Rough Start To Vegas Summer League For the Kings – July 15: The Insiders + D-Lo & KC
you can do it hey we are [Music] live good morning chatty house morning everybody Ramsey gets the belt on a Monday congratulations to Ramsay kicking off the week with the belt Wheezy in here Warren in here Michigan in here Zabo in here where’s Katrina there’s Spencer I saw Katrina earlier where was she there she is Ryan was what’s good dog yeah Reed Shepard looks nice man yeah more of a playmaker than I thought what’s going on budy we have a fun announcement at the top of the show what’s up Johnny something to mention to Damian a premium account is on x is required in order to stream on the platform you can oh yeah I don’t know if they figured that one out yeah all good sweet thanks stepen I literally the day these Tower hats came out I was doing a show at a different station what’s up Miss Mac um what’s up Russ dog up Katrina Su Johnny um the day these came out I was doing a Morning Show at a different station and like did I say different station like um now I was doing the the show over there and I literally I left early to make sure I was at the team store when it opened so I could go get one I was the only person there your commitment to hat purchasing is is unparalleled yeah yeah what’s going on if I see something my hat I want I’m I’m gonna I’m gonna go get it all right R do I’m feeling much better oh Manny you stop it what’s up David I apologize today if my feed is off I’m on location scouting that Bruno kaboko guy at the airport the seven-footer at the at the Carl Jr hi Spencer what up Spencer uh yeah no this this is what Ham’s house looks like this is what it looks like in his backyard it’s not what it looks like hey we sure as heck are Warren that’s right Warren you tell them hell yeah I need my join us tweet oh we’re starting late now wow there’s still like 20 seconds left in this break and it’s 10:20 1030 now I’m not comfortable with this starting at like 10:01 wow they’re slowly stealing our minutes now wow all right here we go yeah it sure as heck is happy Monday everybody we are worldwide today baby I’m Kyle Madson I’m hanging out in the studios in uh here in beautiful for Roseville it’s actually going to be a nice normal summer day today I know it’s still supposed to be in the mid 90s but that’s more that’s much more tolerable than a 108 it’s cooling down at night it was nice and cool when I got here this morning uh it was just fantastic the weather probably a little bit different where James is James uh live on location in Cabo doing some deep International scouting down there James what’s up man well there is this kid at the Carl Jr in the airport in Cabo that is legit 610 yeah legit 610 you sent me a photo and I was I was certain it was maybe a weird angle or he was on a like step stool or something nope just my man has to like he has to get a deep knee Bend to get down to the register like even if even if he was like on a box or something I don’t know if they’re elevated the ladies next to him literally don’t come up to his like elbow like he’s a tremendously huge human being so yes I am in C again uh I am here celebrating my 25th wedding anniversary which is later this week that’s AIG and I wasn’t supposed to be here all week but it just kind of worked out that way where I got extended and uh now I’m here I’m here and Kyle is there yeah man um so we’ll do uh we’ll have some fun uh with uh with you down in uh in Cabo I might need a Cabo report every day just about what’s going on what the vibe is I know you got some breakfast this morning morning uh and I can’t wait to hear about it uh but we’ll have uh we’ll have that we’ve got a t ton of King summer league action to get into Mon McNair uh spoke today well I guess probably not today but uh spoke today and we’ll talk about some of that and some of the Fallout of uh of what he had to say and of course Team USA is playing against Australia right now as well have some Team USA takeaways as well as we enter the MLB allstar break which is that period of the calendar that every Sports Talk r radio host dreads every every Sports Talk radio host who’s worth their salt does what James is doing right now and they leave for this week they get out they Circle the All-Star break and they go hey there’s nothing going on it’s a little bit different this year because because of the Olympics and the the tuneup games for for Team USA Basketball men’s basketball we have some some summer league action like I said but uh not a ton going on in the sports world but we do have a m very minor announcement um regarding regarding myself um if you’re not doing anything Friday night uh would love to see you out at uh at Suter health park for the rivercats game because not only will your boy be an attendance hanging out and uh eating some good food drinking some good beer and having a great time at a rivercats game uh I will also be throwing out the first pitch which is a lifelong dream of mine and I’m not even kidding ever first time I went to a baseball game I don’t know I was nine years old 10 years old however old I was it was like I want to do that that guy doing the the first pitch or that lady doing the first pitch whoever it was I want to do that and now I get a chance to on Friday and it will either be James a high point of my life where um the baseball Acumen that I acquired over over six seven years of playing year round in tournaments and high school and all that uh is still there or I’ve lost it entirely and I make a fool of myself in uh in front of everybody at stter health park so uh come find out and uh be out there on the 19th when uh when ESPN 1320 and myself will be out there hanging out at stter health park can’t wait are you gonna are you gonna lob it in there are you gonna like give him the give him the cheese like what what’s your plan here I want to know because because I hope that I get this opportunity as well there’s a possibility that I too will get to do this and uh and again I I would love to do this uh we’ll see if my arm falls off it when I go to throw with the shoulder impingment but uh but like you got to hurl it right yeah so this is this is where so I T so I have a buddy who works for the San Francisco Giants okay and I told him that this is going on and I said how do I handle this do I go full-blown like step up on the like look back at second check first and he’s like no you don’t want to take it too serious because you’re not the main character nobody’s there to see you oh all right fair enough that no no no and he’s right he’s right he’s right maybe people will pull up hopefully some people pull up just to just to see me do that but um it’s not the point of the game right so I think there’s a happy medium because I’m not I don’t want to lob it I don’t want to throw an eus pitch right yeah but I’m also not going to throw it as hard as I can a because that will hurt my body and I don’t want that b the harder I throw it the more likely I am to either spike it or send it into the left-handed batters box or something bad throw it over everything like hit the bull you know uh so I think I’m just gonna like a nice easy toss I’m not not going to go full-blown like you know slurve yeah no no no movement no two seam no curveball nothing weird if I was if this was closer to me having played baseball like competitively I I might be more apt to try and do something funny like that or something weird like that but my main priority is throwing it over the plate I know it’s funnier when it’s bad yeah but there’s too much pride on the line for me to to not want to throw a strike you’re at least gonna like bring your your glove right yeah yeah I think I I think so uh I’m hoping to get to talk to somebody beforehand yeah uh maybe do a little bit of scouting on what other people do in these situations my my instinct says bring glove though I think that I think that’s right especially if I get a chance to to throw a little bit beforehand to warm up some um I I’ll need that so yeah we’ll uh we’ll see before I went to the A’s game on July 4th uh I got to throw the ball around with with a couple of buddies uh Wade and Nate and uh salute to them for indulging me wanting to throw a baseball uh but it went it went well it went better than I was expecting so I’m uh my confidence is high go going into Friday but but we’ll see once I’m out there and I’m actually like on the field how how I feel about it I feel like you’re gonna do the uh the open jersey look like that is dude you know me so well that is a thousand per my plan the open jersey look is what Kyle’s going with yeah yeah yeah I’ll just go t-shirt under you know little rivercat Jersey I’ll have a I’ll probably buy a new hat to be honest I’m wearing a rivercats hat today one of finest caps in all the Major League Baseball it is the towerbridge baseball logo one of the very best and I’ve seen a lot of minor league baseball hats this one just goes so hard uh so I may wear this one but they have the 916 one that I that I think is great they have the Old School rivercat logo the RC logo they have the Paw logo there there’s a there kind of good hats there in the in the team store that I’m that I’m planning on snagging um but yeah open jersey look is going to be the vibe and I don’t know if I’ll have the option on this again I I haven’t gotten a ton of detail on the actual pitch itself but I don’t know if I’ll be able to throw from the mound or if I’ll have to go from in front of the mound if I’m in front of the mound bet the house I’m throwing a strike okay if I can’t if I can’t go on the mound if I have a choice I’ll go Mound but if I don’t have a choice they’re like yeah stand in front of the mount I’m throwing a strike that’s easy work that’s easy for me okay but throwing off a mound is different like that’s a different even if even if you’re just doing a small step like because where you really get going downhill right is when pitcher separate their hands and they and they extend their leg like they want to they want to get that width right where they’re really getting downhill to to get that momentum going towards the plate I’m not GNA be doing all that it’s going to be a small step forward so there’ll be a small uh a small decline when I throw it and that’s where the danger comes in because that’s not something I can really replicate I don’t think there’s a field near me that has built-in Mounds that I’m able to go practice on and I’m gonna practice don’t get it twisted I will be practicing oh yeah yeah if I get an opportunity to do this I’m like the boys one of them is going to be out in the front yard like out in the street like catching like nonstop like we’ll we’ll see we’ll see how many throws I got in my arm it’s pretty it’s pretty shot uh but you know I played I played baseball I played Little League I played 18 years of softball yeah yeah I can sling the ball a little bit we’ll see how it goes that’s been my biggest hangup with this is so I need to throw right but I’ve had elbow problems for forever like since I since I played and get really bad tightness on the inner part of my elbow like right right down in here right Tomy of surgery right yeah but it don’t have the tingling in the fingertips like I’ve I’ve checked all the symptoms and I don’t think it is uh but I get it when I golf when I bowl like it just this this part of my arm’s torched right so I’m I’m trying to find the happy medium of throwing before Friday but not throwing so much that on Friday my arm hurts and now I’m throw bad pitch because I tried so hard to not throw a b pitch so I’m in a tough spot dude I get this I’m I’m waffling on this all week I I didn’t expect us to burn the entire first segment on this but I’m all here for it yeah like yeah and no I I don’t think Kyle will wear a cell shirt I’m just gonna say I don’t think that will that will be I don’t think that’s that’s on brand for what we’re we’re trying to do here no it’s not but but when this first came up this was months back yeah when this first because at a radio station it works like any other job someone has an idea someone will say that idea whether it’s in a formal meeting or just kind of uh Charlie AR Bost is is awesome you can just walk up to him anytime be like hey idea and then he’ll come to you either later that day or the next day like yeah I followed up on that idea here’s where we’re at it’s awesome um but this came up like like a a while back and that was actually my first thought is I’ll go is I’ll go shirt over the cell shirt and then when I get out there I can take that shirt off and have the but that doesn’t doesn’t play that’s that’s a bad that’s a bad look for your boy so initially I thought you and I were going to go to the game together and sit there and eat and drink and I I don’t know maybe that’s what we will do like if I get an opportunity to do this I don’t know we’ll see yeah if you get to I’m pulling up if you’re doing this too at some point I’m pulling up I know you can’t come to mine and that’s fine I’m not going to begrudge you one bit I if I was in your shoes I would do the exact same thing but uh if if you’re doing this too at some point I will uh I will absolutely be there and hopefully Hopey everybody in the chat house will be there as well hopefully you listening will be there Friday at the rivercats game I will be throwing out the first pitch so make sure to get there early so you can see me either um show off my useless baseball throwing skills or uh make a total fool of myself uh either way it’ll be a it’ll be a rocking good time and then I’m just going to be there hanging out uh I’m not uh I’m there for the experience so I’ll be popping around hanging out so if if you pull up make sure to let me know so we can uh grab a beer grab a hot dog grab some nachos whatever it is and we’ll uh we’ll have a great time out at the out of the rivercats game and we’re going to have a good time on the show today we’ve got King summer league action we got man McNair talking about that this might just be what the Kings roster is and is that enough plus DraftKings dropped some win totals for this season we’ll talk MLB All-Star break Team USA facing Australia right now we’ll have takeaways from that plenty to get into on a Monday he’s James ham live from Cabo I’m Kyle Madson we are sponsored by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader clear Johnny G your conspiracy theory is incorrect uh this is not Kenny’s time share we have friends who have time shares so we were supposed to come down we have friends who have access to a house in Cabo we’re supposed to come down on Wednesday but if anyone flies to Cabo um you have to know that they you you only get direct flights on the weekends so Saturday and Sunday are direct and it’s only like three hours to get down here but if you go on the weekdays you like have to go through Phoenix and then here it takes like eight hours to get here so our friends who have time shares were able to add a couple of days to our trip on the front end so we could bump our flights back and basically uh make it a week instead so it’s an anniversary trip and I did not expect to go Cabo twice in one store that was not ever in any of James’s plans I usually hide from the Sun smart yeah I wish I could get a better view of what’s happening outside I don’t think oh oh a little better like a pool at a resort there’s a pool and the ocean right there behind those palm trees and stuff hell yeah and now room service is calling oh my God Del know we’re trying to do a goddamn radio show minute 15 oh I should probably not be yeah Spain was awesome yesterday man they were really really good yeah it felt like they should have probably had three or four goals there I did not get sick from Mexico that should be noted Matthew I lost my voice I I don’t know where I got it but I had the strip so I know that’s gross but I got the strip I’ve been on penicillin for the last five days uh Matthew I’m a right-hander yeah me too my my oldest is Lefty get him in somebody’s Bullpen neither my boys enjoyed playing baseball here we go now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 James ham over there Kyle Madson here Jiffy Lube omnipresent they sponsor the program shout out to Jiffy Lop they’re going to help me get my Honda Civic to 300,000 miles maybe or Bust or bust which you know dbd um enough about me throwing a first pitch at a rivercats game which is happening Friday get your tickets uh now so you can uh you can come watch um King summer league opened on Friday and it didn’t go great Sacramento lost 10383 to the Grizzlies they what did they finish with 31 turnovers 31 uh they were they were looking at the record and like oh I don’t think that they’re going to get to the record I don’t think they’re going to get to the record and then boom boom boom boom three turnovers and run the final like 90 seconds oh that’s tough um and I think there’s nothing I don’t look here’s here’s where it’s if I don’t want to diminish what Las Vegas summer league is but the Kings having 31 turnovers in a in a summer league game doesn’t doesn’t move me that much um what does move me from that game although it’s a hilarious number like just objectively 31 turnovers is so many but there were two things two two things I took away from that game that that I that I think matter for for the kings in the in the regular season and maybe Beyond but Colby Jones through the California classic did not look great and then in his Vegas summer league debut he scores two points he grabs two rebounds and he goes 0 for four from the floor and 0 for three from Beyond The Arc and I again I’m not punting on Colby Jones but the longer this goes on where he’s not asserting himself in these like low-level exhibition games the the the worry increases every single time yeah I I would totally agree with you um this is a moment where a player doesn’t have to be just insanely good but if you’re a second-year player at Summer League or if you’re a fourth year player like uh like Mason Jones or if you’re like even uh going into your third whether it was with the the NBA team or not like Keon Ellis you need to show out right and that that could mean 12 points a game it could mean more 14 points a game but you have to show like the versatility and who you are as a player and if you can’t do that on this scale against guys who again this is not even g-league competition it’s not like the G league is a much higher level of competition than this this is uh the summer league has a bunch of players who will never even sniff the G league and so for me it’s always U like you don’t want to like Panic about a player especially after one uh one Las Vegas Summer League game but if you look at the California classic and sort of Colby Jones like performance there his inability to stand out at all really does make you worry about his ability to compete for minutes at an NBA level which the Kings might need and people need to realize he’s not on a two-way contract like Colby Jones is on his standard NBA contract he got a four-year deal uh the first two years are guaranteed I believe and what we’re seeing here at this point is it’s at least a little bit alarming and you would just want to you’re hoping that people behind the scenes are are giving giving him a push and saying all right man like this is the time and I’d also point out like I I think one of the the flaw to summer league is when you go into whether it’s Vegas or you go into uh the California classic and you don’t have a true point guard that really does set everybody else up for failure and so like the Jordan Fords of the world or um you know David Stockton used to be one of these guys like if you can bring in a solid veteran g-league point guard to run the show your team is just way better and and I don’t you know it’s it’s that calming influ inuences that ability to just kind of uh you know direct traffic and everything else uh I think with San Antonio always don’t they bring booer with them um and that’s something that the Kings don’t have in the summer league they’re trying to you know push guys into places where they’re not comfortable and that’s okay um you do want to see Keon Ellis handle the ball more you want to see Mason Jones and you want to see Colby Jones handle the ball more but at the end of the day in order to maximize a roster you really do need that guy who can sort of calm things down and and avoid 31 turnovers in a game yeah yeah uh that’s where I was hoping that we would see Colby Jones and we’ll talk about Keon Ellis in a second but that’s where like you said this is not even g-league level competition and yes Kobe Jones is not a true point guard so expecting him to just go out there and turn into Prime Chris Paul because he’s more talented than the players around him uh isn’t isn’t realistic but at the same time it’s just how passive he’s been and how timid he’s been that’s that’s the concerning part to me and I know that that’s not quantifiable and it’s just Vibes based and maybe he’s working on something with his game that he’s just not totally comfortable with or whatever and he gets to the preseason and he’s fine but right now it’s it was in the Cal classic and now it’s been it’s been here in the summer league that and just one game maybe goes out and dominates the next one and we feel better about it but to this point it’s just like we talked about with Tyrese halberton in the playoffs right where in