since we’re here let’s talk Kings Timberwolves right now on this program how’s that sound I’m in um keys to victory tonight for the Sacramento Kings as they look to win their season series against the

Timberwolves they’ve split the first two but the Kings did get one in Minnesota that was another game that we we we talked a little bit earlier about uh the how many times this year it’s felt like the Kings like okay the second shoe is dropping here’s where

They kind of slide and really show us who they are and they don’t play well but then they come out with this really great performance and this was they lost they that was the road trip where they lost the two in New Orleans mhm and you’re going man now they got to

Go to Minnesota this is just this could get ugly and then they go and they just worked Minnesota and played one of their best games all year well that Minnesota at that point had not lost at home yeah I think they’re nine and0 at home or

Something that like this was a a big- Time Victory especially the getaway game you know you you’d won three straight you got the Lakers San Antonio and the Mavs on the road trip then you get just thumped by the Pelicans twice and then you know this team has an uncanny

Ability to show up in weird situations and make some noise I’m here for it yeah and so it’s definitely it’s intriguing to me to to see who this team is who they show up uh how they show up in a game like this where it’s starting to matter a

Lot yeah I think the thing that stuck out when I was going back through that game is okay dearen Fox is obviously great domas didn’t have a huge game but he still really productive it was the 45 bench points for me that when I look at

Okay how do they replicate the 45 bench points like man if they get that tonight you get 45 from your bench regardless of who’s doing the 45 I would feel really really good about them winning tonight yeah I just don’t know that they have that bench anymore

No which is weird you get to this point in the season and like I don’t know who would who would put up those points Kesler Edwards had 10 yeah I mean what Kesler Edwards makes sense playing him against this team he makes sense against cat he makes sense against uh Jade

McDaniels yeah well maybe he does all right let’s get to keys to Victory James ham of the Kings beat what is your first key to a Sacramento Kings victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves it is ignore their length and play your game like just forget about it just don’t worry

About the fact that Rudy goar is standing in the key feed domas like just like play your game and let the chips fall where they may don’t get into some weird like paint Touches for this team are so crucial yeah do what you do do your offense be who you are and you

Should be okay yeah and that that actually perfectly ties into my first key and that is you have to move the ball on offense the ball has to hop around because if you sit there this this Minnesota team in this year where offense is blowing up and offensive

Ratings are higher than they’ve ever been and the Kings set a record for offensive rating this year and there’s like six or seven te or last year and there’s six or seven teams with a higher one this year the Timberwolves still have a defensive rating of

108.3 the next the next team is the Cavaliers at 111.3 that three-point difference in defensive rating is the same as the difference between two and 10 wow like that is how far ahead Minnesota is of every other team defensively and I think to combat that a little bit you

Have to have the ball moving if you’re doing if you’re doing one dribble handoff every single time they’re going to adapt to that and it’s that’s it if it’s hey give it to domas in the post and let him dribble and he’s going to try and figure out a way to get it

They’re going to adjust and they’re going to get stops that way now if you’re moving you’re going to get clean shots you’re going to get looks at The Rim the ball has to move tonight I would love to see 30 plus assists from the Kings yeah and that’s who they areh it’s

Just it don’t get away from who you are yep number two feed Keegan if if Fox is out this uh this might change a little bit but the Timberwolves like to run Jaden McDaniels a fox and they that that would leave someone else anyone else to defend Keegan if Fox plays Keegan needs

To eat he needs to be a focal point for the Kings if Fox doesn’t play life becomes a lot more difficult and it just becomes who gets hot try to ride the hot hand try to get through a game try to find a way to be gritty and win but to

Me it really does hinge upon Fox playing or not but feed Keegan and that’s not just for tonight like it is it is just for tonight but then you want to zoom out and go long term like Keegan having a big game would be yeah would be big

Time for his for his development number two for me ties in a little bit to my first one and this goes back to the king’s identity every time the Timberwolves miss a shot get the rebound and go yeah do not let their defense get set because again that is when they can

Just put you in a bind and and just kind of suffocate you if you’re getting out and running making it a more frenetic Pace that makes it a little bit more difficult to to get set and play that lock down defense yep I’m with you number three this is a playoff game

Straight up dang Kings have gotten to a point where blown too many games it’s it it’s a playoff game it’s a playoff game man and you need to treat it as such like it doesn’t matter if Fox plays or not you got to go out there and

You have to try to search out a win you don’t want to drop three in a row right here the standings are just smacking you around like the Lakers and the Warriors are on your heels you got teams try trying to pull away from you up above

Like you have got to figure out a way to lock in and and win a game that matters this is a playoff game that’s a a great point and I think that that’s something we should track the rest of the way because it feels like every game going

In it’s like yeah this feels like this is playoff fish and that’s how it’s going to go my last one number three outshine Their Stars Minnesota had two All-Stars I don’t think they should have no Carl Anthony towns and Anthony Edwards Anthony Edwards being an All-Star fine Carl Anthony towns felt like a

Reach and I would like to see deas sabonis specifically show that tonight show why that that was wrong he’s gotten opportunities to play and show and he average a triple double in February and look how great he is should have been an All-Star everybody knows it well now’s a

Chance to go up against Carl Anthony Town specifically and Rudy goar he’s gonna see plenty of Rudy goar but not one-on-one necessarily just outplay Carl Anthony towns by a lot I would like to see that tonight no I I totally agree what’s your match up of the game My matchup of the game

Um I’m gonna go back to man you know I it’s I I I know I joked about this last time it’s sabonis against goar that’s that is what I because I think domas is gonna need to score tonight he’s gonna have to put the ball in the basket and something I want to

Bring up actually a little bit later but he has to score and put the ball in the basket the Kings I think are at their best when they are getting into the paint they’re getting those paint touches and Rudy goar is just an eraser inside and I think if de sabonis can win

That match up maybe hit a couple of Threes get Rudy goar to pull him out of the paint a little bit that’s what I’m watching for okay what about yours uh my match up of the game is I’m gonna go Keegan Keegan versus uh Jaden Jaden McDaniels because I think

That that’s like if if Keegan can find a way and can fight through the fact that he’s playing against a strong Defender then the Kings have the second or third score that they need and if not I think this this game G could get ugly especially if Fox doesn’t play injury

Report we’ve got dear Fox questionable with uh left knee contusion and of course Sasha venkov is out Kyle Anderson is doubtful for the Minnesota Timberwolves uh but also Anthony Edwards is questionable with the with left ankle soreness so maybe saying there’s a chance I don’t know just get the just

Get bench on bench there we go I the king’s chances in that one like their chances early in the season but their Chan right now maybe we’ll see maybe not now Kessler Edwards against Jaden McDaniels is my match up to watch all right uh want to remind

Everybody real quick before we get out of here uh Saturday 11:15 a.m. college basketball here on ESPN 1320 number five Marquette at number 12 kraton start getting those notes down for your brackets and then we’ve got some NBA basketball for you 5:00 pm. Saturday nuggets at Lakers and Sunday 9:30 :30

A.m we’ve got Sixers at Mavs that Sixers Mavs game is one that Kings fans are going to want to keep an eye on that is a big time game for Sacramento basically rooting for the Kings and every team playing against Dallas that’s and New Orleans and

Phoenix and the Lakers the rest of the way and Warriors and Golden State there’s so many teams invol oh dumb all right uh we got more Hoops coming up on ESPN 1320 um Mondo I I think we do see Alex ly tonight maybe R probably probably but I also they’ve got a really

Nice really nice Super Sub there not having Kyle Anderson’s a big deal Kyle Anderson is one of those players that I just I I know he’s good like in my heart of hearts I know he can play and he’s an effective player but I cannot bring myself to take him

Seriously I’ve never been able to understand how people can’t stop him I don’t he’s moving in slow motion he’s like Jamie moer no exactly like how did have a career ra of 90 how can you not just hit the ball over the fence every single

Time he pitches it to you his FB 84 miles an hour and he’s piping it all day long and you’re swinging and missing that’s a great comp boit what Jamie Moore play like 22 years wow Jamie Moyer career win loss oh my gosh he played till he was

49 Jamie Mo played until he was 49 yeah dude holy smokes the Rockies he was 47 and n and at 47 he was 9 and N at 46 12 and 10 45 he was 16 and seven at 45 years old MH his career ER 425 269 and

209 is Jamie Moyer a Hall of Famer he’s one of those guys that I feel like should be in him and Julio Franco okay like just by by virtue of how long they played just like yeah put him in there well that and Julio Franco just because of his batting stance Jamie

Moyer uh served up 522 careers in his uh 522 home runs in his career which is a Major League Baseball record he gave up a an incredible lad the league 44 ters during the 2004 season for the Seattle Mariners that’s a lot of home runs can’t believe I’ve gone down and

Jamie moer Rabbit Hole here’s a stat Jamie Moyer never struck out more than 158 in the season and he ended his career with 2441 career strikeouts he only broke 150 that one time I don’t have one I just pull up I’ll explain another time now back to the Insiders with James ham

And Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 final segment there’s Damen Barling right there he and Kenny carway will be taking over at noon thanks everybody for hanging out this week it’s been a fun week it’s nice being in the same room I

Am so can I just can I real quick can I thank you for something I am so happy like I’m a I’m a I’m a I I like football very much I am a football guy I’m one of those dummies that every time the Niners make a roster

Move partly because of Niners wiring needing to write but every time they make like a practice squad move I look into that that player and I just have in mind like what what they can do and that way if they get come just like right now

I’m deep dive on free agency and this and that I’m just kind of a dork when it comes to that stuff but I’m also not like a football Hardo where I’m just like I need to record the combine I need to watch everything I’m going to take notes on every single thing and

I I that’s a lot I appreciate that you’re not that guy doing a show with a person who right now was like we need to do two hours of combine would be brutal no no no I and like look I love thank you I love it all thank it I appreciate that

Kyle um I do like even during NBA Combine you’re not they don’t film it the same way and they don’t they don’t not a whole production it’s usually like you know you watch a bunch of bad like three on three basketball it’s like oh

This is not good I would like to go to the combine at least once but NFL or NBA NBA okay I like to go in after the combine and look at the anthropometrics the like all the measurements the height the weight the wingspan the standing reach you know the

Like who won the the three quar court and who won the the cone drill and like I like to break all that down but like one time but then I use it a lot like when I write about players I I’m always talking about like their combine numbers

And and sort of measurements and as you know for years I mean I did I did mock drafts I think during the pandemic the one year I think I wrote 203 mock drafts for MBP but that but that context is so much different than jumping on the radio

Oh no and being like how about chop Robinson how did that help his draft stock let’s talk about it yeah no I just could not care less there were I did I did a show in San Francisco one time with this guy and here here’s the reason

I bring this up he was leading into the draft and I like the NFL draft a lot I I I really really enjoy it and the Niners not picking the first couple round the first round the last couple years was a real bummer for me personally and I had

This guy one year who came in to a weekend show with a like stack of papers oh four inches thick no and he wanted he was like wa okay here we go we can talk okay we can do first round here but I got a couple of guards in the second round

That I really like and I really want to make sure we’re we’re getting into that dog I don’t no I like the draft a lot and I don’t care yeah give me three give me three guys you like in the second round let’s talk about that yeah like

Okay that’s fine I got a couple of guards that we need to get into that we don’t need to talk guard play in the second round my guy I I was it’s almost like have you ever run a 40 like that’s what I I want to ask those people like

What was your 40 time yeah because if you don’t have a 40 time like how are you comparing that how do you know what’s fast and what’s like well because you’re comparing it against other against other guys well I know I I get that the problem is the problem with the

40 specifically thanks for bringing it up yeah I’m like hey thanks for not being combined talk guy now we’re going to talk on by of course here’s my problem with the 40 specifically that’s not a thing that happens the 40 yard dash is not a thing that happens during football games and

It certainly doesn’t happen in your underwear so okay 10 yards 10 yard burst is big for like defensive lineman because you’re in a you’re in a stance where you are crouched down and now you are going to get out into this burst oh we have to give away a king’s Jersey too

We’ll do that in a second uh but you have to like get out and burst and you go wow that guy that guy’s 10 10 yard split was crazy yes a defensive linman’s long speed I could not care less I don’t care okay I don’t you talked about Foreman stuff

Earlier Eric Crocker who uh locked on 49ers podcast does a does a great job he played had a cup of coffee in the NFL also played in the arena football league and he talks about uh when he was working out for teams before the draft

He ran a 40 at X time I forget whatever it was went and worked with a coach for like two weeks and shaved like 610 of a second off his 40 time whoa It’s not 610 shaved significant time off of his 40 yeah I think it might have been two10 he

Went from like 48 to like 46 kind of thing okay and that is just like that’s that’s that’s what I’m telling you like I what does it matter then when I was watching point of the drill I’m like hey why does that guy keep standing up out of his stance

Doesn’t make sense you just blew your 40 time like I I could tell like you blew your 40 time like and I I don’t know like and you can’t even you can’t even relay that to because you’re you’re watching defensive linemen last night you can’t even relay he stands straight

Up to oh man M that’s just how he plays then when he comes out of his stance he stands straight up which isn’t what you want on the defensive line but you can’t even do that because that’s not going and hitting an offensive lineman it’s just running a 40 yeah you can watch

Tape and find out if he plays too high so I I just the 40 specifically it is a Marvel it is so fun to watch and I love following it just casually and referencing it because when if you draft a receiver who also returned kicks in

College and then you look and he’s a 42840 like wow yeah that guy hauls do you sit there and watch it like and guess like oh that’s like a 472 yeah no that’s a 51 oh no oh while they’re running yeah while they’re running no

Because I I I got my eyes locked loed on the clock oh no I just I see it out of the corner and just no I I I’m watching I’m like uh you see do you see 46-year old Tom Brady ran a faster 40 than combine Tom Brady yeah that’s

Amazing all form yeah well that and it’s all about like preparing for that that’s you know and that’s what I think the NBA like guys just prepare I’m trying to think there was a kid that he came out of West Virginia that was like one of the greatest combined stories of all

Time went with like the 10 10th overall pick Uh Kevin White no there’s a kid name it’s Joe something um I want to say it’s like 2010 um maybe 2009 2008 2009 Obi Melon fonu No no no white kid that like in the NFL I mean the NBA draft oh NBA NBA I

Thought talking about the NFL no no no no um and I think he he was drafted by the Bucks anyway for you like you’re watching him and you’re like okay well this isn’t like none of this really translates and he really didn’t last long in the in the league but he had

Worked out so much on the drills that he was like his stats were astronomical you’re like oh that’s crazy it’s just super athlete super athlete but it didn’t translate at all um yeah I it was not it was not great but I think that that’s part of like the NBA I think

You can fool uh the draft a little bit where I don’t think you can in the NFL like the NFL teams are too smart now yeah like I don’t know it become oh Joel Alexander my bad West Virginia uh eighth pick in in 2008 and his his numbers were just

Astronomical you’re like how in the world like even like I think and he still Bamboozled teams oh yeah yeah I mean he he lasted in the league like barely at all uh yikes yeah you want to give away a Kings jersey yeah let’s do it so we’re going

To do this each month through the regular season so we’re giving away our February Jersey today we will give away our March Jersey at the beginning of April and then we’ll give away our April Jersey after the regular season finale okay we’ve gone to the wheel of names the wheel of names

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Things so make sure you’re getting in there make sure you’re listening for the keyword we’ll give it to you you enter and uh hopefully you will be a big winner in the next couple of months congratulations David D we’re proud of him Jeffy is what I’m

Calling it it is it sure is that’s right um all the I need more positive buttons I don’t have any positive because here’s all my this is completely BS well it’s not that it’s a complete crap it’s not we’re giving away jerseys Jiffy Lube said here’s King’s Jersey we

Bought you these jerseys that’s right give these away an Abomination they’re not they’re sick they’re super dope and then it’s ridiculous and we’re tired of it I’m not I want I want I would give away a freaking Jersey every week if we could yeah but we have two

More after today oh man Carlos e and David D are two are two winners so far all right all right um I think I’ve articulated my demonista bonus Point offensively offensively not offensively offensively and what I’m what I am wanting more for him from him and I think it’s offense driven more than

Domos driven but I went and looked up today the kings are paying him upwards of $40 million 43 this season no well I mean over the average annual value yeah yeah 43 something like that yep 43 and a quarter I think 43 whatever it is doesn’t matter anyways 43 and a half but

It’s really hard to win in the NBA when you are paying a player that much money and then not making him a a focal point of your scoring options when you go look at every high- paid player most of them are these like in a big spot they are the guy that you’re

Going to give the ball to to go get a bucket okay deonas sabonis has a usage rate and usage rate is the percentage of possessions that a player finishes The Possession whether it’s a turnover whether it’s a shot whatever it is free throws yep his usage rate is 21.7 it’s

Amazing that is tied with it that on nba.com you can’t sort out like non-qualifiers yeah so he comes in at 122 but there’s a bunch of non there’s a bunch of guys who played like six games in there yeah well I mean like javil McGee has a higher usage rate than deont

Savonus right right uh and again much smaller sample size so um I don’t want to say where he’s ranked but of the guys who play significant minutes around him he is tied with Kellin Johnson he is just behind Mo Vagner and he is just just ahead of Zack Collins

Wow I just need I I would like to see him score like he’s too good for that yeah I think he’s too good to be in the same breath as Zack freaking Collins I think everyone out there they they literally they heard fron vogner and Zack LaVine that’s what they heard they

Did not hear they did not hear Zack Collins they did not hear vogner and Zack LaVine would vogner they heard fron vogner fron vogner I just that that is I’ve been trying to articulate because shoot it more doesn’t that that puts the onus to me on and and I think sometimes

It is on on on domas to to shoot it when he’s open but I think it’s a function of their offense and what he does in their offense it is a dribble handoff and it’s like bro I would like him to be a scoring option maybe not all game but

That number should be higher if you’re going to be paying him 40 and a half 43 and a half million doar average over the next four years yeah I mean I get what you’re saying I think he’s I think he’s underutilized okay as a as a score but

We’re also talking about a guy who has an assist percentage at 34.8 it’s insane it is bananas I mean offensive win shares at 6.5 so here’s how okay this is kind of how I I I kind of like in my mind please I was I have a

Thing with this on Keegan coming up go ahead okay I was looking at uh at Shay gildas Alexander right his stats mhm and to me the reason why is because it feels like every single game that I look at Shay scores 31 points it’s ridiculous

And then you go and you look and it’s almost exactly the same so I he his variant on his highs and his lows are so spectacular that I I know this is like kind of a weird way to think of it but to me what sabonis is as a rebounder

Assist guy and scorer is what is as Shay is as a as just straight up a score like the rebound and is his number specifically so on the season Shay has scored 20 or more in 55 of their of of the 57 games 58 games he’s played in

Good Lord 20 or more he’s got a 19 a 17 and a seven-point game everything else uh on the season 30 points or more he’s done that 44 times whoa 44 times so the fact is that like yeah he’s gone for 40 only five times on the season but

We’re talking about a guy who’s like averaging 31 a game so his consistency every single game you’re writing down and pen that Shay gildas Alexander is going to average is going to score 30 points mhm that to me is like it’s remarkable how consistent he is but it’s

The same thing with sabonis like I don’t care that he’s not score that he’s not scoring a bunch because his variance on scoring is probably like 14 and 34 but most of them land between 17 and 22 like almost every game and then the rebounding numbers are off the charts

The bigger deal for me is in these close games or in these games where they’ve let go of the rope and it’s like man they just can’t get a bucket they can’t I would like to see them them rely on him more and I think by virtue of doing that you would see

That usage rate number creep up Kenny carway is here with the handoff Kenny if you missed it demonus sabonis has a lower usage rate than Mo Vagner and he’s just above Zack Collins I want to address that but I do want to uh talk about I want to address this issue but I

Want to do I want to say something about what you said about SJ I chuckled when you said that because I saw a stat the other day and you guys forgive me for not getting exactly right no but I think I think it said in a single

Season he has the most games of exactly 31 points in NBA history really yeah I can look that up to confirm but that sounds right yeah some it was either a single season or a career or something like that I think it’s a single season the most games have exactly 31 points it

Was like 18 games or something like that that’s crazy maybe even more I don’t know but I Che when you when you said yeah it feels like he has 31 every night like yeah it’s usually exactly 31 it’s it’s because he does have 31 every single night yeah to me it’s remarkable what

He’s the consistency that he shows but it’s the same with sabonis like sabonis is going out there and like the double double like maybe we would just say the double double compared to the score it’s every single game and and I’m not just talking about the 40 game streak or the

41 game streak he’s got like the Kings have played 57 games he’s got 53 double doubles like the consistency that he’s played with is is off the charts he hasn’t not had a double double since November 29th that’s crazy that’s crazy so so what I what I would was saying

About sabonis and the usage rating and all this other stuff is real quick yes just to confirm your Shay Guild to Alexander thing he has 11 games this season with 31 points that is the most all time just ahead of Oscar Robertson in 1961-62 he had eight Charles Barkley had

Eight of those things in 8889 he’s probably going to get another five this year too at least that record may never be broken 44 games with 30 or more that’s where he’s at that’s that’s wild he he’s the he’s the MVP if you ask me right now today he’s he’s the leader for

MVP I think he’s the guy um but sabonis in usage rate I I I don’t know exactly um if this is what you guys were talking about but like shooting more and doing more on the offensive end I feel like sabonis is doing about what you would

Want him to do maybe a shot or two more a game but if you asked them to do a little bit more I don’t think the production or the uh efficiency would be the same it’s almost like it’s almost like um if you did like a Malik monk per

36 like if he play 36 minutes he’d be averaging 29 a game well if he played 36 minutes he’d probably have more turnovers his shooting percentage would probably be lower and all this other stuff like I think when people you know um want sabonis to to shoot more I think

That might be and here’s what would happen so here’s and this may be we’ve got like four minutes and this may be a bigger discussion I’m on with you guys at 12:15 we could talk about it I’m not ready to talk about football but here’s

My here’s my here’s my thank god dude we were talking about that being hey we’re talking NFL combine today like get that out of my face no I’m just hurt um oh okay all right that’s fine I finally went back through and started listening to football podcast not there yet I

Didn’t want to sorry Chronicles not fine just keep keep downloading it that’s all I need I I do do that it downloads automatically delete um no but here’s my here’s my my question then and maybe this this is Blasphemous but this is just what I the

What I come to you then if that’s the player that he’s going to be if his offensive Effectiveness is going to be more about Distributing than scoring that’s that’s totally fine and I get it and I understand everything the impact he has that requires though then a level of

Player around him there’s a ostensibly a higher bar right of player that needs to be around him that can put the ball in the hoop yeah and I think it’s I think it makes it more difficult to find those players when you have Daren Fox is one of your

Your highest paid guys he’s a 1A I am in you have D sabonis is one of your highest paid guys and then and then what I think you got I think you got it right now to a certain degree like you could you could always get better like if they got Mike H

Bridges that’s what we always talk about like yeah he can create you know a shot and all that TY stuff but I think you got it I think I think I’m expecting expect maybe towards the end of this year but definitely next year I’m expecting keeg Murray to be that guy

I’m expecting Keegan Murray to be a 17o per game score yeah if they’re able to bring him back I expect Malik monk to be that guy late in games that you go to for baskets along with de’arra Fox I think I think they they got it for the most part I

Just those guys got to be a little bit more consistent Keegan gota um be a a little bit more assertive but I if franchise building roster building I feel like they got that I do I’m kind of I’m with you it’s just waiting for it right like we were talking earlier about

Two timelines and I’m and at this point I hate that it’s become a joke because it’s such a useful thing to say well yeah but at this point I want to merge the two timelines like it’s time it’s time for Keegan to become that guy right

Now because that’s what has to happen if this team is going to not only like make the playoffs but to like have a shot to to go he needs to be he needs to elevate right now and become that player yeah because real real quick whoever you

Bring in say you brought in Zack LaVine you’re not bringing Zack LaVine to average 26 you’re a you’re bringing Zack LaVine in to average like 19 and do it consistently every night and I think while I don’t know if he can get to 19 I think he can give you that level of

