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Chicago Bulls Turned Down Alex Caruso Trade FOr Top 10 Pick Due To Ownership Mandate?



Chicago Bulls Turned Down Alex Caruso Trade FOr Top 10 Pick Due To Ownership Mandate?

you found yourself on another episode of Locked on bulls and uh the Chicago Bulls are apparently turning down top 10 pick offers Pat we’re going to talk a little bit about that uh Pat may go off y’all I’m just warning y’all Pat may go nuclear also we now know some of the players that the Bulls have set up pre-draft workouts with and me and Pat like a couple of names on that list and then also the Boston Celtics win their 18th uh NBA I almost said WNBA yeah because I almost said WNBA I was like hey even I hate the S that’s wild oh we’re going to get into all that and more on today’s locked on [Music] bulls you are locked on bulls your daily Chicago Bulls podcast part of the lockon podcast Network your team every day thank you for tuning in to lockon Bulls member of the locked on podcast Network where it’s your team every single day that’s Pat the designer host and creator of the windy city Breeze and host of the Chicago Bears podcast over ESPN 1000 I’m Hayes host and creator of Chicago Bull Central and Chicago Bears Central YouTube pages and podcast and Pat it was all good about a week ago it really wasn’t has been good for a while there but we’ve been talking a lot about the potential of using Alice Caruso in a trade deal to move up in the draft or maybe outright acquire another pick well uh seems like that may have been on the table that the Chicago Bulls have been been according to will got Le uh were offered a pick in the top 10 and turned it down due to a mate from ownership to keep the team playoff competitive now to add some color to this we are on a new network next next season the new network is owned by Jerry Ryan dorf when you’re trying to adopt people to a new network it does help if your teams do look like they are competing on top of that’s just been Jerry’s M Mo since Jerry Was Born all the way back in 1847 with that said Pat how are you feeling about this news first and foremost um I want to apologize to Acme because I probably wouldn’t have brought as much slander your way if I knew that you were trying to work with your hands tied now I have to question every move that hasn’t been made or has been made based on the Rin dorf’s meddling my issue with this is this sends a clear message that you’re just trying to be competitive you’re not trying to compete you’re not trying to win enough games to win an NBA championship and when ownership puts that message out there what’s the point of of paying attention to the team what’s the point of focusing in on the games because the games don’t matter when ownership says we’re not willing to try and attain the best team for the season the games don’t matter next season does not matter it just doesn’t because Jerry reinsdorf isn’t willing to allow Acme who clearly has been getting these calls and surprisingly has turned them down right when you’re talking about a top 10 pick a top 10 pick you’re turning them down because you want to remain competitive next season and let not even ryes dorf’s this we know who this is because I’ve watched the Chicago White Socks I watched our window open up and then I watched Jer reinsdorf go handpick his best old friend to manage that team and immediately slam that door shut now I do want to add into this that this the they’re not saying necessarily that happened this off season they don’t put a time frame but saying that uh read the direct blur according to the source with knowledge of the situation the Bulls have received offers from multiple teams consisting of multiple protected first round picks ahead of the 2024 trade deadline of those deals included a pick that ended up being in the top 10 so it’s not that they knew it was a top 10 but the pick ended up being in the top 10 so maybe it has change now to where the Bulls maybe are more open to trading out I just want to throw that out there because there is that possibility I I like that you’re trying to add context and and make this cute it’s it’s the same thing that we’ve seen it’s the same thing Rick H went through you can put together whatever team you want there’s always going to be a limit on it SE the Bulls put multiple good teams together it didn’t matter the team right after the Championship team should have developed into a good team but you didn’t want to pay two coaches meanwhile all five of you starting five minus J Williams were all stars at some point in their career the team after that oh my goodness we got the baby bulls we’re building something here okay we’re making some things happen next team all right we got Derrick Rose in here H we can’t go out and that and and get into the luxury tax for a for a shooting guard why we got John Salmons godam no they did go into the Luxy taex for a shooting guard but then they iMed month and a half season but then Derrick Rose suffered another setback and they said all right well bet we Tri Tred to give it Derek couldn’t go no I’m not I’m not excusing it because to me again I I still think uh dang who was this who was the what was the name