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Detroit Pistons Beat Writer Kory Woods on FIRING Troy Weaver & NBA Draft!



Detroit Pistons Beat Writer Kory Woods on FIRING Troy Weaver & NBA Draft!

let’s welcome in our guest today all right he is man who covers the Detroit Pistons and the Detroit Lions yeah he is a a Swiss army knife and he’s one of the best in the state of Michigan at what he does and that’s Mr Cory Woods right uh who has been absolutely busy today especially with Troy weav welcome to the show Corey how you doing hey how’s it going Corey I uh you know you know what my friend this is something that you know it’s an interesting day okay TR Weaver he is out of here uh you know Tran langon first move he said adios Troy Weaver I’ll see you later what are your thoughts on that because I think it sends one hell of a statement to the fan base I think it’s it’s a great step one and is the I don’t know exactly who reported it and I I hate doing this and I don’t know if you know but the report that he was offered a basically a demotion like he could be in The Scouting department but he declined it could you kind of expand on that and just your thoughts on uh Tron langden uh yeah don’t don’t quote me 100% but I believe that might have been in um Jame Edward’s report that okay Troy Weaver was um offered a scouting role and apparently he declined it to um you know Paveway for whatever their change they’re about to make but to um answer your question about today’s news I believe you ask me what did I think of the move I think that it was smart and how the Pistons went ahead and rolled it out obviously we heard the reports that TR Lane was going to be named the new president of basketball operations and the way they went about it was pretty smart because if you were already going to make the decision to part ways with Weaver go ahead and let him get that out the way before his introductory press conference that way on day one when he finally does speak to the media and to the public for the first time in his new role he’s not he’s doesn’t have to answer questions about what he’s going to do about Troy Weaver that’s already been taken care of now he can go ahead and roll out his plan for the future and I think it wouldn’t it wouldn’t shock me that if they decide to also make the decision to part ways of Monty Williams that will also be behead ahead of that um that introductory press conference as well so that remains to be seen but I believe the way they rote it out and with all the news with trer langon being announced as president and then the the move to move away from Weaver smart move yeah hey Corey I I heard you mention Monty Williams there do you think just what is your kind of your thought process on that with Monty Williams do you think since they didn’t do it at the same time here with Troy today that that’s going to end up being something to where gets another year and like do you do you expect him to get another year and kind of do would you like that move to happen to keep him around well it remains to be seen uh just just the way they rote it out I again I I would say pay attention to everything over over the weekend because I guess we would be expecting him to be introduced at some point next week so it would be shocking with the way they did the Weaver dismissal it would be shocking if they decide to part waves with Monty Williams and it’s not ahead of that press conference that way he can just tackle everything as far as his new vision in one swoop as opposed to you know having the the Weaver thing solv but having to go into that introductory answering questions about Williams future and to answer your question about whether I would like to see him back I mean obviously I have no dog in the fight I’m I’m unbiased I’m a b reporter but at the same time you gotta look at it like this you the Pistons had a 17- win team last season and they brought brought back a lot of the same parts and told a new coach to do better with most of these same parts and 17 wins 14 wins I mean you’re pretty much arguing semantics three games ain’t really that much of a difference so I don’t think that it’s I think Monty Williams does have to take some accountability for how this roster turned out but I don’t know if moving on from him just yet would be the smart move because you brought back a lot of pieces from a from the second worst team in second worst record in your franchise history and expected him to do better it didn’t really make much sense to me so I I think he might be safe but again when you bring in a pres of basketball operations the way the Pistons did the way that many teams do that person whether it’s a man or woman whoever they’re were more than likely looking to bring in their people so it wouldn’t Shock Me in either direction I think if they do keep Monty Williams I’ll say maybe another season or maybe two that does give Lon a little bit of leeway in this role because the clock officially starts on him once he makes his higher for the head coach y yeah it’s definitely going to be interesting seeing how this shakes out with mon but as far as the roster shakes out one player I’m definitely interested to see if he stays or not is Jaden Ivy what do you think now that langan’s