Production along with Malik Monk on a consistent basis yeah and then it’s about finding three and D guys to go alongside those guys guys who average like 12 to 14 but are defensive minded guys who hit the three ball the ironically we’ve been talking about a

Lot of like just the Perils of the combine right for teams you fall in love with a guy because he’s a super athlete and you forget that he can’t play the sport the irony of this is James you bring that up I think one of the things

The Kings need to do is over the next year or two whenever they have picks is go to the combine even for undrafted guys go to the combine and everybody who blows up the combine if they’re available be like yeah we’ll bring them in we’ll see we’ll see what happens well

I mean they he was taken with their pick Olivier Maxwell Prosper that’s that’s one of the combine guys that was just unbelievable with all the measurements and everything they traded that pick he hasn’t played by the way no oh good he’s not there yet good screw

Him uh are you do you in a playin match up Kenny real quick we have like 40 seconds m in a play in matchup do you fear the Lakers are warriors more because you like everybody’s on board that that’s just what’s happening right we’re just there’s no way that we’re

Going to avoid because there’s we got to make sure that this is H as possible I think they could still I understand what you guys are saying I think they can still get to six it’s just me I don’t know where James I understand understand what you’re saying um I probably

Probably the Warriors because of Steph Curry okay like show that’s ridiculous I don’t know where that came from they’re both playing well though either team it’s tough yeah no doubt I’m with you though you win six in a row you’re uh you’re in a really good spot

And the Kings uh are in a in a soft part of their schedule I think they can do that okay we got to go uh I’m on with DLo and Casey at 1215 we got a ton of stuff coming up with them talking Kings Thanks James we’ll see you guys next

Time all right I gotta bounce guys see you I got to bounce to the other seats see you guys that’s playing in my ears you’re welcome they had a full breakfast spread today huh still oh God yeah we we had Charlie storm in we were doing a bit about how we were

Getting left out in the cold yeah it’s like we feel like deal in KC now oh yeah it happens there’s just stuff happening that we don’t get to be part of it happens yeah well you guys are never a part of Comm that’s so nice I’ve never been to

One good lucky you I don’t even know what they mean yeah they’re not yeah they’re fine you’re not missing anything no I didn’t think so maybe I should put my laptop in my bag first before I e anyone want to film me in about what the [ __ ] been going on in the

Chat forgot chesse it anyone want to fill me in what’s been going on in the chat figh being disrespectful anyone want to fill me in so this is what we’re going to do all right all right all right my guy see you three Hammer got us all set up

Here see we’re already set up here I’m trying I’m trying to remember it’s all right Aldren Jay if you’re watching I’m trying to figure it out Drew down what you know about Craig David hey I see you Ley tell them I sent you Ley out there

Making moves though you a see Ley what he doing Ley had Jasmine’s uh cyber truck with him last night wow Mr a shoot K yeah yeah we got him screaming Dow K KC KC we got him screaming KC KC we a number one spot we a number one spot for some sports huh got the city going crazy when we work huh we top two but we ain’t to we in first huh and when

You need the real we is who you search h d KC D KC K we your number one spot here baby it’s Friday come on man let him come on man one more what’s all the way good welcome into the Friday March 1 Edition March 1 of Dow and Casey remember even though it’s March 1st black history is 365 days a

Year I’ll never forget that as is women’s history because I believe that’s what they celebra in today you could celebrate that uh every day or I should say that’s what they celebrate here in March uh we’re happy that you’re here with us man we got a loaded show for you

Uh Kyle matson’s going to be with us uh in a couple of minutes Chris Beerman will be with us will Z James ham we got Kings and Timberwolves tonight uh we’ll talk about everything that happened uh in the association last night uh I’ll say this I’m going to choose my words

Carefully because I’m a professional Draymond Green is a jackass uh Bon is our dude he stay our dude and Draymond is everything I’ve ever said he is publicly and Draymond is everything I’ve ever said he is privately he is the most insecure little man that ever existed his feelings were hurt because Bon

Didn’t praise his ass the way he didn’t enable his ass the way the rest of these Golden State Warriors do the way that Steve cerr has the way that Steph Curry has the way that uh uh Joe Lup and Bob Myers and the way that the rest of those

Guys have they did he didn’t coddle him and he didn’t uh uh enable him the same way the rest of them those dudes did when he was suspended the flagship radio station that covers that basketball team covered that man fairly never caught him outside of his name never said anything

Childish about him said his act is old and it’s tired and clearly by draymond’s interaction with Bon last night he was in his feelings over that because for 10 or 11 years however long the dude’s been in the league he’s been enabled and this is what happens when someone doesn’t

Fall in line with everybody else when someone speaks the truth that’s what Bon did he spoke the truth about Draymond Green’s behavior and draymond’s in his feelings about it and all that little clip what Draymond Green did to me last night was proof he is every bit is insec

As I said he is he latches himself onto Steph Curry he latches himself onto LeBron James because he is insecure with who he is as a basketball player he’s insecure with who he is as a man he begs for Hall of Fame candidacies and he begs

For bats and he begs for all of this stuff publicly he gives 45 minute answers when a 60-second answer would do because he wants to cuddle his his his boss Colin card at the other network that he does he thinks he’s new me media he’s not he’s insecure and he’s played

He’s every insecure professional athlete in history he’s just been more enabled than everybody else shout out to our brother Bon bro you had it at like you handled it like a pro you got a job at NBC California that is completely separate from your job at 957 the game

You handled that like a pro Bonte salute yeah man Draymond kiss my ass so salute same thing I’m a salute to my man Bon Hill man he handled that like a pro um handled it with class Draymond Green that was a joke that was embarrassing this guy everything like you just laid

Out he’s a master manipulator and he he’s he’s the the master of if you don’t fall in line to praise him then he’s got a problem with you talk about it and I say that also also saying who the hell are you Draymond Green who are you like like I I

Don’t I don’t I don’t mean to disrespect the man’s career and what he’s achieved in his career and all this other stuff but we got to call it spade a spade I know he not GNA like that but we got to call a spade a spade you were carried

For all of those championships you’re being carried right now nobody nobody in the history of the game grows up wanting to be Draymond Green they want to be Steph Curry they want to be Klay Thompson they want to be Kevin Durant nobody’s thinking about being Draymond Green now when you you have Draymond

Greens on your on your team it really does help it helps out I’m not disputing that at all but everybody that ends up being a Draymond Green is because they’re not talented enough to be Kevin Durant Klay Thompson and Steph Curry so to survive they do

What they have to do and that’s what Draymond Green has done he’s not talented enough to be the Top Flight guy on a team so he had to attach himself to all these guys on his team and then like I said when you talk about a master manipulator the way he’s attached

Himself to certain guys around the league IE LeBron James and he rides his coils and he try he tries to be like LeBron’s best friend but LeBron’s like you’re not my best friend like we’re cool like we’re good you can come hang out but don’t make it like you’re my

Best friend because you’re not you try to be my best friend I don’t know what you got going on but you’re not LeBron’s best friend and like I said the people in the media the Marcus Thompson the Anthony Slaters the Tim C comies all these guys he continues to always try to

Be a master manipulator master manipulator I won’t fall for it I don’t buy into all that stuff I think the way he behaves is clown Behavior more times than not and he showed his ass last night like you talk about being insecure and and and not being able to take criticism like I

Started saying who the hell are you not to be able to take criticism for something you did you’re the one that got suspended you’re the one that kept punching people and choking people nobody nobody made you do that nobody did anything injust to you if you wouldn’t have behaved like

A jackass we wouldn’t be talking about any of this Bon and everybody else wouldn’t have anything to say if you would behave like a normal human being but because you don’t because you’re an unhinged individual who’s not in control of their emotions people have to talk about this

And you want to act above being criticized and being and being uh talked about as if you’re you’re hurting your team you want to act above that Draymond Green once that Steph Curry no nobody really is above that but Steph Curry maybe you could say he’s above Kevin

Durant maybe you could say Klay Thompson is struggling this year he deserves a pass for everything he’s done in his career drayan green is acting like he’s above criticism bro you’re just an average player that that’s like that’s like uh that’s like smush Parker acting like he’s above being being criticized or

Talked about bro you’re you’re a non-descript player in this league you’re a non-descript player you’re not one of them Superstars you do not get that kind of caveat so if you do something stupid like you’ve been doing for the past seven years of your career yes we’re gonna talk about it yes you

Deserve to get criticized this is what happens when you enable somebody for so long uh and I made the mistake this is e me because I’m not a professional I assumed everybody knows what we’re talking about uh for those that don’t here’s Draymond Green with the crew over at NBC Sports

Bay Area led by Our Man Bon Hill uh of course who host the morning roast at 957 the game uh in San Francisco uh following the game against the New York Knicks Jesse let’s run this real quickon here and first of all let’s start about let’s talk about MSG what is

It like shocked you talking to me the way you was talking about me when I got suspended I am very shocked you’re talking to me really really really go ahead though yeah go ahead tell me about planet MSG you guys go there once a year there’s a lot of Warrior fans out there

Uh describe the energy out there at MSG it’s always fun game d what’s going on man dude is trash dude is trash I’m very surprised you’re talking to me see this is why Bon is a professional cuz I would have said bro I didn’t have the

Choice I didn’t ask for you if Steph’s available have hand the headphones to Steph he hit three threes to start the game hand it to pods you’re there give it to give it to DLo man pods give it to him you they they gave us you look I

Didn’t ask to speak with you that’s why Bon is a professional that’s why Bon’s on TV and that’s why I’m always gonna be here because I would have popped off I don’t want to talk to you bro I think you’re ass but I don’t have a choice

Because this is NBC Sports Bay Area so you want to talk about MSG or you want to be a jackass clearly he wanted to be a jackass and again salute to Bonte handled it perfectly handled it perfectly and Russell hunt and and I know Russell probably doesn’t mean

Anything by this but this is the problem he says who’s more of a jack ass Draymond Green or Aaron Rogers and I say I say to this that’s that’s the wrong category to even mention Draymond Green in Aaron Rodgers for whatever you feel about him is one of the great players in

The history of the NFL he’s one of the great players in the history of sports in modern sports so him being a jackass yes he’s a jackass but that that’s like saying who who’s a a bigger jackass um Grayson Allen or Aaron Rodgers they’re they’re not the same oh I got one

They’re never even gonna be close to the same who’s the bigger jackass Draymond Green or Hassan whide yes that’s a little bit more where we need to be at shot whide he Ain like that’s the that’s the whole thing but see that’s the problem Draymond thinks he’s Aaron Rodgers bro no you’re Pat

Bev you’re Pat Bev you’re lucky somebody wants to to hear what you got to say after a game most people don’t just for the record that that’s the problem Aaron talking about like when we talk about jackasses and and and greats we’re talking like Favre and Rogers right like

That that’s what we’re talking like on that level like those are great all time great players who are jackasses there’s a players like Draymond Green who are who are average players and there are jackasses those come a dime a dozen you see those guys you see those guys once a

Year in sports every a new one pops up like what Jay-Z say every day A Star is Born he he’s like no no no but that’s the problem he thinks he’s Aaron Rogers no you’re not bro you’re not you’re an average ass player at best at

Best uh we’ll come back uh that’s how we were going to start that’s always how we were going to start but um more importantly to what we’re going to do today uh Sacramento Kings take on the Minnesota Timberwolves uh Warriors get a win last night they’re one of the

Hottest teams in the league right now Lakers get a win last night Suns get a win last night we’ll talk about what that means for the Western Conference was not a good night at all absolutely not a good night at all and it could get worse tonight uh we’ll talk to our man

Kyle Matson here when de with Casey returned on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 if he get S to the king I don’t I have no desire to talk to his ass I don’t need to talk what do I need to talk to him for no disres respect I’d

Rather talk to Mason Jones at least Mason Jones has a an interesting story or something like that I don’t what do I need to talk to Draymond Green for I don’t need to hear [ __ ] from Draymond Green I don’t I don’t need to talk I I

Don’t ever need to talk to him ever in life that guy he is he is not entertaining um he is not interesting and I I just don’t like being around jackasses so for those three reasons I don’t I don’t need to talk to Draymond Green ever in

Life no it’s not on streamyard it’s on uh the Youtube um it’s like in the customization Community tab but aldrin’s not in there so I don’t know may maybe maybe maybe aldrin’s just not here today but I I don’t Warren sent me a text I’m oh somebody got they was doing some

Blocking stuff and all this other stuff there’s seven [ __ ] Brad Clayton profiles in here dude that guy good goodness gracious I mean salute for his desire to listen to this show and just create another profile with the same picture and the same [Laughter] name you’re not wrong yeah was my bad I

Apologize that’s my bad sorry to Hanan wi I can’t lie even I pck my head up like oh that wasn’t nice yeah that was what are you saying F me for yeah that’s my bad s sorry sorry sorry there goes P1 Hassan Whit ey sorry bro I was

Completely uncalled for my sincer to bother that man ain’t bothered nobody uh oops almost blocked you Michigan didn’t mean to just trying to click on your comment um no it’s not a musine okay Kyle will be in in a second that’s what I was told um well shout out Ry other people

Catching Strays too what Ry do no Ry just somebody somebody else in the chat got a stray I even I Ain gonna say it man we’ve had a long week with him oh I saw that message too I don’t know what he’s what the message pertaining to but I saw

That well wait a minute I didn’t see it just Conta like you know like we don’t have to say you know do I know you always know send it in Benny Benny was out here man I’ll send it in a group chat I’ll send it in a group chat damn it Rody

Well no Rody didn’t do anything Rody just like oh no people out here catching Strays I see it all right all right settle down everybody relax was a Str R just move on all right Rody enough we need to Friday VI Friday Vibes this up a

Little bit I didn’t even step in the building yet before the chat had gotten on my nerves if anybody could find Aldren Jay goddamn it send him back to the YouTube stream damn that’s crazy bro Kyle madson’s here come on man don’t be doing that hi Kyle Kyle in the house I like

That uh that crew neck man thanks man what what is that I don’t want to say okay no it’s fine it’s uh the K-Pop group I really like this is their production group they make all their own music and the three kids that make the music make are those uh say the three

Guys they’re called stra are the are the um adults what what’s the name of the the guys are they K-pop they’re like the most I don’t know if they still are but yeah they’re like the most famous group in the world yeah they’re that’s K-pop yes okay this is not being are they

Still the most famous group in the world or they kind of the they’ve got a bunch of guys in the military right now because there’s mandatory military service in Korea so they’ve had their group a bunch of them have gone solo as they’ve gone into the military and go through that so yeah

Yeah I don’t I don’t know any of their songs but I I know that you do you’ve heard a couple of them on the radio what radio oh I guess so H not not my radio not your radio never mind I haven’t ever heard him either because I only listen

To 1025 that was good 1320 that was good good even I yeah noon to seven noon to seven I’m just um all dowlo and Casey all the time uh the only reason I really know him though is because they were on New Year’s Rocking Eve like a couple

Years ago for sure yeah scale from one to 10 how worried are you about the Kings uh what do you mean by worried like that they that they’re going to miss the playoffs no well yeah that they’ll miss the play play offs through the play in

Like I don’t think they’re falling to 11 that is catastrophic Top’s about set the top 10 is not only do I do I think the Kings wouldn’t lose that many games the Jazz are going the wrong way Houston’s going the wrong way yeah yeah yeah they’re so so they so worried that

They are in the plane and losing the plane yeah worried worried I guess play are probably pretty close to 50-50 so worried that this this season is going to turn into a CU I I think I know I know people oh I think most people losing in the first

Round you know unless there’s some crazy context to it where they’re playing uh Minnesota but you know Rudy Ant-Man in in Carl Anthony towns get kidnapped and you’re playing some other version of the timberl and you lose to that team okay well that’s a problem other than that like I feel like

All right the Kings losing the first round that that that sucks you losing first round series I do think missing the Playoffs especially with the uh the concerns over that draft pick like everything that that hangs on that draic I do think that’s going to leave a

Lot of Kings fans really really deflated headed into the off season yeah well because if you miss the playoffs now you’re rethinking your roster in basically outside of domas and fox and and Keegan and you’re rethinking everything and you don’t have any means you don’t have any real means and I’ll

Let James explain later but basically they miss the playoffs they don’t have the means to make substantial moves because of their draft pick still being tied up in the future yeah so that that’s why that’s such a concern but I’m at like a like a like a three can now in

Terms of concern nice can I add one one thing to that real quick four five maybe five oh my that escalated quickly yeah keep going no I was just gonna wait to see if you were going to just add more six okay good that’s good that’s good

Um what if you talk about rethinking the whole roster what if in this scenario that we’re talking about they get there by finishing with 47 wins that’s one less than last year so they basically did exactly the same except the conference was different well right the conference

Is more along the lines of what the conference normally looks like 48 wins in 20 let’s see last year was 23 which means the year before that was 22 so in 22 thank you 48 wins would have tied you for the six seed with Denver

Okay like so so 47 wins being the play like that that basically means two years in a row they were a fringe playoff team and that to me says at that point you have to tweak your roster in in a in a more significant way than adding Chris tote and jav McGee you

Know so um I don’t think the amount of wins is necessarily the problem it’s does this formula with these players work and that maybe that may be a question for no disagreement that may be a question for them regardless of what what happens to the play yeah I think it

Is I definitely think it is yeah I mean it’s it’s time to figure out where regardless of what happens where you can improve yeah you know I I don’t think I don’t think that this group is coming back regardless of what happened like and what I mean by that is this group

Coming back they say they get into the playoffs they win a first round series get to the second round I still think you’re looking at this roster like all right how do we how do we get better where position and Ma major position I’m talking about one of the starters what

Position do we need to upgrade or change to get better so um yeah I think it’s really clear I think it’s very very clear too I and that’s that’s a I don’t I think it’s pretty black and white kind of how this needs to go what it’s I I agree and it’s

Also it’s your only move yeah and you can I didn’t mean interrupt you you can say what you were thinking was black and white no they’re just you know who on this team is is capable of being on a championship roster you know who’s not

At least in my in my mind having having the current roles that they have on a on a championship roster anyway you want to say you want to name him I don’t think Kevin herder is a starter on a championship team it’s a starter who who has as

Substantial of a role as he does I also think the same thing about Harrison Parts I think Mike feel uh I think Mike feels that way about Kevin I don’t think he feels that way about Harrison can you til your camera a little bit it’s just I really like how

It is it’s artistic I need more Kyle mson and it looks like you’re hitting the gangster lean you can that got me feeling you can hit the lean no as you should if you just turn your monitor that way you could you could hit the

Lane pretty tough there we go oh I feel good I feel good about this yeah have I tested out the the Collins wereth slide in on this pause on this uh on this program no wave it off W off they’re gonna uh introduce me like no that’s good

Ladies and gentlemen from uh the Insiders as well as Candlestick Chronicles uh and Niners wire.com ladies and gentlemen Kyle Matson hey how’s it going guys that’s very good you like that see okay but I’m I’m gonna my partner I got it that’s not how it how

The setup goes oh I’m sorry it goes more like so so come come back this is good this is great I’m sure ESPN Odyssey up no they’re enjoying this this is good then you you’ve got a king’s team tonight Kyle that is playing a Timberwolves team that is really looking

To sew up that one seed thanks Kenny and and you talk about this Timberwolf scene now now Anthony Edwards now here’s a guy this show is just turned into a circus of Impressions like I I don’t know I don’t have I done my have I done

My Mitch in New Jersey for you guys yet oh please by shout out shout out Drew down he sent me a clip with Mitch was on with our man JD they let him back on John Dickinson in the Warriors post game there we go they let him back on have audio of that

I I need to hear it I whenever I’m ready for this audio that now yeah yeah hey uh hey hey JD it’s m New Jersey yeah I just wanted to talk about the Warriors I think uh I think that that that Brian that Brian ponamsky guy I I think he’s

He’s going to be a pretty good player and I think if if maybe if if you send if if Steve Curry one day wants to wants to retire I think I think Brandon I think Brian ponamsky could could could be the next Steph Curry how’s retirement treating you

Mitch over time you know retire retirement is going okay I get to I get to watch a lot a lot of Kings I like that DeAndre like that DeAndre Fox that’s really good that’s really really good that’s really good shout out to our man Mitch New Jersey

Yeah man shout out Mitch New Jersey AKA tarzanna Mitch I’m not gonna say his name but I’ll tell you his initials OJ OJ OJ OJs OJ s Mitch call today oh we’d love to hear from Mitch today that’s that’s that’s good that’s a winner if he’s even

Listening to us we don’t know if we never never just kind of we’re never quite clear if Mitch actually listens to so at my I was at the station when I was in the miners here right Mitch would call the show I was like wow this guy must love Sacramento

He dialed in from New Jersey he just loves his KS and then I went to 957 I get there pick up the phone yeah it’s Mitch New Jersey what M Mitch you do this too are you falling and somebody’s like oh he’s he can’t come on our station oh he

Doesn’t he’s not allowed L that is not allowed I was like I like massive L I was like all right you got it I guess that’s the rule then but that’s kind of wild image and then I come here and I’m sitting in that studio one day doing my

Sh doing my work after the show and Jesse picks up and he goes 11 whoa It’s because I was just talking about it uh he goes he goes he goes ESPN 1320 funny I did that on my show one day on my show answering theone brutal fine

No it happens I was listening actually it was wonderful Dude um so I I he Jesse picks up the phone and he goes 1320 yeah hey Mitch what do you want to talk about all right I go is that Mitch in New Jersey and he’s like yeah he calls all

The time it’s like what just gets Mitch gets around Mitch is a Hall of Famer love Mitch here in Northern California and he lives in I’m big Mitch guy it’s not really the minor leagues over there it’s more like the AFL more like that damn the alliance of

American damn football is that even in existence anymore oh Tik Tock no that’s not oh wow wow don’t do that wow don’t do that that’s crazy once again we got people we know and love over there yeah yeah we do love them like them like them tolerate

Them varying degrees of love and he knows who he is he’s listening right now he’s gonna send us a tweet in like two seconds I got I gotta love for everybody over there just keep it a stack I get with everybody see some of them gonna make me tweet the ratings though based

On some stuff Kyle sent me today I’m I’m G have to send out the the little see why they do this I don’t know I don’t know why they talking we why what let me know are you no I I could just I could sh so so oh no let PowerPoint no no

So should I talk about Draymond Green Qui you guys see this bar this bar bars is us this bar is them that’s that’s wild that’s just that’s just men 13 plus here’s another one this bar this bar is us so if you’re listening on the radio

You’re just going to have to go back and and and and and and then this far as them no this is an improvement they hey 18 to 34 man they’re do they’re doing a great job well oh no now this is crazy now this is called the money

Demographic this this big scary bar this is us this little tiny bar right here I’m I’ll move it closer so you guys can see it why did they say anything did they say something called it’s right there they I think it’s egregious why they have to do this is a top 10 station

This is a top 22 station oh we talking about in the city hey just for fun here’s one more right here right here so the next time someone tweets what they doing just remember this right here oh man come on man you all see this is this see don’t

And don’t don’t look at me see that I’m GNA put you up on screen too no you know what you guys are no I’m going to tell you all I’m tell you something all three of you I didn’t do nothing nope that’s that’s Joe Lup that’s Steph

Curry and that’s Bob Myers in there but y’all are enablers because what you do is you send me tweets you send me little screenshots you send me things that you know are gonna piss me off and I’m going to react to and I feel like y’all meet I

Feel like y’all got a group chat hey gonna send I thought I thought we were gonna have a good chuckle I didn’t know we were gonna bu I didn’t know we drop a h enablers i mean that’s the theme of today keeping you updated on the latest and greatest in Sacramento

Yeah I like D I like d man he I mean all right man first time I paid attention in class in a while though like oh I get bar look I like him that’s why I when he when he had the the drink I didn’t say nothing I didn’t say

Nothing because I I like I like my man I ain’t say nothing why he keep doing this stuff I don’t know man fine no it’s fine no it’s fine can we go back to the Bon and Draymond video happy Friday everybody hey hey defend your boy I thought bante did a

