Okay but Kawh’s impact is bigger than Wemby’s and the clippers are better with Kawhi on than the Spurs with Wemby. So really no stats are perfect
ttttyttt678
Your on off stats are gonna look significantly better when your a good player with absolutely trash teammates around you/replacing you. Big difference.
figgnootun
Wembys massive defensive rating change is also helped bc when he’s off the floor Zach Collins comes in who’s been bad.
Gobert deserves it this season and that’s ok. As soon as the Spurs put a solid defense around Wemby he’ll win it. He’s definitely all defensive first team this year.
I think a backup big who’s a competent rim protector, and a veteran who’s a competent point of attack defender could get them pretty close next season.
joeske
Yes you are tripping. Without Wemby the Spurs would be way worse then the pistons
Nordie25
On/off numbers don’t matter as much as you’re making it seem. Yes he’s already top 5 defender but when you take his backup into account you can see why it’s inflated. Just like the Jokic on/off numbers with the nuggets.
Skip-Bayless0
Wemby is the DPOY and I hate that the media made up their mind in November
introvertedguy13
Dude almost messed up a 3on1 fastbreak by just standing there menacingly..
He should be DPOY.
Direct_Grade1942
If Wemby doesn’t win that would be the most NBA thing to do ever. He proved it and he deserves it whether he’s a rook or nah
Fresh_Silver99
Yes
hateyoutill4ever
Defensive player of the year has always been a joke. Spurs had a consistently great defense throughout the 2000s. For his career, Timmy is the greatest defender by defensive efficiency and win shares in modern (post merger)NBA history and he never won it. It’s a disgrace. So, Wemby not getting on a bad team with a bad defense, doesn’t surprise me. But that Timmy snub bothers me almost as much as losing Game 6 in 2013.
DirtyWizardsBrew
I feel like a player like Victor coming along has actually served to potentially shine a light on the inherent flaws with how DPOY has been traditionally determined up to this point.
The highly surface level observational method of Just going ***”best defender on the best defensively rated team”*** seems so outdated, oversimplified, and un-nuanced — in particular when we now have so many deeper stats collected in our current era, that can serve to paint a more specific, substantively detailed picture of the singular defensive impact of a player in comparison to the rest of the league.
I fully acknowledge the current traditional methodology for DPOY; I just think it’s flawed and sorta outdated.
bcvaldez
Defensive player of the year, should go to the best Defensive PLAYER of the year. Wemby is that guy, not only based on stats, but with the eye test. Gobert off the floor…the TWolves are still the #1 defensive team in the league….they literally have 5 players ranked in the top 20…2 of which are perimeter defenders which makes protecting the paint that much easier. Wemby went to a team that was statistically the worst defensive team in the HISTORY of the NBA…and they actually lost 2 of their better defensive players. Write whatever narrative you want, I’m going with the Most impactful single player in the NBA this year, that is Wemby and I’d like to hear the arguments against.
wanderinglittlehuman
People are scared to think Wemby can be the dpoy as a rookie, because if he wins it now then that means he’ll probably win it for the rest of his career. How do you compete with his size and mobility? It just seems too unfair.
davethesay
The best player on the best team narrative works for MVP, but not for DPOY.
bbernal956
lmfao spurs are worse than the pistons atm… prob second worst team atm..
sad_seal
Yeah but the popular take is dpoy goes to the best defensive team. Dumbasses go, “I value winning”. Ok ya when it’s close yes winning plays a part, but c’mon it’s night and day if you have two players to pick for your team and you want a defensive stopper who are you taking between the two?
OnlineWeekend
Lol guys give it up. He’s not going to win DPOY. All the arguing and analysis is pointless.
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Okay but Kawh’s impact is bigger than Wemby’s and the clippers are better with Kawhi on than the Spurs with Wemby. So really no stats are perfect
Your on off stats are gonna look significantly better when your a good player with absolutely trash teammates around you/replacing you. Big difference.
Wembys massive defensive rating change is also helped bc when he’s off the floor Zach Collins comes in who’s been bad.
Gobert deserves it this season and that’s ok. As soon as the Spurs put a solid defense around Wemby he’ll win it. He’s definitely all defensive first team this year.
I think a backup big who’s a competent rim protector, and a veteran who’s a competent point of attack defender could get them pretty close next season.
Yes you are tripping. Without Wemby the Spurs would be way worse then the pistons
On/off numbers don’t matter as much as you’re making it seem. Yes he’s already top 5 defender but when you take his backup into account you can see why it’s inflated. Just like the Jokic on/off numbers with the nuggets.
Wemby is the DPOY and I hate that the media made up their mind in November
Dude almost messed up a 3on1 fastbreak by just standing there menacingly..
He should be DPOY.
If Wemby doesn’t win that would be the most NBA thing to do ever. He proved it and he deserves it whether he’s a rook or nah
Yes
Defensive player of the year has always been a joke. Spurs had a consistently great defense throughout the 2000s. For his career, Timmy is the greatest defender by defensive efficiency and win shares in modern (post merger)NBA history and he never won it. It’s a disgrace. So, Wemby not getting on a bad team with a bad defense, doesn’t surprise me. But that Timmy snub bothers me almost as much as losing Game 6 in 2013.
I feel like a player like Victor coming along has actually served to potentially shine a light on the inherent flaws with how DPOY has been traditionally determined up to this point.
The highly surface level observational method of Just going ***”best defender on the best defensively rated team”*** seems so outdated, oversimplified, and un-nuanced — in particular when we now have so many deeper stats collected in our current era, that can serve to paint a more specific, substantively detailed picture of the singular defensive impact of a player in comparison to the rest of the league.
I fully acknowledge the current traditional methodology for DPOY; I just think it’s flawed and sorta outdated.
Defensive player of the year, should go to the best Defensive PLAYER of the year. Wemby is that guy, not only based on stats, but with the eye test. Gobert off the floor…the TWolves are still the #1 defensive team in the league….they literally have 5 players ranked in the top 20…2 of which are perimeter defenders which makes protecting the paint that much easier. Wemby went to a team that was statistically the worst defensive team in the HISTORY of the NBA…and they actually lost 2 of their better defensive players. Write whatever narrative you want, I’m going with the Most impactful single player in the NBA this year, that is Wemby and I’d like to hear the arguments against.
People are scared to think Wemby can be the dpoy as a rookie, because if he wins it now then that means he’ll probably win it for the rest of his career. How do you compete with his size and mobility? It just seems too unfair.
The best player on the best team narrative works for MVP, but not for DPOY.
lmfao spurs are worse than the pistons atm… prob second worst team atm..
Yeah but the popular take is dpoy goes to the best defensive team. Dumbasses go, “I value winning”. Ok ya when it’s close yes winning plays a part, but c’mon it’s night and day if you have two players to pick for your team and you want a defensive stopper who are you taking between the two?
Lol guys give it up. He’s not going to win DPOY. All the arguing and analysis is pointless.