those in those games in crunch time against the Knicks it was like he was passing the ball and then running away from from the action it was like my job is to distribute it to this guy and then I’m G to go over here and not be involved and that’s just kind of How It’s looked with Colby Jones and I’m I’m I’m hoping that like you said the coaching staff gets in his ear and is like dude you’re an NBA player go go be an NBA player and we see a more more assertive version of him but but right now he was a player that that I think I said last year like man I think he’s going to be in the rotation in 2024 and right now there’s just no realistic way that that’s that that’s gonna happen if he doesn’t start playing a lot better yeah he has time he has time and the other thing I would point out is that part of the problem is that again it Colby Jones could use somebody to set him up as well and so I think there there could come a point where um where Keon Ellis doesn’t play so especially with the Kings losing their first game it means you’re kind out for the championship um so that means that that at a certain point you should probably pull Keon from this as well like maybe give him one more game and then say okay like we’re gonna let Colby take over as like the main scoring Cog or or the main offensive initiator and and maybe that will help so it’s always possible that they just have like between Mason and Keon and and uh Colby they just have three guys that are too similar in what they’re trying to do and no one that can really establish himself as like the guy and and if any of them are the guy it’s Keon um just because he is like in the rotation whether he’s starting or he’s coming off the bench yeah um Keon seven points for boards six assists he went three of 10 from the field one of five from three that I’m less concerned about because if he goes if he goes two of five from three and he has 10 four and six on four of 10 that’s not that’s not we’re not even talking about it yeah so I’m not I’m not super concerned about about Keon just yet particularly because of how good he was at the end of the Cal classic yeah I think he gets one more game though I think he give him one more game of hey go be the dude go get go get some work as a as a ball handler as a playmaker and then get back in the gym and and focus on his what his role is going to be with the Kings this year which is not going to be that primary ball handler and uh and playmaker and it’s going to be more you know three and D type of win yeah yeah definitely um I I also like the 31 turnovers um I look seven guys had three or more turnovers and like look that turnovers can be like you can catch a case of the turnovers and you know I think that that’s something that we saw that that this group like sort of became contagious yeah um I wouldn’t worry about that either I mean Keon Ellis uh and Mason Jones each had five turnovers there wasn’t one guy with like nine turnovers um you know so it was pretty well distributed throughout the entire team where they just dropped a lot of balls like they they just looked like they weren’t ready uh for whatever reason to to you know like be engaged and and hold on to the ball and and play good basketball yeah and that’s what I’m that’s what I’m kind of watching tonight the Kings play the jazz tonight and that’s what I’m just are the guys that they’re expecting to potentially play in the NBA this year do they just look more ready to play and more ready to kind of take over over a game whether it’s kby Jones or Mason Jones or or Keon Ellis um do they just do they look more dialed in now that they’ve been in Las Vegas they’ve probably gotten some additional work in um that that’s kind of what I’m watching for tonight more than any individual performance yeah and then I think the problem you’re gonna have is if you’ve seen this Utah Jazz team they are so long and athletic I mean like talk about crazy they’ve got a 7 foot5 kid that I don’t think anyone’s ever heard of that played um at like a smaller college that uh that just is blocking shots left and right like super long athletic I think he’s he’s 75 220 so if that tells you that’s outrageous dude yeah but he’s not the only one they have you know they have a lot of their young upand cominging stars on that team and you’ll look around and you’ll watch like a shooting guard go in who’s 65 with a you know 611 wingspan going like like what in the world they have all the long athletic guys almost like uh what we’ve seen from the Pelicans the last couple of years and that’s going to be a problem for the Kings the Kings don’t have those young players hiding on the bench that have that lengthen athleticism that that they kind of need yeah Kyle filipowski uh Darius basley who’s been in the league for five years um athletic Kenny Loft and Jr not long athletic 66 275 though he is a he is a h yeah Bryce senah who who played real minutes for the Jazz last year and good player I like yeah me too it’s not gonna be a uh have you found the seven foot five guy yet where’s his no’s not he’s not on this version of the roster that I that I saw but this is from a few days ago so it could be uh it could just be outdated yeah I watched their last game and I thought like what are they just like finding new ways to find like Walker kler like they just keep finding new ones like what in the world they’re trying to trade Walker Kessler so maybe they’re trying one uh all right mon McNair spoke today uh saw some of the quotes from that we will discuss what that means is the King’s roster just done like is this it and if this is the roster they’re going into camp with what does that mean for Sacramento’s prospects this season we’ll talk about it next he’s James I’m Kyle they’re Jiffy Loop they sponsor the show this is ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader clear yeah I’m trying to find this dude he played really well in their last game hello everybody okay so my Internet isn’t great here let’s see Del got frozen ham oh no he’s back I’m back how long does ham have to be frozen to be considered frozen ham it’s got to be like 7 Seconds okay that didn’t count then yeah I’m trying to you T you as summer league roster nine hours ago um I could have sworn he’s on that team what okay my internet’s too slow somebody checked box score from the last game and see if you can find who I’m talking about Johnny G I’m not in Vegas at Summer League Matthew brookens I am in CBO again jazz beat the Mavericks 90 to 89 oh it’s not the Mavericks is it that has the six 7 fo5 guy it might be the M this is annoying because I can’t he blocked a ton of shots go to be him Jamarion sharp yes sharp 75 235 according to his Wiki okay uh let’s see in college two years at John A Logan not to be confused with James Logan uh and two years at Western Kentucky uh he shot 72.6% from the field in 2122 he averaged 4 and a half blocks per game in his career including 5.8 in the 2020 2020 one season good God yeah and he’s on Dallas right yes okay my bad everybody he’s on Dallas well I’ll have to correct that on the air that’s fine four points four blocks six boards an assist two for three from the field he’s super athletic and super fun kings are out of two two ways at this point but that doesn’t mean they won’t make roster adjustments I don’t know 40 seconds [Music] yeah precious would be an interesting addition to the Kings I don’t know be so in on that I’m out of water oh just brutal and we’re back in 10 seconds all right at the next break I’m going to get water here we go now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 James is over there and by over there I mean down in Cabo working from Cabo this is commitment dude life could be worse Kyle yeah yeah you know I I mean I I went I went to Key West in October and I was like oh I got to work the whole time cuz I had to record a couple of podcasts I had to do some writing but you’re jumping on you’re like live show I didn’t do live shows from from Key West this is this is a different level of commitment that I that I admire and respect I appreciate that Kyle I appreciate that you know I I love doing our show so that’s why I mean more than anything else it’s not that um you know that I I want to like be a hero here and step in from Cabo and and stay on the job no I love doing our show so same but also if I go to Cabo do not expect me no that’s fine I’ve raised the bar for expectations for where we’re going yeah no this is uh this is a this is a one-off for me no uh let’s get into what Monty McNair had to say about the Kings because I think it’s I think it’s interesting and I think it spins forward kind of the next the next step in this conversation because it feels like the the excitement about demard Rosen is is going to linger but the initial pop of like holy crap the king’s got dear Rosen is now is now gone MH and you had reported and there was there was uh rumors at the king’s like oh hey they’re still in on Lorie marinin hey they’re still in on Kyle kosma there’s all this and hey there might be another move coming well it’s now July 15th we’re into summer league and it feels like now hey maybe that additional move is not coming and then I saw that uh that Monty McNair said that this is probably the group that they’re going to go into camp with this is the main core of players are going to go into camp with which means maybe there’s some some moves on the margins but for the most part this is the roster the kings are looking at and I got to tell you man when I when I hear that it’s I don’t want to say it bums me out but it feels like I was I was so certain there was something else coming after the DeMar rosen trade and that was a great addition and I think it it makes the king a play playoff team yeah I I think it’s it’s a great addition and I and I agree with you it makes him a playoff team and when you compound that with some of the other moves that you know the smaller moves that they’ve made whether it’s Jayla McDaniels or it’s drafting Devin Carter um like all of these things you kind of sit there and go okay you know we can look at last season and say they barely missed the playoffs that that they had injuries late in the season and that that played a role in them missing the Playoffs you filled some of that uh issue but that doesn’t change the fact that number one you got smaller at the small forward position yeah um and I don’t know maybe deardo Rosen doesn’t start at the at the the three maybe he starts at the two and you just have like a really compacted backourt um but I’d also like there’s just you’re still missing the the same ingredient that you were like jayen McDaniels is long and athletic but and he was perfectly fine a couple of years ago for Charlotte when he’s on a bad team and had to take on a bigger scoring role and everything else and at that point I would have loved for the Kings to go out and trade for him then and he’s still only 26 years old but we’re we’re realistically talking about a guy who is an upgrade from Kesler Edwards but not a tremendous upgrade from Kesler Edwards and you know same style of player um but same style of players like Glenn Robinson II and so you’re hoping that uh that he can fill in like a back of the rotation guy like a 9 10 guy but I I wouldn’t put him in the top of my rotation um if I were a team that had like highend playoff aspirations he’s a guy that can play and he’s an upgrade over what you had last year but he’s not someone to put you over the top and I’m looking at this roster and you know Alex Lynn has to play It’s not that Alex Lynn can play it’s that at this point Alex Lynn has to play and he’s got to play a lot of games like he can’t he can’t get hurt and and play 47 games or something like he’s going to need to be a player because you don’t have another big man um you hope that Trey LS can play some five but we’ve also heard that Trey LS may end up playing the four and the five maybe even starting at the four like there’s a lot of question marks here about how you’re you’re roster constructing when it comes to that still the same issue the lengthen athleticism that you still don’t have and so I’m intrigued because if this is it like it’s got to work really well like like somehow you like Mike Brown has got to do a really really good job of like blending this thing together very quickly and that’s and that’s where my my hang-up is because the roster feels incomplete and every roster I think if if we went through the NBA and and we could even talk to experts and beat Riders and radio guys and TV guys and other markets and and we can talk to those media members and and I’m sure they’ll tell you yeah the roster lacking in in a b and c way and we’re going to do the same thing but with with Sacramento it it like I’m they they got better and I’ve said that a bajillion times over the last week they got better but then as we look and and I and I see that Monty McNair is saying yeah this is this is kind of the group and you know we’re going to be patient we’re looking at at wings and some and some forwards and some bigs but but this is largely the core that we’re going to go into with and oh Jaylen McDaniels can be impactful on both ends of the floor it’s like man the most the an optimistic view of the Kings sure you can talk yourself into this is a top three four team in the west like yes if every if everything goes right like you said hey Alex Len plays a bunch and is and is really impactful and Trey Lyles finds a role as a as a small ball five and a back of four and just just really turns it on and his lights out from three and is is pulling down rebounds and doing a great job wow what a player and Kevin herder finds a role there’s there’s all these things that you can talk yourself into but all I keep coming back to and all that is valid all that’s on the table maybe everything goes right and they have this magical season they win 55 games but everything I come back to is what we talked about all of last season we we we did multiple shows around the idea that every problem the Kings have comes back to their lack of size and their lack of athleticism on the wings and I and I and I know they solved some of those problems with demaro Rosen particularly the the scoring and the shot creation like they there not a lot of players that they could have added that would have helped more than demard de Rosen is going to in those two departments that is without a doubt but I can’t help but sit here and think man they are really really thin in the front court and on the wings again and if we’re going to be the mo if we’re going to if we’re going to lay out that optimistic case which I’m which I’m fine with if you want to lay out the optimistic case where this is a 55 win team and they’re really going to take off this year I think at the same time you have to lay out the other case where hey this team is is better but they’re going to run into a lot of the same problems against a lot of the same teams because their roster is thin and a lot of the same areas oh yeah yeah I mean I totally agree and you know I I think look people because of what happened last season and because of what happened in the Three-Point Shootout the year before I think people lost sight a little bit about the impact that Kevin herder had on this roster and when I had conversations with people within the walls of the team uh after the season they were more of the like like look Kevin herter had a bad season but we don’t think Kevin hder is a bad player and we think that like we we know who he was the year before and there’s a there’s potential for him to get back to that player right and so you know maybe he’s not the 15 Point per game guy but he’s not the 10 point Point per game guy maybe he’s in the middle there like a 12 13 Point per game guy but still an elite uh like gravitational pole shooter right and so there’s a a possibility that Kevin herder like gets going and and finds a way to get like right into that uh that type of player and and I would point out too that Kevin herder at 67 like he can play the two and the three and at this point like could you see a a weird lineup where it’s dearen Fox demard Rosen at the two Kevin herder at the three Keegan Murray at the four and KY and damont sabon set to five to start the season like yeah I could see that like like this that’s the starting lineup well yeah but like if if you know you have deard Rosen who’s not a great three-point shooter and you know that you have that dearn fox who improved and became a much better three-point shooter last season you need as many shooters on the court as possible so especially with sabonis I could see them looking at at Kevin herder and saying okay why not start him at the three Why not start him alongside kegam Murray now defensively sure you might have some problems but I’d make the case it uh in the same way that I used to with Buddy heeld like I think buddy heeld just because he’s six foot4 was like defensively miscast as a shooting guard defensively like his awareness and everything else out in space at in at the top of the key where he can be like manipulated by either a big man coming up and setting screens or just a a better athlete running at him like wasn’t a wasn’t an ideal situation but buddy was big enough and strong enough that if you put him on small forwards he was actually pretty solid as a Defender and you’re also taking away a lot of the Court when you put them on guys who are on the wing versus guys that are at the top of the key I think that could be this similar case for Kevin herder where if you put Kevin herter like maybe not on the the super long super crazy athletic uh you know not the the Brandon ingrams of the world um but a lot of other players I think that Kevin herder might be able to hold his own as more of a three on the defensive end than you know so I don’t know what they’re thinking but at this point like Kevin herder isn’t a bad player and I think that if you can kind of uh like forget about last season and and let him establish who he is this year it’s possible that he could be a better player than what you could have got for him um and the other problem that you have if you’re Monty McNair is I I know I see people bringing up like beef stew and stuff like uh Isaiah Stewart from uh the the Pistons right but here’s the problem that if you take Kevin herder and you trade him for him right now then what happens if Kyle kosma does come up for grabs what happens if you can put a package for for Brandon Ingram midseason if if the pelican aren’t doing well and they’re like man we got to get off this now we got to bail um then you don’t really have that trade chip that you do as of right now and so you have to be cautious as well with how you’re sort of looking at your your trade packages because like again yeah you traded Sasha fenov you traded Davon Mitchell to Toronto in a in a salary dump and the salary dump look great but how do you use that salary and so far they haven’t so let me let me I I you said a lot of stuff I want to touch on there yeah yeah Kevin herder on the roster for sure as well if if Monty saying they’re done that this is who he thinks they’re going into camp with then maybe but then again this could just be you know putting something out there in the media to to make sure people know yeah we’re totally comfortable with this as a Ruster now here’s okay so let let’s roll with that Kevin herder on the roster because I’ve been operating that he was gonna get traded he hasn’t yet it doesn’t sound like he’s going to it again Never Say Never it’s on the table but let’s let’s assume he’s he’s going in the biggest question I have with Kevin herder is not even defensively because I think defensively the Kings have the horses to uh take some of the the defensive burden off of him in a way they they couldn’t before Keon Ellis kind of burst on the scene right the question I have now though is is you laid out that lineup where Kevin herder is started in that fox herder uh D rozan Keegan sabonis lineup MH if that’s not the lineup if it is hey they they came to an agreement with Malik Monk and they decided that they have the pie is now to allow Malik monk to start or if they say no D rozan has to be at the two um and and um uh I’m sorry Keon has to be at the two D rozan has to be at the three and Keegan has to be at the four and Kevin herder’s coming off the bench is that a role that he’s going to accept because I think that was a big problem for him last year and I think that was that was the reason we saw him shoot a career low percentage was because his his role was threatened at the beginning of the year and then he he struggled coming out of the gate and so there was all this questioning about is he going to get traded what’s wrong with him and and I just don’t think it was like a a a smooth season particularly coming off a rough playoff series in to end the year prior so he was in this this situation last year where he never really got stable never really got his got forgive the the phrase here but got his feet set and now if he’s in a spot where the kings are going yeah hey um you’re going to be coming off the bench and also you’re going to be in every trade rumor for the entire year like I don’t think that’s setting him up for Success no I I’m with you and I I fully understand that um I would would say this though uh Kevin herder was coming off a career year um last summer like people forget he was the king’s