of the I can’t remember the shooting guard that we had the foreign guy uh Mario something Marco bellelli Marco bellelli yeah yeah yeah I still think he would have been he would have looked good really good next to next to Derrick Rose But ultimately Derek couldn’t stay healthy and the Bulls did what the Bulls do best and they said oh yeah that money that we were spending we didn’t like that too much that’s that’s the problem though you know what I mean like you’re you’re not trying to compete you’re only trying trying to compete if it puts you in the best case scenario you’re just trying to be competitive enough for people to show up by the way the people that show up aren’t fans N I say 75% of that building you got corporate in there good job you ever been me and you been to Bulls games right you sit in there it’s quiet as a church mouse for most of the game till something happen till the Bulls win or they put the stupid meter up there and they say cheer and then here come the video crew and they pan through the crowd then they put that out and be like great crowd at the you see tonight it wasn’t a great crowd you had a bunch of dudes having meet us it’s the same crap that we have with both sides of town or both teams in this town that are owned by Jerry rydor and it’s Jerry reinsdorf mandate I’m sorry this is this is I I almost feel bad for what AK has had to go through over the last few months because I can’t sit here and tell you how many moves AK hasn’t had his hands tied oh I mean AK also did come out and say that he had the green light from ownership even if it did mean a rebuild and apparently that wasn’t the case because you didn’t even have the green light to get a top 10 well again they didn’t know at the time it was going to be a top 10 pick but still I mean here’s the thing though how many green lights have been vetoed by ownership this ain’t new thing it’s not a green light it’s not a green light I get you but like the Zack LaVine deal veto why well we don’t feel that that’s enough now you’re never gonna get a deal any anywhere close to that and he hates he hates being a part of this thing like it it makes it difficult to go in next season as a fan excited I’m not g to lie to you because I know that Jerry Ryan dorf and the ownership group cares nothing about winning in this town they don’t care to spend money on players they don’t care to go over the luxury tax and I’m fine with you not going over the luxury tax if you don’t feel that your team is worth it but dang it make your team worth it well the thing is is I I mean the spending luxury tax is the end all be all I think what uh nine 10 teams didn’t pay the luxury tax last year about half of those making the playoffs it’s just about you got to be smart and so like it’s it’s a combination of you’re reluctant to spend money sometimes you have to spend money to get off of bad deals how many times do do we see a team take on some bad contracts for a while but guess what you get when you take on bad contracts usually they usually have to send picks to to to compensate you for that which then if you draft smart you’re you’re out of the luxury tax and you got some good talent here like nothing the Bulls do ever coincides with anything that we’ve seen typically work for these teams so it’s I don’t know bro this where we are it’s a bad organization you’re a joke of an organization you thought by changing the pieces around that you were going to be a better organization but there’s one piece at the top that makes it a joke it’s what it comes down to I’m sorry like the the the Chicago Bulls good job welcome to next season Bulls fans it’s gonna be the same welcome to the season after that it’s going to be the same stay tuned we’ll keep you covered like that’s what it is that’s that’s the organization that we have they don’t they’re they’re not looking to win they’re not look you got a ninth seed and somebody said I get it weaker draft but we’ll give you a top 10 pick for Alice Caruso We’ll add a top 10 pick in for Alis Caruso and your ownership said nah if we lose AC we not gonna be competitive enough I’m sorry were we did I miss this playoff run hey did we just lose the NBA finals I think so bro did I just did I miss out on this that we had my God yeah we just we just changed our jerseys to white and blue we were just out there bro we lost to the Boston Celtics we slept through the last month dog yeah yeah the Chicago Bulls made the NBA finals and they and they they lost in a tough six game series to the Boston Celtics we missed it at least that’s what Jerry reinsdorf thinks cuz he’s sitting at home half asleep eating his porridge trying to figure out when his next Matlock episode is coming on did you say por porridge and Matlock porridge he’s sitting at home trying to figure out which channel TV Land comes on that is hilarious bro not porridge this man said porridge bro it’s just it’s it’s it’s I don’t know bro I I’m I’m at a loss for word when I saw this come across today I sent this to you I’m at a loss for words bro I sent it to you oh no no no I sent you the other one never mind we we sent topics back it’s not good it’s not a good day here but uh but it makes it tough because you you want to