First of the people (that I know of) who hold a vote to say they’re voting for wemby. Pretty cool even though I doubt he’ll win.
AccessEcstatic9407
He can’t possibly take the blame for the Spurs defense when he’s off the court, can he? That’s what seems like is happening. Compare the D when he’s in vs when he’s out. That’s all you need to know.
empowered676
I mean he changes the game from a defensive stand point all season. And probably to a dpoy level. There is nothing he can do about his team and when he isn’t on court.
His offense is what improved from mid season. So Simmons is wrong about that
Simmons admitted mid season he wasnt watching spurs games so his bad takes are inevitable
Ill-Celebration6840
No one wants to do the “swap them and what happens?” test here for some reason. Surrounding Vic with elite perimeter defenders and a lineup full of grown ups…hmmm…I wonder if he’d be any good.
Gobert is operating from a space without pressure. He doesn’t need to contribute on both ends, doesn’t need to be a leader, doesn’t need to field endless questions from the press pool. He’s gotta do the one thing he’s good at, and he has so much help it’s ridiculous. Is that not worth sizing up against Vic playing with a bunch of prospects, half of whom won’t be in NBA rotations in 2 years?
I don’t mind if Rudy wins. I’d just like to see a real argument for it that focuses on the specifics of his performance. This clip is good at highlighting this. Russillo watches games. Simmons runs a media enterprise and watches highlights. So Weird how their opinions shook out.
UTRAnoPunchline
Bill is jealous.
thered90
What is our defensive rating while Wemby is on the floor and what is the wolves while Rudy is on the floor? I don’t know how to get these kinds of custom stats. All I ever see is on/off difference but I’d like to see it just when they’re both on? If we are still in the bottom 5-10 then so be it.
currentlyRedacted
I thought it was Defensive Player, not Defensive Team??? Plenty of MVPs that I can think of off the top of my head were not on the best team that year. I’d have to do some research about DPOY.
bleu_waffl3s
Too bad they don’t have some sort of tournament at the end of the year to determine the best team. That way the awards can be individual based instead of team based.
-Gremlinator-
I’m always of the mind that team success should be irrelevant for individual awards.
Where did Inter Miami finish last season in the MLS? Was there any doubt that Messi was the most valuable player in that league? That’s how I see it.
aaronlovescrypto
Simmons salty af about Wemby all year
bballjones9241
Got pissed off listening to this
ThisRiverIsWild_
Russillo is right. Simmons is probably not entirely wrong but objectively Wemby is beyond logic. To move on to another award…think if in 15 years someone sees Holgrem ROY…come on…
siphillis
So let me get this straight: if Wemby averaged 30 PPG, the Spurs would have a strong record and he’d then be eligible for DPOY. So *offense* is the determining factor for *Defensive Player of the Year*.
And this makes sense to people?
texasphotog
According to State Geek Supreme Kirk Goldsberry, over the last 15 games, the Spurs have the #1 defense with Wemby in the game and the #25 defense with Wemby out of the game.
You can’t blame wemby that Collins, Branham, Keldon can’t play defense. Wemby has been the best defensive player in the league by far and no one else is even close.
So I guess this is a new thing or did he vote Duncan at the top of DPOY every year of his career?
Nkosi868
So he has to be punished because the rest of the team can’t defend?
Individual awards in the NBA are a joke.
Let’s not even discuss the leading scorer award.
BusterStarfish
Bill Simmons has degraded into a characteur of awful sports takes. He’s Stephen A. without the screaming. It’s a damn shame. His column on the last page of SI used to be one of my favorite things to read. I can’t remember the last time he had a good take.
BusterStarfish
Defensive POtY should 100% be based on a players splits. As far as the Spurs D, they have one of the top defensive 5-man lineups in the league. Simmons is a stooge.
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First of the people (that I know of) who hold a vote to say they’re voting for wemby. Pretty cool even though I doubt he’ll win.
He can’t possibly take the blame for the Spurs defense when he’s off the court, can he? That’s what seems like is happening. Compare the D when he’s in vs when he’s out. That’s all you need to know.
I mean he changes the game from a defensive stand point all season. And probably to a dpoy level.
There is nothing he can do about his team and when he isn’t on court.
His offense is what improved from mid season. So Simmons is wrong about that
Simmons admitted mid season he wasnt watching spurs games so his bad takes are inevitable
No one wants to do the “swap them and what happens?” test here for some reason. Surrounding Vic with elite perimeter defenders and a lineup full of grown ups…hmmm…I wonder if he’d be any good.
Gobert is operating from a space without pressure. He doesn’t need to contribute on both ends, doesn’t need to be a leader, doesn’t need to field endless questions from the press pool. He’s gotta do the one thing he’s good at, and he has so much help it’s ridiculous. Is that not worth sizing up against Vic playing with a bunch of prospects, half of whom won’t be in NBA rotations in 2 years?
I don’t mind if Rudy wins. I’d just like to see a real argument for it that focuses on the specifics of his performance. This clip is good at highlighting this. Russillo watches games. Simmons runs a media enterprise and watches highlights. So Weird how their opinions shook out.
Bill is jealous.
What is our defensive rating while Wemby is on the floor and what is the wolves while Rudy is on the floor? I don’t know how to get these kinds of custom stats. All I ever see is on/off difference but I’d like to see it just when they’re both on? If we are still in the bottom 5-10 then so be it.
I thought it was Defensive Player, not Defensive Team??? Plenty of MVPs that I can think of off the top of my head were not on the best team that year. I’d have to do some research about DPOY.
Too bad they don’t have some sort of tournament at the end of the year to determine the best team. That way the awards can be individual based instead of team based.
I’m always of the mind that team success should be irrelevant for individual awards.
Where did Inter Miami finish last season in the MLS? Was there any doubt that Messi was the most valuable player in that league? That’s how I see it.
Simmons salty af about Wemby all year
Got pissed off listening to this
Russillo is right. Simmons is probably not entirely wrong but objectively Wemby is beyond logic. To move on to another award…think if in 15 years someone sees Holgrem ROY…come on…
So let me get this straight: if Wemby averaged 30 PPG, the Spurs would have a strong record and he’d then be eligible for DPOY. So *offense* is the determining factor for *Defensive Player of the Year*.
And this makes sense to people?
According to State Geek Supreme Kirk Goldsberry, over the last 15 games, the Spurs have the #1 defense with Wemby in the game and the #25 defense with Wemby out of the game.
You can’t blame wemby that Collins, Branham, Keldon can’t play defense. Wemby has been the best defensive player in the league by far and no one else is even close.
https://twitter.com/kirkgoldsberry/status/1770201717503664598
So I guess this is a new thing or did he vote Duncan at the top of DPOY every year of his career?
So he has to be punished because the rest of the team can’t defend?
Individual awards in the NBA are a joke.
Let’s not even discuss the leading scorer award.
Bill Simmons has degraded into a characteur of awful sports takes. He’s Stephen A. without the screaming. It’s a damn shame. His column on the last page of SI used to be one of my favorite things to read. I can’t remember the last time he had a good take.
Defensive POtY should 100% be based on a players splits. As far as the Spurs D, they have one of the top defensive 5-man lineups in the league. Simmons is a stooge.