in house he’s going to do with Ivy well here’s the thing we see the potential that Ivy has when Ivy is hot Ivy is hot I mean he’s a he’s a very streaky player but and he’s and he can he’s athletic he can put the ball in the hoop but he’s also very inconsistent turnover prone he is be below sub 35% from Beyond The Arc I mean he did have that little flurry earlier um earlier this year but again he went back to some of his o so I think that if there is the a move out there where they can acquire an Allstar whether it’s a gar whether it’s a point4 that can help Elevate this Pistons offense and and provide the much needed much needed spacing that you you would want to have with a guy like Kade Cunningham being your facilitator I can see them parting ways with jayen Ivy yeah and Cory obviously the Pistons got stuck with the fifth pick again who do you want at five or do you think the team’s better off trading the pick well a lot of here’s one thing we gotta say we people have to really understand about trading the pick the Pistons still owed the New York Knicks the first rounder so you would need that pck to convey first before they can start trading any so basically what the Pistons will be doing is sh if they want to move that fif number fifth overall pick they would have to do it on draft night and basically you know select a player for whatever team they’re going into a deal with but having said that that being said I think it’s a possibility that they could go ahead and move on from that pick in the draft there’s been clippings out there on the internet right um You can probably find them of langon stating his theory about looking for a superstar in that in those in those first five picks and we know all due respect I believe we can agree that this draft is devoid of Superstars when you get down to that pick so if it’s for the so if they’re able to make some type of Draft Day Arrangement trade or whatnot that’s when I could see that pck being moved and Corey too I mean a guy who is out there and with the ties to Tran langan’s former organization Brandon Ingram and this is my question to you okay and I know you mention you already mentioned the draft night of potential draft ideal you have New Orleans who and I I talked with this uh about this with Anthony pistono so shout out to him on but on the New Orleans Pelicans they do need young Talent they’re not going to be able to keep everybody so they want to get a little younger is in your eyes and just from what you’ve covered what you’ve heard what what How likely do you think a move for a potential Brandon Ingram could align with now it’s kind of like uh the Brad Holmes when he got to the Lions made a deal with his former organization the Rams do you get that sense it could be opening to where they’ll have negotiations for someone like Brandon Ingram or do you think they’ll just stay away possibly because they do got to give him an extension as well brand well I think that it is very well possible just off the simple fact that the Pistons do have some they do have compelling pieces that they could offer the New Orleans Pelicans to acquire Brandon Ingram now that’s not to say that their Pistons have the mostra most attractive package but they do they do have one they do have the pieces I mean you have jayen Ivy you have some people may not want to hear this you have an assar Thompson you have an Isaiah Stewart I think if you’re looking to make a move for Brandon Ingram the one person the two people you would probably want to hold on to would be Kade Cunningham and and Jaylen Duren and maybe whomever else you can kind of get creative and I think that the Pelicans would will go ahead and make that move they’re going to need a new center with um valent chunes leaving and with um the emergence of Trey Murphy and berbert Jones Ingram is gonna be the odd man out the Pelicans have a very loaded payroll they’re gonna have to get rid of somebody so I believe the Pistons have a have an attractive um trade package to be able to get him and I think it would be a smart move to do that as well they’re going to enter free agency with roughly around 60 million and again just similar to the draft class this free agency free agency class isn’t as attractive and I think if you go ahead and make a move for somebody like Brandon Ingram you can absorb him into into that cap and then still go out and get a couple of B minus C+ players to surround these guys with and see what happens I believe that would be a smarter move than uh going out there in free agency and doing an overpay of somebody agreed yeah that was going to be part of my question too here Corey is just like looking at what Lon did in New Orleans a lot of those guys C.J McCullum Jonas valent Tunis um and Brandon Ingram like those are all like acquired via trade like which way do you do you feel like lon’s gonna take because we we saw Troy Weaver come in and essentially tear down and just go straight through the draft and obviously that didn’t work out as as we thought do you see Lon being like hey let me get my own guys in here and build through the draft or the other route of because he essentially in New Orleans you’re looking at their roster he kind of did both ways to where he traded for some