TNT Crew talks Luka Doncic & Dirk comparison & the Mavericks
>> THE NBA ON TNT PREGAME SHOW IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY CARMAX. THE WAY CAR BUYING SHOULD BE. >> DO YOU THINK THAT LUKA DONCIC HAS A CHANCE TO BE THE GREATEST MAVERICK EVER? LIKE, OBVIOUSLY, DIRK IS WHO DIRK IS. >> YEAH, NO DISRESPECT TO DIRK. DIRK KNOWS I LOVE HIM
TO DEATH. RIGHT? DIRTY AND I GO WAY, WAY BACK. BUT DIRK WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO TELL YOU LOOK BETTER. BUT YOU NEEDED TO GET HIM THE BALL. THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE, YOU KNOW. AND THAT’S PART OF WHAT’S CHANGED. LIKE YOU NEED ALMOST HAVE TO HAVE A SIX, SIX, SIX, SEVEN, SIX,
EIGHT GUY WHO CAN CONTROL THE BALL AND GET A SHOT, YOU KNOW, OR GET SHOTS FOR OTHERS BECAUSE THE GAME IS SO MUCH FASTER AND SO MUCH MORE SKILLED. >> JUST TO PUT LUKA’S LEGACY ALREADY IN PERSPECTIVE. >> SO WE KNOW HE’S NUMBER ONE IN SCORING ONE MORE TRIPLE DOUBLE. HE’LL HAVE
THE SAME AMOUNT AS JAMES HARDEN FOR A CAREER THAT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE IN MARCH, HE AVERAGED FOR THE SECOND TIME A 30 PLUS POINT TRIPLE DOUBLE ON THE FLOOR, OFF THE FLOOR, YOU KNOW, AND WITH ONE MORE THREE TONIGHT, HE WILL SET THE DALLAS MAVERICKS SINGLE SEASON RECORD WITH 258. SHAQ, WHEN
YOU HEARD MARK CUBAN TALKING THERE, YOUR INITIAL REACTION WAS I DON’T AGREE. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT LUKA AND HIS LEGACY, IS IT TOO SOON? BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT DIRK MEANS TO THE NBA AND DIRK MEANS TO YOU AS A TOP 75 PLAYER ALL TIME? >> I WOULD THINK IT’S A
LITTLE TOO SOON. YES, LUKA’S PLAYING SOME FABULOUS BASKETBALL. HE’S A GREAT PLAYER. IF HE CONTINUES THIS, THEN YES, BUT A LITTLE BIT TOO SOON. YOU KNOW DIRK. DIRK DID A LOT. DIRK ACTUALLY PUT THE DALLAS MAVERICKS ON THE MAP. TOOK HIM TO THE FINALS TWICE, BEAT THE MIAMI HEAT ONCE,
LOST TO US ONCE. BUT NO DISRESPECT TO LUKA. THAT’S FABULOUS PLAYING. PLAYING GREAT BASKETBALL. BUT DIRK WAS DIRK. DIRK WAS HIM. LIKE THE KIDS LIKE TO SAY, IF LUKA WINS, IT’S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THEN. WELL, THEN THEY’LL BE TIED. YEAH BUT THEN WE COMPARE ALL THE REST. NO, IT’LL BE LUCA,
LUCA AND DIRK AGBAJI’S. TWO CATS OUT OF DALLAS. OKAY, HE GETS TWO, THEN. >> NO, I JUST THINK IT’S SO CRAZY BECAUSE DEPENDING ON THE ERA THAT YOU’RE BORN AND THE STYLE OF PLAY, LIKE IF LAMAR ODOM WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN IN THIS ERA, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT HIM AS ONE OF
THE TOP PLAYERS. EXACTLY. AND I THINK OF THAT AS WHEN D’ANTONI PUT THE BALL IN JAMES HARDEN’S HAND, AND THEN IT CHANGED THE WAY THAT POINT GUARD WAS DEFINED. LIKE LUKA PLAYING POINT LEBRON I MEAN HE PLAYED POINT. BUT PLAYING MORE POINT LIKE RIGHT. THE POINT
OF IT WAS TO PUT THE BALL IN YOUR BEST PLAYER’S HAND AND LET THEM DRAW MISMATCH. OR IF YOU DON’T DOUBLE, THEN THEY SCORE. AND SO I THINK JUST IF DIRK PLAYED IN THIS ERA OH, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YEAH. WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE? >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
>> I THINK IT’S JUST CRAZY TO EVEN ASK THIS. THEY’RE BOTH GREAT. WHY ARE WE ASKING WHO’S GREATER? ESPECIALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF LUKA’S CAREER? I JUST THINK WE BECOME VICTIM AND. AND PRISONER OF THE MOMENT. AND I DON’T LIKE THAT BECAUSE. DIRK. DIRK. WUN WITH NOT ONE ALL STAR ON HIS TEAM.