Great job not bante not Bon def no I was so I was gonna sit down and do that as a bit I was telling Jesse I was like hey what I’m gonna go in there and be like I don’t think it’s that bad uh no but you

Can’t you can’t it’s not it’s not like like Draymond had was this great player and had one bad game and Bon jumped on the radio and talked about he was trash and this and that and there’s like you you I this is not an extensive list this

Is just the most recent you you chok you put a player in a choke hold and D him dragged him across the the basketball court and then you you smacked a player upside his head and you got suspended from your team for he got suspended for

For more games than you can miss and be eligible for awards that’s insane that’s so many games and I I I the idea that now and I the idea that now you’re going to jump on TV and because you finally had a a game worthy of being interviewed

Postgame and this is the first time you’ve gotten to talk to talk to Bonte and go wow I’m surprised you wanted talk to me the way you were but no it’s fine no it’s fine go ahead that’s just like man and I’m a bit unclear if it’s actually the first time they

Talked it probably is I think it is yeah it probably like I just read a text we got because I don’t I don’t think it is sorry not us collectively I I don’t know why I’m pretending I was I obviously text Bon as soon as I saw the clip from

Kyle like yo hey you handled that like a pro man that was trash but yeah I had a a a a a me and Bon text yeah no yeah okay so I’m sorry he sent this to me I said hey you handled it like a pro I

Said what I said about uh uh Draymond and then he said we just interviewed him two weeks ago so he was for what trying to do it for the doing a little show all this other stuff come on man all this all this other clown Behavior that’s draymond’s MSG moment you Michael going

For 60 you got Steph with his 54 and you got Draymond trying to dunk on vonte good for him man and it’s it’s like it’s like y so you talked about like first time like he’s had a he’s had a game that allows him to be on the post game

Um number one this probably because the real ballers in that game were talking to TNT yeah step say like that’s one reason why they were talking the real Ballers were out there talking to TNT number two look man you had you had seven points 10 rebounds six

Assists you know what we would say about Damonte sabonis if he had a game like that we had we had a a show the next day yeah wouldn’t be good yeah clowning this dud we’ be clowning sabon well we wouldn’t be clown but people around the the city around the nation would be

Clowning this dude sabonis for having a game like this and this guy thinks he can tough talk tough after having that type of game bro that’s why I said earlier bro you like who are you you play defense Smo Parker was nuts that was crazy Smo Parker that’s crazy he’s

Definitely Smo Parker is that’s great he he’s a he’s he’s a good Defender he’s a good Defender okay he was a a really good Defender at one point but that’s long gone he’s really a hack now how many times how many times smack the hell out of Dante chinzo

Yesterday my count was up to three beat the crap out of Dante was my favorite player yesterday he was going through it in the first half he was so frustrated he just he hit those two free throws or three free throws whatever it was I think he hit two of the three free

Throws at the end of that miss the first just left just just just just just put the shot up walk straight to the tunnel like I want no part of this man is in Madison Square guard national television has to have a tissue stuffed up his nose

U and he had been cooking there for a little bit too and it’s funny I don’t know how much of the rest of the game you got to see the game was basically the same the whole like it never like fluctuated War up a bunch Nicks cut it

To six Warriors get it to 15 Nick cut it to eight Warriors the whole game the whole time the the the biggest thing with Draymond Green is like the great Lavar ball once said stay in your lane you trying to talk like you one of them

Ones and you’re not like if you if you would stay in your lane and just be a a hard work a try hard type player nobody would say anything about you in any way but when you when you get out of your lane and you try to talk like you’re

Him that’s when we gotta remind you you’re not him like stop talking like that you’re not him you’re not one of those guys yeah and that’s that’s the whole thing if he I promise you that’s what we haven’t said anything about Draymond in weeks because he stayed in

His Lane he ain’t done nothing out of the just stay in his Lane I’m back I’m putting my head down working hard he did have a very awkward video that we got wind of the vid the video I’m I’m not reenacting that video yo you know what video I’m talking about

The Draymond Green video which where he he was doing the the the side language well that was another case of him not staying in his Lane PA George is 10 times a player you are I don’t care about no rings that you got off the coattails of KD Stephen Clay shut your mouth

Paul George there’s people there’s people Kion Anthony is out here talking about uh Paul George is the goat over his dad Carmello ain’t nobody saying that about Draymond no your damn role you are not Paul George kids draymond’s kids can’t even find him hey Dad you’re

In the man cave I mean that’s a shoot no your Ro don’t don’t tell once again it’s like Pat Bev it’s like Smo Parker trying to talk to the gods don’t do that don’t do that the thing that sucks is I feel like he has smart things

To say when he’s not being mean I don’t think he’s that smart to be honest smart but I I think he is but I think he get fo he talks a lot no no but when he talks like last night he talks about Jonathan kaminga and he’s like Jonathan

Kaminga he goes people talk about me coming back Jonathan kaminga being as good as he’s been is the reason that we’ve been winning that’s not smart no but it is that’s looking at the way like any any doofus can see that well but if he’s a doofus if if you’re a doofus

You’re Going what people do this all the time I’m not gonna I’m not gonna call anybody else out people do this all the time where you they you go wow look at since Draymond Green came back what are we are we going back to the [Laughter] doof Draymond everyone else I’m sor go

Wow since Draymond came back look at their defense and it’s like yeah because of kaminga and I I respect that he’s capable of doing what you’re talking about where it’s hey this is not me like this is all these other guys but then he goes and hauls off and goes I’m

Surprised you’re trying to talk to me the way you’re talking about me when I got suspended for the second time this year because I smacked somebody in the fa like man like that’s just I don’t just but here but this is the conundrum I’ve had since the Danny and San

Francisco days when this whole thing started and not saying that you said this but Draymond will go on the on the podium and say man really you know kaminga the way he’s played has really helped us you know Elevate our game as a team oh man that basketball IQ of

Draymond oh boy I’m telling you that’s the smarts that’s the smarts that you just can’t get anywhere else what are we talking about every that is not earth shattering stuff you’re more tuned in I think than either one of us are didn’t they make the switch with

Clay after Draymond came back yes isn’t that significantly more uh important to what they’re doing right now than Draymond Green’s return yeah kaminga playing better Moses Moody being as good as he was last night probably a list of things well yeah pods has been been excellent like draymond’s like you said

Kenny he’s he’s good but he’s not oh wow the Warriors are playing so much better because draymond’s back no they’re just they they’re playing their young guys and they’re playing well and and the sad thing about this Kyle is it does help that he’s back yeah no doubt it just

Doesn’t it people just don’t need to jump out the window and be like Oh since Dray right it can’t just this always Daman canest to this this has always been my thing with Draymond not that I hate him or I think that uh he’s not effective at all it’s just taking it

Over the moon it’s not enough to just say man Draymond being back along with pods and everything has really helped this team it’s like well since Draymond has come back it’s changed everything no stop stop that’s why I have to that’s I have to mute the broadcast that’s one broadcast I’ll

Never watch it’s about been about 12 minutes are you at a seven yet concern did your concern actually you know what surprisingly five and a half five and a half let’s go good I just here’s what here’s here’s why I think dear and fox in a playin situation gives the Kings a

Very very good chance particularly to beat a a team like Golden State who is either old or inexperienced but I mean you have Steph Curry I don’t want to sit through another one of those gamesi and honestly I wouldn’t I wouldn’t probably feel great about Sacramento in that in that particular

Game but if you told me if you if you are Genie from the future and you go hey Sacramento beats the Warriors in the 78 playing game like oh okay like I I buy that Dar must had a huge game at that that makes sense to me um and I and I

Think the same thing about about the Lakers uh and I and I I like their match up with the Mavericks so I I don’t I’m not terrified that like oh my God I don’t know how they if they’re in the plan I don’t know how they win I that

Would be like panicking to me but on the other hand I sit legitimately like like five or six because I need to see something over these next what is it 2 five games should be a 24 24 games over these next 24 games that not really seen

This year to be that confident in them I think I’m anchoring to last year like I know what they can be I know what they’ve been at their best this year uh but getting that consistently is a is a giant giant question mark That’s concerning that’s that’s that’s

Concerning for sure uh not six and a quarter boy W talking about he’s worked himself into a shoe is that what it is that’s is exactly what it is I’m going to storm in Monday just randomly like I’m to 10 guys uh well you’ll be back with us uh

On Monday at 10:00 a.m. and your partner on canas state Chronicles who’s in Minnesota right now uh covering the Sacramento Kings will be with us coming up in about 30 minutes we’ll talk more uh about what the Western Conference looks like here uh with the Sacramento Kings is D and Casey continue on

Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 yes please yes okay good you got Beerman yeah good booking smart what what did what did Stern say what was the uh you got burkel remember was was that what he said remember when everything was going on and they and KJ was like yeah we got Ron

Burkel and St was like you got Burl yeah you got B you got Beerman big shout out to Kyle Matson because Kyle is the Warriors fan that just takes the brunt of all our Warriors hate and Draymond hate and he just does it with a smile I appreciate you Kyle

Because I get it like I get I understand I I know that the Warriors Kings fan interaction last year was really bad um but I I’m I don’t know I’m just not [ __ ] delusional no you’re not they’re just they’re I don’t know you’re the man that’s what you

Are a man KY just watches Hoops he’s like us just watch his Hoops like watching hoop bro watch his Hoops dude I got I get a fubo TV subscription through the NFL wires right yeah so they so because we have so many people out of Market it’s like hey if you need to

Watch got all this and and they use that USA Today uses that uh partnership with fubo for their NBA sites other s so it’s just loaded with all I got league pass I got all this just for and I didn’t know that until this year I was like maybe my

Fubo will have NBC Sports California on it yeah but I’m like out of market so I don’t know if it works and then I go to look on one of the first couple nights of the NBA and just all the NBA games are out there I was like this is great

So they they work like you could watch the Timberwolves version of the Kings or do they black it out uh no I get the home broadcast or no I get the Kings broadcast okay I would love that not because I don’t like uh drapes Mark and Katie but sometime I just like hearing

Other perspectives on yeah oh yeah for sure what somebody how somebody else sees your team oh apprciate let’s go into the yeah yeah but um I W never listen to The Warriors broadcast I know that much so it’s so dude I don’t need to well have

Getting leag fast and I’ll be trying to watch the Warriors game they send me to that one I’m like up no up give me the Blazers broadcast please when they’re on uh when they’re on the East Coast their games you know start four o’clock or whatever and so I’m usually working out

Like during their games and so I have to have the I have to have the sound on and it’s just but I mean I guess they do what you supposed to do theide side of maybe you I mean Warriors fans seem to love them they do they do their job I feel like

It’s a bit I I feel like it’s kind of a bit Warriors no people who love Fitz I think everybody’s kind of in on it like Fitz is a nice guy like I’ve had nothing but good interactions with him but it’s like man it’s just a lot when he when

He because he would come on the radio you know a lot back in the day yeah yeah the only time I really wouldn’t like hearing him is when he talked about the Warriors everything else was just like yeah yeah it didn’t really bother me that much but the warrior stuff was

Crazy I was like this dude the wildest thing was he’s a he’s a Notre Dame guy right he went to Notre Dame the day the mantio story broke not a word of it on Vitz of Brooks not a word well I know what everybody wants to hear today and we’re not gonna talk

About it we’re gonna talk instead about Randy Moss going to the Raiders on Madden that so much later than all right guys apprciate have a good weekend my man Kyle maton ladies and gentlemen we just brought it we had a Manti Tao reference did you ever see the

What was it like the the Netflix show I think it’s called they do a good job with those UNT tolds it was very good um I never seen it are you oh you should watch it it’s good no I think I will I just hadn’t got around but you know what I will

Watch I’m I’m the return a BMF definitely gonna watch that but uh you see what Hulu threw the preview out for I didn’t that freak Nick to boy oh boy some people are going to be sweating watching that one there’s going to be some 45 year olds really really

Concerned oh man I can’t I I really want to see I cannot believe that happened cannot imagine they tried to recreate it I think like five years ago that is that is a a Swift no we’re not recreating that for those familiar with freaknick Google it not on a work computer just

Google it yeah that is that canot be recreated but yeah I didn’t know that was coming I I did think that I think I felt bad for Manti ta I always kind of felt bad for Manti Tao and that that that I couldn’t believe that happened

It’s so I I mean I had a lot of questions like as it was happening it was something I couldn’t like comprehend like H how yeah I just don’t know I don’t know how that happen I still have question I still am so curious how something like

That happens but I I don’t you know I’m not judging I you I did walk away feeling uh some sympathy from antita because obviously his name is a is a punchline do you think uh yeah I think I know where you’re going to say with this do you

Think that would have been as big of a situation if he went to Mississippi State uh no no I don’t think it would have part of it was the success of that team and him he was a Heisman yeah like he yeah I don’t know if he’d be a

Heisman candidate if he was at Miss right no exact yeah exactly like I’m trying to put the two together and that’s probably not it’s probably not gonna happen it’s probably not gonna happen to the league though good for him got to the league he play play for a bit

Five or six years yeah I think I mean six is the magic number right I think he made it to six yeah salute I know he’s out there doing good work man so good for him um we mentioned this a minute ago it’s probably worth repeating in case he got

Buried in some of the silliness of our conversation with Dr David come on Kyle Matson which got a little bit out of control it’s my bad shout out to secur and de Bagley King MD proor and and Dr David who who who who got the memes cooking that’s good J David

Sh good man come on man yep I got you I you’re right Twitter’s a terrible Place well see then that’s the one thing about Twitter is like Dr David makes me laugh Dr David is funny as Kier Saran de bagley’s funny um actually Saran de Bagley is a good basketball follow too

That’s I don’t know he’s securing the Bagley yeah he needs to he’s well he went back to securing to baggley he was securing the bean might changed Bagley now so no yeah no he’s he’s beaming but he’s securing to baggley on Twitter he’s a good basketball follower follow shout

Out securing bag I don’t think I follow secure in the back I’m gon follow him right now uh did we say we got the link over to to Beerman yeah I sent that earlier follow Friday what’s that said follow Friday okay remember giving shout outs on Twitter yeah follow Friday that’s how a

Lot of people got their uh their followers up they put like they they put like seven to 10 people in a comment be like follow Friday and people would just follow from that list okay back in the early Twitter days I never uh participated which is why my Twitter

Follower count is so low no Bots no I think you’re I don’t think your Twitter follower account is low I don’t think you’ve purchased followers well there’s that people do that [Laughter] what you can’t do is purchase listeners you could purchase followers you can purchase subscribers right but you can’t actually

Purchase listeners hey the crazy thing is we a even gotten to like views well where something new every day every day every day my man every day we mentioned this is g to be a day and you know what it’s my fault this is 100% my

Fault I woke up very very early like 3:00 a.m. that is early I had just gone to sleep in a horrendous mood because I was Jarred out of sleep realizing I booked my haircut at the same time that I had an important conference call and

So I had to I I of course I immediately Text my Barber it’s 4 it’s at this point it’s 4 in the morning sir hey I’m sorry bro I I I know I said I could move my appointment to today I couldn’t I have a conference call at 8 I’m gonna have to

Miss it but I’m going into work late if you have anything at like 9:30 it’s Friday there’s like no chance right and he’s of course he’s sound asleep and he text me several several hours later uh it’s good bro I moved my 9:30 man come

In I got you I got you and so I’ve been kind of regroup and then a variety of other things happened and then there was a little mishap in the chatty house that I was trying to fix we Kenny and I we laid yesterday out flawlessly because we

Have a really big day today like I told complex before I left complex we are all set for tomorrow everything should run completely smoothly uh we’ll meet at Sacramento Memorial Auditorium at 7 great man great job okay cool about 10 o’clock an email comes in from complex

Hey can you and Kim get together and do these reads for the two stations normally complex sends one two over totally normal we do it all the time s nine nine different reads over and I’m looking at this like oh oh my God all right so now I’m working with our

Schedule The Insider schedule and Kim’s schedule oh got it all done everything we found Aldren J oh he’s back by the way Al ald J J the burner we we found him alen I don’t know what happened it it might take a day to wash off I don’t

Know what’s going on bro I cannot find you but but but but bride with the burner we got you and then and then Kyle and then Kyle sends that twe that he he texts me a tweet and I’m just like my thing is if someone says something loud

Enough and no one retorts people might believe it so I’m going to start retorting y’all can be real really really loud if you want to but I’m going to start responding hey doesn’t hey doesn’t mean I’m not rooting for you doesn’t mean I don’t want you do well

But if you’re if you’re talking a smid sideways I’m gonna straighten your ass out because they will there will be no perception that we aren’t the ones don’t get fooled don’t get it twisted don’t get it twisted look man like I said we can all

Coexist we can all exist in this in this whole realm man but number one is number one like that that’s something that that’s something that we we we can’t mistake that’s something that can’t be proven otherwise number one is number one and Hell number two is number two you’re not careful number three

Might be number three so it’s cool it’s cool that just it just it just is what it is and like I said in all seriousness I I like a gang of people I like everybody I know over there I everybody I know TR this so do I yeah

Everybody I know over there I got love for man I don’t want nothing bad to happen none of them people professionally nothing like that man got a really weird Jason Ross gift this morning though I don’t know what was going on over there this morning but yeah Jay Ross

Jay the great thing is Jay knew I mean I’m sure he knew as soon as he did it Chris got him Chris was gonna get him but yeah man you know it’s just the guy I got love but just hey man we we doing our here build that’s all but if I catch

Y’all lying again and this and again I it’s me this is what happens when I get I’m really like I’m I’m I’m I’m I’m hyped up for tonight with Kenny and I got a got a big big night the call come through did it did yeah oh SN Bo looking like funy and

I feel like the call yeah it’s it’s at the house it it it it it arrived the the show will be sto tonight let me my man king Melly y’all follow him on IG at King Melly yeah he came over one night took some measurements I I might have had I had an

Essential sweat soup this one or something like it on took the measurements wrote them down took a couple pictures and I sent him a picture of a jacket LeBron James had on that you one my punk ass can’t afford two it it’s not you

Can’t even buy it yeah he was like oh I could do that and when I tell you he replicated that jacket to a te in a Flawless fit I I man come on man y’all are not ready for this come on man man I feel like money and I didn’t even

Tell you about this I didn’t tell you about this he made me a black suit too oo that boy is the one he right here in Sacramento team yeah shout out king Melly shout out to him man out here doing doing that work he is the one yeah

Man he is the one so yeah show will be stopped tonight yeah DLo and Casey they we G we’re gonna look like so I went yeah yeah DLo yeah y’all gonna see us tonight believe that believe that uh but we’ll be at the Sacramento memor so I’m

Already charged up for that and now now now we don’t have just one sports station hating on us we got another hip hop station hating on us ready s shoot what that’s why we can’t talk tonight oh yeah yeah they hating again like they they sent like a follow-up like hey remember

What we said no they didn’t send a followup but we’ve never told our we’ve never told our people this yeah we got every damn radio station that doesn’t fall under the Odyssey umbrella and maybe one that does scared to death of us right now that

Really is the case it really is the case we got these boys shaking they said we put our legal team on this and DLo and casy can’t say a word on microphone at this show okay radio’s so weird bro like seriously they shook you like you said

You ain’t never heard us say that about anybody Schwarz Hip Hop you guys get it how you live you know I mean because we do what we do they had their legal team look at this and said no no uhuh uhuh don’t put don’t let them talk they can’t

Talk if you don’t like it just step it up that’s CRA they but it’s over it’s over there’s nothing there’s nothing these people can do I hate some of these people so much there there’s nothing these people can do I look at the landscape and and and there’s a couple

Reasons why there’s nothing these people can do number one because we’re just that good number two I think I can speak for Damian too we’re so paranoid of falling off that we ain’t gonna stop working we absolutely like that’s just what it is like man I

Don’t want to go back or I don’t want to be you know uh I was hot couple times a few years ago and now you know I I got lazy and some some new D on KC then took my I can’t have that so always going to

Be hungry I ain’t never taking nothing for granted so because of those two things these people know there ain’t nothing we can ever do cuz they ain’t never gonna fall off they ain’t never gonna sleep at the wheel so it’s over you know what the one thing that bothers

Me about what you just said and yeah we’re just G to talk about ourselves for the next four hours other people do it there should be another dowlo and Casey on the way but I don’t think none of these people was ready for it they a they

Ain’t GNA take that chance one of the one of the one of the people that I know and that I’ve talked to I I told him like yo that’s the move that’s the move I’ve said it multiple times he be like man they ain’t gonna do

It dog I was like I know I know but I’m just telling you manto man like cuz CU you’re my guy and I’m not I’m not ever trying to hey I want to see everybody win I’m telling you straight up that’s a move that that needs to be

Made he’s like I know but they they ain’t never going to do it like all right you know we in the next D and Casey will come from right here simple as that find simple as that they they out there shoot find them we know who

They are coach JT I see you yeah just it’s a process and I love everything this company has done for us they move at a snail’s pace they get things done MH they just don’t get it done when we want to just just just wait with us wait

With us no we ain’t forget forget you we’ll let we’ll we’ll let them we’ll let them over at v101 hate and be scared that’s crazy man we didn’t broke bread with these people over at 1140 be scared hey y’all y’all do you we just we’re gonna be here we gon get your attorneys

To look over this document and this document because I guarantee you the next time that show come around ain’t gonna be no questions no ain’t gonna be no questions you’re gonna be boxed out we sold out we sold out a 90s R&B show two weeks in advance shout out to

Our man Dwight Murphy Big Ups to him did an amazing social media production when that when that promotion ramped up over on ksfm two weeks in advance sold that joint out at the Sacramento Memorial auditor straight up straight up is what it is coming up

Next on how great we are hey oh while while he’s in here I want to shout out to tone because tone tone I be having conversations with tone he always looking he always got his eyes peeled too so so shout out to tone he always making sure tone a real one he making

Sure ain’t nobody doing nothing funny uh doing nothing sneaky so shout out to my man he always watching you’re listening to Deo and KC on kfm West Sacramento 98.5 FM carck qd2 Sacramento ESPN 1320 always live on the free Odyssey app live on Twitch YouTube and Twitter as well we even got Jesse

Working for two stations now every day at o’ Jesse’s over there in the in the studio get your Disneyland tickets for Me oh hey it’s it’s good but hey boy we got hey we got some things oh hey we talked to some people last week we got some things lined up that’s just gonna make the distance even crazy it’s gonna be even crazy when when if this go

Through the way it should go through way I think it’s gonna go through it’s gonna get just just forget about it just forget about about it it’s going to look more like what does it look like in red though can we do it in red next

Time if Charlie has us pulled up at his desktop one he’s probably laughing his ass off to uh maybe we can get Charlie to put this in red now um Chris Peterman gonna join us here in just a couple of minutes uh we mentioned this a few moments

Ago I I’ll repeat it because it’s been an interesting hour um even more interesting when we were than we were talking about blackface no I don’t think it was more interesting than that because that it’s definitely been a week that conversation covered blackface in homosexuality and Hip-Hop that’s a

That’s a that that’s a wild first hour and 16 minutes of the show oh man that that that story is not slowing down at all it’s getting way worse no I hate that about hip-hop they’ve got to chill with that um the Kings aren’t going to fall out of the top

10 I think that’s you know you you you said this it Bears repeating the kings are going to have an opportunity to get into the postseason whether it’s finishing top six or through um the playin tournament the top 10 teams are pretty set um the kings are seven clear of the Jazz

Right now the Warriors who I think are in the ninth spot now after last night’s oh they might be in the 10th spot because the Lakers won too uh they’re clear of the Jazz by five so the Lakers and Warriors are clear the Jazz by five

But I said earlier this week you know we’re not not not quite ready to put the Lakers and Golden State uh into the conversation with Sacramento Dallas New Orleans so on it’s getting about that time though uh it’s getting about that time golden state is on a terror right

Now they’re playing terrific and the Lakers are playing well um dodged the bull last night boy I was watching in that please please bro I was rooting for Jordan P something tough last night that just makes me sad to watch Jordan P I mean he had a he had a good