get behind this team you want to root for this team you want to believe that something’s going to change but I swear prepare yourselves to become the Chicago White Soxs well here’s the thing that I’m going to say and just to end it on a bit of uh some optimism because I agree with Pat but I do want to end it on optimism maybe just maybe that they woke up if this really all happened around the trade deadline hopefully somebody woke up and said hey man listen we just turned down what would have been a top 10 we could have had a pick in the top 10 and top and number 11 uh but you guys wanted to stay competitive let’s do something different um but the chances of that happening well I mean listen let’s just hope that uh Jerry R gets promotion Alice Caruso still on this team yeah for now nothing changed I mean you can’t say nothing changed we we the offseason hasn’t happen yet we don’t know what’s going to change what changed Andre you could have Andre Drummond’s leaving Andre right what changed for the positive should I say like well technically nothing can change for the positive yet we got to see we’re we’re we’re set eight days away from maybe some change happening maybe only change that’s happen around here is whatever fall out of Jerry Ryan dorf pocket I mean that’ probably be a lot of money he probably walks around with with about with about 10 Jerry definitely keep nickel on just so he can give it to the hom we’re g go ahead next up we’re g be talking about players that the Bulls brought in for pre-draft workout get into one of the messages from our sponsors and that is FanDuel summertime means baseball the NBA finals and more you can bet it on all on FanDuel right now new customers get $200 UHS in bonus Bets with any winning $5 bet that’s 200 bucks you can use to bet on everything from the finals MVP to who’s going to hit one out of the park by the way Finals MVP going to uh Jaylen Brown there how you feeling about that Pat Uh solid solid I Jason Tatum finished with a uh I’m trying to do the math in my head I want to say finished with a nine uh plus minus because he had a negative 33 a negative 15 a plus 19 and a plus six and I think today he finished with another plus 19 so it’s not yeah Jaylen Brown been cooking all series Jason Tatum was like but two games though but he won a championship he got the ring shout out to him yeah he got the ring that’s the most important thing v f / lockon and add a big win to your summer bucket list FanDuel America’s number one sports book all right Pat so we got notification I you know what and I wonder if this was leaked out cuz this came out a couple of hours afterwards if they’re like hey man we’re getting killed right now we’re getting absolutely murdered right now because this Alice Cruz the thing what can we send out there that may bring about a little bit more positivity well the Chicago Bulls had pre-ra uh draft workouts today for a list that included Ron Holland tence Shannon Jr Ryan Dunn Kyle filosi Adam boner and Justin Moore those last two people I’ve never heard of in my life how you feel about that about those workouts Pat Uh pick the right one that’s that’s really where I’m at with it D like good job have fun figure it out and pick the right one I think there’s two names in there that I’m excited about I’m glad that the Bulls at least are sniffing in the right Direction but I mean they were sniffing in the right direction heck they were they were literally in the direction uh when the last time they had the Bulls had a pick near this High uh that would be the number four overall pick and uh they picked the wrong guy so pick the right guy this time like I I’m I’m glad to see that we’re looking at tence Shannon Jr I think that him at 11 is not a reach I think he’s that level of player I think he’s got that much talent in his in his game and I think realistically speaking if you’re looking at somebody with star upside not Superstar upside I don’t know if he’s got Superstar upside but star upside right now Terence Shannon Jr is the best name on the list I think Kyle philipos fits what this Bulls team really wants to do but I mean hell we we know the Bulls they’ll go out there and pick freaking uh Omar uh bookus from uh France and you like who the fck is this dude like literally what are we at two years in a row now that we’ve scouted over between between the two of us over 200 dudes and ak’s picked none of them yeah yeah it’s it’s been real interesting the and we’ve been right like kind of a lot yeah as far as our our overall analysis on guys yeah it’s been it’s been we we we would high on EJ Liddell we we probably but ACL yeah um so you know it is what it is when it comes down to that um but it looks like the thing with this is too is that a couple of these names are slated to go into the second round does this mean the Bulls may be open to buying a second round pick I I mean I think that that is something that we’ve seen the Bulls be be willing to do over the last couple of years I mean even going back and getting uh Julian Phillips last season so I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bulls tried to buy their way back into the second round um I think that this is a draft where it’s like role