>> JASON. TERRY. SHAWN >> MARION. >> THAT CHAMPIONSHIP, THAT CHAMPIONSHIP DOES NOT GET CREDIT AT ALL BECAUSE WHO THEY PLAYED AGAINST. >> IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK IN HISTORY AND YOU SEE THE HEATLES AND EVERYBODY, THEY HAD THEIR SECOND BEST PLAYER WAS A SIXTH MAN LIKE JASON TERRY WAS THE SECOND BEST
PLAYER AT THAT TIME. YOU HAD JASON KIDD, YOU HAD OTHER GUYS, BUT JASON TERRY WAS GETTING IT DONE. DIRK. AND WE LOVE LUCA. LUCA IS MAGIC. HE THROWS OFF THE SCOREBOARD. IT TOUCHES THE GROUND TWICE. LIKE THE OLD LARRY BIRD COMMERCIAL WITH JORDAN. BUT RIGHT NOW, TODAY , IT’S HARD TO SAY THAT
DIRK’S WON. LIKE UNTIL YOU WIN, HOW CAN YOU EVEN COMPARE? AND THAT’S THE PART. BUT LUCA IS GOING TO BE AN ALL TIME GREAT. >> THE COUNTERARGUMENT IS LUCA IS ABOUT TO BE THE FIRST PLAYER EVER TO AVERAGE, WHAT, 32, NINE AND NINE? YEAH, AND THE OTHER PLAYER WAS MIKE MICHAEL.
MICHAEL JORDAN WAS THE OTHER. >> IT ALWAYS GOES BACK TO THE I’M JUST SAYING DUDE STATS. >> IF I HAD TO SAY MICHAEL JORDAN ALWAYS GOES BACK TO THE GOAT. >> BUT DO STATS MEAN TODAY WHAT THEY USED TO MEAN? >> I GUESS THAT’S THE QUESTION. THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING.
>> SO NO TO SOME THEY SAY YEAH. AND THAT’S WHY THEY SAY HE’S UP THERE WITH DIRK. BUT DIRK, UNTIL YOU CAN WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THEY’RE LOOKING AT THE SAME GLASS. >> BUT STATS DON’T MATTER IF IT’S TWO PEOPLE. I MEAN STATS MATTER IF THERE’S TWO PEOPLE.
>> CHAMPIONSHIPS RING OUT. >> I MEAN, I’M I’M WITH YOU, JAY, BUT I’M JUST SAYING LIKE MICHAEL AND HIM, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO. THAT’S PRETTY PRETTY RIDICULOUS. ALL RIGHT, PLEASE BACK TO 23 MAVERICKS RIGHT NOW. >> HOTTEST TEAM IN THE NBA. HAVE WON SEVEN STRAIGHT. WON 11 OF 12. NOT ONLY THAT
THEIR LAST SEVEN OPPONENTS THEY’VE HELD UNDER 108. SO IT’S NOT OUTSCORING TEAMS. THIS NEW TEAM THAT’S BEEN PUT TOGETHER THE YOU DO NOT WANT TO FACE LUKA IN A SEVEN GAME SERIES, BUT I DON’T KNOW HOW I COMPARE THEM TO THESE OTHER WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS THAT ARE LESS BEHOLDEN ON ONE GUY’S USAGE.