third leading scorer the year that they had the highest offensive rating in the history of the game like he he literally was their third scorer and so incredibly consistent he had one Lull in the middle of the Season where he was bad shooting wise and then he snapped out of it and kept going um but I think he went into last off season and he talked about this a little bit in his his postseason wrapup um he said look what I did is I worked on the offense that that we’re playing in I I worked on those uh you know like extending out off the high uh dribble handoff you know the dho like he’s like I worked on that a lot I worked on um how to play off a domos and all these things he’s like and then I got into the season and teams took that stuff away from us and I had spent the entire offseason kind of just working on the things that would have made me better in that system he’s like so this offseason I’m going to work on go back to the basics of what I typically do which is just try to work on my overall game and be a better basketball player and so that’s one thing but I also think that Kevin herder walked into last summer thinking okay like I didn’t have a good playoff series but hey neither did Harrison Barnes neither did name that King there were plenty of guys who didn’t have a good playoff series and he walked into the summer believing he was going to be the starting shooting guard come training camp and then in training camp they had brought in Chris dwarte and next thing you know it for some reason became a competition Chris Forte gets hurt then it’s not a competition but I I think the psyche like really threw Kevin herder so what I’m hoping is that Kevin herder number one has been working with somebody all summer long um on this type of situation like what we saw from Kevin herder a lot of his issues there was nothing physically wrong with Kevin herder until late in the season when he dislocated his shoulder outside of that like the mental aspect of the game got to Kevin herder and like I’m not speaking out of turn here there’s no question he got like he had a hitch and a shot and all kinds of weird mechanical issues that came up out of nowhere none of that was physical there was nothing wrong with him that would have caused that it was all mental and I’m hoping that he’s he’s worked on that you know it’s not just about jumping higher and shooting the ball better and and being in better physical shape to to run faster and run further sometimes it is about about understanding roles understanding your place in the league and your place in the the hierarchy of your team and and really taking a step back and I’m hoping that that’s what we’ve seen that that’s what we’ll see from Kevin so what I’m saying is that I think he’ll be better prepared physically we know he was like he was at Coachella with uh with um withot Bottle Rock my accuracy yeah no no no Bottle Rock my my bad uh Bottle Rock with with domas um we know he’s he’s been around his teammates here and there but at the same time you’re really really hoping that he’s coming in with the understanding of like anything can happen in the NBA just because you’re making 17 million bucks a year doesn’t mean you’re a starter anymore you know it could mean like they just brought back Malik Monk and paid him more money than you make to be the six-man most likely and so like realistically uh this was probably a wakeup call season for Kevin hder and whether it it positively or negatively impacts him going forward we’ll have to wait and see how it responds but I’m not like just ready to throw Kevin hter out and say hey look man you’re you’re not a good basketball player anymore you don’t need to be here um but he can be a means to an end right and by that I mean he can be the piece that’s moved in a trade the Kings probably had an option of who they wanted to trade whether it was Harrison Barnes or it was uh Kevin herder and it was probably the difference between going between two different teams when they’re completing the three- Team SWAP for uh yeah for um D rozan yeah so like there there’s a good possibility that this is the guy that they chose right and and that’s good like if this is a guy that they chose to be around and they think that his three-point shooting and like his again his ability to stretch the defense like makes sense for this team okay because it did two years ago it was phal to watch yeah so you know it’s tough man I think on this roster I’d rather have Harrison maybe I think in a vacuum I’d rather have herder but um I I do Wonder a if the Devin Carter injury changed the king’s thought process on herder at all because if you have a healthy Devin Carter which which the Kings won’t until January at the minimum you have at the two or players who can play the two Malik monk Devin Carter demard Rosen Keon Ellis I could just it it feels like Kevin herder’s spot is it the the three specifically and I don’t I’m I’m not totally sure where that uh yeah that’s gonna be right for him and if that’s the right fit well I definitely when you talk about the the Devin Carter injury I think it does change everything I mean whether he was going to play 20 4 minutes a game or he was going to average like 16 to 18 that’s still a big role that you just lost and you know again they went on that they got Jordan mcclin has sort of filled the backup three but I if you’re just looking right now at at realistically you can group players in different areas right but if you’re looking at your backcourt being dearen and Malik and Keon and Jordan and and maybe kby Jones well that’s not enough yeah right and because if I’m if I’m going to group those guys together and then I’m going to look at the small forward spot and say that’s kind of demard Rosen and Kevin herder and I’m gonna look at the power forward spot I’m gonna say that’s kind of Trey lyes and and Keegan Murray and then Jaylen McDaniels is gonna be your fifth your fifth forward there right that’s kind of your team if you throw in Devin Carter it does mix things up pretty uh substantially and it adds a ton of depth but this point like they they do need to use those last two or at least one of the last roster spots to try to add some other size at some position and so yeah it’s it’s kind of intriguing Kyle like the the roster build of this thinging it doesn’t feel done and so when you hear Monty McNair say something like that that this is a team that they’re going to take into Camp it does feel a little bit like okay this is what they’re going to take in Camp it are you hearing that out there Washington Wizards this is a team we’re taking into camp like are you hearing us because that’s what we’re going to do we’re not gonna give you two for that we’re taking into Camp yes maybe some smaller moves like a signing no trade yeah waston we’re not giving up two first round picks Washington but we’re ready to move forward yeah so that’s what always open yeah I I would just say like if you were to add one other piece it changes everything excuse me yeah it definitely does so yeah uh real quick on the Lori Market in front it sounds like that that that’s that’s a done thing for the Kings uh you mentioned earlier you know wanting to wanting to hang on to herder in in part because of how he might be able to potentially impact the the lineup but B for a potential mid seon trade oh Brandon Ingram it looks like he’s going to hang out in in New Orleans at least for the time being it doesn’t sound like the Jazz are are super interested in moving off Lori Markin and and maybe the Wizards who just signed yonis Valen chunis are still under this impression that the back end of the East is really weak and they’re going to be able to go make a a real push for the uh for the for a playin spot um but it sounds like the kings are off of marinin and there was some reporting in the athletic today from Shams Teran this I just thought was really funny on the markeet and stuff uh the Warriors have discussed a trade Proposal with the Jazz around Moses Moody multiple first round picks multiple pick swaps and multiple second round picks the Jazz countered with an offer of Lori marinin for Moses Moody Jonathan kaminga and Brandon psky along with picks which surprisingly has been a non-starter for Golden State so it it doesn’t shock me at all that that’s something that the Kings probably punted on because if that’s what the Jazz want from the Warriors I can’t fathom what they would have asked for from Sacramento yeah I mean I’ve I’ve heard that the Kings had a competitive offer on the table that did not include Keegan Murray right it’s a competitive offer competitive in what sense though competitive in the general trade market sense or competitive in the Danny an is an insane person sense yeah and that’s always going to be the problem and and the worst part is we’re talking about a guy who who’s not under contract moving forward so and who his people have been pretty pretty clear to uh to people that he would really really like to explore free agency this summer and to give himself like an opportunity to go he doesn’t feel like he he really had a good free agent experience the last time and that he was kind of left out of the cold and the free agent world and and had to sign with Cleveland on like a make good contract for a guy of his level of skill and then he made good and so like he wants to he wants to figure out free agency and play where he wants to play well that’s like a giant red flag why would you give up multiple first round picks and multiple piig swaps for a guy who won’t commit and if he’s not going to commit to you then like what are you doing so the deal is if they sign him on August 3rd right by August well is it August August 3D they have an exact the beginning of August yeah they well maybe it’s August 6 there’s one day that they have to sign him and they have to do a renegotiate and extend like what the king said with sabonis if he gets that contract on that specific date six months he he has to stay on the roster that equates to trade day yes the actual trade deadline day of the deadline and you can’t trade him until that day and you can’t trade him after that day so it’s like this really weird dynamic that’s in play um yeah that’s going to be fascinating especially since the Jazz may have some inkling from Lori Markin in that part of his free agency is going to be exploring staying with Utah and so if Utah is going to trade him they’re going to try and squeeze every every last drop they can out of that uh out of that deal all right we have to hit a break we got a second hour coming up I’m gonna try and make you some money coming up next because DraftKings dropped their 2024 2025 NBA season win totals we’ll tell you where the kings are at and I’m going to tell you which way to go on that next on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader look at Frank Frank Perez out there doing the people’s work look at him go good work Frank we believe you Frank are you reporting that I’m gonna tweet it right now according to Frank Perez from the chatty house on the ground live on the ground um I don’t know that that Dorian fny Smith is perfect for the Kings like he’s an upgrade over Jaylen McDaniels but he’s also like six foot six is he only 66 if that 65 66 I said it was a 67 68 lucke trickster um the Kings have sorry I can’t pull up stuff he listed at 67 oh okay which means probably 65 or 66 yeah uh the Kings have most of their mid-level exception they do also have their biannual exception but they’re hard capped at at the that was a that was a weird thing mon said I meant to ask you about it he said and I will go get the direct quote from him after this if you want um no I didn’t Johnny I didn’t tell him about jaier Javier’s done on this show oh no yeah um but uh what was I talking about help me out where was I at Monty McNair talking about oh yeah yeah yeah thanks thanks thanks he said that they got something with their midlevel and it sounded like he said they got D rozan with their midlevel which obviously not right so I don’t know what he was talking about oh because they can’t absorb 12 whatever of his 25 into the mid level right no yeah no you can’t combine right what went yeah and the players they sent out are exactly the but that doesn’t mean he might have been talking about someone else he might but I I I might have misheard it but yeah I just the way it sounded was like he said we went and got D rozen with our midlevel I was like huh right yeah I I I don’t I’d have to I’d have to check that there’s I mean the mid level is for 13 million bucks that’s all you can and the Kings didn’t have roster space to do and you can’t combine um you can’t combine exceptions like they had a trade exception or they should have a major trade exception I don’t know what happened with Javier oh uh he made some snide ass comment oh no no no no no no no no no no no he made some snide ass comment on DLo and casy while I was in oh it was just uh it was just I I found it to be disrespectful on the level of I don’t want to talk to that guy anymore so oh okay oh look he’s calling in right now here we go yep hour number two I’m Kyle he’s James ham rocking with you until noon then we’ll end it off to DLo and KC DLo back in the building today at least I think so he’s backday right I think so I think we’re back to normal I didn’t heard I didn’t heard otherwise so we should have DLo and KC coming up 91699 1320 91699 1320 if you want to call the show unless your name is Javier from Vacaville in which case I know you’re on the line right now and I know you can hear this hang up you’re wasting your time I’m dead serious I’m not joking there we go I I was not playing the other day on D and Casey anyways um Sacramento Kings DraftKings dropped their uh 2024 2025 NBA season win totals all right fine he won’t hang up I’ll hang up on him for him um the kings are sitting at 45 and a half wins that is the s highest total in the Western Conference that puts them right about where they were last year um I know it feels low but I think that’s the right number that feels like a good number to me oh it’s a draw you in number that’s for sure it’s but here’s here’s where this is where betting markets get weird because I look at that I would bet the over on this by the way if if gambling was legal in the state of California I would I would bet the over on 45 a half because even if the Kings win 46 again like I think their rosters better than last year I think they’re going to win more games than they did last year whether it’s 47 48 51 55 I don’t know that that depends on a lot of things but they should be at least as good as they were last season if not better that’s why I’d lean uh the over on 45 and a half wins but this is where the betting markets are weird because while I think Golden State and the Lakers or the Dallas Cowboys or whoever get inflated a little bit because people just there’s a lot of fans of those teams and people just bet the over and so it changes how the books have to have to make their totals I kind of wonder if the opposite happens for the Kings where there’s going to be people who don’t really follow the NBA super close and they’re just going to walk up to a book and go oh Sacramento 45 and a half oh under and that that’s part of I don’t know that might happen and that might be worth half a win or whatever I don’t I I I have no idea but like you said that feels like bait to me it’s it’s funny Kyle during the um the deardo Rosen press conference Monty McNair said something that stood out he said like it’s only Us in Denver who have won 46 games or more in the last two seasons and I was like oh that is that real it’s correct and it is correct and so like you’re you’re looking at that number of 45 and a half you’re like okay well then that seems easy but for my experience what typically happens is if a lot of people believe that to be the case they’re going to bet that heavily like right in the first couple of days they’re going to keep like that that number is going to get pushed up and then the betting odds are going to change and they’re going to keep pushing the Kings up higher until they get to like 48 and a half and then people are gonna bet the under and bring it back down and so that number is going to change ba based slightly off of the way that it’s bet and so so for me like 46 and a half 45 and a half it’s probably really fair like honestly I think everyone was so surprised last year when it was 44 45 and everyone was oh so disrespectful to the Kings and then sure enough there they are right there at that number and so yeah I’m in I’m intrigued to see what happens um with the actual number and where it’s at when we get to the start of the season because I think it’ll move a whole lot between now and then I think I think that 45 a half wins at draftking sports book I think that allows for the re I think that allows for a couple of things to go wrong where hey there might be an injury there might be uh maybe D Roan doesn’t integrate as as well as they want to early and they they they lose a bunch of games early while they’re figuring that out I think it it it accounts for that while also allowing for hey they’re going to be they’re gonna at least be good again and every year we see teams way over to the the year the year the Kings went to the playoffs a couple years ago would they surpass their over by like January oh yeah I mean they they hit the over by by like before the trade deadline it was crazy I think it was 32 and a half man and they and they won 48 yeah so that this this happens every year this is not Las Vegas predicting that the kings are only going to win 45 or 46 games this is just a general when you take everything into account like yeah it’s about it’s about in this Ballpark and being in that ballpark is good because if you’re four wins better than your projection here you’re at 50 so I don’t um I don’t have a huge problem with it I don’t see it as as disrespectful uh I would just lean toward the over though and maybe sharp money comes in and like you said maybe we see that climb up to 46 or 47 and a half by the time the season starts but if you start getting too high you’re going to get people just hammering the under and that’s not what that’s not what books want but I’m wiing over 45 and a half I just can’t the world where they’re worse than they were last year for for for me like a lot of things have to go really wrong yes and that’s that’s why that’s why I would I would lean toward the over this isn’t even a super optimistic like things could go wrong and they could still be at 46 you know to get to to 45 or below to be worse than they were last year that’s dearin taking a step back that’s domas taking a step back that’s demaro Rosen not working out that’s Malik monk not playing like he did LA last year the last two years really that’s Kevin herder struggling again if if he’s going to be around I it’s just it’s a it’s Keegan Murray not taking a leap it would it would be a disaster if they went backwards at this point well K I don’t see it man and to that point like I’m not sure what their games missed due to injury was last year um you know they had the the games early like the 13 games that Trey lyes missed in the beginning of the season a couple of games that um that yeah dear Fox but then someone else got hurt too in that that beginning oh Keegan Murray missed one or two games Kevin herder missed one yeah so they missed a couple of games early but I I hope people like Devin Carter’s injury is going to put them like 50 games missed to start the season like they’re already going to be at a tremendous amount of games lost due to injury like before they opened the season they already lost him for for 50 games and so I don’t know I’m sure they missed more than 50 total on the season due to injury because s of zenov missing 20-some games and yeah and all that uh and then of course the end of the season where you had herder and monk but even The Herder and monk injuries only cost you like 16 18 games total uh so so my point is that like the injury that you just sustained already you have time to backfill it right now but still like whether you’re going to get the same quality that you thought you might have got from Devin Carter in year one or not you’re probably not going to maybe you can get a better a more seasoned player that can help but uh that’s where like this team is is going to have to figure it out they’re going to have to make sure that their depth is okay to start this season because as of right now that’s what my biggest question would be your depth and your athleticism and length still is a question mark I also I I think the depth you mentioned that Trey lles injury Trey LS gets hurt this year you’re in deep trouble deep trouble I mean that’s Trey LS Alex Len Jaylen McDaniels like that is that’s a thin ass front Court man that’s where I I’ve seen a lot of people in the in the chat he house today asking about precious precious auua from the Knicks he would make a lot of sense to me especially if at this point if if he’s available on a minimum like yeah go go do that I think he’s a he’d be a really quality depth piece uh but yeah that’s the other thing is you know we’re talking about monk injury or fox or whoever it’s dude if one person goes down to their front Court they are suddenly uh in a in a world of hurt there so I’m betting the over on 45 and a half wins for now okay really about it I feel