three or four massive starting pieces and then the bench and a couple of those guys were all through the draft do you see him going one way or the other or like what seems more realistic now you you mentioned the 60 million here um in fre agency do you see him kind of taking one of those routes or just kind of going up the middle and saying hey let’s try both here like we did in New Orleans um well that’s a tricky question because we have yet to speak the lane to be able to see what his vision is but I believe when you really look at what the Pistons have right now I think the smarter thing would be to do to see who you can get through um through trades as Oppo again as opposed to going out there in free agency because here’s the one thing that people sometimes people misconstrue about the cap the Pistons have to spend the money they it’s it’s it’s they have to spend 90% of the of the cap I Believe by the time training camp starts or they have to write the league a check so do you want the Pistons to spend the money or do you want them to have to write a league of check and then you get nothing for it so be whether it’s acquiring somebody through trade to eat that cap room or going through free agency um they’re gonna have to use that cap up and I believe that through trades might be their best route to go I mean there’s a couple of guys out there but I mean you know Tobias Harris is out there I believe Oobi is gonna be out there do you wanna do you wanna um give this guy a a sizable contract to leave New York and come to Detroit but I mean they have they have a lot of options I will I think the picture will be a lot more clear once we have that introductory press conference with Langan and he’s able to share his vision yeah I feel like kind of the obvious question that’s still sitting there Corey is Troy Weaver’s gone thank goodness good riddance who do you think is going to be the guy if you had to make the the selection of replacing him as the general manager you know what I have actually I have no idea right now because again we’ve seen in the past people that have held the president of basketball operations role such as um St Stan Van Gundy and Joe Dumars they’ve actually been the deao GM as well so who’s to say that we don’t know we don’t know who know who’s to say that you know this guy’s gonna go ahead and hire a GM or is he’s GNA go ahead and step into the role himself there is there is some names Flo not there is potential people he could bring in in that role but again we I I don’t have a clue until we see what kind of vision he’s he’s going to have in his role and what his full Authority is going to be yeah because to that point too Cory it is it is true um because that’s something that we talked about earlier it’s like what he you know who’s he gonna bring in at GM but Tim Connelly is like president of basketball operations but really GM like he kind of has both roles um and it gives trj and langon more power so it makes sense uh I I do I do want to ask you at least uh moving forward you look at this you look at this team we have we we understand that it’s going to be a lengthy process there’s a lot of work that needs to be done um and it could be solved that they’d be more aggressive via trade Maybe they go get a Brandon Ingram like I brought up or anybody for that matter but and what do you what are you expecting in terms of free agency you mentioned going out and signing some guys some names that are just out there that do make sense I mean you’re gonna have free agents like possibly OG and anobi you’re gonna have guys like Malik monk uh you know buddy heel just to give you more of a lower end Gary Trent Jr what should the Detroit Pistons prioritize in free agency and then the two-part question uh C can you just reassure everybody whether you believe Kate Cunningham is a true franchise player it’s a two-parter I know but that’s something that people keep bringing up whether Cade’s that guy or not but first what should they do in free agency uh first off I think in free agency you got to go ahead and prioritize getting a guy like Malik Muk I mean he’s shown first off he’s he’s still very young I believe he’s around 26 years old maybe 25 and he’s has the ve the veteran experience that you need while still being young he’s had he’s incredibly athletic decent mid-range solid from the from Beyond The Arc which really really helps out with the Piston spacing and if you’re able to get a guy like him I mean heck Malik W could be your day one starter at shooting guard um with Kade with Kade Cunningham and if you still have Ivy bring him off the bench because again in this NBA you have to be able to shoot or play really really good defense to make up for your shooting and let’s just be real Ivy is doesn’t fit either mode right now and to kind of go with your two-part question we do not know what Kade Cunningham really is yet obviously we see that he’s um incredibly talented but when you have a facilitator and a playmaker like him surrounded by guys that shoot below 35% from Beyond The Arc that already one kills the kills the Piston spacing and you need reliable Shooters around a guy like that or else you’re not going to really see his the true fruition of his game come together he’s easy