>> I DON’T THINK THEY HAVE THE SAME PRESSURE. IT’S ALMOST LIKE THEY’RE HAVING FUN WHEN THEY’RE BALLING TO HEAR LUKA COME OUT AND SAY, OH, KYRIE’S BATMAN, I’M ROBIN. >> THAT’S THAT’S THAT’S SOMETHING THAT A BATMAN WOULD SAY. >> EVEN RIGHT OR WRONG, FOR HIM TO FEEL THAT KIND OF
CONFIDENCE IN HIS TEAMMATE AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ABSOLUTELY FILLED IN BEAUTIFULLY AROUND HIM. AND NOW THEY’RE PLAYING DEFENSE. THAT’S WHAT THEY WEREN’T DOING. THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE MISMATCHES. KYRIE I FEEL LIKE IS GOING TO BE BETTER IN THE PLAYOFFS. LUCAS CAN CONTROL ANY GAME. EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT LUCAS PACE. WHAT’S REALLY GREAT ABOUT
LUKA IS HIS PACE MAKES YOU GO SLOWER SO HE SLOWS THE WHOLE GAME DOWN AND THAT’S WHY HE’S SPECIAL AND I THINK HE HAS PACE. >> HE HAS PACE IN THE, HALF COURT. BUT IN THE FULL COURT THEY’RE PLAYING FASTER. AND A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF KYRIE.
>> YEAH. BUT IN THE PLAYOFFS THE OTHERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PLAY VERY WELL BECAUSE YOU KNOW EVEN THOUGH THEY’RE BOTH GUYS ARE PLAYING GREAT. THEY’RE VERY YOU KNOW DEPENDENT UPON THOSE TWO GOING ONE ON ONE A LOT. SO YOU KNOW WHEN THE DEFENSE DECIDES TO SWITCH UP, LISTEN
THAT THEY’RE GOING TO TRY TO NOT LET LUKA GO OFF IN THE PLAYOFFS. SO IT’S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DOUBLE MAYBE A LOT OF TRIPLE TEAMS LESS SWITCHES. AND SO WHEN HE KICKED IT TO THE OTHERS, THEY’RE DEFINITELY GONNA HAVE TO HIT SHOTS TIM HARDAWAY JUNIOR AND THOSE GUYS.
>> SO YOU THINK IT’S MORE PRESSURE ON THOSE GUYS THAN IT IS ON THE STARS. YEAH THAT’S TRUE. >> IF THEY WANT TO GO FROM AROUND AROUND DANIEL GAFFORD HAS BEEN AN UNBELIEVABLE ADDITION DERRICK LIVELY IS COMING TO HIS OWN. >> THAT PICK AND ROLL HAS BEEN BEAUTIFUL AND KYRIE
LAST 12 GAMES AVERAGING 24.4 REBOUNDS SIX ASSISTS AND SHOOTING 51% FROM THE FLOOR. I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS WAS THE TEAM IN THE OFF SEASON THAT EVERYONE SCOFFED AT. THERE’S NO WAY THAT THAT’S GOING TO REALLY WORK, AND NOW WE’RE JUST SEEING THEM HAVE THEIR WAY WITH ANYONE THEY PLAY.
>> COULD THEY BEAT ONE OF THOSE YOUNG TEAMS YOU TALKED ABOUT? COULD THEY BE A TEAM THAT HAS THAT EXPERIENCE THAT COULD BEAT A MINNESOTA OR, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE TEAMS THAT THEY HAPPEN TO DROP? >> OH, LUKA LOVES PLAYING THE CLIPPERS IN THE PLAYOFFS, HE OWNS THEM NO DISRESPECT, BUT HE
ABSOLUTELY TERRORIZES THE CLIPPERS WHEN HE PLAYS. THAT’S THE TO YOUR QUESTION JAMAL IS YES. >> BUT THE OTHERS HAVE TO PLAY WELL. >> COULD YOU TELL WHEN AN OTHER WAS SCARED, NOT SCARED, BUT WHEN THEY HAD A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THEM. YEAH. >> AND SO WHAT DO YOU DO AS
A LEADER OF THE TEAM WHEN YOU REALIZE, AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TRY TO INSTILL FAITH IN THEM, LIKE EVERY NOW AND THEN, LIKE YOU CAN’T MAKE FACES LIKE DEVIN GEORGE . >> OKAY. I LOVE LIKE, WHENEVER YOU MISS, I WOULD MAKE A FACE AND THEN I HAD
TO LEARN NOT TO MAKE A FACE. AND, YOU KNOW, THE MORE I. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THE FACE? LIKE, BRO, I GOT FOUR PEOPLE ON ME. YOU WIDE OPEN. YOU’RE A THREE POINT SHOOTER. MAKE A, SHAQ. >> YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPEN. >> HE WOULD, LIKE GO INTO A SHELL.