I would too and are we are we in agreement too that if they’re going under that they have some either there was a a really bad stretch of injuries or they are in disaster mode well yeah I I think something would have to horribly go wrong like I used to like every single uh season me and Dell one of the stat uh the stat Keepers for the Kings uh like the um the official scorers for the for the Kings we we throw out our prediction right and we always give each other like a plus or minus three so if you say 45 wins that means 42 to 48 right and we’re usually within the range but there were a couple of Seasons where it was like hey I think that they can win 45 but I want a plus or minus eight and he would just laugh like what do you mean plus or minus eight I’m like well because either DeMarcus Cousins will like everything will go smooth or there will be drama midseason the whole thing will blow up so like that’s where you have like this crazy plus minus he goes well that doesn’t seem fair I’m like well you know if I say 33 that means that they could win 25 or 41 like sure yeah that’s that’s quite a range but yeah it’s kind of one of those deals though team were yeah yeah and for for me like when precious cha if if he’s available and he wants to come in for um again the the biannual exception at like four plus million sure go for it that that to me would at least sh up some of the sh up some of the stuff you have down low we have some more fun odd stuff we can get to MLB allstar break we’ll check in with the A and giants real quick we’ll also have good idea or bad idea that’s what’s coming up next right here on The Insider sponsored by Jiffy Lube it’s ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader this dude doesn’t get it this is crazy oh he keeps calling oh I I think we might need to block him um Frank Perez we believe you I’m just messing with you you know where where he’s not Kyle kusman is not in Cabo so at least not that I’ve seen yet um that would be funny um that would if you tweet to at some point ran into KY kman Cabo you’d love to play for the Kings I would I would die no real quick the what what Javier said and did was not it wasn’t anything like salacious or crazy it was just something that uh I thought was uh what am I like childish disrespectful yeah definitely that um but like he doesn’t have that that kind of leash with me yeah like if if Manny or Ley or anybody else who typically calls a Big E is somebody like that it have been like oh okay laugh it off but it’s like I don’t have that kind of relationship with this dude oh yeah and so it just that’s okay man if you if you feel super strongly and want to have them on then we will it’s our show but I just made the executive decision in that moment to be like no no no no no you don’t get to do that no I I’m always like I don’t I I ban people on Twitter all the time I block people forever um let’s see Haron uh you’re planning your vacation to Cabo and Resort recommendations so I’m staying in uh maybe I’ll find a piece of paper here with the name on it oh it’s on the Wi-Fi um our friends have time shares and we’re staying in this time it’s like sort of a a budget version of some of their stuff just because we’re only staying here so we’re in uh Villa Del Palmar this place is really really nice in quality um anyway yeah it’s it’s nice but they also have like nicer versions of this hotel it’s one of the older versions from this time share group and uh we got like incredible deals from them years ago and that’s why we started coming here so we got like one like maybe 10 years ago we came here and it was like a a a deal where for five nights six days five nights it was $3.99 All In inclusive and you had to buy your airfare but the all-inclusive included kids under 12 up to two kids under 12 so me and my family came here for for five night and then it was like 175 bucks a day to extend that so we came here for like six nights for like less than 600 bucks and all inclusive our food bill for the week was like 2500 bucks because that includes drinks so if I go to Cabo I always go allinclusive yeah it sounds like the most oh it is yeah hey there’s somebody calling in from a different phone number now it’s definitely him right he he’s in the chat right is he oh maybe not oh I don’t know let’s have some fun that’s what we’re doing here all right we did get the email the Mandate email be cautious with your calls and everything else oh well we’re a political free world here on the Insiders yeah we’re just gonna skip right over that y we do escapism here sorry guys yeah oh see I Arco is cool I’ve been here too 10 seconds oh NOP now it’s like 5 Seconds here we go now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 James ham over there and by over there I mean Down Yonder in uh Cabo Kyle Manson here in just regular old Roseville although it’s at least nice out today it’s a normal summer day today which I which I can respect it’s not my favorite season I think it’s pretty overrated but at least today it’s not like uh oppressively hot it’s only 77 right now instead of 103 at 11:18 a.m. really nice it’s 85 here Kyle so it’s been warm little humid humid oh it’s super humid but it doesn’t really get much hotter than this from at least the times that I’ve been here the last time we here was like in the high 70s to low 80s like every single day it was spectacular so we’ve told Javier that he’s no longer allowed to call on the show yeah he was calling in and then stopped calling in and now a different number called in uh and I can tell because of the caller ID uh what are the odds that it’s obier 8 to One 8 to one it’s obier yeah no I would go like a thousand to one oh hey you’re on the insiders who’s this so what’s the problem man y thought so all right Ah that’s amazing Kyle you know what you have your own radio show and you can do what you want yeah we’ll end the beef at some point but now I’m mad I don’t know there it’s okay I’m here for it Kyle I’m here for all of it uh all right good idea or bad idea yeah yeah uh did you follow the Copa America final last night at Hard Rock stadium in Miami I did uh good idea or bad idea whatever the hell happened with security there uh it’s a bad idea Kyle yeah yeah it feels like security worldwide has like taken a step back over the last 55 hours or so um I’m not sure what what exactly happened there but you had people like like climbing in a tunnel or something did you see that like they’re climbing in through a vent like what’s happening so they they from what I from what I understand and what I was reading last night and again I was reading this in real time so if there has been some expose written I have not read it yet but it appeared that there were people who had tickets to enter early and they opened the gate to try and let those people in and the gate just got bum rushed oh and people started pouring in and they weren’t they wound up and now now we’re just I’m trying to go through the checklist they weren’t checking for like uh weapons or anything like like they weren’t doing any kind of checks you they were just letting people in uh ticketed people with seats were finding that there were already people in their seats but security was telling them they couldn’t do anything about it you had people climbing up like the side of the stadium to get in you had people climbing in the vents that’s what you were talking about getting into the vents ventilation system it’s wild I saw people climbing out of a vent on the inside it is insane dude and honestly it makes me feel like I’m lacking in my sports fandom I would never do that and it’s because I don’t have that dog in me like that’s that’s that’s what it that’s what I think it comes down to uh no whatever whatever that was security-wise was an Abomination like that that is dangerous it was already hot and humid there and there was already a crush of people there who um who were going to have I think I think a little bit of a problem anyway just from if you’ve ever been in a crowd and it’s hot you just you got bodies running into you it’s hard to breathe um and on top of that you have the security risk that comes with just letting people willy-nilly run into a stadium I know they did the best they could but whatever they did uh before the event to prepare for the event wasn’t good enough not at all that was a scary scary situation thankfully uh nothing happened during the game again I haven’t I haven’t read up on on any expose that’s come out since our show started if if one has um but it looked like everything went okay but bro if I had paid two grand or whatever it was going to get into that stadium and I didn’t get to get in because it was at capacity with a bunch of people who didn’t have tickets o oh I’d be so mad Kyle they said the ticket was like 960 average ticket was like 963 bucks or something so I’m gonna guarantee there are a lot of angry people who didn’t get in or whose seats weren’t there when they they went to go to their seats that’s not great man like what a what a complete failure especially in security yeah really tough uh but congratulations to Argentina winners of Copa America uh really sad to see lonel Messi go down with that with that nasty ankle injury but Argentina pulls through anyway in extra time uh really really fun watch there in uh in Miami last night number two Brock pie ESPN has been doing their top 10 position rankings where they interview Executives and Scouts and coaches and then they rank the players based on those interviews Brock pry an honorable mention outside of the top 10 of the uh top 10 quarterbacks good idea or bad idea to list Brock pry outside the top 10 at this point well that’s a bad idea I mean come on now I mean look at his stats from last season and his stats are only going to go up he got more weapons his his roster’s better like I I don’t get that at all I mean he’s he’s clearly a top 10 quarterback like I don’t know so I think so so I think that what you just said is the exact argument somebody would use to say he’s not a top 10 quarterback they would go well look at his weapons and now the team has gotten now now his weapons have gotten better if if Ricky Piera is any good so yeah I look here’s I’ve decided that this is never going to end because the two sides are shouting into different voids there’s no set of facts that’s being argued over you have the people going hey uh who cares who his coaches and weapons are look at these stats he was a top five MVP finisher uh of course he’s a top 10 quarterback because they went to the Super Bowl and he was really good but then on this void you have people shouting but if he was on a worse team he wouldn’t be as good and that’s just like all right and this is just going to be interminable uh I I or I’m gonna live in the in the gray area I’ve just built in the gray area okay I don’t think he’s top 10 uh but I think he’s probably top half and and if he has another year like he had last year regardless of of what his weapons are I think he’s going to be really really hard to not make him a top 10 quarterback that’s kind yeah I’m gonna put him higher than that okay yeah I I’m gonna say like statistically speaking uh oh statistically speaking he was 45 45 and 35 4500 yards 35 touchdowns that’s what my my projections for her him would be and I think it could even go higher than that I think it can go 48 and and 38 um and the reason I think that is because uh I’m not sure that that uh you’re going to do the same thing with your running back position that you did last year um you’re going to hope that mcaffrey holds out as long that like he holds up as long as possible but I would be concerned that he won’t and so I’m GNA say that they’re gonna throw the ball a little bit more to guys not name Christian McCaffrey if he puts up 4,800 yards and 38 touchdowns in a world where Christian mcaffry is not available uh for an extended period then it would be nigh impossible to to not put him in the top 10 in my opinion but for now it’s fine fine idea okay uh A’s selling at the trade deadline which is coming up on July 30th good idea or bad idea by the A’s uh it’s a bad idea just because you already are just dirt bags and everyone hates you and I guess you can just go all in on being like the the biggest dirt bags ever but I hate it because that’s not what you should do you you at least have guys that can hit home runs and I mean at least you have that right now don’t take that away from your fans so at least fun yeah at least they hit eight home runs yesterday I mean come on at least they’re fun they’ve scored I saw this stat and I wish I could remember who tweeted it salute to them this is not a Kyle Madison original stat the a have scored 18 plus runs three times this year no other team has done it once oh and if they they were going to trade uh in good faith with the idea of building out a real roster that’d be one thing uh but we all know what it is we all know that it’s it’s going to be if it’s not at the deadline it’s going to be at the off season and if it’s not at this deadline that it’ll be at the next one um It’s just tough it’s a tough way to uh to go about running a team I think it’s a tough idea for the a all right we’ll talk a little bit more about the uh the A and Giants going into the All-Star break team Australia uh Team USA face team Australia today in another tune-up game for the Olympics we’ll talk about that if you have takes on the Kings win total 45 and a half wins you taking the over the under call 9169 09 1320 9169 09 1320 that’s James I’m Kyle they’re Jiffy Lube and they sponsor the show this is the Insiders on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sportser clear sorry my Wi-Fi is being spotty people for most of the day it’s been okay that segment there was a little bit rough that’s fine H sorry we’re on our phones chatty house what’s going on um Ley did why did Spurs trade Rob Dillingham who looks like a better Prospect than Stefon castle for 2031 pick I don’t get it um I I believe what they’re doing is banking on the fact that they’re going to be really really good in 2031 so seven years from now when Victor wanyama is in their in his prime they’re going to have the Kings pick swap in 31 they’ll have uh Minnesota’s pick the they’re going to have all kinds of stuff we coming back no we got two minutes uh like three minutes I’m gonna get water yeah go yeah this is a good question Ley I mean to be honest with you I was surprised especially that it’s that far out but it really feels like they believe that they’re on a path and they want to have every asset in their in their arsenal when Victor wiama is sorry if my Wi-Fi is kicking out and kicking in doing the best I can here this is this place does not have the Wi-Fi that the last place did it’s not nearly as good so I’m gonna be on the show I think Monday uh Monday Tuesday Wednesday this week hopefully I’ll s I’ll get better uh Wi-Fi by the end of the day um but uh then Kyle will have friends in on Thursday Friday I know it’s struggling aler and Jay I tried to switch to my phone earlier and that didn’t help either but it was it was solid this morning yeah lezy I’m feeling way better I can actually swallow don’t don’t pause me there like I had yeah a flat I had a problem there for like five or six days where that was very difficult and hurt you want to S come wave at the chatty house the beautiful Mrs ham is coming in the window hi Mrs ham Kyle said hi o the top 100 athletes of the 21st century by ESPN oh Kyle we must dig in tomorrow show I’m gonna aggregate the out of that wait um she’s at the beach she’s happy all Vibes 20 seconds step one for six from three yucky all right here we go now back to the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Madson brought to you by Jiffy Lube on ESPN 1320 I’m about to sound like a hater and I don’t mean to be I know it’s so I’m acknowledging that it’s going to come across this way Kyle’s gonna hate hate hate hate hate yeah I no no wait no no I’m not going to it’s just going to sound like that okay and follow me because this has nothing to do with well we’ll get to it um why is Tyrese halberton on Team USA it feels it feels a little bit odd to me uh when he’s running around out there he played 18 minutes today in there in the in team USA’s win over Canada went two for four from the field uh both both of it or all four of his shots were from three a rebound two assists he was a plus nine he had six points he just it doesn’t I don’t love the fit you know what Kyle I what I don’t want is for him to be part of Team USA and going around talking about like he’s a villain like oh everybody doesn’t like me I’m a villain like dude you’re on Team USA like I and I I don’t want to take away from who he is as a player because I think tyres Salton is a phenomenal player I agree but when you hear a head coach of of a team State at the beginning of of like a camp that we believe that every single player here is a Hall of Famer it’s like okay look man like you have to earn that and most of the players on that team 10 of them are like knock down Shire Hall of Famers right like Anthony Davis is a Hall of Famer LeBron James Steph Curry like LeBron step Kawai before he left like right ker heading that way yep Deon Booker is on his way Drew holiday probably there yeah he’s probably there now with his uh his two rings out of bio’s tough he’s not there Anthony Edwards trending that direction early probably yeah no joelan beats a Hall of Famer so I mean that’s what I’m talking about though like if you’re we’re talking all MVP caliber players a bunch of MVP caliber players like oh MVP caliber players James go ahead yeah he’s he’s not there yet he’s not there yet and um you know I just think that like for me like eventually Tyrese Halbert might get there but his inclusion on that team is kind of strange when there are guys who are like Bonafide Hall of Famers that you would go oh yeah that guy’s in no matter what it feels like and again this is not this is not hating I think that Tyrese halberton has a has a chance to be a really good player on a on a really really good Pacers team for and maybe the best player on a really good Pacers team for a long time but right now his inclusion on Team USA and maybe it’s because he’s around he played in the FBA World Championships and he’s he’s been part of the program and we know how important that is so maybe maybe that’s what this is but to me it feels like halberton still just drafting off of the the energy he got at the start of last year where he was going 20 and 10 every night and was incredible and hitting game-winning shots and and just kind of being a monster and he wasn’t that player once he came back from his injury and so maybe maybe I’m jumping the gun and maybe he’s he’s going to be a way better player next year post injury and having an offseason he’s getting to chill or whatever but right now it seems like the tyres halberton train like stopped a while ago but everybody expected it to be X miles down the road and still they’re operating like it’s still X miles down the road even though it’s not it has slowed down precipitously yeah but at the same time you do need to bring your younger group along with you and I get it because he is part of the young core of of great players that are they’re gonna be here and you know again um I feel like dearn Fox isn’t included in something like this because because he walked away from Team USA a couple of years ago and he had a chance to play in the games uh what in China and but he was in guaranteed a spot and and he walked away from from the program and once you walk away from the program they’re they’re very Petty that that’s what it feels like like they they weren’t listening they weren’t understanding about the why and they also wouldn’t commit to him and wanted him to commit to them and go to Australia for two weeks before being gone for like four to six weeks uh playing in the games and and they wouldn’t commit to him even making the team and he was going to miss a wedding he was going to miss all this stuff right and so for me like there is uh like they’re a little weird in the way that they they build out their their group and like look dearen Fox was a huge huge like u19 player for them like he played with Team USA all through like the high school years and was really good like him and Harry Giles and like a lot of those Jason Tatum those guys but um once you burn that program they they they hold a grudge and so I think that there are other players that could have been there that might have been in better fit or might be better two-way players um you know than than Tai and that’s not to hate on Tai because I I I I do think Tai is the next generation of of great NBA players and and there’s a good chance he is a Hall of Famer whether he makes it or not we’ll have to wait and see I’m also already over watching Joel embiid play basketball it’s a tough watch now man like he was he was and again this is not he’s he’s an MVP candidate and if the 76ers are going to win a title he’s going to be at the at the center of it figuratively and literally but his game compared to when you just watch Steph and LeBron and Jason Tatum and Devin Booker and Drew holiday and Tyrese halberton even uh you you see these guys moving around on the court Anthony Davis and Bam out of Bio they they’ve been playing together a lot which is insane but then as Jo embiid and it just doesn’t the