Night though well he did but the overtime got yeah that that wasn’t good over that wasn’t good uh yeah I was a I was a big Wizards fan last night but it it it went to Lakers like big big night from ad and and LeBron Le

I I you know Charlie and I we wrapped up our our because Charlie never leaves no uh as we wrapped up our work on ksfm we were talking about LeBron going for 40,000 I said you know I look up to see what LeBron wore because if he wore a

Black suit into the night’s game he was he’s he’s going for he gonna get 40,000 tonight uh he didn’t he got pretty damn close he’ll hit 40,000 tomorrow uh I think they take on Denver yeah nuggets yeah uh he’ll he’ll get the 40 ,000 there and I don’t know I don’t know what

That is I don’t know if that’s a stop the game moment I’m not I’m not really sure what that is it’s never happened before there’s there’s certainly historical significance to it I think you probably just put up a graphic for it you already broke the record they’re

Gonna want the ball out yeah I think I think maybe not in the middle of the game but on the on the the following commercial break you know you know how it go sometimes like they call timeout you go to your huddle all this other

Stuff as they come out of the Huddle the the SC table Yeah they give him the ball he raises it up to the to the crowd off the top of your head in Denver I think it’s in la oh no I I don’t think that’s what’s happening I think they’ll stop

Yeah in La yeah I think they’ll stop and like when he scores the bucket yeah I don’t know if they’ll stop when he scores the bucket I think it’s gonna be on the first stoppage of play like first the the next commercial and coming out of the commercial they’ll announce it

Standing Ovation first player ever to score 40,000 yeah it’s not like Michael Malone’s going to call time out right there just to acquest to everybody you think that record’s eventually become maybe unbreakable if he plays three more years because he hasn’t the way he’s playing that’s what I’m saying he hasn’t

Really slowed down like at least for a normal normal player yeah it absolutely could what if he gets to 45,000 or something I don’t even know if that’s too crazy to get there but I can’t imagine somebody else having the career that LeBron has KD is the closest right

Probably and I think he’s at 28,000 yeah I mean and I’m I mean I’m just thinking of the the kids Rees plays against right now like I can’t imagine somebody having this career I don’t think I’ll ever see this so we’ probably had this discussion before and this is this is where you

Have to be careful with what you’re seeing now versus what you see at 38 39 and in my opinion 40 and potentially 41 if he wants to is Luca I can’t imagine Luka playing like this at 40 and to be fair I’m not I’m I that came across the wrong way I’m not

Trying to make a Luca joke no I can’t imagine anyone playing this way at the age of 40 the numbers of like uh uh points per game for players like 38 39 40 it’s like8 nine 10 LeBron’s 20-some yeah yeah I can’t I just don’t see somebody doing this this is this

Feels like a a one of one career you know what I mean like we people people talk he might hey he might be I got to really sit down and think about that uh I gotta really sit down and think about that but but people have talked about

Before he absolutely has had the greatest career of anybody to ever play so there’s no okay I I I’m gonna say it I think I know the answer there’s no conversation that LeBron James is the most valuable player of the league no no they the nin to yeah no it’s okay it’s a

Hard stop once you start looking at the standings all right what’s he doing this year though for argument sake uh 25 uh let me let me round up a little bit 258 excuse me 257 and eight look at that fallof usually eight and eight now it’s seven and eight man that’s incredible

Man just absolutely incredible yeah he he’s he’s having a hell of a season for sure especially all things considered you know his age all this other stuff like he he’s oh this is fun he’s still having a great season this is fun there there’s a probably a

Much easier way I could do this Chris peterman’s gonna join us in a minute and we’re we’re he he’s in Minnesota obviously we’re going to talk uh Kings basketball uh with our man Chris Peterman who’s done a great job on on these road trips this season uh him and

Ja flying out to these different spots I’m going to try to do this in an easier way here we go so outside of his rookie year 20.9 outside of his rookie year what do you think is the least amount of points LeBron James has averaged in a

Season 26 I think it’s this year well yeah B not counting this year I go 26 it’s not this year wow 25.0 is the least amount he averaged and that was in the 2021 season this year is second as we just said that’s 25.3 uh of course the most he averaged

Um was 31.4 in the 0506 season he’s averaged 30 plus points per game three times and that’s the that’s the that’s the other thing when we talk about the scoring record I think that Luca is a is a perfect example Shay could be hitting a stretch where he

Becomes an example of this as well guys are going to average 30 points per game espe in in in the league because you know if you read Tim bonsam the League’s broken guys are gonna average 30 points per game for like LeBron has done it three times he averaged 29.7 one year

But he’s done he’s done it three 30 plus three times guys are going to do it like nine times and 10 times it’s just what happens after that that’s the question like because LeBron James again is in season 21 right and he doesn’t miss a lot of time no and you’re right like

What happens after that but also who wants to play that long like I can’t see Luca wanting to play 20 years in the NBA good point you know I don’t I don’t know like we haven’t suncharter territory maybe he’s the leader of the new wave but he’s e he’s even far surpassed his

Peers The Wades the The Carmelos and everything like he’s think about those guys his last year yeah Melo didn’t even get to Melo didn’t even get to retire right LeBron’s also unique in the fact he never really had any like true big injuries or whatever he never even

Missed really like two weeks at a time or whatever he’s always just around that’s got that’s got to be credited to him in the way that he works uh let’s come back Chris Beerman joins us live from Minnesota when D Casey return here Sacramento sports leader ESPN

1320 Peterman what’s up guys what’s up my man how are you I’m good I’m good how are you guys man we are terrific my friend it’s great to have you on with us without that antagonizing Kyle Matson around I appreciate it have you guys ever uh spent any time in

Minneapolis that’s that’s what you thought it was uh sorry about that Chris what was that have you guys ever spent any time in Minneapolis I I think I’ve been there I’ve only flown through it so I know the airport is spectacular that’s that’s about all I know about

Minneapolis downtown is pleasant as hell man I like it here yeah I mean it’s it’s also like 40 degrees it could be like you know 40 degrees colder than it is but it’s a it’s a nice it’s a nice city I mean all things considered 40 degrees

Isn’t that bad right people out here are celebrating like it’s a start of summer oh I bet yeah uh I was listening to I think it was the Joe Buon podcast and they were like why is everyone in such a good mood because it was like 60

Degrees in New York like oh this is the best this is the cool part is and this is this is this is what I hate about those those places um uh it could snow for a week straight in April right like that’s the Killer part

Yeah when I was here last year um I think it was like late January early February when the Kings had those two games probably the coldest I’ve ever been in my life because uh it was it was like yeah it must have been January because it was the ners NFC championship game was

Happening and it was uh I think it got down to minus 10 oh wow I was walking around I like yeah this is this is not for me but very pleasant City otherwise yeah miniapolis is one of the bigger I’m trying to think of some of the bigger cities I haven’t like really

Spent time in that’s one you know where else I haven’t I haven’t been to Houston I haven’t spent any time in Houston from what I’ve heard from people not who aren’t from there but who visit there frequently um we’re not missing much I haven’t really been in Houston either I

Know Houston is traffic and humidity those are the two things that I hear the most traffic and humidity yes and a couple other things depending on who you talk to well yeah yeah yeah for sure are you going on the East Coast trip uh is at the Toronto Washington

Orlando one yes I’m not certain yet but it um I wouldn’t be surprised okay okay seems like you and Ja are going on a lot of virtually all of the road trips like right when yeah always be there we try to do every game between us good that’s good for it’s good for

Fans yeah for sure for sure it’s weird it’s like this is probably the most I’ve traveled ever doing NBA stuff and it’s like going to Memphis twice in like a month span and Denver twice in two weeks it’s just it’s it’s funny how you just like go back to the same city never

Done that before oh man this chatty house is meing the hell at of the graphs oh the Mike Brown one is good oh they got M they they they made a meme out of me Beerman what happened well I I was taking a nap we’re coming back oh we

Are back here with our man Chris Beerman oh Jesse I don’t know how to fix this I think I broke it Jesse oh I got it I got it everything’s fine no no one everyone’s fine uh Chris Beerman uh live in Minneapolis with us here uh we were

Just talking road trips and cities there during the commercial break man happy that you’re with us uh I asked your partner over on the Candlestick Chronicles Kyle Matson about this earlier I’ll ask you what’s your concern level on a scale from 1 to 10 with Sacramento and how this season may turn

Out for them I think it’s relatively concerning you you look at all of the teams that you know there’s that um bunch of teams that are in that sort of five through eight spots in the in the west and they’re all separated by what two or

Three games um the Kings over the last 10 or four and six and among that group that’s that’s the worst record so um I think it’s fair look you you got to to be concerned because you know you got dearn Fox banged up he’s been banged up

For for a significant portion of the season season now whether it was ankles his his ankle early on in the year his shoulder sort of Midway through the year he talked about you know needing uh needing some time during the allar break to get that shoulder healed and now he’s

Dealing with the knee issue and we’ll see if he plays tonight I I saw him at shoot around um I wouldn’t say it looked promising but it’s it’s kind of tough to to judge dear’s gate because um he’s kind of got that old man run to him

Anyway uh even when he is fully healthy but um yeah so I don’t know if he’s going to play again tonight but obviously you know if you if you don’t have him against Minnesota after what we saw Wednesday against Denver that’s pretty concerning so you know for the

Warrior for the Warriors for the for the Kings like you really want to avoid being in the playin you you don’t want to get LeBron James or Steph Curry potentially in in a one game scenario so it’s a it’s a tough stretch and and it’s another tough game tonight so I I think

It’s fair to to be reasonably concerned but um we know this team can and can play as well as anybody in the league on any given night um it’s just the inconsistencies that’s that have been sort of costing them and have been the story throughout the season so

Um we have a frozen beater oh man and and how fitting he’s in the Twin Cities and he’s froze oh and you know the rules we got to leave Beerman up on the screen man he just my man just froze everything and he he’s he froze in 4k yeah

Like get all uh you know pixely yeah James is going to be on dialup for like 45 minutes later on and Sol freeze solid freeze right here too looking out the Minnesota windows out there probably looking nice weather something yeah probably looking at Prince’s house like

Who knows and yeah just a just a tough look as our as our as our man froze here and I and I have a I have a followup for him because you know he said not sure whether it really looked promising but it’s it’s hard to tell

Tell with dear and shoot around I’m curious like well what did it look like the other the other day yeah cuz when when when Beerman said he was a full go at um a full go at uh warmups in yeah I I I thought oh he’s he’s good uh Beerman

Is thoughted out he’s back with us um you you I I had just told the guys but you you said you weren’t really uh may not really be promising for dear what did you think when you saw him the other night in Denver cuz when you tweeted

That uh he was a full participant we were on the air I was like oh he going to play and so I was really surprised when you reported later on that he didn’t or wouldn’t yeah um it’s hard to say like he uh like like I said

He’s he’s kind of got that old man gate to him even when he’s healthy so he’s he’s kind of got that Herky jerky um but he didn’t look great at at shoot around today um and and it’s kind of similar like he was like you said he was a full

Participant Wednesday and then ended up not playing um and and that was decided I don’t know roughly an hour before the game on Wednesday um so I haven’t gotten a talk to him yet I tried to talk to him at shoot around uh that didn’t happen so

We’ll we’ll find out again today um but it I I didn’t think he looked great today um just be being honest but maybe maybe he feels better maybe he doesn’t I’ll talk to him before the game today hopefully and and get a better feel for

It but um yeah not sure we’ll find out did you um did you did you think on Wednesday that the Kings had a chance to win before that game without dearra Fox because I asked that because a lot of people seem to be um like they they’re just like oh

Man wday was so alarming or whatever like this is this is super concerning and if you asked probably everybody before the game like hey Fox isn’t playing you think they’re going to win they’d probably say no so like what was it the fact that they were leading and

They lost the lead so quick and then they got blown out that was alarming I I don’t know I think me and Damian were the only ones that just kind of came away from that saying it was just a loss move on to the next game everybody else

Seemed to think it was a um it was a referandum on what this team is going to do for the rest of the season did you feel that way no I I didn’t because I thought the Nuggets played really really well and you and you look at the stretch

That they’ve been on recently um since the Kings went to Denver and beat him in the last game before the All-Star break they’ve been the best team in basketball and look like they’re in Championship form and frankly that looked like Championship type basketball that they played against Sacramento in the second

And third quarters of that game and it also happened to come when Darren Fox was Sidelines so um if you know if if you’re wondering whether or not the Kings can beat the Nuggets in a playoff series then I think then I think it was alarming just given how good the nuggets

Are it’s it’s less about the Kings um but after the game there were pretty clear signs of frustration in the locker room and and I wrote about it a little bit for the be like Kevin herder had mentioned you know I asked him about the second and third quarter and what went

Wrong and he said you know I wish I was out there more and and Kevin is usually pretty measured and um in what he says and it was I you know I haven’t had a chance to follow up with him yet but it was an admission that he wasn’t exactly happy

With his minutes in in that scenario and and I’ve talked to him earlier in the year and he said you know this year is a roller coaster and um obviously his numbers have been inconsistent he he lost his his starting spot uh I think it was late December through you know five

Games in early January um he’s obviously been mentioned in trade rumors and then you know I I talked to D sabonis on on Wednesday after the game and he said he didn’t think they had good coverages um and he he didn’t really elaborate know defensively he didn’t really elaborate

On whether or not that was a coaching thing or an execution thing um but the guys were were were pretty frustrated with with how when it wasn’t one of those ah yeah we were we were short-handed against the defending champs that was that was kind of to be

Expected there was there was a lot of frustration in that locker room I thought and um and I’m curious to follow up with the with the guys on it today um but that that to me like we’ve seen the Kings The Vibes have been good right like since Mike Brown has gotten here

The Vibes have been overwhelmingly positive throughout the vast majority of of you know his year and a half here um but I wonder if there if things don’t go their way down the stretch here if if that’s going to be something to worry about from a locker room perspective or

If if this team has enough you know physical or emotional resolve to to handle something like that I can’t front that gives me a little um of confidence is the word I that makes me feel a little good about tonight’s game fact they didn’t just yeah like oh it’s just another game they

Were kind yeah the fact that they and and and domas kind of said something postgame you talked about the guys being measured of course he said it to you um about we could have done a little bit better with our our game plans uh for some of their key guys indicating like

This whole thing was off a little bit against Denver the other night and you know we could talk about the Kevin herder stuff in a minute but given the fact that those guys were really upset following that game that actually gives me a a little a little confidence that

They’ll they know the tech they they know that this is another really tall task ahead of them and they’re not willing to lie down for it just because Minnesota’s the top or a top team in the Western Conference yeah because I think that’s a good point and and you look at

Some of the disappointing losses that they’ve had um you know they when they lose to you know like Detroit like obviously they’re frustrated but it never really felt they they it’s kind of been like oh it’s one of one of 82 right it’s these things happen um it’s the NBA

You you got to play well against everybody there there hasn’t been a feeling that this team at least from my perspective that this team is like really upset about any of those losses that they’ve had and I do think if you wanted to to you know sort of spin it

Positively you could say all right it’s good to see them being emotional about losing at this point because I I think they I don’t know if it’s a leadership thing like dearn Fox is not an overly emotional dude I mean we see him we see him get emotional on the court now and

Again but like when he’s talking to us in the locker room he’s definitely not not the type who who gets overly emotional or who reacts too high or too low one way or another um and you know that I think the Kings overall the the team kind of reflects

That um and I I don’t know if that’s a good or a bad thing but I think for them to show emotion after losing is a little bit of a change and tier Point probably a positive one because they you know they they have around the same record

That they had last year obviously last year went a lot better for them given where they were in the standings but now you know they’re they’re really fighting for their lives in terms of trying to get a top six seed and avoid and avoiding the playin so I do think you

Can make a case that it’s good for them to feel emotional um after losing a game like they did Wednesday against Denver because you know these games really matter this is this is a really important stretch obviously those those are important opponents in the Western Conference to play and uh and given that

You know these other teams that they’re grouped up with are starting to play better including the teams behind them and the Lakers and the Warriors um who were in that those n ninth and 10th spots it’s a it’s a really important time for for them to to get it together

Hey Chris the schedule is the schedule it is what it is um but I I’ve said for a while now I don’t think a lot enough maybe has been made about what the Kings have had to deal with the last two months the way the schedule is broken

For them not a lot of home games lot of long road trips um when they get home it’s usually like they came off a seven game home uh road trip they’re home for two games and then they got to go out for another three or four games and it’s

Going to balance out a little bit here in March and I think that is g to be the time to make the move if I was being um if I was plotting this out a little bit like hey keep your head above water in that tough January and February because

It gets a little murky not home a lot or whatever keep your head above water put yourself in position to really make that run in March when they they I think 15 of their last 24 games are at home I think it is um and that’s where they’re

At that’s what they’ve done you know people may not like it I don’t like it but hey you’re kept your head above water and now you got to the point where you’re in a situation where you I don’t want to say control your own destiny but

You do in these final games with a lot of home games coming up yeah I would agree like you look at the January and February schedule there was I think it was a five game road trip with two at home and then they went out on the road

For seven more um and you know the this trip they’re after this trip they’re currently on they only have two more trips where they play more than one road game on each trip right so they have they have two East Coast swings um and it’s all basically all West Coast Road

Games or just home games for the rest of the way so yeah it’s an opportunity for them and and it’s an opportunity for them to to play I think with more Force at home like you know they they’ve let far too many teams particularly bad teams and or

Teams you know missing their top guys come onto their home floor and out play them um and so having having a stretch where you do have a lot of home games allows you to get into a rhythm um allows you to play with more Force and

And allows you to sort of solidify where where you’re going to be in the standings to to your point I think it’s a great one that like they they have an opportunity and and they know that like regardless of how tonight goes you know you have a you have a winable game on

Monday against Chicago you have a trip to play the Lakers which is going to be a really important game given that right now you’re only separated by a game and a half right um but yeah they need to take advantage of what of what they have

With the schedule um and I think one of the frustrating things about them for for this season is that you know they haven’t really done that it doesn’t feel like you know as loud as Golden One Center is and and as good as of an atmosphere as it is um it doesn’t feel

Like teams are all that worried about coming in and and playing there and and I think that’s um that that speaks to just I I don’t know like the Kings have talked about it over and over again that sometimes they feel like they can just kind of cruise

To to wins at home and and it it’ll come back to bite them but they’ll have an opportunity now with all these home games to to get it right and uh and they’re going to have to take advantage Chris why do you think they haven’t been able to take advantage of these moments

This season it feels like you know there’s been a lot of up ups and downs with with Sacramento this year I I think it’s urgency like what when they play play like I think about that Clipper game um what was it Sunday right that felt like the most urgency

That they’ve played with um and when I say urgency how that manifests is like physicality on defense um getting out to three-point Shooters not not getting burned by by you know dribblers to the Lane where the defense has to collapse and then you leave Shooters out open on

The perimeter um I think it’s I think it’s just kind of an urgency thing and I think the Kings know that they can score um but sometime and and I think it’s just in the back of their head that you know we’re going to go on a run here at

Some point so you know we’re we’re going to score at some point and I think that just the League’s too good to have that mindset you just have to have that that mindset where you have to bring it every minute you’re on the floor of of every

Game and Mike Brown talked about it last year like I’ve said it to you guys a bunch of times but I think it’s probably the most important thing that Mike Brown said is that you know it’s easy to go from bad to good it’s really hard hard

To go from good to great and that’s the battle the kings are fighting right now because going from good to Great is about consistency and he’s talked about it with Deon Fox he’s talked about it with his roster as a whole it’s just the consistency to play the defense with the

Intensity and the physicality game in and game out that you need to to win games um is really been this team’s biggest issue and I I think it’s it’s kind of as simple as that and I don’t know what switch you have to flip to to

Improve that I think that’s one of the more confounding things about this team is that you know it’s been talked about the answer is in front of everybody but but they just haven’t really done it on a consistent basis and until they do it doesn’t it it feels like this is kind of

Going to be where they are um as long as the Western Conference continues to to be as form formidable as it is do you um what do you feel about this team do you think they can get into that top CTIC I think they can

N see I knew you were gonna say that do you think they will get into the to I think they will um I mean if they’re if they’re healthy that’s tough uh I I would need to do a dive on on the rest of the schedule but I mean they should like

They they they honestly should they dearen Fox you know I think Kevin herder uh he went on the the point forward podcast I was watching that clip before he came on with you guys saying that dearn fox is a top three-point guard in the league I I agree with him um I think

You know what deis sabonis brings them offensively is obviously you know he’s he’s one of the most important offensive players in the league when you just look to the value to his team relative to you know what the team does and what the team relies on um but you know can can

You get a consistent stretch from Keegan Murray where he’s scoring 20 points a game for weeks on end right can you get a consistent stretch from Malik monk where you know it’s it’s 1520 points nightly instead of you know 2530 and then 6 the next night right like it’s

There there are just so many players outside of fox um just are kind of riding this roller coaster of a season and you haven’t gotten all of them sort of firing on all cylinders at once and and maybe that’ll come and if that comes the kings are a really really hard team

To beat um when they have the full you know when you when you’re getting Trey ly hitting four threes Off the Bench and Malik monk scoring 20 points and running pick and rolls with domas and you’re getting you know double digits in the fourth quarter from Fox like the kings

Are just really really difficult to beat no matter how they’re playing defensively um but offensively it’s been a little bit uneven and and you have I would say three four five guys that you can point to that have kind of had roller coaster Seasons offensively and I

Think that that’s that’s a serious issue in terms of how you look at them in terms of getting to the six seeds so right now I would say you I would lean no just because of how how thick that grouping is in in the west that that everyone they’re contending with and you

Have teams that have won Playoff series um where the kings are still trying to find their footing and do that this year um so you know not to be like Debbie Downer but I I just it’s hard given given what I saw maybe maybe my opinions

Colored too much by you know the Heat game uh on Monday and then the Denver game Wednesday um but for right now I would say it’s it’s looking difficult but if they go on a run where they win five straight games maybe I change my mind you mentioned Keegan Murray there a

Minute ago we talked uh quite a bit throughout the week um about Keegan’s second year how would you evaluate you’ve been covering this team for two years now how would you evaluate Keegan Murray’s second year you definitely see flashes of of a like growth in his game

Growth and evolution in his game right like last year he was mostly used as as a spot up shooter and and I think that’s one of the transitions that the Kings have been making this year is they’re relying on Keegan to be more of a secondary playmaker to be a driver to

Use a mid-range game um and the cost of that has kind of been to Kevin herder right because Kevin herder was getting a lot of triple handoff stuff a lot of um a lot of pick and rolls with sabonis and now herder is sort of the guy that um

That is on the other end of Keegan Murray getting more opportunities on offense and that’s that’s one of the transitions the kings are going through overall um but I would say Keegan it it’s the flashes have definitely been there um and his his game is far more well-rounded offensively than it was and

And I think that that all goes back to summer league and that was the main top talking point when when Keegan was playing really well in summer league for those two games free games whatever it was but I would say the consistency is the thing right like when when you don’t

Have Deen Fox Wednesday in Denver you look at the first quarter and you say oh Keegan’s aggressive like maybe if Keegan you know if Keegan scores 30 or 40 points here and and is hot from three like maybe the Kings can make this a game and make up for what they’re

Missing without dearen Fox and then after the the first quarter it just kind of goes away and so I think that’s that’s really the next big challenge for Keegan is how can he adjust when he’s the focal point of a team’s defense right because Denver is a really really

Good defensive team and they don’t really have any weaknesses defensively and talk about joic a little bit but he’s not he’s not the defensive liability he was earlier in his career um but when you’re playing a really good team in a high leverage situation can Keegan Murray be a go-to scorer um

Because you know Mike Brown said it over and over again that’s what the Kings need to take that next step and you see signs of it but you haven’t seen it um you haven’t seen it for any extended period And I think I I think you know Keegan’s I I’m optimistic about Keegan