>> YES. KIND OF. SO LIKE I HAD TO I HAD TO JUST BE LIKE. >> SO DID PHIL SAY ANYTHING? >> LIKE WHAT WAS THE REALIZATION? >> HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? HOW DID YOU FIND OUT? >> YOU JUST WATCH FILM AND YOU WERE LIKE, I CAN’T DO THAT.
>> SHAQ WOULDN’T WATCH NO FILM. >> NO, I DIDN’T WATCH NO FILM. I JUST KNOW SOMEBODY IN THE PLAYOFFS. >> I THOUGHT MAYBE, MAYBE, BISHOP, BISHOP. >> HE CAME AND TOLD YOU. YEAH. >> HE SAID, HEY, MAN, YOU KNOW, YOU’VE BEEN TOO HARD ON HER. NO YOUNG FELLAS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY THING
IS LIKE, YO, I’M. I’M THE ONE THAT THEY’RE WRITING ABOUT. LIKE, I GOT FOUR PEOPLE ON ME. I COULD TAKE THE SHOT, BUT YOU’RE WIDE OPEN, LIKE I’M MAKEUP. YEAH. YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH >> LIKE, BRO. YEAH, BUT THERE’S ALSO ENERGY WITH IT. LIKE YOU THROWING THEM THE BALL LIKE.
>> YEAH. NO HE’S TOUGH. THIS ONE. HE STARTED THROWING THE BALL. START BEING DEFENDED DOING THIS. >> LIKE WHAT YOU GOING TO DO WITH TRYING TO OFFENSIVE REBOUND BEFORE HE EVEN SHOOTS THE SHOT. DID HE MAKE MORE SHOTS AFTER THAT. >> YEAH HE DID OKAY. >> GOOD. >> MAVS ARE TAKING ON THE
WARRIORS BY THE WAY. WARRIORS FOUR GAME WINNING STREAK. LONGEST SINCE THE ALL STAR BREAK STEPH CURRY IS DISHING OUT ALMOST AS MANY ASSISTS RIGHT NOW AS HE IS MAKING SHOTS, WHICH IS PRETTY CRAZY. I KNOW TWITTER IS EXCITED ABOUT OUR GAMES TONIGHT. LUKA FOR MVP. IF YOU KNOW AN MVP VOTER, TELL
AN MVP VOTER WE’RE TELLING YOU LEFKOE YOU’RE GONNA VOTE FOR HIM. >> DOES HE HAVE YOUR VOTE? >> HE’S IN MY TOP FOUR. JAMAL CRAWFORD LOOKING LIKE ONE OF THE FIVE HEARTBEATS NIGHTS LIKE THIS I WISH THAT BRAIN DROPS WITH FOR. >> I HAD MY TEA YET. MY BAD.
>> THAT WAS GOOD. THAT WAS GOOD, THOUGH, RIGHT? >> I LOVE WHEN JAMAL WEARS THE CHAIN OUT. THAT’S WHEN WE’RE EXPECTING A BIG JAMAL PERFORMANCE. YOU ALREADY KNOW. THAT’S WHEN SHAQ ADVANCED TO THE QUARTER. >> TIME OUT TODAY, PRINCE. >> I CAN’T WAIT TOAKE
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To them Lebron has been turning back the clock and should be better basketball players at this time of his career due to experiences but Luka is better then him in every single aspect of the game. Lebron is considered by some is the best 5 player of all time. So where do you think Luka is ranked. I think he is above Lebron.
I never watch TNT when leftko is there booo
LETS
GO MAVS
Luka is obviously a better player than Dirk. It just kills sports media to recognize Luka even the slightest bit.