player Talent so you know by the second round you may be able to find somebody who for the cheap who is a a sleep sleeper pick that you can stash like we know there’s always a guy every year that we want to stash in the G league right so uh I wouldn’t be surprised if we see one this season as well yeah Justin Mora is definitely somebody who has that potential end up being that this is the guy who’s a senior uh from vill Nava villain NOA villain NAA what what am I yeah that that pronunciation was wild uh and he he kind of fits the mode of like a role player uh averaged 12 points per game during his 5-year career there 41% shooting from the field 34% shooting from three-point range taking five and a half per game uh I could definitely see the Bulls biting biting at that uh if he’s an undrafted rookie all right yeah that was that was close that was listen a little close there it is that might have still been crazy I’m not gonna lie what it is more I think about that that oh oh not that one oh a second and a little crazy uh no I I mean listen I think the the the part that I guess excites me about going out in the Bulls looking at these players is like I said they’re at least barking up the wrong tree or barking up the right tree for once and and it feels like you’re looking in the right direction for things that your team actually needs right like you need a guy who you can have as a for sure score that could be consistent I think Terence Shannon Jr can be that you need a big on this team that also can knock down a three ball I think Kyle philipos can be that at least you’re looking in the right you think H hitting the three as the bull’s next big is a requirement just just a question I I think that if you’re gonna go big man he probably has to hit the three because but but I will say this right like he has to be aite at something that you don’t have I’m not g to say that three has to be the requirement he has to be aite at something that you don’t have because to me right if you go Donovan clinging he’s not a he’s not an elite big shoo the three but there’s a lack of shot blocking on this team I think that he can add to that I think Kyle filipowski also can add to that in some ways right like so I think that to me if you’re going to be a big man like you have to come in with a calling card already and for me filipowski is the fact that he can knock down that three ball as the trailer and and take it off of the rim and go down the other uh go down the the other side of the court and be able to handle the basketball right so like I think you just like he can take it off the rim and handle the ball that’s why I didn’t say it that way see again back to you it’s it’s nuts out here hey yo yeah crazy yeah yeah no the Bulls got me all discombobulated tonight bro I hey that first topic really took the energy out of you bro it’s crazy yeah and it it just it pisses me off bro because it it pisses me off because of what we about to to to talk about right the Celtics winning their 18th title since I’ve been alive the Celtics have won two NBA championships they’ve been to five NBA championship they been five they’ve been to five NBA championships because they went to no four has Tatum been to three or four or I’m sorry Tatum been to two or three I think two right so they’ve been to four NBA championships since I’ve been alive um they’ve won where’s the third coming at so you had the Kevin Garnett team I mean Celtics uh Paul Pierce Celtics went twice I thought they failed in the e c for they win twice no they played the Lakers twice they lost once oh yeah you’re right I almost forgot about this I almost completely forgot about this year good point so it just it it irritates my soul bro when it’s like dog like I feel like this team like half ass its way to this point at times like you know what I mean it’s just like ah we kind of got there and the Bulls can’t even be bothered bulls have won and this is this is tough cover your ears Bulls fans if you don’t want to hear bad news bulls have been to the playoffs uh in the last 24 years and I believe it’s 16% of their Seasons or 17% of this season it’s not fun I’m 29 I’ll be 30 in a month you know what I mean like it’s just it it you hate to see team that’s just like no it’s okay we don’t need to compete eff it we’ll see you next year see no that’s the thing they compete they don’t contend like anybody’s every technically every team in the NBA competes competing just means you go out there and give it a try but see I don’t that that’s my problem I don’t even think you’re giving it a try giving it a try means I’m gonna put my best foot forward our best foot is freaking Kobe white see the problem is that we did put our best foot forward but the the the foot was fine the knees didn’t stand up we put our best foot forward but dang it that knee those knees said hey yeah no oh God I love hate this team hey uh let’s do this ad re man uh gota let you guys know before we talk about the Celtics in their 18th 18th 18th NBA championship we got six we got to let you know about eBay Motors passion drivve and patience the formula of winning championships is also what keeps your rid or die alive oh Celtics know something about that eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle and level it up the Peak Performance supercharges roof racks exhaust kits LED headlights and more whether you’re into speed power or style eBay Motors has you covered with 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like why why am I do why am I giving an F like like why why why am one bleeding red every day you know the thing that I wish Jerry Ryan off I know we’re here to talk about the Celtics in the segment but seriously to just Loop it all back the thing that I really wish that Michael Jerry whoever at some point realiz is that you’re going to make the money just build a team that wins like you you you the Bulls have such a great fan base bro they have supported the team through bull crap at some point you got to realize if you just do build something that wins you’re going to get even more money you’re going to get the money’s going to be there Jerry the money’s going to be there bro it took 12 years of struggle for us to drop out the top five in attendance you that that you 12 years you could build a whole Dynasty in 12 years it’s okay Jerry it’s all gonna be okay bro and that’s the part that sucks that I think that’s the part that irritates me and it does tie into this right the Celtics winning their 18th Championship the southst continue to go for it they continue to to risk moves they continue to say if we f fail this season we’re not going to give up we’re going to come back next season and try this again they they block out the noise Jason Tatum has basically been getting called a bum since he didn’t win an NBA championship in his first year trying to get there right like like he’s been he’s dealt with all of that and at 26 years old this young man just won his first NBA championship and he’s probably going to play at a minimum 10 more years that like if you invest in your product and if you invest in your team it’ll be a miracle what what you see happens around the city it’ll be a miracle how much merchandise you’ll sell it’ll be a miracle how much people support this team how much your ticket prices will raise and people will still come to the games and the problem that I have is like with all of this and and it’s probably the biggest problem that the Bulls have the fact that we have an owner who’s stuck in what worked for him in 1991 I I don’t see a time soon where we’ll be hoisting this trophy above our heads I don’t see a time soon where we’ll be doing a locked on bulls for a championship Chicago Bulls team at all unless by some miracle Kobe white turns into a superstar but I don’t think there’s enough dribble too much in this in in his game to uh for that to happen it’s always fun funny seeing you like this bet BR it sucks bro like it sucks and and it it sucks the most because it’s like I’m getting it from both teams yeah I mean but they’re both owned by the same man Emperor Palpatine himself bro it’s justy the the fact that like you rise bro that’s the worst part of it it’s like when you look at when you look at the white socks it’s just so many similarities just an unwillingness to try and to try and build a team like a modern NBA team the white socks have an unwillingness to build their team like a modern baseball team our highest paid player there’s players signing for $700 million in that league in baseball in Major League Baseball our highest paid player of all time is Andrew Ben and tendy yeah it’s just like uh $79 million it’s just like with the Bears too like at least the Bears are seem to be on the right path but like uh Mont sweat has the highest annual salary of any Chicago Bear ever because they we just have cheap franchises bro like no but I I think here’s here’s my difference with the Bears and the Bulls right like to me the Bears are doing things like they’re they got their footing back right realistically speaking this is Georgia’s second regime yeah yeah and and the Bears are on the right path the bear the Bulls don’t have a path yet we’re not even on the path we’re lost in the woods in the woods listen this is locked on if we were on bull Central I’d say it a lot differently so I mean listen I don’t even know if we’re in the woods dog we’re in the desert right now in the middle of the desert and we keep seeing Oasis and just going oh God is that Eddie Curry I got to get over there oh no it’s terrible oh God it was sad it was sad that duck MC having to root for Eddie Curry is literally one of the pits of Hell wor we got a root for Patrick Williams that’s a you thing that’s a you thing whatever I don’t know man uh shout out to the Celtics winning the 18th championship and uh shout out to uh Jaylen Brown you got like four months to win four more so you can stop lying to Taylor Rooks anyway let’s get out of here bro follow us on everything at lock on bulls you can follow me on everything at path the designer and uh you figure it out you guys can follow me at CEO Hayes man thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Locked on bulls we are free and available on every podcasting app and platform of your choice as well as YouTube uh yeah we up out of here forat the designer that’s been locked on bulls y’all peace peace you should have took a PTO day he [Music]