style of play is is it’s jarring the ju toos between the way he plays the game in the way the rest of Team USA plays is crazy I he can’t be your starting center I mean maybe he can’t because he’s so much more dominant than everyone else but I I think the biggest problem for me is that he just looks like he’s dragging his body up and down the court and like that’s why I’m kind of like red flag here like what are we doing why are you why are you doing this to your body um we already know what happened last season with him like falling apart and not being able to play a substantial role and even in the playoffs like it was sad watching him play in the playoffs and I I kind of feel like it’s the same exact sad that you’re watching him right now he just his body just isn’t there and he should be spending the summer rehabbing and making sure he’s ready for what’s coming up next and working with the training staff that can like get him to elite elite athleticism again and I just don’t know that he can do that and spending all this time with Team USA is kind of kind of a weird like way to set yourself up for a season all that said he was pretty good today he had 10 points he had five boards he had an assists he went uh one of one from three he went two of five excuse me three of six overall from the field in in 16 minutes and yeah maybe that’s it maybe he starts and maybe he plays 16 minutes but man the BAM out of Bio Anthony Davis front court is nasty oh yeah that’s filthy dude yeah those two combined today let me see 10 of 17 from the field uh 27 points two blocks two steals two assists 16 rebounds Anthony Davis had 17 and 14 damn yeah I mean and defensively I you don’t get any better than that like if you’re a team like from like you’re an Olympic qualifying team and you’re like oh no we’re in Group D or whatever it is at USA is you’re just like oh no like how do you compete with that those dudes are so Elite defensively especially together I need to see him play against France I need to see the wemi go be front court against uh against that duo but I I’m it’s funny what the Olympics does because I’m like hell yeah Team USA in any sport any competition I’m all about it whether I’ve heard of your sport or you or not you are now my favorite athlete in that sport hands down and it’s funny because we talk on this on this station a lot about Anthony Davis in the context of Lakers V Kings and we know that demonus sabonis curls him up into a paper ball and toss him in a trash can every time they face each other and yet now Anthony Davis going for 17 and 14 I’m like he’s dominant guys the future Hall of Famer like who’s slowing down Anthony Davis I don’t know I don’t see it is very Anthony Davis now yeah I think it’s it’s really interesting too because Davis is like I mean a first battle Hall of Famer um but you do have that that always that want that he never sort of fulfilled his greatness and I’ve talked about this like like I don’t know if you can appreciate a guy fully until he’s on your fantasy basketball team or your fantasy football team like what if you’re like oh I don’t I don’t truly believe in him and then all of a sudden he’s on your team and I I had like 12 games this season where he put up 100 points in fantasy basketball bball and like an average a good player is putting up like 32 and you’re like what in the like how did he get to 100 points again and then you go look and you’re like okay 28 points 14 rebounds six assists yeah four blocks two steals you’re you’re just like he is a Marvel when when he’s going and uh so yeah I I mean he’s a first battle Hall of Famer I I I’ll give him that but at the same time Deon sabona still just like crushes him yeah um real quick before we before we get to the handoff because I don’t I forget if it’s DLo or KC today but I don’t want to talk baseball with them and bore them um Casey would talk Casey will talk baseball if if Casey is here we we’ll talk some baseball but I I know that’s not uh not Daman in fact you know what I would talk baseball with Daman but I have questions about daman’s vacation um and he is here by the way looking Dapper as hell so um tune in to youtube.com ESPN 1320 for that the Giants at the All-Star break three games under they walked off the twins yesterday on a little league home run oh that was so much fun I love a little league home run so Mikey hit one in tripl alley he has the triple and then they overthrew Third Base into the Dugout Mike yky scores ball game over the giants three games under at the break and I don’t know that there’s a team I’m more interested to watch at the deadline because you’ve got teams like the Dodgers who desperately need help with their pitching staff um you had the Phillies who are the best team in the National League how do how do they uh how do they get better you have teams like the Marlins who are not good but they have players like JZ Chisum and and uh and Jesus Lardo who could be available who could really kind of change the the complexion of an All-Star of a of a playoff race the Padres are always going to be a factor but I don’t know that there’s a team I’m more interested to watch in the Giants because there’s a chance that they go for it and they trade some top prospects and they bring in a big name and and people will rejoice and oh my God they’re going to try and make a push but also they’re three games under they have Blake Snell back pitching better they have Robbie Ray on the comeback Trail to to add to their rotation Marco Luciano’s been playing better uh Elliot Ramos has come on as an All-Star I could see Farhan zi sitting on his hands at the deadline maybe maybe adding a reliever here maybe adding a backend starter but but nothing big um and I could see the Giants still making a little playoff push just based on that and if they don’t make a move though I can’t wait to see how their fan base reacts why don’t they just go fleece the a oh they did they should just go fleece the A’s I mean the A’s clearly want to like be sellers like they always are I mean what would Brett Rooker look like in a in a giant uniform I mean boy those trades don’t a lot as and Giants deals yeah but dude Brent Rooker would look nice in the middle of the Giants lineup given up I’ve given up on Brent on the on the on my Brent Rooker take that like okay this a little flash in the pan he had a nice year but okay now Brent rooker’s good Brent Brent rooker’s an All-Star caliber player oh no he’s he’s a launcher of home runs and he’s under team control for like another three years yeah yeah like super super inexpensive like what are you doing but but look it’s the A’s it’s what they do like Shay langelier should not be comfortable at all he’s hit too many homers even though he can’t bat over 210 he’s hit too many homers and he’s going to be someone that people are looking at and and like that whole entire team you just like it’s a bummer to watch but but why not if you’re the Giants go go pillage e eaten 85 in the chat says Rooker Miller Butler typically on a typical team on a regular team on a regular baseball team that would be a trio that you’re looking at and going dude the next three or four years it’s going to be scary out here yeah especially when you add gof and you add Sodom and yeah yeah I mean all of a sudden you’re going oh hey but you can’t you can’t do that that’s the whole A’s ethos is don’t get excited about anyone ever um I’m interested to see though the A’s have obviously Mason Miller has been like a a top trade Target for basically anybody who is is uh in need of of pitching help which is basically every Contender every every contender could always use another another pitcher specifically a dominant closer right M or dominant back end of the bullpen guy but the a is it at first it sounded like they might trade him but now the asking price is so high I’m very interested to see if a team does come meet that asking price and if the a are willing to get off of a a 25y old looks like dominant closer in the Mak with one year of in uh Major League Baseball experience so team control for five more seasons something like that just crazy C czy but yeah I I wouldn’t I wouldn’t be shocked if if they just like let it all go I mean it’s just brutal to watch me neither yeah but maybe they don’t maybe they’re uh gearing up to come to Sacramento with with a ton of talent in tow and they’ll be exciting they were exciting yesterday they beat the Phillies eight the Phillies by the way best team in baseball just swept the Dodgers and then lose two or three to the A’s the A’s had no runs through three Innings yesterday and finished with 18 thanks to eight homers that there was a shot by Lawrence Butler that was I don’t know what the the tape measure said but my goodness just a nuke dude yeah he hit it to Right Center like in the second deck just ridiculous yeah and it didn’t he’s not even a big dude just like going up there and mashing so yeah like you got a lot to build around um and I would be interested too like if everyone’s so excited about the A’s coming to Sacramento next season like how do you feel with them ready to get this roster again and that’s something like hey you know this is a the team that you think you’re going to be watching next year yeah yeah we G we can dive into that tomorrow for sure because it’s time for the handoff everybody Welcome in Damen Barling he’s back in the building after his vacation uh looking outstanding by the way I’m just happy James is alive based on the few times I tuned in from international waters I wasn’t sure if J was going to make it we worked on it uh feel he’s feeling a lot better looks a lot better uh big shout out to Jesse for filling in that was uh that was big time how’s it how’s it going man refreshed yeah yeah sure definitely no it was good no it’s fine it was a it was another week no it wasn’t that it was just a tough week to be away that’s that’s all it was it was it was a tough week to be away obviously there was a lot going on here uh a lot going on with the Kings and U but sometimes you you you you you step away for uh the people that are important to you and that’s what I did and I had a great week love that for you sure what’ you do uh I went to where James is at right now just right there right there same exact spot James is at I was I think I just I I think James and I just switched rooms along the way and why didn’t why didn’t you set up like this then um I now I’m questioning your workout again the vacation wasn’t for me the vacation was for others so it was about them very good well that and I took two this is my second one like the first one I would you know I dropped in a couple of times but that was because it was the draft and it was the start a free agency but this is more like we’re back to normal sort of I’m just not at home or at the studio again I’m just happy you’re alive oh yeah I was sick last T last week and it was like yeah okay oh no I we were working through it like there’s literally nothing I can do about it right now but no it just if James is going to die just die during the show it’ beting I mean that clip will go hyperv viral I’m still on penicillin just so you know I’m still on penicillin for another days love that that’s great that’s great everyone else at the resort I’m sure is thrilled H yeah so demard Rosen is on the Kings now how about that yeah who knew yeah uh thoughts no so it’s so so Monty McNair today I saw some people tweeting about it I guess he kind of said like this is it this is the roster this is the core group of players were going into camp with and it feels to me like they got better so I don’t want to complain I don’t want to be the like oh now I was all in on the D rozen thing but now I’m out on the Kings yeah but I think they got better but their roster still feels like woefully incomplete yeah so my opinion and and I didn’t hear exactly what Monty McNair said but my opinion on that is like yeah the the core of the roster is set the core is is DeMar de rozan and and uh Damonte sabonis and dearon fox and Keegan Murray and Malik monk that’s the core of the roster sure and but but I that doesn’t mean he’s done doing other things it doesn’t mean he’s done making moves I think the um you know there’s a lot that we’ll that we’ll talk about I I don’t I don’t think the Brandon Ingram I don’t think there’s anything to discuss in regards to Brandon Ingram at all in the Sacramento Kings Kyle kma Kyle kozma will be interesting I think there’s a lot of flaws in the acquisition of Kyle kosma I think it would probably result I think I think no discussion can be had about acquiring Kyle kosmo without him waving his trade kicker I also think there’s concerns about the third year of his contract given the fact that in the third year of his contract I’m sure they expect the Aaron Fox to be making a ton of money damont sabonis to be making a ton of money Keegan Murray be making a ton of money so there’s probably a lot of flaws in that as well and I think you’re probably looking at at guys like Davis Berton I think you’re starting to look at a lower know I don’t mean a lower tier of players like you’re you’re just looking to fill out your roster a certain way so I don’t have any issue at all with with Monty saying No this is this is our roster this is the our Core group I don’t have any problem with that at all because I I thought that was the case when when they when they landed Dem M de rozan I’ll tell you what something somebody told me Zack beudy actually a rivercats radio broadcaster said this to me when I was a young baseball broadcaster and it meant a lot to me and I’ve carried it throughout my career he said nobody’s hanging on your every word and I went wow that’s really helpful Z thank you and I’ve taken that with me uh and then I’m at the chatty house the chatty house if I use one word that I’m just like I couldn’t think of something so I just said they’re on me yeah I said woefully short that’s probably strong and I apologize wul short is the Blazers oh that’s not a competitive playoff team it’s not the king’s roster is just a little thin in the front Court there you go yeah and I and I Thanks Tay I think that’s gonna be I I I think that’ll be rectified but the the name that the Sacramento Kings acquired this offseason is DeMar D rozan I don’t think there’s another player they’re going to acquire that’s even remotely close to that caliber of well even if they do acquire somebody else it you know even if they take a big swing like Kyle kusma that’s not Demar brosen so I get what you’re saying yeah I mean you could still make a substantial move here I think that there’s a lot of posturing especially with uh Brandon Ingram and I think we’ll revisit this at the deadline and they think that they can probably still get value and they want to see where their Seasons at and I and I get it um but I still think like kozma they just don’t want to pay two first round picks and I wouldn’t either yeah I I think the Kings will be far more likely to revisit the Kyle kosma situation than the Brandon Ingram situation yeah I think unless they can land Brandon Ingram as you’re talking about James at or near the trade deadline for what they consider next to nothing then I I I think that I I think they absolutely would do it I don’t think Brandon Ingram is a priority for them or I don’t even know if like they created I I I I don’t know I don’t know but I think if you created a list of players that they want I don’t think Brandon Ingram’s in the top two it’s the moneye it’s the money yeah probably yeah probably yeah I think there are probably yeah I I think there are several things that play with Brandon Ingram and certainly the the his his future earnings are a factor as well well and really quickly on that just before we go like the difference between brand and Ingram for herder and Barnes where you’re swapping out 35 million for 35 million and the other way it is not good so sorry K what have you guys got coming up on dowlo and Casey um we’ll talk a little bit about the well not a little bit we’ll talk a lot about summer league we we truthfully I can tell you like we’re we’re gonna Vibe man we haven’t been together like we weren’t together at all last week we haven’t been together for almost I think like 12 days so oh my God because we had field day that’s right yeah and um honestly man we’re gonna have we’re gonna have fun we’re just gonna get reacquainted with each other can’t wait and I can’t wait to discuss the cost of Kenny’s t-shirt because I just Googled it that’s a lot crazy he he moves in a different tax bracket than you and he sure does all right uh James salute go enjoy your vacation uh Damen Barling Kenny carway coming up next the Insiders back with you tomorrow at 10 a.m. until then drink water and be nice people go enjoy the pool James I’m out I am gonna go enjoy the pool Tay I was being serious like thank you for holding me accountable for my words genuinely thank you sweet goodbye everybody see you uh see you tomorrow e e e e e and we in here what’s up Squad good to see y’all good to see y’all up man hope everybody had a great weekend man okay all you guys do not start just wearing white t-shirts from here on now man where that hey hey Kenny where can I get that super cool t-shirt at where are your blessings bro don’t be ashamed of being rich I’m not not you ain’t you ain’t rolled in in a domestic shirt in weeks stop [Music] it yeah yeah yeah we got him screaming D KC [Music] we got we number one spot we a number one spot for some sports huh got the city going crazy when we work huh we top two but we ain’t two we in first huh and when you need the real we is who you search D KC D KC D we your number one SP what’s good what’s good one more time cuz we missed y’all welcome in here to the Monday July 15th Edition of D and KC you know what’s a great way to settle back in with your squad with your crew with the chatty house after like 12 days of not being able to do a show after 12 days of being out of the building welcome it’s when your boss pops his head in here and goes hey when you got a second can you come see me like dog I’ll see you at six like you didn’t see me when I got here an hour and a half ago no no hey hey when you get a second come see me yeah no like what you want after not seeing me for 12 days isn’t going to be sitting on my mind for the next 10 minutes that was a wild boy yeah yeah that’s a wild dude that’s a wild dude I’m Daman Barling the ultimate needle mover in God B himself he’s Kenny carway yes sir acknowledge me and we in here man uh it’s good to be back glad to have you back it was touch and go for a quick second I mean I got the text message on Friday and then I got another one last night so that’s that’s that’s fun because I I I tapped in on Friday to hear you read a fake text message nothing fake about that no no okay read the read the text message for btim again that you allegedly got on Friday and we’ll compare this to the text message that you were allegedly reading on Friday afternoon yeah yeah me to Daman yo D what’s going on man hey man hope you enjoying the vacation can’t wait to have you back on Monday Damian listen I’m only doing this because I’m contractually obligated to that’s not even what you said on Friday I’m on a remote island where I won’t get any access to no no I’m sorry where I won’t get any reception and you peons won’t have any access to me good writtens you so real quick Jesse Jesse don’t even know this I I text him last night yeah and I was just like yo Dam um just tapping in man hey true bro it’s great to have you back Damian how did you get my number again lose it and I’m only coming back because my contract makes me this whole conversation is too poor for me leave me alone I’ll see you at noon okay okay D so that’s that’s that’s what we’re doing that’s fine that’s what happened no that’s fine so when when when you alleged that I was on a remote island I was actually at home but good no so you got a house there okay no here all right cool no here’s what I encourage everybody to do is uh Google a I what are you R you talk t-shirt what are you talking about Google that don’t stop and when you talk about being poor stop like you you’re literally the the the woman with the money herself talking about there’s poor people around there’s poor people around I’m just just glad you came back to slum it with us this dude right here there was there was no place uh I would have rather been uh than here with you guys uh last week again not to say I didn’t have a fantastic time with the people that I was with and where I was the vacation was a little bit out of sort because normally is everybody I mean I’m a creature of habit we normally take time off in August right his training camp is coming to an end we’re in the preseason uh of football we’re getting ready for NBA training camp and we know that with the exception of a day here or a day there like that’s it we’re here the rest we’re here to the end of basketball season uh but there were some things set up and this was a important time away uh for for people close to me so it was important for me and it just so happened one of the biggest stories in the history of the Sacramento Kings broke two days before we left okay all right look I’m just look we got to call spade a spade I mean let’s let’s not bury the lead who broke the story you know what I mean who broke the story you know I mean go who broke the story man H horns man come on