Rebuild vs Mediocrity: The painful struggle of Chicago Bulls fans | CHGO Bulls Podcast
They’re they’re 36 and 40 and they’ve been the equivalent of 36 and 40 since Lonzo got hurt 2 and 1/2 years ago that is so factual I feel like I am stuck yeah I feel like Bill Murray and Groundhog Day is that a worse feeling than being the clear worst
Team than feeling like you’re stuck in the middle it’s just like a different flavor of bad it’s worse I yeah go ahead Joe it’s worse I mean what would you I mean it’s a year-to-year thing but if you’re were the worst team last year and then you end the season and
You’re staring Victor wanyama that number one pick in the face or it’s next year and you’re staring Cooper like it’s a direction it’s a Direction look at some of the like or you got to be bad I think in a lot of cases if you if you want to get that guy you
Gota you just there’s no shortcuts so like I I think I mostly agree with you I think when they did the Jimmy trade Bulls fans knew what we were up against yeah like okay we’re starting over and it’s probably gonna be Rocky yeah and then it stayed Rocky a little longer
Than I think Bulls fans wanted to because Bulls fans are impa impatient especially those of us who grew up just winning the championship every year which was lots of fun um but the thing that I think some of us can compartmentalize and make peace with when you go through a rebuild or when
Your team is Young and is about development and stacking L’s and stacking Lottery pingpong balls for a season or two is you know that mhm I feel like there wasn’t a whole lot of optimism for growth with this we’re going to run it back a third time season
Mhm of lots of the same pieces yeah that’s harder to psych yourself up for it was demoralizing and and not just demoralizing but devastating when when you tell yourself all right I know that we’re going through a rebuild and it’s about young Talent developing it and
Probably racking up a bunch of L’s while also keeping an eye on that draft and then like when we did the draft lottery watch party between seasons 1 and two of Outsiders and we watched that Bulls placard come up seven at the seventh pick uhhuh I mean like again it
Was caught on camera you me and saine were sitting there in that bar you spilled your beer on myir I spilled my beer on your shirt because I had a heart attack yes you did of absolute crushing Devastation yes it was like in that moment I felt like the slow-mo rewind of
Ralph wigam getting told by Lisa Simpson like I don’t love you you can see in that exact moment when his heart breaks into a million pieces when you’re hoping for that payoff moment yeah and it doesn’t come that makes the rebuild Seasons harder but there is a purpose to
It I mean perfect example the Jubilation we all got to watch our CH Blackhawks crew experience sure when they got the number one pick and the right to draft Conor Bard sure sure that’s the plan the Bulls tried for a couple years and they failed at it very bad they they failed
At several times uh SE dra pick you you know I hate losing like it’s just not something I’m programmed to accept and I understand it in certain like when you tell me your your Clear Vision is we’re going to rebuild that’s different you’re telling me you’ve chosen a path okay
There’s your path you’re going to rebuild we’re going to start this over we’re going to do this right but the difference with this one Matt is and what I think is more frustrating I don’t think it’s because they’re in the middle it’s because they are wanting to stay
There and I think that’s the difference and because they’ve had opportunities to kind of do something to maybe lift them out of that and they haven’t taken taken uh those steps to get them out of that position so that’s why I don’t mind the middle because when you’re there you’re
Supposed to be making the moves to help lift yourself out of that middle and that’s the frustrating part they have not done that part is make the Right Moves the competent moves and the moves that everybody can see that you need to make to get yourself out of that
Position and then Elevate yourself and then move forward with that that’s what’s the frustrating part of being in the middle is they’re comfortable with it that’s it’s not being there it’s the fact they’re cool with it right that’s the frustrating part dude and I and I think it’s because it’s been now three
Consecutive years yeah where you see where your team is two-thirds of the way through the season aka the trade deadline yeah leading up to it 2/3 of a season is plenty enough of a sample size to know what you have yeah and what you might need or want to do in the final
Third of the season right in season one of this experiment of this roster that AK and Aver Le constructed I think Bulls fans were maybe frustrated knowing that Lonzo went down and didn’t know if he was coming back and that team like looked like it was good but not good
Enough we understood what they were because they were high in the East endings but they were mostly losing to the good teams and beating the bad teams destroying them and we’re like okay this team might be a first round playoff exit right maybe if they get the right
Matchup they can get to the conference semis that’s their ceiling right and they sat there and did nothing and said we’re good mhm then they did it again last season when I think a lot of bulls fans were saying this ain’t it maybe start selling off some of the pieces you
Can get value for and re orchestrate this roster this offseason but start now when people are throwing you offers for things MH and then it was absolute Deja Vu of the same thing happening this year yeah with the exact same middling results just one year fast forwarded into the future and
You’re like each time they decided to do nothing it made less and less sense that part that part and it makes and and you’re right it makes it seem like they are okay with where they are yeah which is being just okay barely okay yeah that’s the part that I think drives fans
Crazy yeah and and Colin I think that’s the c-word is content and just being okay with that and that will always be the forever frustrating part for me it’s not being that middle I would rather do middle than laugh because all I think of is teams like the Charlotte Hornets
That’s who I think of all the time who are always in the draft who always got a high draft pick who always got somebody everybody says oh they’re going to be the one and they can’t put it together ever ever they’re not they can’t put it together they’ll go to the playoffs one
Year and and then that’s it you know what I mean then they’re back to the bottom then they’re back in the draft and then they’re drafting that player and then it still doesn’t help it’s the same thing it’s the same vicious cycle cuz losing is a very hard stank to get
Off of you you can change it with a generational player but those are viewing far between which is why they’re called generation of players you can change it with that a good draft pick you cannot do that a good draft pick you have to build more stuff around generational you will change the
Mentality look at the Spurs you know what I mean look at LeBron look at whoever whoever you want to consider a generational Talent just look at what they’ve done starts mentally with that look at what Minnesota has done adding Anthony Edwards again mentality corre in a few years the mentality yeah no we’re
Just like a top seat in the west now and that’s his mental he’s he’s insane you know what I mean and he wants to win like that it changes with that mentality not good but a great mentality so the Bulls were in a position to actually do
Stuff to move themselves out of it that is again the frustrating part ladies and gentlemen we know what you need it and they wouldn’t get it or when they instead of getting it they got a generic ass version of it and and say well maybe
This will tie you over you know what I’m saying so and it didn’t work okay let’s go get drage you know what I mean like wait what no you don’t need you need some three-point shooting dog okay you know what let’s try it with Javon Carter okay
I need an actual shooter like can we get Shooters out here you know what do it that trade that line n we cool we’re standing Pat you know what I’m saying we don’t need that no we’re cool let’s go get Patrick Bev and we’ll move on be
Fine with that guys it’s that lack of recognition about what you have you know what I mean and and just being saying we’re all right with what we got cuz I think that we’re better than that even though everything continues to show you that you’re not we all sitting like the mayor
During CHGO Bulls Postgame following the Bulls loss to the Hawks, Matt, Big Dave and Joey discuss which is more painful for fans: rebuilding or continually embracing mediocrity? Each presents its own set of challenges for the truly diehard fans, so which path is the better one for the Bulls in their current situation?
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