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12 Comments

  1. This is the most money back we could get for any player right now. Such a big deal and now we know the bulls are relying on a group that has had little success over the last 2 years. AC is doing 3 things at once and for some reason bulls management thinks this year will be different by the other players on the floor contributing more on the defensive side of the court. To many dalen terry, Coby, vuch, demar blown assignments. I have optimism but I didn't know how much I'd be disappointed to hear news like this. I love ac but it looks like he is wasting good years with the bulls and it does hurt to believe this. #whatnow

  2. BRUH, thank you for coming around, Pat. I mean better late than never but it actually made a ton of sense by year 2 of "Wait for Lonzo" that it wasn't just AKME being stupid. We have had years of misery before AKME and the one common thread is ownership. We only just got a development team and it probably took a bunch of finagling to make it happen. Ownership has an anchor around this team's ankle. The 2020-2021 revival was a bad move simply because we had a glimpse. And the Zach Lavine "Not enough" trade veto told us what we needed to know. Shame is folks like me are BULLS fans, I am not an NBA fan. If Bulls ain't playing, I don't watch, so ownership is fcking with us.

  3. But the Warriors didn't have a top-10 pick, especially not this draft. Besides, Warriors traded their 2024 1st round pick, which is now owned by Portland. 😂

  4. They’re gonna keep the same team an try to find some semi star player and bet on Lonzo coming back to his old self🙄

  5. I said it at CBC I'll say it here but more briefly, and hopefully succinctly. I have NO problem with not trading AC for a pick in this draft. But going forward? Every move this team makes better be for our future. Up to and including trading AC. As time goes on? Others might have to go, too. Zach needs to go, 'Zo needs to get gone, DeMar needs to go for what he is rumored to want. Drum is most likely gone. AC? You think he wants to spend his final prime years in Chicago grinding it out for a poop organization? This will be FOUR years already! Free Agency begins today. We run THIS team back? I'll lose my chit…and my mind. We keeping AC? Great! I love AC. NOW MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!

  6. Pat is right. I feel everything he said. Look at Boston Celtics they going to spend over 800 million dollars for 2 players , and 800 million for 2 players is crazy money, but I'll would've spent the same amount of money probably more for Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown right now they are in their prime and can win multiple Championships together Jerry would've split Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown up lol 2 years ago 😂😂😂😂. The problem always starts from the top now. Is it all on ownership? Of course, not, but damn this was my worst fear, and if we try to stay so-called competitive. AKME, I apologize cause Damn 😔 I'm lost for words. Facts and Blessings C Red Nation🙏🏿💪🏿✊🏿💯.

  7. We can talk about it, We can complain about it (Bulls Fan) You never know what is going to happen, That's the problem!

  8. Pat is spitting fire tonight. This whole organization is full of toxic minions of Reinsdorf.

  9. Now I know why AK went on his competitive rant. It was secretly an AI practice moment… Dude was probably miserable that he couldn't get that pick.

  10. Celtics winning simultaneously pissed off knick cavs lakers an cHeat fans. I love it. Not trading caruso for limping into the play in is right on brand…

  11. I'm so excited!!! Can't wait for another trash season🤦‍♂️our ownership and front office are bums and dont forget our bum coach either! Salute haize great video🤝💯🍻

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