to double team on zero in on and which is why I believe we saw a lot of his turnovers to start the season because he had to overcompensate for what was not surrounded what he was not surrounded with like I mean heck look at a guy and I believe I believe um Bobby Mark said this when I had a conversation with him look at a guy like PJ Washington look at what he did with the Charlotte Hornets and then look at what he did comp doing now with the Dallas Mavericks when he surrounded around better Talent you’re seeing a different player so I believe when you when you surround Kate Cunningham with the proper spacing and and people that can go ahead and put the ball in the hoop themselves we’re going to be able to see what he truly is right now we just know that he’s he has the potential but we don’t know what he can really be at um and last thing I want to ask you here Corey is just now that we know uh trejon langan’s in and in the Troy Weaver situation now it’s it’s going to be official that he’s out obviously the Monty stuff’s in the air but just I want to know like initial here the the news comes out today what is your initial kind of expectation now going into next season for the Pistons I think a lot of fans a lot of people like listeners of ours are like kind of question all right where are we at now are we going to have another 14 17 wins or is it langed in where are the expectations now he comes in makes all these moves that we talked about here um and kind of makes that Improvement and gets to 25 games or TW or is it just hey let’s let’s be a little bit more patient now that a new guy is in here what are your expectations here for the fans kind of going forward U with with the new the new front office well I believe the the new front office is in a good spot and you know obious honestly you have to give you have to give some of this credit to Troy Weaver I mean obviously there were some things that he did not do well during his tenure but the new guys that are going to be coming in are going to have roughly 60 million in cap space a number five overall pick and some young Talent young talented pieces this was all done under Troy we were granted you know everything granted the 74 and 244 over the four past seasons is not what you would like but the new guys coming into a really sweet situation so I believe a fair expectation is to see this team get above 25 games that that is that I believe that is a very fair expectation you don’t want to we last time I last time I said that um this could get any worse is when they won 17 games and they followed up with 14 so I’m not gonna say it can’t get any worse but I believe having but I believe rebuilding by getting some smaller B+ C minus um not C minus B plus C plus players throughout free agency and or maybe acquiring that Allstar through a um through a through a decent trade that would be the best way to go ahead and build this team up to move forward and I believe that’s what Pistons should be expecting so I’ll say around TW North to 25 games can we can we just get 10 just give me give me 10 10 more wins ju just please please some ways the opposite of Rob perers no way no how some way somehow please can we just get 10 more wins Cory we appreciate your presence thank you thank you for taking the timey yeah you always gra time check out Cory stuff mlive.com Pistons Lions the man is versatile until next time Cory we appreciate you thank you so much thanks a lot there you have it uh yeah well it’s gonna be it’s great combo boys should be I’m yeah I gets we pumped up for the Pistons season I know it’s like we shouldn’t be but I I talked about it like since we started doing crunch time a couple months ago I did not want to talk Pistons until there was a move made I said either Tom Gore sells the team or Troy Weaver gets fired Troy Weaver is fired now it’s like actually I hate to say this I enjoyed a Pistons conversation there fellas now there’s a little bit of not light but it’s like oh there something happened

Jeff Iafrate, Booner, Lukas Klotz, and Michael Gentry are joined by Detroit Pistons Beat Writer for MLive.com Kory Woods to discuss what’s next for the Detroit Pistons after firing former GM Troy Weaver.

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11 Comments

  1. Kory made a very good point that I definitely agree with regarding Troy Weaver. Although Weaver's time as GM did not go as planned he did leave the Pistons in good shape for the next guy, that being Trajan Langdon. On his first day he has $64mil in cap space, Cade Cunningham already on the roster, no bad contracts, and a handful of young players still on rookie contracts. He can now mold this roster however he wants without any salary or roster issues.

  2. I think the Pistons should start off fresh get new coach ASAP is no excuse to lose 28 games in a row and they pay you top dollar to be here. He said his self is all about the money my humble opinion get rid of Monte Williams get a whole new staff.

  3. Get Miami heat assistant gm as gm rajon rondo as hc trade Stew sasser and Three seconds for Wiggins and Moody trade back in draft to 10-12 get kel'el ware resign fronttechio and grimes try to over pay og or pascal

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