we gotta call spay to spay who broke the story DLo and KC broke the story I mean I look I appreciate the the the the the point guard the team leader that you’re making it but the tweets didn’t come from D KC they came from one Twitter account as they should as they should and the flowers need to be given come on now come on man you was all over that you was all over that fck back Shams come on yeah yeah yeah yeah my guy was all over that stop playing with him stop and that’s two that’s two since we’ve been on the air that we was all over stop playing with it I actually thought about that and I appreciate it it’s three because there’s one I always forget about too which one me and James broke that dear signed with clutch ah I remember that I remember I remember and it’s funny and I was telling I was telling Casey this was telling Casey this it’s funny because this isn’t what we do like in no way shape or form is DLo or KC a reporter not that we don’t take what we do here very seriously because we do but we also we’re we’re not Shams we’re not wge we’re not Adam shefer we’re not Chris Haynes hell we’re not James ham that’s not what we do but every once in a while we dive into those Waters when we we know we have information we know that it’s reliable we know we can like we we we’ve we we follow the reporter channels and I noticed that some people don’t like that there were a lot of people smiling in my face on Saturday night oh but I know that they were not pleased with what DLo and Casey were doing that day I got fake people showing fake love me straight up to my face but it was it was uh it it I and I’ll be I don’t enjoy that because you know I I our information was good on a lot of levels but there’s still a there’s still a twinge of like okay be careful how you word this and I started getting an inklink so we have maintained this from jump dear de rozan was a target of the Sacramento Kings all off season we knew that and I I don’t I don’t want to say we we didn’t talk about it a lot because we didn’t think it was going to go anywhere but we really didn’t know like what Sacramento had to offer what Demar was looking for we didn’t know a t of GNA happen but we knew that the Kings like Demar de rozan and for those that you know follow and and and watch Pretty intently you heard us mention in a time or two and then we would kind of leave it well that Friday night that Friday afternoon probably around like 4:00 we started to get a pretty strong sense that hey like Demar de rozan and the Kings is like super real and I hit up the group text like man there’s something like really really happening here and then by Friday night we had talked to a number of different people who not only were like yeah the the kings are in a good spot to land Demar de R rozan but like I think the kings are I think the Kings got demard de R rozan but there was still the it’s not announced and I know he’s coming to Sacramento tomorrow and I was telling Kenny this story and I’m gonna censor it a little bit for the radio I knew dear was going to be in Sacramento on Saturday and it was like I I I followed proper channels uhhuh and got nothing and I checked in with a few people to kind of verify hey do you know anything about dear yeah he’s they’re gonna be in this Sacramento around like 11 11:30 something like that all right thank you send the message that demard de rozen’s meeting with the Sacramento Kings you know today in Sacramento Shams literally tweets it like five minutes later now I’m pissed now I’m now I’m mad because I know where Shams got the information from I’m like all right this is what we’re doing I already know everything so I’m just gonna dance around this as best I can while still protecting everything at at play there’s multiple people here who could tell you they knew the they knew the trade everyone involved Friday night you knew it Jesse knew it Kyle knew it we knew Harrison Barnes was going to send but there’s still a level of yo this is that’s it’s HB like you can’t put that out there until like the right time a level of respect yeah you can’t you can’t do that you there’s a lot of people that you have to protect with this type of stuff and so the whole like and I remember Saturday morning I remember walking I remember walking Sprout I remember getting home it was like 8:30 it was like four million degrees I think that day oh man and I sat on the edge of my couch with with my phone in my hand for almost 4 hours between tweeting texting and calling trying to figure out if this thing was really gonna like is this real has it Fallen apart is he still on his way all of those types of different things so can tell you like with 100% certainty this is not a bag that I like the the reporter bag that’s not that’s not what we do which is why we’ve done it three times when we when we uh when we heard Malik negotiated with the Sacramento at exactly 3:00 uh like beat’s asses though we got it all right let’s go with that we were with James and I like I didn’t even I had gotten word that that dearn signed with clutch and someone had said to me like hey there don’t report it yet like there could be some there could be a reason it’s not public so I took it to James and I said James can you go to dearon and ask him and if if he confirms it can you get his okay to report it and James did all of those things got his okay so we ran with it this one this one I just I didn’t even at like 6:15 it wasn’t like done dun dun dun so it was just I know I’m gonna take the L on this I’m not gonna get it I’m not gonna be the first to say that demard de rozan is the Sacramento King but follow up with everything the best so the only tweet that I had planned was the Harrison Barnes tweet that was the because that was the one thing I knew if I tweeted that right when the trade happened it would have an impact because we’re losing Harrison Barnes right and man I wanted I wanted it but I knew I knew I couldn’t have it and I I was telling you even though like um reporting like said we you know we had our information but like reporting wise the even though I knew you was on it the first person I saw was Chris H that’s the first tweet I saw and and I like all right cool you know what I’m saying but this this was uh it’s something that that we we had some good good Intel on for sure the the funny thing you talk about how like you didn’t enjoy the process I remember um Stephen a talking about the LeBron to Miami thing and he had it like maybe a month before and afterwards he I even Stephen A was like I didn’t like I don’t like this you you might not see me doing this too much more of because I don’t like this well there there’s always a semblance of like is this like it because by by the start of the game the first game at the California Club I had leaned pretty heavy into this happening to where if it didn’t happen oh it was gonna it was gonna hurt yeah and there was no indication whatsoever it wasn’t going to happen none even when I even when I started hearing things no inclination that it wasn’t going to get done right and then when I saw V was just sitting Courtside I was like this good it’s good and then he doesn’t come back for the and I knew the idea was what we got the introduction of demard D Ro in between games and I was like all right we I think we’re good I think we’re good I want I want to hear more about this because I haven’t heard about uh I know it’s a week ago but I still haven’t heard about like uh being in the building how it played out the fans all this other stuff man and and you were there so I just real quick before we dive into other stuff I want to I want to go back a little bit and hear a little more about that well we’re just vibing out man we’re we’re we’re just happy to be back in studio I I hated missing last Monday show um we haven’t been been able to talk about field day yet man come on man hey man no we’ve been teasing Phil day for a week and I think it’s gonna pay off too bro Phil day was crazy it’s gonna pay off in a way you guys couldn’t possibly imagine was great I still ain’t seen some of these people man come on man we’ll come back Ste with KC back together here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 I’m go see what Aaron half a billion dollar deal that he was two seconds with what up what up what up what up Jesse what up man I didn’t even say what’s up to my dog man what’s up KY what’s up chatty house everyone at a good weekend I had a productive weekend it was a good weekend but it was it was productive I did a lot of work around the house uh we got saved a little bit because it wasn’t as hot so I was like yeah let’s knock how some of this work see why does the why why does the price keep going up huh huh huh why does the price keep going up see y’all gotta stop this man because there’s people that believe you guys man there’s people that’ll believe you guys nah hey man I’ll talk about it on the 13th round a little bit but nah man n no no no no I look I’m not saying he would beat uh but I’m not saying that I’m not gonna disrespect number one pound-for-pound like that but boots he’s everything Shakur isn’t right like he’ll take some hits you know I mean he’ll he’ll he’ll do all that to make an exciting fight in the trade that’s what that was he goes against somebody like Bud he might be a little bit more defensive minded a little more cautious he threw caution to the win because he knew uh oh boy wasn’t gonna hurt him and yeah that’s all that was that’s all that was uh Terence Crawford be getting touched up too Terence Crawford be getting touched up when he fight too he didn’t get touched up when he faced Errol Spence so that was the best defensive fight I’ve ever seen him fight but he he does a lot of the same stuff where you know you can hit but um but he’s just he just mows you down after a while but it’s kind of what happened with boots in my opinion coach JT what up man appreciate you pulling up on me last week too man he said he was down down in La for the big three it’s a good look man I still haven’t been uh I still haven’t been able to get to a big three uh show I wna I want to go I wish they come back to Al I’m just more happy England lost I think shout out Spain who the the last time the Euro Cup happened I remember we did a show was it England that lost England lost the penalties to Italy in and they were just devastated yeah where was this one at this was in Germany shout out Argentina too that game was sick that was that game was crazy those was Vibes that was that was that was pure South American all of it all of it was just South American soccer I ain’t never seen nothing like that in America that was that was insane I’m talking more so like the crow and all that other stuff the scene that was crazy obviously they got to fix that stuff up or whatever but yeah they got World Cup coming yeah like maybe don’t treat as if it’s a regular season game or something like that yeah so is that kind of what happened with that like they didn’t I don’t think they were prepared for the amount of people that like like CU um the year the last year was for England when they were in the final I think it was like 2020 2021 or whatever like people were hopping that like you have to be prepared for that people really get down like soccer fans are wild that was that was crazy did y’all add drops to the board I’m glad the r came home didn’t deserve screen is different it’s like what’s going on here I only click two [Laughter] buttons oh I I don’t I don’t think she’d have a problem if I if I said this we’ll see her tomorrow TK she was she was rolling pretty tough uh TK hooked up with Cali actually in uh oh word yeah in Vegas um but yeah she was uh uh she was with Cam oh [ __ ] yeah she sent she sent me a picture and I’m like oh okay she had the studio they’ve had an interesting week yeah did you see the latest Yeah man they was getting after hey real quick before we dive uh back into things here on D KC I just wanna I just real quick I just want to let all the the wives the girlfriends um hell the kids leave daddy alone tonight leave him alone he’s going to be up for a while tonight um this is a Monumental moment I think it’s h I think it happening at one o’clock this is a general statement by the way he not just talking about himself all no this is this is all wives all girlfriends all kids leave daddy husband boyfriend alone tonight this is a moment in history because it’s back it is back it’s back Damian NCAA football I think they they talking about you could download it at like 1 pm or something was it 1M e 1 1 p.m. Pacific okay yeah yeah so look man I I didn’t already told the family and I’m gonna let them know too I’ll see you guys sometime Tuesday Morning tonight I’ve got a I got work to do andca football is back this game is sick game is Si don’t make that face D this is a big deal a big deal gosh this game is sick i’ have been reading up on it watching YouTube videos this game is nasty you been watching LeBron play it I did see LeBron was on the sticks running up the uh running up the scores Colorado Colorado might be I ain’t gonna say they’re the most used team this year but they’re gonna be top 10 most used team I got into an argument this is for another day I said shador Sanders is as good as Caleb Williams but that’s for another day I I think you’re doing a lotor Caleb shador is the truth he’s the truth we’ll talk about another day maybe next month he’s the truth but yeah like I said wives girlfriends kids Daddy’s got work to do tonight Daddy’s got work to do it’s back I don’t know who this Daddy’s you’re referring to is but it it ain’t me so wives girlfriends you can come talk to me cuz my night’s clear I do not have a in the house this is going to be able to download that game was it 10 years 10 years 10 years 11 years 14 so about 20 right yeah 20135 however it goes I did I did see the the the the post today the the thread of post about uh uh NCAA covers we wish we had had over the last 10 years and and that was pretty dope Johnny Football that would Went Crazy Johnny Football would have been crazy they had uh they’ve been having a little you know people on Twitter having fun little memes and stuff like that and they they one of them was like uh my son has an appointment at 4 that I’m supposed to take him to and then they got a picture of what was name Ben Ravine when he was uh yeah I I saw that one not g be I saw that one I can’t bro this is like CM Punk coming back it just happened oh man it’s going to be lit this going to be lit man I’m happy for y’all man cook I’m excited for y’all just had to let everybody know cuz wives girl friends kids might be like what’s wrong with dad today what’s wrong with husband let’s let’s I just hypothetically let’s act this out you’re Kenny yeah because I I think you play that role well yeah yeah yeah you’re you’re you’re upstairs in your uh your massive be careful it’s it’s just a regular that has like seven screens up there and and and you’re you’re you’re playing uh do you play by the lake no there’s no Lake anywhere near question so you’re you’re playing NCAA football and Jasmine yells from or gets on the intercom and yells from one of the other wings of the house not the Jetson I don’t have KC we need you downstairs immediately you do what hey hold on real second okay real second goes by Jasmine gets back on the intercom from the other wing of the house Kenny get your ass down here now your response is what all right give me one second I’ll be back I’ll be down there I just got to finish this play and that’s when the house loses electricity then that’s that’s when all of the electricity in the entire house goes out one second I got I’ll be down there in a second see now you got years this is why you get yelled at is because of that I’m supposed to go right in the middle of a drive I’m supposed to go no go because your wife needs you and ask you to but my my lovely wife you know my baby she understands this drive is important I gotta finish out the drive because I’m don’t think the play calling and everything you can’t just like pause and I’ll be right back because you’re in a flow it’s like I’m Kyle Shanahan it’s like I’m uh Andy Reid I’m in a flow of of my play calling let me finish the drive and then I’ll be down there and do whatever you need there’s 5 seconds left it’s Fourth and go you expect this man go do some dishes right now yeah a as someone who is getting married soon I strongly advise you change your approach to this this this why you got to let them part of part of marriage and a relationship is communication I’m communicating right now so it’s not a surprise when like hey I’m on the sticks till 3: am yeah okay okay whatever getting the chores out the way before the game starts so yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Kenny you could be on the you could be on the sticks until 3:00 a.m. when me and your two children go to bed at 11: then you could be on the six for the next four hours ask Draymond Greenhall he goes missing in his own house figure that out your co-host would love you to you know open the rundown throw some notes in there you know it’s it’s a little dry right now it’s a little tough to find content but but no get your stuff off with Colorado this this is good I don’t want to interrupt your drive here pal you know I’m I’m pretty uh I’m pretty old school with it I’m gonna take a job at like Middle Tennessee State and just work my way up until I’m not like a lot of people just jump in oh I’m gonna be Michigan no I’m not gonna do that I’m gonna play the game the way it’s supposed to be I’m gonna take that job at mental Tennessee State as the offensive coordinator work my way up you know and then eventually like six seasons down the road get you know one of my the big jobs see I gotta go with the team with the best Unis I can’t I can’t be like just bored or whatever I wonder if sax St they was on the last one so you both already pre-ordered it or I’m working on mine I’m working on mine I didn’t pre-order it yet you want a new system yeah we’re we’re on a mission over here my house got do what you gota do gota do what you gota do but yeah I mean yeah look and to be honest with you I already told reys hey it’s coming out you can get on the sticks uh oh that’s ni you’re gonna let your child play a video game that’s very nice you can play play it’s like the gun that you got him the shooting gun oh that’s cash by the way huh oh yeah basketball shooting gun the basketball machine where you shoot B basketballs into the hoop that’s what we’re talking about just want to be clear with what we’re discussing on this program but yeah you can get on the game and then I’m I’m even my wife because this can be a family affair you know we we could all get in on online D Dynasty together we could all do it together so the the gang you know you get home long day six o’clock you get home for you it’s gonna be seven um and and and and Jasmine says honey I I know how bad you wanted I I downloaded it for you it’s ready my wife that’s my wife look I I I I got some food if you want to get a game in like great why don’t we all go up together and play the first game together it’s all good because I’m a family man it’s all good but what about when one game turns into two well they gotta go to sleep at some just gonna wait it out and then that’s when I start the dynasty you know I start with I start over at uh Louisiana Tech I start my I start at two lane that’s where I start my Dynasty okay so yeah just PSA PSA okay we waiting 11 years for this it’s crazy um I’m excited for y’all before we went to break good luck Jesse talk just talking about you know you doing a great job uh walking everybody through the process of that demard de R rozen day and then like we had to go to break but at that point he had signed everything was out he was signed and that’s where you know a lot of people I talked to last week during KCM friends and all this other stuff people was wasn’t there you like the first person that I’ve talked to that was in the building at the golden one Center when people were looking down on their phones getting the message then when he comes to the tunnel so I’m just curious about how that that all went down so one of the I think one of the best parts about that day was uh getting to the arena and knowing we had kind of been on top of this story right so I got stopped a lot and after the customary where’s KC I got asked about the mar Ro that didn’t happen and I ran into Nico like I saw like like people chatty House crew but then I saw like crew crew ksfm crew like people from all over the place were coming to ask about dear de rozen and in my in my thing was just like I think it’s going to happen and I think it’s going to happen tonight and at that point that’s what I thought like I I thought it was going to happen before tip off of that second game and so that was the best part because we were on that story and um to be able to talk to people going into the golden one Center that day about Demar de rozan and your whereabouts was a lot of fun um when we got a heads up it was literally seconds like that it was final mhm it was literally seconds before the tweets from Chris and and and Shams and WJ and everybody went out so I got the it’s done and I tapped James on the shoulder and I gave James the thumbs up and that he knew it he it it was cold right but everybody knew what was going on I I tapped James on the shoulder and I said