Getting there I just think maybe right now when he’s what 22 years old it might be tough to get that from him at this point in his career but next year the year after that um I could definitely see Keegan evolving into that secondary score that pushes the Kings to a

Different level um because right now you know even sabonis scores plenty but he’s not a guy who can create his own offense when you know Deen Fox is taken out of a player de Fox isn’t playing right so that’s what the Kings need from Keegan I think he’s shown signs of his game

Evolving and improving but it hasn’t been there to the point that the Kings need it just yet last question from me do you do you look at this situation with Kevin herder and we we’ve said a number of different times on here they need Kevin herder to

Do what they want to do do you see the relationship or the up and down nature of playing time and do you see that changing between Kevin and Mike Brown uh that’s that’s a good question um I think it starts defensively right because it’s it feels like whenever

Kevin herder is taken out of a game and and just kind of relegated to the bench it’s because he’s Mike Brown is going to a better defensive option whether it’s Chris dwarte or you know Kessler Edwards even um so if Kevin herder improves his play defensively that will allow him to

Get more opportunities to stay on the court unlike Wednesday where he had a turnover he missed a couple free throws um he didn’t shoot the ball particularly well and then you know sat that was taken out with eight minutes left in the third quarter and didn’t go back into the game

Um and in part obviously Mike Brown emptied the bench in the fourth quarter so that’s that’s obviously part of that but um I it’s tough I I think herder’s had one of those difficult Seasons where the expectations last year were so high given um how well he played in spurts

And given how important his shooting was to to the offense and for him to kind of I don’t know if taking a backseat is the right way to put it but to be on the other side of them saying to Keegan Murray all right you’re going to take

More more offens of responsibility and and Kevin’s going to be more of the spot up shooter now um he’s just a rhythm player and he’s struggled to get in Rhythm all year and I think you know I think the trade deadline stuff and all the rumors and all the discussion I I

Think that got to him and and you know I haven’t heard that specifically but to you know talking to Kevin and have him say this season’s been a roller coaster for him emotionally you know reading between the lines that that’s kind of what that’s kind of where where my head

Goes is that like you’re part of you know you see your your offensive role um get get sort of limited after having a really good season last year you’re mentioned in all these trade rumors they end up keeping you and not dealing you um but you’re

Still going to be in all those trade rumors in the off season and and he might see the writing on the wall long term potentially um but he’s very much a rhythm player and he’s talked about how difficult it’s been for him to get into

A rhythm this year um and you know until that changes and I think for him to get in a rhythm he’s going to have to improve defensively to get those opportunities to play play in a rhythm right so um that’s that’s where I think his Focus needs to come because he’s a

Type of shooter who can get hot um really at any moment and if he if he really focuses on defense and plays well defensively then Mike Brown might be willing to stick with him more and then those shooting numbers could potentially come back up for him real quick the crazy thing about

Mike Brown playing it that way is it almost never works yeah like you’re like oh I’m going to teach him a lesson and go with a better defensive line you don’t and it doesn’t make Hur her better so what are we really doing frustrating yeah yeah that’s fair and

It’s definitely something you know Mike Mike Brown spoke last night um before the players did and obviously had I had I gotten you know had I spoken to herder and then Mike Brown I would asked him about that and and I plan on asking him about it tonight and see I’ll see what

He says um but yeah it’s it’s been you know I think when it comes to progression in the NBA it’s never quite linear right like it’s easy to look back and see the team the Kings be a three SE last year and just assume all right they’re they’re going to be better next

Year because they’re a young team and they’ll they’ll have you know more time together but the West got a lot better and you know the Kings have had to deal with some injuries whether it’s fox or um you know and and and other things like it’s it’s just hard to continuously

Ride that same trajectory and and I think the kings are learning that and uh I think ultimately they’ll be better for it long term but right now I think they’re definitely in one of those difficult Str to be fair to herder it’s perfectly okay to be frustrated like the season that

He’s had dating the training camp and all of that stuff like it’s but but we said and and I think our frustration lies with you we said at the trade deadline or excuse me not the trade deadline um the All-Star break one of the most important components to the

Rest of this stretch Chris is they’ve got a Mike and Kevin whatever is going on or has been going on those two need to get on the same page because like Casey like we need Kevin herder to be a certain type of player for the Kings to

Get where they want to go and now we’re like three games into this and Chris is right that the context is important like Mike didn’t play anyone he played domos long enough to get a rebound he didn’t play anyone in the fourth quarter but it felt like herder kind of was already out

And yeah it’s like this is not what this we do not need this well what one of the reasons why Malik monk works with Mike Brown is because Malik will go right at Mike right like will go at Mike and they have enough respect to where you know

They they might be yelling at each other during a game but then they’ll talk about it afterwards and Hammer it out and and that Dynamic is is healthy and if you talk to Malik about it he’ll say yeah I love Mike but like we’ll yell at

Each other but it’s all good I don’t know that Kevin and Mike have that have that same Rapport and I don’t know that Kevin’s built that way um so you know I don’t know I don’t know if maybe he should yell at Mike or or if he should

Go at Mike the same way Malik does I don’t know that that’s necessary in his personality but I I think that’s that’s one of the Stark Stark differences between those two guys is Malik will go right back at you where Kevin you know might not take to the hard lessons in

The in the same way great stuff Chris we know you got a long night ahead man thanks for carving out a pretty good amount of time with us man we really appreciate you my friend yeah for sure sorry about this uh Hotel Wi-Fi early on

Oh man it was great just just just one little hiccup nice little reset you’re back in 4k man it was perfect perfect man I appreciate you guys thanks for me likewise that’s our man Chris Beerman right there also you know we obviously talk Kings basketball there but 49er fans make sure you’re following

Candlestick Chronicles uh they got a great uh YouTube page too those guys go live once in a while they do I told Kyle earlier I’m still not there yet no it’s it’s just nothing personal you know it still downloads on my uh Apple podcast you know area or the Odyssey podcast as

Well but I I I’m not there yet that was a good catch that was a good catch you about to get I look about to get you was about to get our ass kicked hey I ain’t got no problem with Stacey Kaufman ain’t heard dowlo and KC in in in two years

But she tuned in the second Casey said Apple podcast I I ain’t got no problem with the Odyssey uh Odyssey app there’s nothing wrong with it works fine for me I enjoy it putting on my podcast on there I be having my ears to the street

On there you do have your ears to the street you too can have your ears to the street if you download the Odyssey app that’s a great way to listen to dowlo and Casey on 1025 as well I know Drew Down does it a lot Drew down we appreciate you bro

Um uh shout out to Russell like Russell doesn’t know this we can see when Russell’s calling Russell’s trying to win Russell I could see uh when Manny’s calling I know you know because you know depending on what like is on your caller ID we could see when when when like the

Shatty House crew is trying to win tickets yeah uh and I’ll be Dam like I swear Russ is caller number six or you know five or six damn near every day salute to to salute to Russell I know he’s out there uh listening to us man we appreciate you

Um we’re just going to keep going obviously Jesse Um I wish the Kevin herder thing was different because I do feel like it’s it’s lingering a little bit um hopefully it’s not something that lingers too much hopefully it’s not something that lingers into tonight I think my biggest takeaway from that conversation with Chris Beerman and I did not catch this

In his writing uh was what he said about the locker room following the Denver game that’s to me to as a Kings fan that’s fantastic Yeah because sometimes we as fans think H players don’t believe in scheduled losses right like they don’t like they believe they can win

Every game that they go play uh and the fact that because Dom’s remarks did stick out a little bit to me but I didn’t really think anything of it when he said you know I think we could have game planned a little bit better we could

Have been a little bit more he said the top I think he was talking about Jamal Murray Jamal Murray had himself a night like he just an incredibly efficient like 30s something points or whatever that he had the fact that those guys were pissed off in the locker room hey that’s a win

Yeah man that’s a win in my opinion I I and you hope it it’s a win and that you hope it carries over tonight absolutely and it it feeds into what we’ve talked about since probably the Pistons losses it feels like there’s a sense of urgency

Yeah with these guys yeah uh I don’t think that’s gone because they lost to Denver or because they lost to no I don’t think so either and to be honest with you that that like you just said there’s no scheduled losses for these players they go out there they feel like if they

Execute a certain way if they do certain things that they can win the game there’s no oh we don’t have Fox or it’s tough game on the road they’re feeling that way but to be honest with you there might be in the back of their head like

We’ve been saying let’s get through this game get get through this game and our time to make a move will start on Monday because we have the home games coming up we have um really really that’s what it is it’s not even like oh below 500 or

Whatever this will be at home for most of March that’s gonna be our time to make a move well not just that I mean beating you you need wins right but some of the wins are more valuable than others you need to beat Chicago just because where Chicago’s at and that’s

Tough it doesn’t go well for Sacramento when you say you need to beat somebody they got the Lakers Wednesday that’s a big game man it’s it it’s huge yo it’s huge and you talk about Lakers games Pelicans games Suns games Mavericks games those games carry a lot of weight

Right now does Mike Brown need to figure it out or does Kevin herder Mike Brown yes both I think both of them need to I think Mike Brown needs to figure out Kevin herder is doing what Kevin herder does and and I don’t feel like he’s not trying I I I

I you’re right but I disagree to a certain extent because we’ve seen Kevin herder May and maybe he can’t do this against everybody we’ve seen Kevin herder play I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he’s played good defense at points I’m not going to say at points during the season but I’ll

Say in games like we we’ve come in here after games and say hey herder was getting after it defensively the efforts there at least I don’t know what like I don’t know what I don’t know if triggers is the right word I don’t know what causes that

He’s capable and I don’t know if it’s a pep talk I don’t I you know Mike has to know what Kevin responds to and whatever button that is he needs to push it yeah and and again it could be the skill set of who he’s guarding maybe he can’t do

That against everybody but I think there’s more players than we’re giving him credit for that he could be active with shoot go back to Miami he was one of the guys who was who was uh getting deflections absolutely all that other stuff absolutely and and reason why I

Say Mike more than herder is because you have if you’re Mike Brown you have to know Kevin herder’s he’s he’s trying he works hard but he’s just not gonna be able to do that every single every single night and those nights when he doesn’t have it the

Nights when um he he’s not doing maybe what you want him to do on the defensive end instead of messing around with his playing time maybe that’s a conversation but you’ve got to be able to gotta be able to take the good with the bad if

You’re M BR in that situation and say for the greater good I can’t take you out of this game I can’t you know have you playing five minutes in the second half or whatever the case may be and we lose like that’s the whole other thing that’s that’s the thing that really gets

Me do whatever you need to do you know what I mean to win the game but too many times he’s messed with Kevin herder’s minutes his production and all this other stuff and it comes in a loss it’s like what what is this what is this helping we accomplish nothing yeah yeah

So if you’re going to dwarte or any of those other guys and it’s it’s yielding results then it’s lot more um up to Kevin Harter to be like hey if you want to be a part of this you got to change your game because we’re we’re winning

Here you know without without you if need be but when you’re not I think that’s what Mike has to just be like all right well when are we winning we’re winning usually when Kevin Harter is playing well I need to um have a longer

Leash to let us to try to get to that spot where Kevin her is playing well and essentially we’re playing well it’s kind of like a pros and cons thing or like kind of like what has more of an impact so I get Kevin herder’s defense might

Not be great but is his offense more impactful than say Chris dte’s defense would be because that’s why you’re sevening them in like what has more of an impact like can you live with Kevin herders maybe he’s not great on defense that night but he’s putting up buckets

And like what’s going to have more of an impact what’s going to help you out more herder buckets so I agree but I also think Mike is kind of hoping Chris dorte will hit shots yeah it’s like what game no I know I know I know what you’re

Saying Mike work with us here like we’re game 55 I don’t know what’s happening I know but like he hit some shots you know and I don’t want to call it garbage time he hit some shots against Denver and like you okay dude can make baskets

Right but it feels like in those moments where like Mike’s like all right I’m gonna go with DTE it doesn’t like in the second quarter in a fourpoint game it it doesn’t feel like those baskets fall a lot like you could probably name the games where like oh DTE had a big impact

In that game there not very many of them well and to be fair to dwte in my opinion I thought he’s he’s played well he’s played well since he came back from his ankle injury that spans five games or something like like that maybe he’s played well he hasn’t played well enough

Where it’s like you need to swap him and her her his minutes out right you know he’s played well enough to to get a look and to steal some minutes um during games but not where it’s like all right this is the option now we got we got

Dwarte here like we don’t need her to N I haven’t seen that well because you could look at Kevin’s numbers to be like oh like well he’s not putting up like producing or whatever it’s like he’s not getting the chance he’s getting cut off like just in hit that 15minute Mark

Sometimes he’ll get to 25 maybe or whatever but he’s not getting an opportunity Shooters got to shoot the ball like they in order to get out of something they got to let the ball fly like and he’s not getting that chance yeah absolutely he’s not uh Michael says

Clearly he Mike Brown pushed the wrong buttons from the start of training camp he put doubt in his head instead of building him up players respond differently and he Kevin is not a guy that threats work uh I think Michael’s right I think this is uh I think the

Whole Kevin herder situ situation has been a bit of a misstep for Mike Brown this year I don’t fault Mike or mon or anyone for wanting to see you know what Chris DTE can do for you I think there had to have been and I don’t know I’m a

Dumb radio show host I I don’t I don’t know how I don’t know what that is but I feel like they had to be a better way than what Mike did well that’s the thing like you could have worked him into the rotation you could have done virtually

Anything and saying oh I’m going to start him yeah CU everyone everyone needs to be coached differently in a sense where it’s like everyone responds differently to different things like how I respond might be different than Kenny or whatever like you just got to know that as your coach what’s going to work

Because you could probably still Implement like Duarte or like figure it out but there’s a way to do it like you said yeah Kenny’s the most chill dude you don’t even know what he’s responding to you just like he like takes it all in well yeah because he’s like Jim from that’s that’s

All that’s my B yeah hold on who Jim that’s no hold on let me get this out the way you didn’t even catch it look at that I just I just put my hands in the air I just I just that’s on me Jim from the office there’s an episode there’s an

Episode in the office where Pam’s like yeah you don’t really yell but you exclaim like that’s you you don’t really yell or anything like that well he got pissed off once and boy did things start happening after that facts but for bdx kind of got lit up on that

Uh yeah what are we doing what’s the next move what are we doing yeah no Kenny was here for almost had one of those moments yesterday morning we were in so what are we doing here what why does this why does this happen Monday meeting used to be some well come

Back steo and Casey uh brought to you by Sky River Casino much more Kings coverage ahead here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 let me get some uh more bacon fruits going man those biscuit no oh yeah those biscuits look so good I just refus to eat biscuits from a place with

That name they looked really good are the biscuits good I don’t oh okay not a huge biscuit guy oh man it’s been a few hours it probably kind of dried out too at this point they look good though I was I was like oh come on

Man my bad Sean balls my bad my bad the funny thing Kenny didn’t even hear it Kenny didn’t even hear it oh man I’m so glad we got Chris back that’s the thing Paul sometimes you got to let him play through it when he’s on I mean they’re tough to

Beat oh Russell you can you can use whatever phone you want to it’s just it’s just luck man it’s just luck we we we literally count to nine it’s all we could just see the screen that’s the only that’s that’s that’s the only thing I never know what

Number you are until I press the actual button was Chris with 1140 why did you guys have to oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah uh yeah Chris had a Chris was Chris with our uh urging um was paid to stay away from oo and casc and after a season now that we I’m

I’m not going to pretend after a season now we have the Insiders too uh he’s come back home and would like Chris to be a bigger part of this radio station as the as time goes along Michigan I’m not GNA say he is but something is off with him

I don’t know what it is but yeah he’s he’s a little off I love Michigan’s commitment to boxing it’s one of my favorite things in the show my man loves him some boxing needs to stay away from Oscar what’s going on out there well apparently I’m dowlo well all

Right did that did did those files get sent off thank thank you thank you and thank you for helping with that I know I know well at some point we might need you to kick a cameraman oh that’s fine too I can do that too yeah not lazyy don’t kick lazyy figurative C

Cameraman oh boy it’s so matter of fact to what’s up DLo I’m not DLo it was someone who worked here who said that yeah Kimberly no the one that’s not always over there can you see yeah yeah forgot his Name yeah no no no uh it is yeah that one right yeah yeah that [Laughter] one oh man yeah major Friday Vibes these might be this this might be a different type of Friday Vib this is like Friday Vibes on the night of a big concert oh yeah

That’s us right there one foot out this door is what I have David see the great part about DAV David says hey are you guys do and mo that’s not what happened they walked by and said hey de and mo I looked around like where are they looking around and the guy’s like

Turning away from I was like is he talking to wait wait when did that happen it happened on The Concourse we were walking The Concourse you don’t remember that we were walking The Concourse and some dude yells hey vely remember this de Mo and we’re like hey and we’re like

Looking around and I turn over and I see the guy and he’s kind of got his hands up and he’s looking at us and I’m like you think he like realized after I don’t know like maybe that guy’s like wait maybe he got maybe he got his

Podcast mixed it’s just I don’t even know how that happens cuz like there’s so many questions like which one of us is Deuce and then like more importantly which one’s mortgage I just I don’t even know how that happened can you imagine dude just turn um Tunes in

De Mo after every game who the hell are these people where have the guys been man that’s that’s literally like me seeing Drake after a game be like Jerry rold hey what up my guy yeah no sir no was terrific and you know I don’t know

Maybe he had a couple of beverages in his hand I’m not sure he was really excited though so dece if you’re listening you got a really big fan out there who’s not quite sure what you look like all right let’s play a quick game real quick What’s worst calling you deed Mo from

Someone who’s a fan of the shows or calling Casey DLo that is our coworker the coworker that we see in the hallway that that we walk past that we have sales meetings about rely on to that we would like you to sell stuff for can I

Can I throw in a third- Party candidate how about the woman who asked what I do here does does she work here like she roams the Halls like she’s right there what do you mean do she working she’s right there what are you talking about I

Didn’t know I didn’t know that’s who it was until now right there oh man she worked here for a while well well to be fair she said that like her first or second week three week okay said hi to her like her first day like I walked over and introduced like

If she turns to her right she sees me sitting right here she has deal with the computer hey can you let Jonathan know it’s working kind of slow oh man see the problem with that is like there’s some people that now I know but

Like I had been here for a while like in the office for a couple months I like who’s that guy again what does he do but it’s not necessarily my job to know who that guy is and what show he’s on it was her

Job I love her to death by the way she fantastic really good people really good absolutely and she was she was a uh for a lack of better term she was a noob at the time she was a noob she was a she was a but nothing will kick your ego in the

Balls quicker than a coworker looking at you and going what do you do here [Laughter] again nothing I’m on the street team yeah yeah hi my name’s Joe do you need anything shout out Joe it’s my boy I know boy Joe gonna be pulling him tonight man I know I know Joe’s excited

Gonna pull more Joe Joe ory leyy don’t stop boy Ley don’t stop yo Ley will walk up and here’s the great thing like every every every uh baddy in attendance tonight is probably gonna be about 40 to 45 years old and here’s G Lil Ley is gonna show up with his camera talking

About hey can you guys say something for 1025 and he’ll hey can I get you guys dancing on the video hey can I get you guys dancing Ley has no fear n man Ley get after it none watching Ley from the stage at uh uh T and FL

Rider and Ley just watch Ley making his rounds got his camera in his hand he’s looking up looking around you could see him spot a group yeah yeah I’m and he makes his way over there he’s like a spice Adams at the tree like yeah the crazy thing is said hey tell us

Why you love D and Casey so much like I don’t even know who that is what yeah don’t worry about it just tells why you love him so much sure they gave me my tickets like I don’t know but like fine um and now we know now we know why he’s

HL yeah he ain’t afraid to talk to nobody yeah that man was driving a a a Tesla truck yesterday come on man Jasmine pay for hers get I’m a need mine Ley Ley just out there riding I’mma need mine that’s for sure hey um real quick

Yeah we got time did you did you see um did you see that c of andrewa igawa I I did not did you see it Jessie I didn’t see the clip but the talking funny about Andre Gala why should I pull up the clip yeah I

Don’t I’m out the give me give me two seconds you guys go ahead talk more about co-workers real quick while I pull this up but I just I mean fair or foul is is is what I would ask fair or foul because part of me seems like hey man it’s fair

It was asked the question oh I saw that I saw I didn’t see the video of that but I know what you’re talking about now yeah yeah yeah yeah just ask the question you know he’s got to answer it he’s he’s not on a team anymore you know

He’s got to answer the question so there’s that the other part of me is like come on man you you was you you was grinding with this guy you was grinding with this guy let me let me pull up the the share screen real quick where we at BO boom all right I

Think we we sharing oh no yeah no you you you there just I I just put it up on the put it up put up on screen all right Andre gwa was asked by Ryan waso about who uh he would trust more in the clutch Kyrie your stuff tie game playoffs who

Are you most scared of Kyrie Irving is not even close whoa so wait you’re going with Kyrie now over everybody we’ve talked about for the last second shot going with Kyrie you talking about Fear Factor at at at any given moment or for like that moment Kyrie because I mean

With Steph I think he’s shown at he’s proven the teams that you can double him and if you could just try to get the ball out of his hands then I guess that’s the way to combat him but with Kyrie he’s just so good like he’s able

To you can’t get the ball out of his hand Allan Iris said Kyrie was the best ball handler in NBA history and I’ve been told that I was crazy for saying that but Kyrie you talk about Fear Factor you ask anybody in the league that’s a scary

Guy to see tie game playoffs so first of all are foul first F first things first Iggy looks tremendous he look phenomenal he looks he looks fantastic in that that was that was a great su he had on I don’t know I don’t know why this thing keeps doing that

Um I think it’s completely fair I I don’t think he said anything egregious at all Pi Kyrie over Steph she and and then he mentioned like I think Ryan was was like just anybody he’s like just anybody who would you take oh Kyrie but then he singled out

Steph he was like yeah you know Steph you can get the ball out of his hands I get it cuz like maybe like he’s trying to be a media guy now and stuff like that and that’s going to drive up more clicks and stuff like that what they’re looking for but like

You that’s your guy yes that’s your guy like like you could even you could even say maybe you could hedge a little bit be on the fence be like yo Kyrie’s crazy but come on man this dude Steph I had four championships with this guy man I I

Don’t know I don’t know where’s the Loyalty at wait a minute where’s the Loyalty a minute went into business for himself that’s Hulk Hogan stuff right there went into business for himself if he says Steph Curry is my guy I won four champ ionships what he’s not answering the question just pick step

Honestly oh you two are little hoes you don’t even want him to answer I’m just I I don’t know how I feel about that just something about it seems a little funny I get where you’re coming from anything wrong with what he said I get where

You’re no I get where you’re coming from but I’m just on KC side like yeah it’s just we won championships we played on teams like I just I got your back I’m sorry play the beginning of this for me again play the very begin maybe I’m

Maybe I maybe I heard what I wanted to hear we go tie game playoffs who are you most scared of Kyrie Irving right stop I got you okay okay okay okay I got then he he voluntarily brings up Steph Curry run it run run the run it okay wait a minute

Run it again let or let play it from right there not even close whoa so wait you’re going with Kyrie now over everybody we’ve talked about for the last second shot I’m going with Kyrie you talking about Fear Factor at at at any given moment or for like that moment

Kyrie because I mean with Steph I st sh so so this is a so this is a real right there’s some editing there there was clearly a conversation about Steph Ryan said over all of the other guys we talked about so it’s he didn’t just bring Steph Curry up out of nowhere

They’ve had conversations about players you’re do see look at you two you’re doing the internet thing where you take a clip and it’s isolated and there there there’s I think the TR of iguodala’s point is there there’s probably a lot more to it in regards to Steph Curry I don’t think he said

Anything wrong in that clip absolutely nothing at all Jesse don’t why do you hate Kyrie Irving that’s the bigger question that’s my boy Kyrie but Jesse just just wait till he’s doing an interview with Joe Davidson for the sa who’s the best producer Chris verl yeah doing an interview with Joe