Dirk contributed to Mavs team success. Luka has yet to do that
Dirk supposed to have 2 rings But sum ref wants to gamble n throw games 🤷🏾♂️
old heads are alergic to giving flowers
Luka clear MVP
Lol what more do u need to see that Luka is a better player than Dirk? man, he broke nearly all of Dirk Mavs records already in 14 less seasons lol lol
Lamar Odom???!!! Wtf she smoking
I have Dirk number 20 All Time. Are we saying Luka is top 20 already without a Finals appearance or an MVP??
So dismissive
Candace doing hypotheticals THAT WASNT DIRKS GAME
The comparison to Dirk is nonsense. Luka should be compared to Harden and Magic Johnson. It's a little tedious these white guy comparisons. Bird/Dirk etc.
Shaq for once made a good point, it's the OTHERS for Mavs
Thing is, the Others have been amazing, Luka can't be stopped, Kyrie is pacing himself to show up when needed, the Centers are tremendous and prob the best center duo in the league. The 3pt shooting have been below average, but when they do hit shots, games like against the Rockets or Sac happen, if they don't, they still grind the wins out.
The win against Denver was them having a terrible shooting night, Denver was also shooting badly but that's because they have size to bother Jokic and Murray now.
Lamar Oden in this conversation???? 😂😂
Luka is the best player in the NBA right now.
Dirk has one of the greatest championship run ever…
Shout out to Lamar Odom
I’ve been a maverick fan all my life and Luka is better than Dirk. Luka is a playmaker and can do it all offensively but Dirk was so damn efficient. Dirk was Top 6 all time in scoring and 14 all star , MVP & Finals MVP.
you cant say luka isnt better than dirk and then go ahead and say "you dont want to see him in a 7 game series". ive been a mavs fan since 2000 and no one ever said that about dirk before the playoffs. dirk is a dawg though.
Shaq is right…let Luka cook a little more he still has so much more basketball left to play in his career…he’s well on his way to the hall of fame though…
Draythug
Dirk couldn't set up a offense or his own shot he moved slow
Lamar Odom she says… Woman 😃
Day # infinity of media's dumb comparisons
EVERYTHING' ALWAYS TRYIN TO TAKE AWAY FROM LUKA
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NO ONE IS SAYIN HIS CAREER IS OVER DIRK….
IS LUKA A BETTER…PLAYER…
HEs WAY BETTER
Luka's a better player, sure. He's more skilled. But Dirk is still that guy in Dallas. It's not just about the numbers. Heck, Luka can leave, right? Dirk put in the time, put in the work. He won a chip, an MVP, a finals MVP, in Dallas, and he stayed there for 21 years. Luka will get there eventually, but not yet.
But yeah, as a player, Luka's way ahead of Dirk. But overall, as the guy un Dallas, Dirk's still that guy.
Ok you’re the media, give it more credit lmao
People from later generations will always have prospects that are better than the previous generations. It's just the natural flow of things. A lot of players today grew up watching guys like Dirk, Kobe, Shaq, Nash, Lebron, Wade, Etc… they patterned their games to their idols and obviously that will produce an abundance of skilled players.
That being said, at this stage of his career, Luka is on pace to edge out Dirk as the best player in a Mavs uniform IF
1. He wins multiple MVPs (He's my pick this season)
2. Wins more than 1 championship
Shaq is right. It's just too early to crown Luka.
Why does my man in the beige suit look like he’s a kid sitting on the adult’s table. Got that big ass foot react so his feet aren’t dangling in the air. 😂
Luka mvp
Dallas would be detroit if luka wasn't there , both winning and being on the map wise
They are both white
It’s the racist jamal crawford talking. Sheesh
Old heads don't like it when a younger player is praised for being better than the old players. I don't know why, but it seems like if they agree to those types of questions. Then it will somehow also diminish anything they accomplished during those times. It's like a "I can't agree, because if I do it's like saying the younger generation is better than the old generation, and by saying that it will also make me look like I wasn't that good". Look, anyone with no ego to save and half a brain can see that Luka is already better than Durk was. But that's not a knock on Dirk because we all know how good Dirk was.