hey we’re good and James had his tweet ready and um then you just I I I’m kind of doing a lot like I’m I’m responding to a couple of different people doing a couple of different things but you just start to hear like I don’t want to call it a roar it wasn’t a roar you just started to hear noise kind of gather and then Kendrick hits oh oh it was that quick it was like it was quick okay because remember we’re between games now gotta so Kendrick hits and the volume is loud like it’s not like a little oh it’s a little between record it’s like hey this is a message Kendrick hits and then you start to there’s kind of this Rumble in the in the in the audience and you look around and you see people like are pointing to their phones and people are like hitting their friends like hey we got tomorrow tomorrow we got we got we got tomorrow and you you start to hear like you start to just hear noise it’s not not it’s not an Applause it’s not a chant you just start to hear noise the first little mini chant you heard was a couple minutes later I think not like us had finished at that point because the volume had gone back down a little bit and Monty had walked out of the tunnel to a little bit of a mini Ovation because I don’t think people saw him and then the people in his in that area started chanting Monte Monte Monte again it was kind of isol it wasn’t like you know there were I don’t know maybe 8 to 10,000 people there it’s not like 10,000 people were chanting for Monty but like the people who saw him were and it all set up for like when the Kings ran out the Ovation was pretty loud for a pre-season summer league like it was a pretty loud reaction yeah uh for that group at the golden one Center and of course you know Keon was a part of that they were you know very very thankful to have which I think is such a great gimmick that not that it’s a gimmick but it’s a great thing that the Kings do having an established rotation player It Was Keegan last year it was Keon this year there’s a benefit to those them playing in those games but there’s a lot of benefit for the fans to be able to have that guy to kind of latch on to and then Demar walks out and that that was the moment cuz not like us is playing again this time it’s just the instrumental what is this the pop out well just playing over and over well they dropped the instrumental this time and this time the reaction was loud and the number one thing that stands out to me is the smile he had on his face I I know that was the moment the Kings wanted I don’t know if dear expected that and know I know he talked about it in his in his in his introductory press conference and salute to you and Jesse who did a a great job of carrying that as I was able to to to watch it while I was away live but that like he had a genuine oh this is pretty dope reaction like not like dear has been in major situations he’s been in packed Arenas he’s been cheered for he’s been booed all of that stuff but July whatever day it was you know to get that type of reaction in that type of setting it felt like that moved him a little bit and he smiled from the walk out and the wave all the way over to to finally taking his seat with with with VC and anelie and the rest of the crew that was there before uh dear and R walked out to a equally as large Ovation because by that point I think Chris Haynes follow-up tweet about the role that dearon had played in in getting dear here had already hit and so not that dearon wouldn’t get a massive pop anyways but I think there was a little hey yeah hey you you you you got us one you got us one man that’s dope that’s man it it just seemed like a a great moment man I wish I would have been there for it man because like you said Demar coming out and the reaction uh I I had a feeling just just me reading the te Le I had a feeling this was this was the idea scenario for VC I I’ll say specifically VC because VC is like a um he’s an orchestrator you know what I mean like with these things and I could probably on Thursday or Friday whenever it was like the Rosen is coming into town he’s like oh yeah yeah yeah let’s just let’s just make sure we get this done and I want him to walk out at this particular time and it it all worked out perfectly and I I felt like that was what they were going for and I wanted to see what it was going to look like and it was it was exactly how I thought it would look when he came out the news it broke and they went they went they went crazy for him man so uh that was that was really really cool to see the the California classic and it and it it reiterated my frustration that the the classic was split because I think if it had been a full day of basketball games with the being the headliner you know I don’t know what tickets cost $20 $30 for whatever they cost for a full day of basketball I think the arena probably would have been even more full than it was because the California classic here I don’t want to like overstate it but like it is special like it’s ours like it’s it’s it’s been ours and you took it away from us once and it was a failure I don’t think this split version was a failure I just don’t think you need to keep doing it right right and having you know shuffling up the roster sending guys to play from some stupid ass Mitch Richmond trophy or something like that like this is dumb like what what are we doing we we don’t we don’t need this but that was one of the first things I thought of was in it’s you know even though the the the California classic is compared to other summer leagues is is young man it’s had some memorable moments and and I and I I’m not sure that the Demar I don’t know it’s tough to rank him because I know you can look at it sideways now that moment with baggley and like I remember I have a video somewhere on my phone I think it was the first California classic game and I think it was against the Lakers yeah the crowds chanting beat La yeah it’s it’s 16,000 people yeah chanting beatla which is just bizarre right in the in the setting that it’s in but that was a moment like that was electrif right Keegan last year you know going for 40 or whatever he did was a moment I mean this this this the California classic has had some pretty dope moments and Demar D rozan being introduced for the first time as a Sacramento King is which I don’t even think they did if I remember correctly I think they probably legally couldn’t they introduced him as six-time NBA allar down yeah uh Demar de rozan but by that point everybody knew what it was right and Demar de rozan was the Sacramento King that was I mean the the you’re right the the first game with baggley and and Harry Gil and Frank Mason and tan Fox I I wasn’t at this the Rosen one so it’s it’s a little different but that was that’s gonna be hardal was crazy and then Marvin dunks on uh France Vagner no mo vogner he uh he he dunks on him plays rubs goes crazy that was a moment this is easily number two easily number two this was this was amazing to see from a distance wasn’t even in the building it was amazing to see from a distance and it it it signifies the biggest the big definitely the biggest free free agent acquisition in Monty McNair’s uh tenure tenure as as sign right like we all love Malik now but this Malik when he was signed wasn’t celebrated by anybody but me at the time you know I mean like oh we got him we got him you know I mean everybody’s like oh Malik monk is very good player that’s a good signing and then in hindsight he turned into everybody’s the signing a month ago was significant it felt significantly bigger than the than the the two years ago yeah but I mean this we talked about it a little bit with Jason Jones but I mean this might be this might be the biggest signing in the in the Sacramento King’s history I mean we all know talking about when you sign him yeah when you sign Vlad you were like oh that’s cool man we still mad that they traded uh Mitch I don’t know what the order of operation was but like even if even if Mitch was afterwards when you got vlot you weren’t thinking yo we’re here because we got Mitch and vlot or whatever the case may be even if it was before you weren’t thinking yo we about to cook cuz we got Mitch Weber and Jason Williams I can’t explain and Kristen play together wasn’t well no what I was saying I don’t know what happened first vlat signing and then Mitch got traded or Mitch got traded and then vlat signed I can’t remember because it was a strike strike year as well so I think it’s that one Mitch traded and then VL son I think so so that made that probably made people even more mad because they people were mad when Mitch got traded they they did not like I was one of them I was like no man not Mitch and um the whole point being when you sign vlat if you had a California classic when vlat signed it wouldn’t have been that reaction when he signed you know I mean it would have just been some golf claps or whatever and keep it moving Malik monk I talked about that it was just kind of a all right depth piece all right cool to see him and fox play that’ll be cool but nobody expected anything demard d r Ro in signs and people are like you saw the reaction yeah I think it’s the the biggest free agent signing in the moment that this city has ever seen I think there’s also a um he chose us type thing like there was no not not that the Sacramento Kings were a model franchise when uh Vlad signed here but it was still they very much in kind of their infancy so to speak like they were maybe 10 years old little little over 10 10 to 15 years old 13 14 years old okay and um so there wasn’t the that’s not even as long as the playoff drought right you know what I mean so it it’s the the the idea that after salute he’s playing really well the jorus draft after the you know the the the the the fumbles with Vlade as the general manager the the constant hiring and firings of coaches the Carl the Mike Malone screw up the the mishandling of DeMarcus Cousins in that trade and all of those different things to think after all of that a six-time NBA All-Star chose to play here and he chose to play here because of that player that player and these players oh that’s a good look like there’s a there’s there’s a you know the the ending of the playoff drought we we we even like warned at the time like this is only gonna this is only going to mask so much it’s only GNA it’s it’s it’s only going to help for so long because a lot of people aren’t going to believe in this team next year and that was the case they didn’t believe in the Sacramento Kings the following year and despite the fact they again won uh uh they they they finished above 500 they they they want to play ingame they failed to make the playoffs and that validated a lot of people’s opinions on the team the year before but when you look around the league and you people look at this roster and the way that it’s constructed and the way that they play and the way that they’re coached you see that the perception may not be the same amongst like the the Demar de rozan and the the different players in the league as it is with Zack Harpers or or or coffee boys or or Ryan rillos or whoever you know National media person or media person in general that likes to look down on the franchise so the fact that a player that that not only has the resume that Demar does as a player but what feels like Universal respect across the league goes a long way absolutely and at this point it’s probably a one of one in terms of that signing given like you pointed out when the signings of vat and these other guys happened Brad Miller the kings were in a much better position when When Brad Miller came here uh we’ll come back I I don’t I don’t want to spend the entire day Reminiscing on stuff that happened the week ago it’s one thing that I hate about being gone I know everybody else has moved on but this was legit our first opportunity you want to talk Home Run Derby I ain’t gonna talk about that well apparently you guys really want to talk about field day oh no yeah we do boy this talk about field day and Kyle’s still here we gotta I I GNA break down what he gonna do on that first pitch I want to break down what are you gonna do on that first pitch we’ll come back it was uh it it was a hell of a day that was one of my favorite days of reminiscent reminiscent of the original XFL will’ll explain when DLo and Casey return here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN [Laughter] 1320 oh man that is hilarious I hate those stupid hats I think I hope they’re just like batting practice that’s I doubt it though what’s wrong with him I don’t like the white with the with the solid background I don’t like that I don’t like that I don’t like it and it looks more like a a offwhite color right because his jersey is much brighter I I know I know they you know they got a that’s my necklace look like yours well no it’s I’m sure it’s completely different I know it’s the same necklace no you guys are wearing this did you both get it from Jacob no no I don’t know where he got his I didn’t get mine from Jacob I can tell you he’s wearing the same maybe he did look he’s just throwing money on look that really is just like Kenny’s look K just money the uh I was probably the only one in the building that watched this but a fantastic finish last night or yesterday morning between the Yankees and the or great great game my Yanks yeah I could say my Yanks because I support him even though I like the orios too I do like the Oriol um but yeah the Yanks take a take a l on that one that was that was a crazy fan I watched the um Kings summer league stuff like later like on I didn’t watch it live yeah the only Sports I watched live while I was away was the W it’s the only thing I watched W was good I didn’t I didn’t even W like I I I was like look I love the Kings as much as any summer league basketball is really difficult to watch and the Kings this year is is a little tough yeah a little tough so that yeah we we’ll we’ll get to that because I had some questions because yeah normally there’s something I don’t know that there is I think so I only I only uh single out the Kings though because I’m I usually watch a lot of Summer League too and I I haven’t so much this year and I think the kings are one of the reasons why I haven’t because I’m just conditioned like looking for the Kings they don’t have nothing oh what am I watching for but I said that to say last night um me and reys started watching a Timberwolves game because he really likes Rob Dillingham and then that kind of like oh I forgot there are some rookies I do want to see like Rob Dillingham was there obviously tan Shannon was on Minnesota damn I can’t believe they got them both that’s crazy Minnesota’s crazy for that one but I think uh yeah I think I’m I might watch a little bit more summer league although they’re all probably on their way out at this point it is Monday it is after the first weekend so all those guys I want to see are about done oh yeah Reed sheeper went crazy too yeah Dr David I’m still uh I’m still collecting vinyl on the plane when I’m on the when I’m on planes I just look when I like download stuff to watch I just look for stuff that’s comforting I don’t want to watch stuff that’s like super intrigued I’m usually just watching stuff that I like so prior to the flight I downloaded um bad25 the [ __ ] Le joint the Thriller 40 uh and a bunch of Michael Jackson videos right M I’m just going to chill on the plane as soon as we land I hit up King Melly with a screenshot of with a picture of the Bad album cover like hey you think you could recreate this jacket hello how can we recreate and modernize the because that jacket is nasty and I kept looking at it like there’s nothing dated about it hell that go hard today like like like you could do it today but like you can’t just walk into the store and go give me the jacket Michael Jackson had on in the back well I mean that’s why you’re D because you don’t even think about the stores you’re like yo I’m gonna holler at my own my own personal stylist my own personal guy to create stuff and say yo I need this not everybody got it like that well you could you could just hit up my man keing Melly on social media yeah make he he can make something for you Letterman uh for the for the for the winner for the winner man I got a problem with Coach JT too uh oh so coach only come in when I’m not here I mean that’s not the case but that has been kind has been the case like he coach JT pull up man pull up again man we got literally anytime like pull up like I I’m check the timeline in the oh JT in the studio oh is that I’m sorry is that is that Sarah Hodes sah Sarah Hodes ain’t been in the studio in four and a half years she said she pulling up she said she back she said she back there’s Jake oh well Jake was in the building he he had a gift for you too he had the the Yukon saw a stupid ass Jersey he had on couldn’t get over how stupid he looked by the way I don’t know if you heard we got a new segment we got a new segment did you hear got dude you can’t you can’t you can’t leave for a week again bro we tried to reel it in it kind of got it kind of got crazy it was CRA what was that Thursday I think it was Thursday I heard there was some Drake Roman Reigns talk happening Drake could do it it get well no I’m to do that was the that was the Tweet someone said hey get back because he’s comparing Drake to Roman Reigns again that would I swear to God I swear to you I stopped checking Twitter after that that that is it it becomes it becomes it BEC comes trer every day you guys thought I was crazy when I said it it’s it’s coming trer and truer every day okay every single day okay but um no so well on Thursday it was suggested to us and we have a a new segment on the show uh called the real brothers of Sacramento caller called in like hey I need a segment give me two minutes each day you want to guess who it is a regular called semi regish semi he’s he’s once at least once a week regular like when we you’ll be like oh yeah yeah yeah so it’s not TC Buddha no who lisis Okay Louis said yo your co-host ain’t there so I need you to give me two minutes today I was like all right man whatever he took five minutes and didn’t get to his point bro Kenny had a real minut like we gave you so much time like we just got to cut at what was he trying to what was he well that was the day I think we were talking about a starting lineup so he really thinks Malik monk should be starting at the two that was like a hot topic for about two days and it’s still going on right now like who should start at the two so he thinks Malik but that’s beyond we’ll get to that the gist is yeah I want to get back to that because I’m I again you look just scrap the show you’re just gonna have to catch me up on all of the stuff you said while I was away so I could respond to it and then but that’s not it Lis said yeah man uh the new segment real brothers of Sacramento and you know he wants two to five minutes every day well that was followed up by Titus saying yeah put me on the show too Titus wants to be so Titus and Lewis the real brothers of Sacramento they can get it paid for one want the show catch the real brothers of Sacramento at 356 oh man that is tremendous so be on the look out for all right the new segment here on DLo and KC the real brothers of Sacramento I love both guys so I’m I’m fascinated about how that was my and that was the whole thing so like I was like Louis you know you’re my guy like whatever but we we had to move on and then I think he he got he got upset that I cut him off after five minutes he does get upset when you as I as as I am very aware of he gets very angry even if you try to interject maybe to to put an exclamation on his point or or just to you know add to the conversation oh he wants you to shut the hell up and let him talk that’s really what happen I’ve Le I’ve learned my lesson That’s my boy though that’s my boy L man that’s my boy Titus too Titus my boy too Titus was he was coming in he he was getting his points across too this is one of the things that makes like not listening when you’re away fun one part of it is because I don’t want it to like I never want to like babysit like you guys cook the way that you cook like when you know you make meals differently when I’m not here but getting C up on everything that happened while I was away is significantly better than like listening and then like bringing it back and trying to rehash you know like not having any idea that the real brothers of Sacramento happen is put it on a shirt is absolutely Underdog put it on a Ab a disappointment to like yeah I don’t think we can make that happen the real brothers a sacamento oh manou and Titus it has been brought to my attention that uh YouTu and I did catch this as you were lying to the wonderful people I’ll put out the tweets and the text it go go ahead screenshot that text and put it out there working right now I don’t have time okay no it’s good the the the when I when I tapped in on Friday because I was home Friday and I I I tapped into my guys and you lied and then Jesse was like yeah we haven’t even talked about field day yet so if you could rewind yourself for a second to prior to the 4th of July you might recall that Fourth of July was on a Thursday we had kind of the company hey take a 4-day weekend day off Friday we were very very nervous through that stretch but it was Amplified by the fact that our uh esteemed boss Stacy