Davidson he be like honestly I take Styles over KC to be honest with you the tough world don’t make me do don’t make me do that come on man I’ve established on this show on a number of occasions there is no longer a DLo show moving forward is DLo and KC or I’m

Doing something else with my life when Aaron comes to talk to KC I mean you can get the ball out of KC’s hands style is just a Fear Factor this is ridiculous go to I don’t want no part of this cspn 1320 oh man Jesus Christ hey guys we’ve got kicking in

With KC today let’s get after it uh oh how do I get this off of here I went full screen full screen I don’t want to do that hold on let me unshare this screen let’s take this off let’s do it again bada bing bada boom Oh I don’t want that in the

Background I want the full screen okay there we go now we go we good we good we good we got to do like a quick 13th round like when we come back from break or something too I think oh for sure Ryan Garcia is looking kind of

Funny we’ll get into it kicking it with KC let’s get it kicking it with KC with your boy Kenny carway and today we’re talking talking about the Air Jordan 5 Olive oh I like these the Air Jordan 5 Olive made its debut way back in 2006 and had never been re-released since

Then until now as the Jordan five Olive is back in these streets when it first released the Air Jordan 5 Olive was part of the Jordan’s brand lifestyle series which also included matching apparel but here the 2024 version consists of an olive suede text style upper with the

Tonal shades of green on the mesh midfoot panel and ey stays contrast comes by way of the bright orange accents on the inner lining Jumpman logos on the tongue and heels as well as the sharp tooth graphic on the midsole I really like these I really do man I’m

Usually a guy that goes for the more traditional color when it comes to uh to to what Mike actually wore when it comes to the Jordans these are pretty far man I like these man I like the orange accent color here really compliments to Olive and the suede it it doesn’t feel

Like it doesn’t feel like traditional suede I don’t really know how to explain it but it’s different seems a little more durable or something like that yeah man I I really like these I really like these man this is a good look right here but you know I gotta ask my man Rees

What you thinking about the Air Jordan 5 olives man what you seeing for Air Jordan five olives I like the design and so I’m G have to get that eight out of 10 okay all right the colorway I’m gonna have to give it nine out of 10 it

Reminds me of the Jordan undefeated clab a little bit I see you I see you yeah yeah yeah and then for the comfor and for the comfortability I’m G have to give that seven out of 10 that’s a pretty high score man What’s the total

You got total overall rating is a 24 out of 30 okay all right I like what you’re talking about yeah yeah this is pretty hot man I think I’m with you on this a Jordan 5 Olive returning in full family sizing on March 2nd 2024 for a retail price of

$210 a reminder all my people out in the Sacramento area if you want these and all other hot shoes out right now check out my people over at Phenom down in doco just steps away from the golden one Center shout out to my people over at fenan

Baby yes sir it with KY shout out Reese man appreciate you dog um yeah I like those Olive joints I really do I really do I didn’t know if I would but I do all right we’re coming back Dame’s not here so 13th round on the air

Well this is a shoot D has left me he said uh you guys play too much and he’s out of here so it’s just me and Jesse just me and Jesse here all right real quick he just walked in is Ryan Garcia all right well I watched that press conference in La

Yesterday he didn’t seem like he was all right now he tried to say he was uh hopped up on on on coffee that’s what he said but yo that was that was a wild little press conference man it really was benefit of the doubt but I’m watching right now can you really be

Hopped up on coffee I don’t think so I like I’ve never drank a coffee that’s the thing to I’ve never drank a coffee I’m like oh my gosh blah BL just like maybe awake a tiny bit more but yeah I don’t I don’t know I but I saw the same

Thing you saw I was like Oho he’s he’s a little off he’s a little off he said he he said for sure I don’t do cocaine oh he he did say that made that perfectly clear he said I drink and I smoke I don’t do

Cocaine so I don’t know I I don’t know um did you see the the sparring video with tank yeah that is the guy is this the extended 13th round well you weren’t here like just just come on dud it’s Friday all right come on we’re just hanging out real quick come on ain’t

Nobody ain’t nobody beating tank at 1 130 to 140 he’s not just power dude he’s got he can bot skill now to he got SK pound for pound he’s top six five he’s better than Haney in those guys and then and then uh Bill Haney wanted to be like

Oh did he show you the video and when we stopped uh tank and made made him uh quit and they gave us our money bro does anybody believe after seeing that video does anybody believe Devin Haney at any point stopped tank Davis now he might

Have got some hits in he might have done some good stuff outside of the video but does anybody believe he stopped tank Davis no chance stop it was bad was the point like oh well let’s the good stuff by you get knocked out by Tank all right

Somebody said the the promo for the fight has turned into who got beat worse by Tank box office that’s the 13th round there go shout out Jesse what you want to talk about man no just make sure everybody’s good make sure everybody’s good we good man we

Good I didn’t know if he was coming back well after what you said it was a little bit ridiculous I could have stayed gone I can’t even exist in this building I walk by Kimberly looks at me and goes what ma’am I was just walking back to the

Studio that’s all I was doing was walking back to the studio I got you talking about I’m siding with Styles and some fictitious situation I got Kimberly looking at me like what like bro I just wanted my green juice out here on this Friday boy the sun isn’t out that’s what has everybody

On Ed man I hope it stays out I do too I’ve been checking I don’t think it is I don’t think it is either but it’s been supposed to rain all morning and it really hasn’t it’s just kind of been raining off and on yeah let me see what

I’m put the I’m gonna put the black jacket on i y can see this it’s uh 60 to 70% at Showtime yeah I don’t know though the Doppler radar doesn’t um look like there’s a lot of rain though I I I don’t know so well okay yeah y gota y’all gotta see uh

Y’all gota see DLo out here looking like money no I’m a uh I’m this is the jacket you haven’t seen yet yeah that’s that just that just went to ig make sure you’re following us on IG we gonna be all over Instagram tonight oh yeah man

It’s gonna be a night all over Instagram tonight it’s gonna be a night I’m so damn excited for uh for this R&B show at the Sacramento Memorial Auditorium shout out to my guy Joe is actually happening for the first time me and Joe will be in

The same place at the same time y so nobody has to worry about anything has to wonder or anything we are two different people good times to have man good times to have for sure and the league uh is in good hands CA that boy Vic is

Bad he is okay sorry headline Spurs beat the Thunder last night so badl that boy Vic is bad he is legit he’s a problem he is an absolute problem and he’s getting more and more comfortable by The Game and there there really is a little something going on with him and Chad you

Know what I’m saying he gets get I like it too I love it yeah Chad’s good too CH Chad’s not good Chad’s great he when he block CH jump shot I was like oh snap I said oh snap like hearing Vic to the Spurs fans like after the game and stuff

Like that I think he could like take over that face of the league like he could he could play that role I think like he he knows what it takes it’s so funny and maybe a bit ridiculous what one little bad word can do that’s all it

Is just one little bad word made oh this this dude just like me he’s just like me yeah okay all right because we don’t I don’t feel like we know a ton about Victor whama the person mhm like we’ve heard everything about his you know about Kareem and growing up and

Stretching routines and Prodigy and prehab and all we’ve heard all about that stuff read extensive articles on all of that but like who’s Victor wiama like that’s that’s what that’s that’s what we have to learn that’s part of becoming the face of the league right you establishing your personality

One thing I was not prepared for Vic is a Style guy oh yeah they got Vic so Lou really Louis and in this this this forel campaign they’re really leaning into NBA players like you can’t check League fits without that Domin print walking into walking into the

Stadium you got LeBron is one of their their their spokes people spokes models or whatever you want to call him now you got Vic out on billboards outside the arena in San Antonio yeah like okay that I didn’t know that I like this now we’re we’re we’re getting to we’re I can’t

Remember we’re rounding him out as a person I’m sure that’s an offense reference but I can’t remember what episode we’re rounding him out as a person and yo so far I’m all about it yeah I mean about it he he is definitely even when we had that discussion about

Whether or not he you know was the face of the league or can be or whatever I I didn’t know if he was going to never said he can’t be he can be um like you said he’s got a level of Charisma to him he’s got the style to him um and to

Me I’m still a little old school with it he’s he’s got the the two uh machines behind him when you talk about now Louie and now he’s got Nike and Nike don’t really miss they don’t really miss so between those two and then his game yeah he’s going to be

Everywhere going to be everywhere you won’t be able to miss him obviously physically and just on your TV screen okay I had to I had to look up because I didn’t know I had to look up his agent I don’t know that gentleman’s name I’m gonna or is he from is he from

France or something like that I think so yeah yeah uh yeah his family has had a long time relation ship with this individual um that’s that’s not a name I can even attempt to pronounce so I’m just going to I just wanted to see who it was

Um commport is the agency and I’m not even familiar with that but salute brother’s doing a great job or persan is doing a great job whoever it is yeah uh doing a very very good job but so the Spurs don’t get lumped into the categories of the Wizards in Detroit

Despite the fact they’re only a few wins better I’m not saying this to to to stall out the Kings or to console anyone who’s frustrated with the basketball team games like that happen the Spurs who I I think yesterday were at 11 wins yeah so the now 12 wins San Antonio

Spurs which is like three games better four games better than Detroit and Washington beat the top team in the west not only beat them they beat their ass yeah went to work it happens it’s frustrating it’s frustrating for Oklahoma City because the the Thunder fans are like hey yo we’re in a fight

For the top seed with Minnesota and we’re losing to San Antonio they’re experiencing the same emotions that everybody else does point is I know it’s frustrating it happens it happens it’s not a great sweeping indictment of the team it happens it sucks but it happens yeah and that’s it’s really what it

Comes down to man and uh a lot of this stuff is really about how you respond if you respond um you know swinging out of that uh like the Kings have done a couple of times when they’ve lost these type of games they bounce right back when the next game get

Mostly mostly against the Nuggets um but that’s that’s what it’s going to be about man and um I do know this though they’ve even with all that being said they play the Spurs again they got to win that game when they play him they do

They got to win that game week or sorry not this week it’s Bulls Lakers first yeah yeah so they they going the the the time I actually want to go to that game again I want to see I do to I do too the time for it it happens for the Kings it’s

Kind of up like that it some things just shouldn’t happen thank you at this point in the season they can’t come to talking about you think I want this it just happened no no no not no more Fresh Prince of bell air for those that aren’t caught

Up uh this got my attention this is what I ass assumed uh he was waiting for uh Cam Newton finally addressed the video I assumed we hadn’t heard from him because Brody has a podcast uh the podcast dropped uh Cam said he explained that he’s disappointed in himself uh for

Letting the situation Escalade but he wanted to clarify a few things I know and knew exactly who that was they were former coaches uh under my organizations he went in there was a lot of different clips that was going around kids jumping cam those were grown men those were coaches and former

Coaches and he went on to talk a lot more some of this stuff uh I can’t read um but he said we can laugh about it we can play and I will always try to bring humor into something that’s light-hearted but this is a serious situation this could have gotten ugly

For real I paraphrase that that that last line um I’ll be listening yeah I’ll have to check this out there’s one thing really really really bugs me about Cam Newton I think sh I think Shannon sharp brought this up but he might have been speaking specifically about that incident with those

Coaches that incident with the fight were those were coaches there’s another video circulating I don’t it’s not it’s just from a different moment with Cam yeah where he’s talking to a young man and I I he challenges him to something and I can’t remember what it was but this young man

Calls Cam Newton a washed up athlete like bro you’re talking to a Heisman Trophy Rookie of the Year NFL MVP there’s like a com um compilation of those videos yeah yeah like who the hell are you talking to if he didn’t get hurt probably a Hall of Famer yeah and I found that

Baffling like why are people comfortable talking to Cam Newton that way maybe it’s that he talks back maybe it’s that he doesn’t like turn the other cheek maybe it’s like oh you want to go like let’s go he told the kid I’ll pay your mortgage I’ll pay your rent let’s go

Right now oh what am I GNA do going up against the washed up athlete bro who are you talking to right I find that fascinating because that and I know I know uh un was talking about Payton and and those guys and their their uh their football camps and how they don’t

Get disrespected why in the world would Cam Newton get respect disrespected that way and I’m asking the question why the hell ises Cam Newton get disrespected period y’all don’t know who that man is man was the number one pick in the draft did not disappoint man W an MVP that man

Took the Carolina Panthers to the Super Bowl with a 15- one record who are you talking to that man could have won his second MVP the year his shoulder got destroyed in my opinion go back and look at the numbers before that Thursday night game against the Steelers that man

Was the MVP of the Season gets hurt against Carolina excuse me gets hurt against Pittsburgh never the same never essentially theoretically ended his career that night yeah that’s upsetting man it really is man upet and like like uh Shannon said uh and in the same clip that you know we’re talking

About you know the these kids and uh people around them they think it’s cute you know the culture they think it’s cute they think it’s it’s clever you know to to say these type of things and be disrespectful on this level uh have it go viral and all this other stuff

Like you said it’s not cute it’s not cute it’s a problem it is highly disrespectful and yeah there’s nobody there to check these kid like I I I wish Reese or any of the kids that I coach would say something to somebody the the an adult just in general but the stature of

Cam Newton when I’m around n it’s not GNA be okay it’s not gonna be okay respect needs to be shown and the these guys have done things and have been places that you’re trying to get to so you be a fool not to embrace being around them as opposed to disrespecting

Them you think you can learn more without Cam Newton than with them man that’s a cold that’s a cold world can’t imagine that can’t imagine being a aspiring football player or athlete and feeling like I don’t need cam new I have the ability to have Cam new on my side

And I don’t need him it’s crazy and and and the crazy thing about it is the kid who who who said that and the kids who who said that in those clips they probably not they’re not even sniffing where Cam Newton end up going they may

Get to college and all this other stuff and I’m not sneezing on that but the heights that that Cam Newton reached they won’t even come close won’t even come close that that’s crazy I do want to see what he got to say about those guys because I saw those

Guys uh talking yeah radio show they didn’t say anything like I think they they thought they were going to like shed light on some stuff to make people like say oh okay well I kind of see where you’re coming no I don’t see where you coming

From at all dog at all there was one I I didn’t I didn’t I saw a clip from it and there was one line that told me I did not need to see this the line was it was typical Cam Newton behavior that right there told me

You had an axe to grind and I have no interest in what you’re about to say there’s no typical Cam Newton behavior all right man all right bro they was running around trying to like victims like somebody did something nobody going to talk about how crazy he was talking to us on Saturday

And all this bro there’s there’s video of you talking crazy you you aren’t very bright in this situation because you wanted to post it on your socials talking crazy about cam calling him out of his name all this other stuff so let’s not act like you just innocent and

Cam started talking crazy you out of nowhere like stop bro like they they they did they thought they were getting on there telling their side of the story and giving a little more light to it and they just they they looked even worse and they looked even more like people I

Never want my kids to be around you guys supposed to be leaders yeah and you guys the victim acting like you’re the victim pointing the finger everything that coaches tell players not to do you sitting up there and doing that when the heat is on you it’s ridiculous those guys are embarrassing

Very much so I derailed us I apologize that popped up and I didn’t know where we were going yeah well that’s fine well at the rate we’re going today we ain’t going nowhere other than to the Sacramento Memorial Auditorium at 7 o’clock tonight you know the Clippers need to get going Clippers Clippers

Actually uh stalled out a little bit they you know good for them they got the Wizards tonight they got the wizards they got Wizards on the second night of a back to back uh who are just walking back into crypto tonight uh after taking on the Lakers last night to take on the

Clippers today uh and the Clippers have been a little a little sketchy over the last 10 games a little sketchy uh I wish should tell the whole story Paul George I don’t think he played it any he hasn’t but the Clippers have almost locked themselves into the four Seed

Where the Suns and pelicans and you know Mavericks Kings all those they’re given the way that the CU I expect the Clippers to regroup in some way shape or form and not you know falter too much mhm those teams are probably a little bit too far behind but at the same time

Denver and in in Minnesota and Oklahoma they might be a little too far ahead yeah they could be the four yeah they could be essentially what Sacramento was last year when they were locked into the three for so long right right and and that could actually probably play to

I want to say like you want to get as high as you can in the standings but if you’re locked into the four you’ve got home court in the first round um you’re going up against a team that has flaws no matter who it is at five that you

Feel that you can beat and the most important thing for them is probably let’s get into the playoffs healthy that a team like the Clippers a team like Denver you know I don’t know if Minnesota and OKC have have the chops to fill this way yet but we’re talking

About the Clippers here their goal is let’s get their healthy and then we can win from anywhere whether we’re four three six you know let’s get in the top six first of all let’s get there healthy and it we’re not phased by any of this so maybe it’s it’s working out for

Them okay you know where they don’t have to push guys like Paul George and kawhai to you know either get into thep top six or push them for a one seat or something like that therefore they got their home court and they can try and get healthy

For the playoffs Denver’s got two and a half on La I actually thought it was three not a big difference between those two optically it looks a little bit different um I still think two and a half three whatever is probably a little too much for the Clippers to make up

Given the high quality of those teams in front of them Oklahoma City has three on them Minnesota has four on them and the Clippers have three on Phoenix who’s next and it goes three and a half four so on and so forth As you move down all

The way down to the T Seed where golden state is and Golden State’s now to back from Sacramento with the Los Angeles Lakers just a game and a half back and that’s where we were talking about Wednesday’s game I kind of am leaning into something you repeated it today you

First said it yesterday and I probably let it slide and should have should have dove into it a little bit more I know we discussed it but I I think in the end it was a it was a good line you you you said it that yesterday

I just want to get through Denver and Minnesota and it was like okay I know what you mean and then I thought more about it last night I like man I think that’s a great point just get through these two games because both of those teams are monsters and not that they

Can’t beat Minnesota tonight I absolutely believe they can whether Dean Fox is playing or not but get home you know you got the short trip to LA on Thursday you got a back to back coming up next week like you’ve got you’ve got a tough you got a

Tough road ahead um but a lot of it is going to be at home your fir you know even that even that road game in the middle of the week it’s a it’s a quick shot down to LA and you’re right back yeah um doesn’t mean it’s easy it’s just

You’re not you’re not off to Toronto um I thought that was a great I thought that was a great point just get through these two games get get through Denver get through Minnesota uh get back home to the golden one Center you have to start taking care of business

Regardless of what happens tonight you’ve got to start taking care of business that’s the most important thing with this season is what they do with these 15 home games you know if they can if they can take advantage of that um and and like I said get I said it the

Other day 10 and five and all maybe probably 11 11 and four or something at that and those 15 they home games but as as I talked through it a little bit more today as well that probably I’m not saying that was their goal but if we looked at this thing realistically

Looking at the schedule and just stay in the race keep your head above water for January and February that’s a long time that’s two months to be like keep your head above water but do that so you can you know so you’re not completely behind the

Eightball by the time you get to March which is when you that’s the time to make your your move you know it’s like the um the the the horse and the the jockey and the Kentucky Derby or whatever where he’s not sounds terrible but he’s not whipping the

Horse just well that’s what they do right what is it with you in these references man is that what they do I mean it is you they don’t they don’t really talk about it either but that is what they do so is that how you

Get you know someone to do what you want you whip them is that what you’re saying Kenny wow we’re one day out of February Kenny we’re one day out of February when you when you hit the horse Okay so so now we’re hitting horses when you hit the horse they’re

Not doing that in the in the first quarter of the the the track but when you I hate that I know what analogy you’re trying to make it really pisses when you would you get past the halfway mark and you’re coming up on that last bin that’s when you start hitting the

Horse you I really wish you would work this through in your head before you set it Happ maybe smacking the horse or something this is exactly what happens that’s where the kings are they’re in their final Bend right now with with 15 home games to go so

Who so who’s who’s who’s whipping the players Casey dearon or Mike okay I guess as long as it’s not Monty man this feels like a good time for a break yeah case she’s got a lot of animal references boy throwing Rats on the table shout out Guru shout out Guru right on the

Table beating dead horses kill two birds and one stone dog yeah we know how the birds feel about this guy well oh well well look man hey they’re living in harmony right now I don’t do nothing to those birds I don’t do nothing to them when the weather gets hot though they I

Don’t know what they be doing well CJ brings up the great Plantation vacation that you took how can we don’t don’t don’t what you told us about it yeah I didn’t take a vacation on a plantation I think you told us that story no I was on a vacation in the boat

That went down the Mississippi River my God Sacramento sports we’ll be back I love when Jesse throws the break it’s so good that’s hilarious I didn’t even catch that the bolt that took us to the plantation what’s the problem what a [ __ ] show we have here goodness they actually heard you

This time well good that was insightful can he’s taken to us to a don’t trust this guy goodness gracious Casey is the bird flu to real birds oh man oh my god oh yeah I’m with you yep yeah I think so too I think so

Too I’m not sure what to think man I feel like it’s setting up the tag like the Rock and Cody oneon-one I mean I like it I just I don’t think that’s what there I feel like that that call out was used to set up the tag

But I’m excited to see where it goes I just can’t Envision the I can’t Envision The Rock doing a one-on-one match with Cody and then when when do you do that this is real we need ALR J to change his name back it’s like a bad it’s like a bad bits mcmah gimmick

Change right now yeah I don’t like it I don’t know what happened Aldren we’re we’re trying to figure it out yeah we tried looking for you um we couldn’t find you we couldn’t I don’t know what happened and I know it was an accident we’ll we’ll figure it out man um

Hopefully hopefully it just reappears tomorrow I don’t I don’t know man we cannot find it anywhere so I didn’t no n I’m with you that sounded weird no I’m with you I didn’t watch it either I didn’t I didn’t I didn’t see what it was but I know he’s

On Smackdown tonight so we’ll figure it out this will always be the best reference for like bad gimmick changes and all that always that’s hilarious AJ is the Lord Tensai of aldron J just throw some tattoos on that’s [ __ ] awesome well that’s what we do here in Sacramento we traded Aldren Jay’s

Account for cash considerations oh man this is so [ __ ] funny and you know what shout out to John Cena for putting him over lord T really he put over freaking Albert with some fake tattoos who became a dancing something with Broadus clay didn’t he was he part of that I think

So like the like didn’t I know I know maybe that was early stages of that game MCD I don’t remember but Tensai died like Tensai like didn’t make it oh no yeah cuz he was doing the silly stuff after yeah yeah he was still T he doing

The silly stuff I think like you said they call them like funky te or something like that something yeah yeah oh man James Ham’s gonna join us in just a few minutes I love James so much but every time we have days like this I always think all right James

Gonna be here in 15 minutes all the Fun’s gonna end Jame James real this in James James really James has got three hours worth of work to do to pull this show back together well we did it was it on Wednesday or Monday or whatever James your thoughts on the

Upcoming WrestleMania card no no no no not going to do it we got Ramsey on the line by the way oh let’s talk to Ramsey 916 is Kenny okay I don’t what is he doing I don’t know where he’s at ramsy what’s going on man not too much I

Was like looking like we’re Kenny at I have no idea like he’s not even in sight he hey he might have really just dipped out on us he really like he just come walking back in on his phone yeah he’s just chilling on his phone like he

Texting right now has NOA idea it’s a wild dude yeah I just wanted I mean because it happened yesterday and I know didn’t know if we’re gonna get a chance to talk about it Where What Where do we feel Kiton Clark’s gonna land when she gets

To the NBA and potentially a number one draft with IND Indiana I think it’s gonna be a I think it’s gonna be a nice mesh if she can mesh with her and aiyah Boston on that Indiana team yeah I I mean she’s goingon to be a star like

Indiana needs to clean it up like they they’ve been bad for too long like they they’ve this this and and and part of the this is the you know Indiana’s kind of living in that Minnesota world where like if you’re bad long enough you’re gonna get a couple of stars and you can

Start to you know you can piece it together um I need Indiana to be better they’re going to sell tickets they’re going to be on National Television uh they’re going to be box office um cait is going to be a great WNBA player she’s going to be a great WNBA player but at

The same time that first year is going to be tough because they’re coming for her like they like they like the ASAS the uh you could the whole list the kelse everybody they’re coming for it oh okay Golden Child let’s go oh you broke my you broke my record okay I got you

Yeah yeah no they gonna be gunning for she’s going to be a great ball player I just need Indiana to put that Squad together and they shouldn’t be a San Antonio they shouldn’t be an figurative 11- win team next year 12- win team you know 60 games into the

Season like the WNBA equivalent they shouldn’t be that they should be better than that and they need to work to be better than that heading into free agency I was listening to Bill Simmons yes it was of course no we we knew make me sick uhuh they were

Having a good uh conversation because he he had a Chuck Close To Men on there and they always just kind of talk about like big picture stuff they were talking about women’s basketball and they were just kind of comparing what happened last year to Magic and Larry to a certain degree

Obviously that was like the biggest I think it’s still like the biggest viewed NCAA tour yeah yeah um and they were comparing that moment as that like college basketball was huge those two stars whatever the case may be in men’s college basketball for a long time was in some ways bigger than the

NBA till till Mike really got cooking like late 80s early 90s and then obviously start winning championships and it went Dream Team all that it went to another level but but they they wondered if what happened last year with the finals and the final four just in general Caitlyn uh Angel JuJu’s coming

Down the coaches Kimi Don uh Coach K Gino all these other people where that’s going to be the dominant college basketball game out you know bigger than the men’s and in 10 to 12 years will the WNBA do kind of like what the NBA did after magic and bird where they’ll take

Over as the the dominant women’s the women’s college basketball is in the league but you know what I’m saying like it’ll be the WNBA because I think even like for three years it’s still gonna be College women’s college basketball bigger than the WNBA when will that flip essentially is

What they were saying they said it might be 10 years from now will it ever flip you’re asking when the W WNBA will be bigger than women’s college basketball or oh I think honestly I don’t know because like I’m getting into it now like once Caitlin and Angel ree

Get into the wmb I feel like people will be more tapped in and stuff like that because you’ll have like the stars there’s always a next though that’s the thing about women’s college basketball maybe a little bit more so than men’s is there’s always a next and if there’s not

Like a next right now there’s a next like because you have sophomore you have freshman and sophomores and Junior like you have players around and because you have programs you have South Carolinas you still to a certain degree have tennesses and Notre Dame and stanfords and dukes and Yukons and those are those

Are you know full transparency those are Dawn and caras and Goos and taras uh it’s not muffin anymore uh I forgot that Notre Dame’s coach’s name black woman too it is it is um I forgot her name now though but yes it is Jaden Ivy’s mom

Um it’s Nile Ivy okay thank you that’s thank you um that draws and if you got eyeballs on it you’ll find a star and you’ll you’ll you’ll stay have an eyeballs on you gotta catch Don walking up and down the sideline Louis Vuitton shout out shout out Don shout out

Don Don’s my girl I like Don except um obviously she’s a Philly girl and she reps everything Philly damn it when the height of me hating the Eagles here I Gotta See Don’s Instagram she got her Eagles jersey I’m like come on man come on man I ain’t

Trying coached in a Randle Cunningham Jersey remember yeah yeah yeah yeah but that’s that’s my girl Don Staley but it’s the continuity that women’s college basketball will have that men college basketball does not and you know I I I a lot of people like to look at it like

The the talent level I don’t think that I think people are playing good basketball I don’t know if it’s not here to say it’s as good as 15 years ago or not I think this is the best we’ve ever seen the well no I’m talking about men’s

Oh men I I’m not here to say if it’s it’s better or the same or not but I still think the kids can play those those those guys can play basketball and I I watch them and I see skill level out out there uh but the they they lack the

Continuity with the coaches and with the with the players every year it’s almost like a new team like how I’m a Michigan fan I probably have watched Michigan three times this year first of all they’re not very good second of all I don’t know who I don’t know who any of

These kids are yeah it’s hard I don’t know who any of them are the last Michigan team that really stayed around Trey Burke was there for a couple years Nick stalis was there for a couple years Tim Hardway Jr was there for like three years you know and you would essentially

Watch these kids grow up and they’ll have that at least so that’s the question right now they’ll have that in women’s basketball will it get to a point where gu guu or my girl down in Ontario my little my little Kyrie Irving like girl is she can get to the point where

She’ll be one and done no we don’t know that like I don’t think it’ll be in the next 10 years yeah no why not I I don’t I don’t think the the league isn’t growing at that rate because there the reason the WNBA has a years requirement

So that’s they have a Year’s requirement they do that’s that’s what I’m saying though so they’ll have to keep that yeah and that’s what’ll help that’s what’ll always help the women I didn’t know they had a Year’s requirement well the reason but do you know why they have it they

Don’t have enough teams no they’re pay structure it’s like we’re not taking a 19-year-old out of college go get your we’re about to pay you now it’s probably upwards I I don’t know what rookie scale contracts are anymore I know they’re I know all contracts are higher than they used to

Be so I’ll I’ll mess around say we’re about to pay you in the vicinity of 80 to $100,000 not sneezing at that money whatsoever that’s not what uh the NBA dudes sign for when you are a 19-year-old signing out of college that’s not what that is they want you in school longer

Now you also have those three beautiful letters to Juju game changer and your your your your girl in Ontario nil Juju probably makes five to six million dollar a year those girl those girls at South Carolina get paid M those girls that you get paid so you can make a decent amount

Of money doing that and getting your education the that’s why you hear a lot about like Pat this was Pat’s the the the Hallmark to Pat summit’s career was always she had a 100% graduation rate that was you could talk about she would all she would take you could talk about

My wins you could talk about my national championship trophies the kids who come these young ladies who come and play with me and stay with me they’re going to graduate and her rate was 100% until the day she walked out that door it’s probably a little bit different now but that that’s important

They um because as you know the league hasn’t expanded yet like you could be a great college player you ain’t you might not go anywhere right right the NBA I wish they’d find a way to be honest with you to put a age rage restriction

In I know it’s kind of sacri they and I get it I’m not I I understand it you’re 18 years old you can go to the Army but you can’t go to the NBA I get it yeah but with nil’s in right now business wise best for business for everybody

Would be to have these kids stay in school and I think it’d be best for everybody involved now that the kids can get paid you let them develop their game to a certain degree business-wise with the NBA you build stars for three years part of the reason

Why uh the WNBA is going to be in such a good place and college women’s college basketball is good place is I know I’m gonna see Juju for three years at SC then I’m gonna follow that story what why do we love wrestling so much the story a lot of the times college

Basketball men’s college basketball has no story has nothing it’s a little Uzi vert song it’s just a it’s just there there’s nothing to get behind it you could build up did you just take a shot at Lil ubert in this analogy that’s not a shot but his songs are just Mindless

Songs that was great it just took a shot at Lil Uzi bir for no reason you’re not wrong it’s just funny they’re just Mindless songs and his albums are just just mind compation yeah a compilation of mindlessness that’s what college everybody with Nikki that’s fire well

The songs are great I mean a lot of the songs I like um but I’m not I’m not it doesn’t move me like the players might be good doesn’t move me to listen to the album right you know what I mean like I don’t need to see the

Whole season I think having these kids stay in school would allow everybody to benefit the players the college basketball game the men’s college basketball basketball game and the NBA I think everybody and and everybody’s Pockets I think would benefit as well I don’t know I highly doubt they’ll

Ever get to that point um obviously the C the new CBA just signed it’s five or six years right now or whatever and there’s no age restriction or age limit or anything like that but I wish they would I think it would be good for everybody involved uh Jill sent me the updated

Numbers for uh rookies in the WNBA 77,000 will be um Caitlyn’s salary next year $777,000 of course because of nil and this is another thing that’s brand brand new because of nil she has endorsements that can carry over I heard a rumor regarding I think it was Caitlyn pardon me pardon me

Things it was I think it was Caitlyn because because of the conversation we were having Caitlyn is headed to Jordan and she’s gonna make waves when they make that announcement so like some of these endorsements that these people sign in college can carry over with them

You know when they get to the league yeah um amazingly the box office that Caitlyn’s been um Jill says Caitlyn uh has got about 900,000 in endorsements right now that’s a fraction of what that girl at USC makes oh man a fraction now that’s USC that’s Los Angeles that’s

Southern California that’s Iowa two very different animals right here but it it’s it it this is probably a greater conversation about the inequities of nil and how this is really a bit of a mess across college sports um because you have figuratively you have two max players and one at

Minimum is making twice as much as the other but it has nothing to do with the sport that they’re playing right and their value to the sport it has to do with the school that they’re at and who’s willing to invest in that when you’re in Southern California and you so

Got so many very very very very very wealthy alums yeah you’re going to be able to get two million out the gate yep that’s for sure and she and the crazy thing is it’s just gonna go up because she hasn’t she hasn’t disappointed yeah she everything and then they said she

Was going to be she absolutely is uh speaking of 2 million out the gate that’s about what it cost to get James ham here to join us 1320 just so it was it was about equal to your contract if I remember correctly what James during his negotiation period said I want one penny

More than Kenny caroway we were like all right James we gotta we gotta do it um so here we are I got that Jerry Rice deal I’m always a top paid wide receiver always that’s a that’s that’s that’s see James won’t get this but that’s the Scott Hall Kevin Nash deal that’s the

That’s the favor Nations deal where if anyone came to WCW those two had to be paid more isn’t that what Bill Russell did with wilt too he wanted his deal like a dollar more or something like that oh is that is that is that true I didn’t know that I think so that’s

Tremendous I love that that’s how I’m gonna start negotiating contracts I want a do who’s the highest paid person here I want a dollar more than Stacy sir get the hell out of my office uh James ham with us here uh James how you feeling about the Kings and Minnesota

Tonight Minnesota is a team I really started watching over the last couple of months um because it was a team when they played the Kings the first time excuse me when they played the second time at the golden one Center I wasn’t really sure of like I wasn’t clear like what

They were and I’m much much clearer now about what Minnesota is and what their strong suits are what do you think about this match match up tonight yeah I mean I think it’s a really tough matchup for the Kings and we always talk about the lengthen athleticism of some of these

Teams that and this is the you know probably the longest team you’re going to face the one difference I think is I would point out that um I think they have a they don’t have an advantage over teams like the Clippers or say I don’t know the Pelicans is that they lack the

Physicality that we’ve seen from some of these teams that really give the Kings fits so while they are long and super athletic they aren’t a team that really bullies you a bunch and so I think that that’s why it’s you know they’ve split this season series and it’s kind of left

A door open I also Jade McDaniels didn’t play in the first game and that was a big deal Jade McDaniels is a superb Defender and he defends you know one through four probably and the fact that he can go out and defend dearon Fox is

Is a big deal and when he wasn’t there Fox kind of got loose uh the next time out it wasn’t really the same and so I’d be slightly concerned if if Fox doesn’t play because that means that Jade McDaniel slides over and plays against Keegan Murray and that could really

Damage what the Kings try to do tonight as well yeah I it’s it’s a tough matchup man it’s a tough matchup and one of the things that we we just kind of talked about we talked a little bit about yesterday talked a little bit about this uh this afternoon J was between the

Denver and Minnesota games I got the feeling that it’s just like man just just get past these games you want to win one and all this other stuff but if you lose both of them you lose both of them just get past them and then your time to make a move starts

When you come back home against Chicago with those 15 games uh in the final 23 at that point being at home that’s going to be the determining Factor factor of whether or not you can make this this playoff run get the six seed all this other stuff because you really January

And February in my opinion we’re just to stay above water and now this is the time to make the move yeah I’m with you on there on that this is one of those games you know we looked at this five game set we said hey if the Kings can go

Three and two in this five game set that would be amazing because it’s a really difficult set they win the first two then they fall apart in the next two and you’re looking at it like Okay can they hold on and just make it two and three

The fact that two and three and three and two really isn’t that big of a difference when you look at the group of games that they played you know when you look at that you know they had to beat the Clippers they had to they had to go

In against a really good Denver Nugget team and and got thumped so if it ends up that they they lose three games here I don’t think it’s the end of the world either um but you got the the Warriors and the Lakers that are now breathing

Down your neck and that’s a problem like the the kings are already they’re in very precarious position when it comes to like the five through six five through eight grouping where you’re hoping that they would somehow avoid the play in and it Be A fifth or a six seed

Now that that group of four is looking a lot more like a group of six um you know the kings are only a game and a half up on the Lakers they’re two games up on Golden State and while yeah they’ve got a whole bunch of home games coming up

And they’ve got you know maybe a little bit easier schedule it’s not an easy schedule like their schedule is still really difficult still top 10 most difficult in the NBA to finish out but there are winnable games especially I look at this next group of 10 this will

Tell us whether the kings are going to be a playoff team or not pretty much like a playoff like a top six team like do they have it like gam will tell you if they have a chance to make the top six well yeah that but I’d even tell

You this like I don’t like the Kings chances against the Lakers or the Warriors in a playin Series in a playin game because it’s one game and they have LeBron James and Steph Curry and they’re gonna get star calls and you’re not and so you’re gonna have to outright beat

Those teams if you’re going to make it and that’s not very very easy that’s that’s going to be a very very tall task if somehow it’s Dallas down there what’s that we got dearon Fox well yeah but the official don’t know that yet well that’s

A good point yeah that’s a that’s a good point that’s a good this is the NBA this is I mean let’s not let’s not act like everything is is on the up and up and easy peasy and and just straight I mean that’s not how it’s ever called so those

Guys are going to get calls and the kings are gonna have to win that game outright and that’s that’s a tough that’s a tough call so if I’m the Kings I’d really like to be the number six seed or the number five seed so I don’t

Have to worry about any of that I I I agree with you 100% but I also look at I mean you you got to play you like if you played um just throwing out A team out there Memphis you probably wouldn’t be able to play Bad and win it don’t matter

Who you play you gon have to play good and win and if you play good you should win so I want to avoid it regardless I don’t want any part of a playing just because I don’t want nothing to do with a playing I don’t want to see Steph I

Don’t want to see LeBron I don’t want to see Luca or KD just because they’re all great um but you going to play good regardless of who you play and when you play You’re GNA have to play good on Wednesday when you play the Lakers let

Alone a play in so yeah no ask I agree I agree and like but I think to win a plan you’re gonna have to play more than good like if you don’t bring an A+ game you’re going to lose and that’s just that’s the reality like there there’s no

Other way around it like you’ve got to play one of your best games of the season and if you don’t you’re you’re not going to advance and and that’s a it’s a tough pill to swallow because it has like huge ramifications like tremendous ramifications what are the so let’s

Let’s go over this because this sucks so let’s just get this out of the way what are the ramifications for the Kings missing the Playoffs well not not not the not the you know ramifications we going to work up in our head about the roster but the actual real ramifications that we know

Now yeah the real ramifications are that you you draft in 2024 and you have I mean it’s first of all it’s it’s not considered a good draft so you could say well at least they get a draft pick or maybe they could trade that draft pick so there’s

That um but the problem that you have is that you’re in the same situation you were this year where your future draft picks are tied up so if the Kings don’t make the playoffs then they draft their own pick in 2020 24 but that means that

Their 2025 and 26 are fully tied up and they can’t even trade their 2027 pick so if you’re going to make a trade with somebody if you’re gonna you know like if you’re going to go into a competitive Marketplace the best you can offer is your contracts that you have the players

That you have but you couldn’t really offer anything other than potentially a 2027 first round pick but that could also become a 2028 and it just limits who and what you can be and what you can as far as like a buyer in a in a very competitive market

And if you if you somehow don’t make I mean you do make the playoffs your 2024 goes to Atlanta and then on July 1 you now have 25 26 27 28 29 30 and 31 all of your draft picks to play with all your first round picks and there is no like

Encumbered pick going forward and that’s where it becomes a big deal got make we want to make the playoffs man it for for what you’re trying to yeah what you’re trying to as a franchise that you know you you want to make the make the playoffs because it

Puts everything on schedule get it gets things off schedule but we when we was talking about kle I don’t know how much it changes if you don’t make the playoffs like how how much does it really change because like I mentioned the the pick situation and what you

Could do your flexibility that that changes a bit but we just we talked about earlier if you Kings going to the second round this year you think they’re not looking at trying to upgrade at the shooting guard spot and possibly the power forward spot the following

Year I think I think it’s the same situation what you can like how you can get there may be different different but the writing’s on the wall well yeah but there’s a big difference between having you know upwards of four first round picks to offer somebody versus having like

Two I mean that’s that’s the difference and it’s not just two it’s two like maybe we can give you a first round pick in three years but more likely well it could be four that’s kind of where you’re at and that’s not a good situation to be in like you don’t have

Much to offer in in order to change your roster and you know I expect the roster to change too but like look if if you don’t make the playoffs nothing is off the table I mean the Sacramento Kings the same ownership group same people who have been here doing stuff for the last

10 11 years so like I don’t know what it would mean but I do know that you know we’re hearing today I know Daman you saw it on Twitter I I I’ve been hit up the same way you have like season ticket holders are seeing their season ticket

Renewals right now and they’re seeing a 20% bump for some of the seats and I don’t know if that’s across the board but this team is is charging fans like they did in the playoffs and like they did at the beginning of the Season like they’re a championship

Contender and that’s not exactly G to fly for a whole long time when uh when you’re not producing the way that it you know as of right now that a lot of people expected and now it’s up to Mike to make sure that they do and dearon and domas

And Kevin Harrison and like all of them everyone yeah everyone in the king’s uniform yeah it’s up to them to start you know producing and getting to the point where uh this team is a it’s a playoff team uh and and Kenny said a second ago like they got their work cut

Out for for them regardless of what uh happens tonight I don’t know if you got a chance to hear our conversation with Chris Beerman uh earlier today Beerman wasn’t super um I don’t know what the word I’m looking for is he wasn’t super encouraged by the way dearon looked at

Shootaround dear went through shootaround but he was like I don’t I don’t know it’s hard to judge dearon because dearon already kind of moves a certain way um it’s really hard to judge when you’re looking for something and uh point being Beerman didn’t sound super encouraged uh with how uh dearen looked

The shoot around today yeah I mean here’s the problem I would like to tell you we know exactly what you know dear has like they’re listing it as a knee contusion but we don’t know if it’s a bone bruise we don’t know if it’s a deep thigh bruise like there is no like

Determination on what exactly this is that he’s dealing with and so my point is I don’t know that there I don’t think that there’s anything structurally he can do to injure this thing further but you know I don’t like saying oh it’s a pain tolerance issue like yeah pain

Tolerance like it hurts so bad you can’t move that’s that’s not a pain tolerance issue so um he is wearing a sleeve um he does anytime he does get beat up like this he always walks very like straight-legged and unless he’s like in full game mode and like putting the car

In like you know fourth gear and like heading to fifth gear that’s when you start to see him like kind of move through that like if not he is a little stiff he is that’s just kind of who he is straight-legged stiff very slow very very slow when he moves yeah

Yeah no and I think like look dear’s gonna want to play he knows what’s at stake here he knows how good that team is and and just really the dynamic if you have Fox Jaden McDaniels will likely slide out and cover Fox that means that

Keegan Murray is going to have a lot of opportunity if you don’t have Fox it takes away both of them because because now Jade McDaniels is going to be the one who’s trying to stop Keegan Murray and that might be possible where if not it could be Anthony Edwards it could be

I don’t you know Mike Connelly Jr whoever it might be that would be defending Keegan it’s not going to be their best defender and that’s that’s a big reason why dearen Fox is so valuable to this team in every game that he always draws the most difficult cover uh

From the other team and it opens things up for other players well talking to Beerman as well um Damien brought up a good point earli where the kings were a little uh they were a little upset after the game on Denver against Denver for a number of different reasons

And Damian and I agree with him kind of took that as a good sign it was one of the first times this year we felt like they didn’t look at it as like oh it’s one of 82 or you know it happens it’s the league or whatever seemed like they

Were pretty upset and it was a sign to both of us that they understand the urgency of what’s going on like it’s not it’s not okay to lose any game whether you’re playing Detroit or Denver on the road or whatever to do what we want to

Do we have to step it up and and play every game like it’s a playoff game and that was kind of encouraging to the both of us you feel the same way about how they reacted to to losing that Denver game yeah I think so I mean I don’t

Think you should be splintering right now and you know I don’t love the comments by Kevin herder because the stats tell a different story like yeah he wants to be out there more but like in his 18 minutes it wasn’t good so um I don’t think Mike Brown did anything

Wrong pulling it was at like the 837 Mark of the third quarter he pulled uh Davon Harrison and Kevin and then you looked up like three minutes later and the game was like a 28-point game I mean it’s over and it was already 20 with

Those guys on the court so it’s not like things were going well uh but again I if you have an issue I don’t think that that’s that’s either the game or the area to really have that discussion with a media member um he was frustrated I’ll

Stall him out a little bit he was frustrated he was frustrated with the way the team’s playing like I I’m not I’m not excusing it James like I I understand completely what you’re saying but I’m also he’s frustrated he didn’t play he couldn’t help he’s also frustrated that just got their ass

Kicked no I totally agree and hey look he played 38 minutes a game before that so it’s not like this is like some Trend that he’s not playing and he wasn’t there to save the team um so but again I don’t want to see that splintering on a

Two- game Road Trip and like where you faced the Champs Who You’d beat three times already that year and and had a full arsenal players and went at you you know that’s that’s not where I think you typically would see someone voice our frustration that’s all I was saying

Because weren’t the Kings going for like a a three- game Road Trip well no no a three- game win streak or did they already blow the three-game win streak now all my games are running in together they were going for a three- game win streak when they played Miami that’s

Right that’s right um yeah so anyway like look I now they’re looking at a three- game losing streak yeah yeah boy things move fast in the NBA well they moved fast for the Sacramento Kings this has like been their entire season like I don’t I don’t know how else to

Describe them this is they’re consistently inconsistent they are um they are and I think we’re we’re waiting for something that we haven’t really seen yet this year and I think it’s that consistency whether the consistency starts tonight or it starts on Monday when they take on Chicago um

You know there’s a Chicago game next week there’s also a really really important Los Angeles Lakers game and then there’s the San Antonio Spurs who beat the hell out of the Oklahoma City Thunder last night who really challenged the Kings uh on HBCU night a couple of

Thursdays ago on the second night of a back toback so there’s there’s there’s going to be challenges facing this team but that’s that’s part of this you could do the old the old football gimmick like how many the Giants come to mind the Steelers there’s a number of teams who

Yeah the playoffs started for them in week 11 MH if hey you want to rally and cry playoff star for you right now yeah oh yeah no I said that earlier I said this is a playoff game well I stole your I stole your I stole your line then James there

It is thieving U yeah we were talking about it on the Insiders one of the keys to the game was like like look this is this is straight up it’s a playoff game like that’s what position you put yourself in and like you think you think

You want to if you want to be there you got to do what it takes to get there you’ve got to buckle down you can’t have games where you just completely let go the Rope which is what we saw the other night like whatever happened there I

Mean they were they were strong for about like 14 minutes and then it was just a disaster um but uh yeah this is a a Minnesota team that’s playing played really well all season long but they also they they’re kind of like the Kings they haven’t really been here they have

It was like the Kings last year where the Kings hadn’t really been to a third seed they haven’t been up that high in the standings in you know decades and so all of a sudden you’re in a different like area where teams are coming after you but also the the like the basketball

Improves from some teams the basketball goes downhill from other teams uh lots of teams start resting players and you’re one of those teams that is is trying to do something and you know if you’re Minnesota this is a team you probably want to focus on they beat you

At home one of the few home games that the the Timberwolves have lost but also it’s a team that you could match up in the first round you know if somehow the Kings do make it in through a play in and and they’re the eigh spot Minnesota

Could be the one they’re the seven spot Minnesota could be the two so you’ve got to put a your best effort out there every time you step on the court especially against a team that you know is going to remember what happens tonight uh so the streets were saying James

Streets you were pretty down on the on the Kings after after that nuggets loss for those who didn’t hear what specifically after that loss had you feeling like it was a little bit more than just a a loss or a one game situation it was indicative of a little bit more

Possibly um no I don’t know that that that that’s the case like um like that I I expected them to lose that game like I Daman and I both were on the same page with that game I expected him to to get blown out I don’t

Like the way that some of the players played you know I don’t I don’t like some of the the vi I mean certainly the vibe coming out of the game I don’t like at all um I wasn’t particularly um excited to see D sabonis

Go back in the game late and while I say that I was I did appreciate Mike Brown putting Keegan Murray back in the game because I understood that I didn’t understand domas going back in um we hav’t really well I mean I understood it yeah but I I’m not risking the reason I

Mean in all honesty the reason why you don’t put him out there is because at that point in the game if the other team is unloading their bench and you’re unloading your bench you now have players on the court that are you know g-league players or 2A players or you

Know sort of the back end of your some young guys that can make mistakes and hurt somebody yeah and one of your young players flew in and you know carved up your your star big man and he had to go get stitches um as far as like some of

The play like I wasn’t impressed with with Davon um you know that to me again it’s it has nothing to do with him making shots when he makes shots great I mean it’s like applaud yes but it’s just that he didn’t look like he was in the

Right spots all the time on defense I mean on offense I thought defensively he did what he could against Jamal Murray and Jamal was just too big too strong and and went over the top of it but on the offensive end he just kept like if he doesn’t have the ball in his

Hands if he’s not in a pick and roll situation he’s kind of in trouble and I was still surprised by it because you know it’s not like he didn’t know he was he was gonna start he had a good idea you know the Kings know a lot more about

Whether dearon Fox is playing or not uh than we do right now and you know so it’s not like Davon didn’t have an understanding but he wasn’t the only one like there were other players that struggled in that game that you’re just is kind of like look that was an

Opportunity and you didn’t really take advantage of it and I feel that that happens too many times where Chris dwarte I thought did take advantage of the opportunity before he got poked in the eye early I thought he was good and then when he came back in the game in

The fourth it’s like okay one man Wrecking Crew that’s fine um you know I thought he played better so um It’s just tough again like we’ve had this conversation too many times with when it comes to Davon and and I don’t think he’s a bad player I just think it’s a

It’s a tough fit and they don’t they just don’t play his style of basketball and you know that’s why I think that they kick the tires on Delan right at the at the trade deadline and they probably should have looked they should probably should have been more aggressive at that

Position we’ll come back uh James will tell us more why he hates the Sacramento Kings uh as we prepare for the Kings and Timberwolves tonight with a Ramsey too it’s like so more with The Insider from the Insiders our man James J ham here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN

1320 two things got to get up real quick AJ uh AKA Aldren they said they said AJ was the Lord Tensai gimmick switch of Aldren J and I I don’t have a bone to pick to you I don’t know why I said it that way

But I don’t have a bone to pick with you just two things so number one uh Aldren says Fresno well first of all he got on this by talking about this State football schedule is out I saw the same thing I kind of want to go to the Fresno

State game too I’ve never been to a Fresno State football game I definitely want to go so that’ll be pretty dope but he said it’s crazy to say Fresno State probably got the best foot football atmosphere and Cali n it’s probably the second best who’s the best let see is it absolutely still

Yeah I’ve been to game see SC it’s it’s a pretty dope I was about it was a random game it was like Arizona too so you when you talk about a big game like if Oregon’s in town or you know it’s SC vers UCLA I mean that’s that’s

Electric FR St is dope though I think they’re second I think they’re second that’s fair yeah cal cal used to have some good stuff going on too the one time I went to a cal game that was pretty cool did somebody get booted from the chat earlier have they been allowed back

In yeah that’s who AJ AJ is Aldren I don’t know down here not we’re not sure we’re not sure is he back or no yeah AJ AJ is Aldren got kicked out Aldren came back as AJ oh okay welcome back AJ he’s he’s back I don’t know I don’t know what

Happened the other thing uh AJ uh said or he asked the question he didn’t he didn’t make a statement but he said he heard that Fresno has the best met Mexican food in California they got some bomb Mexican food I think um honestly I think Oakland might have

The best Mexican food in in California I’m I’m gonna throw medone Stockton in there yeah Central Valley 209 209 got the best I’ve never had uh any Mexican food out there I Tred to avoid Fresno it’s too hot in Fresno it’s really hot I go I go there for some

Family stuff I enjoy my time in Fresno h enj I go all the time Fresno coming up for this uh this night for lovers concert good enough a good amount of people I had to go to Modesto all the time as a kid for family that’s that’s where my grandparents lived and and

Other family members and was not a fan of driving down there it’s a lot different now James give us another chance Modesto yeah it’s a little more developed yeah no it is it is like but my grandparents lived on a farm like by the channel I don’t like I don’t know if

You know what I’m talking about the big waterway that goes through the middle yeah it’s probably the TW talami River or something like that maybe yeah my grandparents lived like on the channel and they had a bridge that went from like the main road to their their

Property so we had to drive over the channel I don’t know Dam do you have any thought on who has the best Mexican food in California I do not I said Oakland I think California just in general like that’s right carins it definitely ain’t [Laughter] Bakersville yeah you can go just about

Anywhere in California and get good Mexican but if you leave California you get some really bad Mexican food that’s terrible I’ve heard San Diego too I’ve heard San I I went to San Diego I didn’t have Mexican food so I don’t know but I’ve heard San Diego is it Oakland

Oakland still got the best I mean Oakland got the the food trucks the Mexican trucks that uh go crazy barri of Mexican food is always solid yeah the little food trucks Mex they got some cool little spots out here in sack too obviously the restaurants but they got

Some little food trucks uh at least in South sack off a off a Freeport that go hard that go hard to thinking grounds you got hit super dadia and San Jose that’s the best spot right there I can’t remember the last time I was in San Jose we we’ve got to be

Talking about 1015 almost 20 years now I mean I did go to a Niners game that’s still Santa Clara though I Haven been in San Jose and since I went to um the Ambassador when I was in college shout out to the Ambassador e4s Club I don’t know if it’s still there or

Not why do you have a club in San Jose popping s like kind of popping just making sure we don’t have any updates still yet on in we’re back uh uh hammer hey guys before we get back into the Kings um there’s just some things

That we have to take care of okay simple as that um I was mentioned on on Twitter by none other none other than our guy Mitch he said at imk Diddy good imitation by Kyle great to have fun while my hip is killing me on my first day of

Retirement so then miss ma says happy retirement Mitch and Mitch says thank you Sonia still waiting on Casey and Damien to wish the same from their big chairs happy retirement Mitch I yeah happy retirement Mitch give him air horns give him air horns man happy retirement big

Dog it’s 6:30 eastern time do you think he’s listening well he sent this 21 minutes ago oh maybe he’s listening po guys on the DL happy retirement poor guy hurt his hip on his first day I’m not laughing that’s well that’s like the best Mitch story though Mitch

How’s your retirement going oh I blew out my hip my first day no I I I agree with this sentiment right here from David Jackson Mitch please Mitch please Mitch you you that guy man hope you enjoying retirement man enjoying the the grandson uh all that

Good stuff man Hammer I think you just looked up the injury report any updates there regarding dear Fox and Anthony Edwards no I’m still waiting for the updated updated oh the new one has dropped okay yeah it should have already dropped but uh welcome to the NBA I’m guessing dear’s a game time

Decision similar to what he was last time yeah is there is there a uh belief maybe from both you guys that you just if it if it’s a game time decision just don’t play him and wait till you get back home on Monday give him an extra if he’s sore

Like that give him extra two days or something like that I don’t know I’d leave it up to him yeah if I was the I’d want to play but that’s what I do then people you know you know but you know how people are nowadays they’re

Like hey we’ll just give him the extra day give an extra 48 hours or something like that yeah I feel like Fox though no I’m gonna play yeah I mean players know their bodies better better than anyone else so again this is a it’s a bruise so if he can play and he

Feels comfortable then he’ll play and if not I don’t have any problems with him not playing I mean like look I I once watched I think Marcus sorton missed 20 games with the with the Deep thigh Bru just couldn’t shake it and you know so if it’s if it’s something like that that

Maybe uh but you know either way he he hit knees pretty good with uh with hawz so yeah all right well I guess we’ll find out when the NBA feels like telling us this a five o’clock start what time is it in Minnesota it is a five o’ start

Tonight’ poor uh I mean whatever but poor Chicago Bulls fans and Chicago Bulls they gotta play a nine o’clock game tonight because they’re the late game on ESPN they couldn’t find a game west of the Mississippi that they could put in the late game wow so they’re playing at

7 pm Pacific in Chicago bizarre yeah that’s not great yeah um the uh the injury report just came out and it’s the same so they’re both still questionable okay yeah Deon can’t play I say Anthony that’s only fair that’s that’s that’s that’s only fair um and I assume all indications are

Domas is fine just stitches from the the young elbow that shredded his face like a old UFC fight isn’t it on like his forehead is he gonna have to wear a headband a night no I think it’s his cheek look like roads yeah kind of

On his his cheek so um yeah I don’t yeah I think do will be fine no concussion protocol concussion that that would tragic um like Mason Jones plays like 13 minutes in one game gets a tech in another and and cost you de demonus simonis that would not not be

Great um what’s the uh what do you think the message is from Mike there’s there was Rumblings that there was a pretty lengthy film session uh yesterday what do you what do you think the message is that he’s trying to get across to these guys right

Now I I mean at a certain still defense defense defense no if I’m him I mean at this point Ian somebody put out the stats when they score what is it 120 or more like their their record is really really good like he just got a whatever

The like the confines you’ve put on this team to to slow them down or to you know like the to take away who they were last year just like strip all that down right now just go just go play stop thinking just start just start you know playing

The game instinctively which is exact exactly what they did last year you know they it’s a read and react offense just go out there and and find yourself and because even if you lose this game at least make it a competitive loss make it a loss that you feel like you were right

There and you could have done something and so when you walk into this home stand that’s coming up and all these home games you at least have something to build on and and some sort of identity to build on and I’m not saying stop playing defense what I’m saying is

That this team should be in a lot of like high-scoring games and they’re just not and you know they need to get the ball out of the basket and get up court and they they need to like they need to get in transition as much as possible

And they need to play with a much more uh like a sense of urgency that we had just haven’t seen consistently and so that’s kind of where I would be if I was Mike um you know but who knows I mean I really do feel like they they’ve kind of

Made excuses for the fact that that their offense isn’t as good as it was last year and that’s what I look at there aren’t any reasons like you know there are reasons and there are excuses for me there’re there are only excuses why this offense is not high octane and

Flying all over the place like it was last year and that you need to get back to it you know whether it’s like more pick and rolls or more dhos or or guys just hitting their shots and they need to figure it out in my book yeah it’s

You worry about all that other stuff that you’re trying to improve on and all this other stuff you worry about that in the offseason of next year and maybe with different guys right now it’s time to get back to basics almost akin to what happened after the Houston games

Remember when domas came to practice not wanting to hear anything from Jake and uh you know talked about they had some discussions about the offense you know and a lot of people believe that he he talked about hey let’s get back to running the plays that were working last

Year it’s time to do more of that yeah like get back to what you guys are comfortable with what you know and what has been proven to be effective and write that all the way to the to the end of the season yeah I also they need to

Start realizing when like when someone’s got the hot hand and I just like all season long I felt that way that they they don’t know how to ride the hot hand and we thought it even with this uh with with the Denver loss man Keegan Murray

Was on fire and then you went away from him and maybe he didn’t do a good enough job to get open or maybe it was just situational but at some point it can’t be situational anymore you you have to actually force feed and say look we if

You don’t step up in this moment we’re going to lose this game and our best path forward is with you and so I think that that’s something that you know we’ve seen it even with Harrison you know Harrison finishes a game like six of eight from the field that shouldn’t

Happen you know if you’ve hit six of eight you need to hit 10 of 14 you know that’s that’s something that this team doesn’t do a good job of recognizing and maybe it’s that other teams are taking some things away but I just feel like this team is slightly predictable and

Slightly onedimensional when it comes to the offensive end right now it’s you know a ton of three-point shots if you’re hitting your three-point shots you got a shot uh but just like we saw in the Denver game where you know you hit seven of 10 in the first quarter you

Miss all your all 10 in the second quarter and the game’s over and you just can’t be that team this team was like way too good on the offensive end last year people forget they didn’t just they weren’t just a great three-point shooting team they led the league in

Two-point field goal per percentage as well and they got to the line a bunch and they hit their free throws the these are like who you were as a team like the the lack of identity still is still like slightly jarring to me who do you hold responsible for them being so

Predictable in the offensive ENT I don’t know like I mean I I guess it’s like certain like they now have a book on you for sure you know we talked a little bit about like the Miami Heat you play the Miami Heat you play them twice a year so

When they throw this wackadoodle like crazy Zone at you that no one else uses it it can throw you for a loop especially when you’re on the second night of a back toback and you didn’t have a big walkthr to like sit there and kind of figure it out and talk about it

And I think that you know the more you play against that the better you are against it and the Kings uh they’re a team that teams have now played multiple times they understand what’s coming they understand what sabonis means to the team and what Fox likes to do their

Tendencies and you know the you know the the dho that Kevin herder runs they’re they’re figuring out different ways to defend some of this stuff but at the same time I think the Kings have missed like an abnormal amount of open looks and so I can’t just blame it on the the

League figuring you out there are certain teams that know exactly how to slow down damont sabonis and but then you get to most of these other games and they don’t so you the Kings need to do a better job of moving the ball and and moving around the court you know they’re

They’re getting stagnant they they’ve got to stop with all that and they have to use Tempo use Pace get out move you got a fast team now James you you hit the nail on the head with my favorite random stat ever is getting the wide open looks and

They seem to be generating the same uh amount of wideopen looks this year than they had that they did last year they’re just not consistently hitting um those same looks for whatever reason and I I I do believe as long as they continue to generate those type of looks um you

Always you’re always going to at least have the opportunity you know that’s that’s what you ask for you’re going to get those same looks you’re gonna have the opportunity to knock them down will they knock them down we’ll see you know on a consistent basis we’ll see but the offense is

Working to some degree if they’re able to continue to generate those open looks no I think it is I I I mean maybe it is just that that PE players need to be more locked in and they need to hit their shots you know I part of it is

That they just aren’t as good shooting the three this year and then you know on the defensive end you know they’re still they’ve got things that make him a hot mess all the time but um you know the the Improvement the maintain and improve thing I don’t think at this point we can

Say they’ve even maintained we we’ve kind of hit a point where you’re looking at them in a different light than you did even last year where you know there there isn’t a lot of semblance of the same group and and the same sort of mentality so we’ll see though because

This is one of those games you know Kyle talked about this uh earlier the Kings every time they’re up against spots like this where you kind of just felt like oh well they’re probably going to lose this game that’s when they stepped up and beat teams last

Year and it’s even when they stepped up and beat teams earlier this year like like Minnesota you know they lost to two games in a row to New Orleans and they had that six game Road Trip and the last game of the six game Road Trip we’re all

Thinking okay final game probably going to get thumped by Timberwolves team that hasn’t lost at home and the Kings went in there and found a way so if if that’s who we see tonight like the gritty fire back at you Kings then that would be a whole lot more like convincing like

Heading into this final like 24 games and I think that’s the concern I mean you go back to that game in November uh when they beat the Timberwolves Darren had 36 in that one a lot of sh that was one of the best games they played all year that that

Game when they beat Minnesota they were they were fantastic on offense and frustrated them on the defensive end as well yeah and no Jaden McDaniels in that game no Kevin herder no who are they missing I think Keegan well there’s no Keegan huh there’s no Keegan yeah herder started Harrison started domas started

Because I’m looking at dorte because there’s a big zero in the far right column like what the hell is that Chris DTE played 21 minutes didn’t score I’m like wait a minute Kevin herder played who didn’t play Keegan was out in that first game against Minnesota and you got you got 10 points

From I I shouldn’t have chuckled away you got 10 points from Kesler Edwards in that game yeah from from domas you got you got that second unit played really really well in that game yeah but the king second unit hasn’t played really well in a while so

That’s that was that was kind of leading us to the next thing is it’s like that’s one you know a conversation we’ve had a couple of times this week and you know plenty of people have called in and said it felt like last year this team had dep

In the depth was performing this year it feels like I just I you know you pull up this past Minnesota game they win 124 111 there might not be very many games that you can pull up where it looks like you get you get damn near three guys off

The bench I say Dam near because Trey had nine Dam near three guys off the bench having double figures yeah I think the bench scored 45 in that game including kler Edwards who may not have played since then I don’t even remember the last time we saw Kessler Edwards I

Need to see Kessler in this game like in this game tonight like he he is a good match up because that’s the second time they played Minnesota jadeen McDaniels did play and he got loose he he hit the Kings for like 20 points um and and was

Really impactful on the defensive end so that’s a good matchup I I also I like Kesler against uh like run him out there against cat for a few minutes that’s not bad and they just have a lot of weird matchups too like Nas Reed is a tough

Guy who who is gonna defend Nas Reed on on this team I mean maybe Trey lyes but I don’t know that’s a tough one Alex Lyn time baby Yeah Carl Anthony towns was four or five from three in that game the one they lost one the one in

Minnesota yeah the one in Sacramento that was that was a frustrating game because they didn’t really Kings Kings were below 100 that was one of their games where they were below 100 and they had to like they they had they had almost a Miami like comeback to get that

Game to maybe like six or four minutes to go and then Minnesota pulled away again but they they struggled bench had 20 in that one versus what you say second to go James 40 in the first one 45 I think that was the number yeah they

Had 20 in this one um another big performance from dearon uh Keegan played really well triple double uh from domas and a bad herder game a really really bad herder game 15 minutes one of seven that was in the Sacramento Sacramento game yeah yeah yeah yeah they’re they’re

An interesting Squad I think again they don’t have Kyle well Kyle Anderson is doubtful tonight that can be big for the Kings too Kyle Anderson I I don’t know why Kyle Anderson gives anyone problems like I just it’s kind of like you know going up against a knuckle ball pitcher

Actually I it’s really incredible yeah his shot is really one of the most incredible things in the entire league really is Kyle compared him to Jamie Moyer the old pitcher who pitched till he was like 40 n and just like lob the ball like the whole time and you’re like

How in the world is this working and uh that’s yeah that’s exactly what uh what Kyle Anderson does he just like slowly beats you and it doesn’t make any sense I’m hoping they I’m hoping they show up and play well today regardless of who who plays I was really encouraged

And hyped watching the beginning the first quarter and a half on Wednesday and it was pretty defl in that it just died but you know what kill I was perfectly fine watching that basketball game like they’re playing well and then I don’t I don’t remember if it was a TV graphic or the

Computer I like oh there’s seven of 10 from three okay well that’s not going to continue so can they strike a middle point and the emphatic answer was no we’re going to go from White hot to ice cold and it was one of the we do this

How how many time we I think we did this one of the Detroit games I can’t remember which one it was where I think Detroit started really really hot in the first quarter yeah the the one in Detroit and it was like this that’s not gonna continue right they score 49 yeah

Yeah yeah first so I feel like Denver was like they’re not going to keep doing this and sure enough they missed their next like 12 yeah it was pretty brutal uh according to our friend Chris Beerman dearen Fox will go through his pregame routine before determining his status

Tonight with a left knee contusion did the same thing on Wednesday okay yeah well that’s what all right it should be an interesting game I I imagine Anthony Edwards is probably doing something similar I don’t I don’t Anthony Edwards roll is it is it the

Ankle from the other night yes oh it is okay I’d imagine he’s going through the same thing is this their first came back no they played a they played he played like the next night they had a backto back oh okay and he played okay but I

You know I guess they were still saying you know questionable okay they may have still had some adrenaline that that NE that next game um I didn’t know they he doesn’t really miss games yeah Anthony Edwards He’s missed I think three games on the season it’s a good that’s a really good

Basketball team I mean I know that’s a you know a dumb statement given their record at the top of the Western Conference but I think there were a lot of questions about them entering the year there were people dissecting their schedule like oh they haven’t played any

Good teams yet I wasn’t even sure who they were when they came to the golden one Center in December it was after that game that I like you need to pay a little bit more attention to the squad they’re good man Ant-Man uh the following night they played Memphis

Played 40 minutes 34 points yeah Anthony Edwards is playing tonight yeah probably he’s playing tonight all right well like I said they just got to play good more importantly just get past this game well get past itame get a win why not yeah get a win and EXT your day off this weekend

Sorry yeah so that’s the other thing yeah they they they have the whole weekend off you won’t miss anything we’ll be back Monday to get you ready for Chicago when we step out of Memorial Auditorium tonight I want to see that beam in the oh yeah I see that beam in

The sky one time there’s a lot of out counter coming out here for this concert I want them to see that that beam in the sky when we step into the Memorial Auditorium be pretty damn close right Prett close pretty close we can start like main chance as we’re walking in we’

We we’ll get F we’ll get sued we’re not allowed to talk at this concert tonight there yeah James radio stations across this region hate DLo and cases have to hop on stage sign language or something I guess oh we’re gonna be on stage we we guys don’t say anything

We’re getting big truck you guys can’t say anything that’s crazy every be like you can’t say a word you who we are what if we just start yelling without the mics does that count these people very confused with what’s happening here no they’re scared of us

No J well James this is what I encourage James hey hey that that that’s starts at 10 o’cl too by the way that starts at 10 o’clock oh this is yeah this is the that Ain that ain’t just 12 o’ that’s at 10 o’clock we had a presentation today in

Class where we went over graphs and what numbers mean and that when people tweet stupid stuff they’re gonna we’re gonna start throwing receipts out this James is a receipt and it’s funny because okay you know what we ain’t doing this no no we ain’t doing this this is how the show

Started this is not going to be how the show we’re headed into a huge night for DLo and KC and 1025 we’re headed out to the Sacramento Memorial Auditorium oh go ahead James put that on James put Fedora H oh yeah they’re gonna be Fedora Dow’s

In the house tonight Fedora Dow’s in the house tonight just relax let’s have a good let’s have a good Friday let’s have a good Saturday good weekend that’s what it is we’re gonna have a great weekend and I think we got Kings coverage coming up next we got purple and black uh

Pregame show on the way and then we’ll be back here on Monday MH uh to get you ready for a huge week of Kings basketball that includes Chicago the Los Angeles Lakers another uh visit from the San Antonio Spurs uh all during the work week next week so we

Have got you covered I appreciate you making us a part of your day appreciate you making us a part of your week and we will see you back here Monday beginning at 10:00 a.m. with the Insiders on Sacramento sports leader I said Sacramento sports leader that’s right ESPN 1320 bamos Kings light the

Beam Today’s Show title is do you guys see this bar I don’t even like I I haven’t seen that graph so I don’t know that’s oh well we gotta go James you can’t St but these I’ll just make this quick for you the this big scary blue bar here those are our

Numbers starting at 10 a.m. this starting at 10 a.m. this little bar right here that’s their number now there there’s we we’ve got multiple look we could do it again Steve ain’t gonna like that audience get a little bit older th this the steo and Casey and the

Insiders this little bar right here that’s now you want me to keep going yeah yes okay this one oh and you know what’s great about this you know where DLo and casy were you know where James and Kyle were right here you know where they were they were they were they were in

Las Vegas that’s yeah no no that that that bar right there that’s that’s them that’s them this is a top 10 station this is a top 22 station I will give every person in the chat who can name 22 stations I’m not GNA give you anything I

Just this this this is this is the closest margin this is 18 to 34 but I figured this out I figured this out what’s up good for them look at that number there they’re they’re now a top 15 station with that number hey good job good job you know what I figured out

About this though this is 18 to 34 you know where are you know where 18 to 34 is wave at them because they right there because you know when you create a profile yeah it’s in the profile all those people around here they have that number oh man I’ll leave this here for

You to review later James all right and saw one Charlie gets frustrated with me yeah he laughed he thought it was funny he might not think it’s as funny as a second time love you Charlie all right guys we’re g we’re gonna shut down and we’re running out

The door um if anybody’s there tonight say what’s up yeah anybody coming through but if they are man say what up say what up say what up thanks for a fun day man we love you guys we’ll see you uh we’ll see you next week and

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