Kaufman had planned what she called a field day and field day was mandatory and as she called it it was mandatory family fund and the idea was to get out of the uh office get out of the studio and interact with your co-workers who you might not get to interact with as much on a daily basis which real quick kind of worked it worked it was it was well well it did yeah and let’s also point out that uh our esteemed I say maybe go around the room and see who it worked for well you can peruse social media and find out who it didn’t work for oh man but shout out to Stacy who had originally planned field day for the day after the first round of the draft and we went to Charlie and we went to Aaron and said we can’t do that like we can’t miss that day that would be a slap in the fa we can’t right and they were like okay we understand that and instead of Stacy marching forward with field day the day after the draft she said no we need the entire ESPN 1320 crew involved we’ll do it July 2nd or excuse me it was July 3D it was Wednesday so we’re two days into free agency at that point and it’s like all right we just have to cross our fingers we had contingency plans to where if something happened on that Wednesday we would have been live on the stream we wouldn’t have been live on the radio but would we would have been live on the Stream So we showed up at this um facility because it was moved indoors because it was 112 degrees outside at 9 o’clock in the morning sounds about right and we showed up at this facility and fome and there’s there’s teams and there’s signs and there there’s bandanas and there’s colors and there’s there’s stations and then there’s there’s Chick-fil-A and all all sorts of stuff thank God there’s a first aid kitten we’ll get back to that in a second but we’re let in and it’s like you guys are gonna compete in these different events all right like cool some are mind events like putting together a puzzle of a different station’s logo which I would have rather murdered everyone in the building than do that again then there was there was uh I don’t remember what game you and I were in what that game was called that you and I are in the finals lad I don’t I don’t know is a lad lad ball lad ball there was ladder ball there was a cornhole there was egg on a spoon all this Y and that I don’t know what happened with that uh oh I think Jesse got got screwed on that situation I won but how we got the fourth like we came in fourth place I won came in first and got how does that work okay so let’s also point out the the officials who were Aaron and Stacy were worse than NBA Summer League officials they literally like they couldn’t get on the same page as to like what the rules were or what was allowed or how they were keeping track they were just kind of winging it it was points based off of Vibes I think pretty much Jess literally crosses the line five seconds before anybody else and his team finishes fourth well the great thing is they said the the team that I was the captain of finished second to last and the amazing thing is we won like three events including we won D Jenga in like two seconds because our fantastic HR rep Jen Enders was on the other team and she goes I’m gonna pull from the bottom and the whole thing topples down meanwhile the other two teams are playing for like 4 minut the longest Jenga game I’ve ever seen in my life it all PED in comparison though oh man to the way the day started we go in and the first event it’s tug-of-war now this isn’t like figurative tug-of warar this isn’t like okay a modified version of tugo no it’s a rope with one team on each end trying to pull the other one across okay I thought the funniest thing that I saw in the opening round of tug ofar was the fact that our HR rep Jen couldn’t keep her footing and was literally on the ground holding the Rope getting dragged across the field meanwhile our two esteemed officials had no idea when tug of war was over and I’m literally looking at Aaron like blow the whistle no don’t forget Paul from 98 Rock was on the ground as well at the same time little did we know that was my squad little did we know the individuals on the ground were in the best shape of anybody one event in two broken fingers Jesus goodness that hurts his right right now just ah poor Katie from the wakeup call on the red team just damn near rips her finger off wasn’t on the red team that was crazy we thought she broke her knuckle Katie was in tears for about 60 straight minutes she had ice she was trying to get her ring off all of these different things and we thought oh this is terrible poor Katie meanwhile our brother justtin case formerly of the rise guys now of the eagle his finger is pointing in the wrong direction and we realized one event in two broken fingers Jes and the binder broken out two HR reports two calls to corporate all all five minutes in the field day literally the first event the first group of the first event two broken finger I I’ll never forget Justin his team kind of loses because mind you I think they went against rich and ab right who the they were the betting favorites and they came in not playing no games because they were smart Rich was up front and Abe was in the back and Abe is a big you’ve seen Abe on this show before 98 Rock big dude Abe just lean back like Fat Joe and just held the rope and rich just oh man just walked so I see I see Justin you know he does what he does and they lose or whatever and he kind of jogs around the field and I’m like oh man and he’s kind of holding his finger I was like oh he might have jammed his finger or whatever and then he just runs off the little field soccer field Turf they’re trying to get my man some oxygen he can’t breathe I’m like yo what what’s going on then I look at Katie and she’s kind of holding her hand a little bit and she kind of walks off I said the hell is going on around here then they say next up pink and red which is me and me vers Damien I said yo you guys want me to play this game really want me to play this going on it’s like The Show Must Go On that’s the best part about all of this there’s a 40 minute delay in all of this like there was more downtime on field day than anyone knew what to do with does anyone go hey let’s dump tugga War maybe this was a bad idea I treated this like the UFC like the WWE they said no just don’t wrap the Rope around your hand this time and everyone will be fine so the red team and the pink team get called to the and look I’m trying to win but to a degree yeah I’m I’m trying to get it over with now look look mind you so Damian’s pink team they won the tuger war I’m not here to say that if that didn’t happen they I would have won or anything like that because Dam a strong boy you saw the gun show was out they got it it it might have happened the same exact way but I was I was in front and I was holding the rope and it was just really a stalemate at one point and I tried to pull a little bit both deciding how far I tried to pull a little bit and wasn’t getting any ground and once I decided I wasn’t getting any ground I said game over so I thought when when everything just kind of stopped I was like all right I’m giving this thing one strong and if Andy Hawke doesn’t lean backwards then I’m just done so I gave it one pull and I think it was at the same time that Kenny was just like screw this I gave it one pull they come flying forward we get the win let go of the Rope look down the skin of that’s what I didn’t want I didn’t even know that happened I didn’t even know that happened my palm it’s just gone it’s somewhere in the turf of this this Florence Sports facility this fome Sports facility again again we’ve got seven more events oh after this and nah bro I was done I was done I was out of there like I said I didn’t want to I don’t want to come out of that thing with my hands looking like Magic Johnson fingers or nothing like that so I said you know what I’mma live live to fight another day and I got just they they did your boy wrong because my whole game plan was to hang around first place until we got to kickball it was like yeah at the end of the day we gonna play kickball and I was like just hang around just be around just be around the top spot by the time you get the Kickball and then it’s on and popping now and then they just eliminated kickball for no reason a little bum we did not get kickball to our judges credit I think multiple things happen the injury delay in tug ofar The NeverEnding game of D Jenga that was ridiculous was causing a lot of people to get hungry and angry because this thing was dragging on a little bit longer than anyone expected and I think there was also a realization that asking asking a group of individuals to kick and run who might not normally kick and run is probably not the best idea given what has gone on here that was probably a good decision by to be you someone going down with a hamstring during kickball about an Achilles I there was a point so what happened was Kenny’s strategy was working until he went up up against oh my gosh uh Gabby Gabby to God Gabby Jesus and me were on the the ladder toss and Gabby clearly has been practicing for this moment her entire life and the finals were my team versus Kenny’s team and because Gabby is the Steph Curry of of of ladder ball or whatever it’s called um we knocked Kenny’s team out of first place that was it we lost first place by one point that would have been the one shout out to me and somehow despite the fact we won like three events we finished I don’t know we’ve never seen the scorecards we’ve we we don’t know how this thing went down shout out to me who uh pulled a Nick Young at the end of cornhole thought it was a bucket oh that was hilarious and it went clear over the board yeah Kenny throws the bag or whatever turns around throws his hands in the air I tell him brother didn’t even hit the board to lose I thought it was good I aside from uh you know my my co-workers my people’s fingers being mangled I enjoyed Phil day was also hilarious to like we do oh yeah Phil day like yeah let’s all like use this fire show up next week or whatever ready to go bro no one showed up the next week well that’s cuz they were in the emergency room poor Katie can’t even she hasn’t even had surgery on her hand yet it to the yeah yeah she I’m only saying like she’s posting videos about this so I’m not like she put the X-ray on the on the Instagram well she she also posted a video under the influence of pain medication and as I watched it I kept like look Katie’s a she’s a vet like I I was like I don’t know that this is portraying what Katie wants it to portray and then like a couple hours later that video was gone and a new video is up and she’s like yeah I was high as a kite and pain mess was no joke so I took that down because it was a little bit embarrassing that’s my girl Katie though man so it did it did the whole way I Gavin was on my team um Kevin was there as well and we we’ve interacted with him you knew him way before I did um you know we we we’ve interacted before but that um Field Day situation it did have me interacting with people more than I normally do who is relatively new here I’ve never really talked to her too much she was on my team she was the Jenga Wiz she was was insane the things she was seeing with Jenga and I interacted with people more than uh more than I normally do because usually when we’re here we’re in this studio the entire time we don’t well see and that’s the that’s the the the the thing with like us like we are the you know this crew is in here for four straight hours even even you know for Jesse’s post show work six straight hours were were were in these Studios meanwhile um once you get to the FM side you can like move around a little bit but Ken Ken stays in there Paul’s here so damn early even if he were to walk out of the studio ain’t nobody here yet right and that’s the same that’s true with the with the wakeup call as well and and and me I don’t hang around here much I come and do my job and then I leave there ain’t no sitting in the uh the kitchen doing much I can confirm you I’ll be in mid-sentence at the end of ksfm andc will be like all right man I head to El Grove but but still when we leave that show nobody ain’t nobody here except me you complex and usually Charlie and we still don’t know why Charlie’s here that damn late I think Charlie turn play too by the way Charlie played in fi day well Charlie Charlie had a very nerous racking round of D Jenga that was nerve-wracking yes help my man up help him up that was that was a an exhilarating game I thought we got extra points because we won in like 10 seconds no we tried to figure that out just three winners I was trying to get uh the esteemed Stacy Kaufman in here to explain how the officiating work uh but I’ve been uh told she’s on a call right now you see that you see those flowers Kimberly got on her just saying I mean that that’s another person I hadn’t seen in I don’t know two three weeks like to Jesse’s Point build it build camaraderie everybody come together there’s nobody here after that no legit it was so empty the lights turned off behind me at 3:30 like that’s how empty wasn’t we like oh like like certain people aren’t here like no the lights cut out before the show was over I had seen these people for two weeks that’s funny I think Kenny might have been the last one here that day I think so I think Charli what day on that Monday when we come back came back after field day I think oh no I Monday Tuesday or not Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday yeah Friday I think I was the last one here because Charlie and complex left for concerts in the park right like complex left right oh so you had the the short day no we had to do the mix we did the mix on Friday he left like right after the mix oh oh oh got you got you Charlie left before the mix he’s like I’m going to see Papa Roach ain’t gonna be there too long they had a lot of people out there had a lot of our people out there I guess Papa Ro was a big deal they come out for p Friday pilo shout out to Mickey though who won the uh tug of war cuz she she beat Abe and uh en Rich cuse she just had it down to a sign she’s like this tall and she’s like I’m just gonna squat position Mickey was practicing she would get down in that squat position and tell someone to pull her and then she was like I don’t like this so she took off her shoes yeah and then her socks and so people were wondering when you post someone I think it was you posted the picture of the the 1320 crew in their in their gang affiliated colors I didn’t realize this James didn’t have any shoes on and I didn’t notice it until someone wrote like are shoes optional or something like that and I didn’t realize I think James had tried to adopt the Mickey uh technique by taking his shoes off and Mickey was the immovable object and like I said she’s all of 411 yeah and you just she got in position and a rich almost passed out trying to and Mickey just there just there just yeah I’m not going nowhere no so she won her team won ton of War beat Rich’s ass somebody in the chatty house through I don’t remember who it was but can you imagine if we had a chatty House Field Day oh oh man the radio radio callers one hey bro hey oh man come on now Jeffy louber somebody we might have to make that happen shatty House Field we might have to make the first 25 entrance I do think we could have spent time with each other and gotten to know each other better without the broken bones well yes yes and not look not to mention as soon as lunch was over everybody was gone well I think the event was over yeah no no hanging out I mean there was food there we could have hung out well it was hot I think people were like I’m getting the hell out of here this is stupid I’m sweating I went straight to crowd therapy after that I was like this is ridiculous I don’t know if I’m sord now but I’m going I’m going to cry therapy to get this worked out good times though shout out Stacy shout out our tribal Chief well shout out Justin and Shout out I still haven’t seen Justin I still pretty soon Odyssey Sacramento is gonna be Katie and Justin uh Katie and Justin media Incorporated poor poor Elena and Jen had to work the whole time no wonder poor Jen knocked the D janga board over she has significantly greater concerns we’ll come back oh man 91699 1320 if you want to get in on the phone lines we will direct our attention uh back to the Sacramento Kings uh and a couple of other notes that we haven’t talked about that uh took place La last week that some were written about today that I think we can expand upon a little bit more we’ll do that D and Casey return here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 134 that would be that would be fun I don’t know how that would work logistically but uh shatty house versus the dental assistants on 95.7 oh you need you need video oh I mean all right Zay we’re gonna try we’re gonna try he need he needs we’re trying yeah like we we sent the text we we we sent the text we did try always Vibes Connor always Vibes Conor case he don’t you don’t you don’t uh you don’t get down like that unless he’s in Vegas tonight before yeah no no I you know what I was uh I was drinking um a lot on uh on my trip to to DC to the DMV it was cool like I you know at this at this ripe old age of uh of 40 you know how to drink right so you just kind of sip you I mean kind of sip so never never really hung over I did um I had a one night I was I was drinking with my friend’s dad and he was serving up tequila shots or not shots tequila like that’s what I like to drink I like to sip tequila and um we poured a couple we we were having a perfectly fine night but there was you you kind of like you’re T the line of like crossing over a little bit and oh damn it let’s get you another one and P poured one and it was fine it it was it was it was fine yeah and like we’re talking we’re talking and I looked over and I swore I saw him take his back yeah and I’m like okay all right I I thought we was okay so I took mine back and and put the glass down and you know conversation is continuing we’re talking about whatever and I look over and he was drinking something else the glass of tequila was still full and so I looked at him like did you pour another one he’s like no that’s the same one and it was one of those oh no oh oh no cuz now I’ve crossed over now I’ve crossed over and the glass is empty see and that’ll that’ll do it that’ll do of course Gary comes back and here you go it’s just take it easy pal and it’s like all right this is what we’re doing see that that’s so that’s what I have learned is when when you shoot something that’ll get you there quick yeah you know you said I I could probably I could probably drink as much as as anybody just kind of sipping you know here and there whatever take a shot that go straight to the blood instantly instantly I haven’t done anything yet because I don’t want to mess nothing up is it okay to press go live on that uh on that good old X because it’s not yeah it’s definitely not um I don’t want I didn’t want to touch it yeah yeah yeah yeah uh oh what a a premium account is oh you [ __ ] you [ __ ] wow what they do now X is hating wow let me let me make sure I read that right a premium account on X is required in order to stream on the platform oh you [ __ ] oh oh that’s so whack DLo and KC been destroying ESPN 1320 been destroying Twitter for months now and they said oh you know what you want to keep getting thousands of viewers you’re gonna have to pay us now that they be tripping every time every time that’s all right man we still do what we do it’s all right it’s been a while man but shout out to the folks is Sky River Casino yeah man and shout out to the humidor I was certainly sipping plenty of whiskey and smoking plenty of cigars uh in my week away but nothing can compare to the experience uh at the humidor if you haven’t made your way over there yet do so it is the ultimate Lounge in Sacramento and it’s in Sky River Casino you got to go there our next live broadcast is set it is confirmed it is a while away uh it will be uh that Monday night when the San Francisco 49ers take on the New York Jets it’s September 9th that is our next live show at 32 brw Street inside Sky River Casino so make your plans to get there uh in September but make your plans to get over to the humidor uh this summer uh absolutely amazing spot to go along with all of the table games that they have all of the slots that they have all of the great food that they have it’s a camp misplace perfect night hit up Sr Prime yeah mosing on over to the humidor and spend some time over there sipping some whiskey and and if you don’t know what type of cigar you like it’s perfect this is actually where you get spoiled yeah that’s where you get spoiled right there hey what do you like do you like something um softer do you like something darker do you like something sweet like what do you like you tell them what you like boom they’ll even like cut it for you show you how to light it all this other stuff keep it lit it’s it’s it’s a good look man my aunt uh just talked about she was over there not to like two or three weeks ago and she said that they have I think it’s if you’re in the humidor but valet parking is free or something like that that’s something she didn’t know so okay she was yeah well that might just be for members of your family so I would maybe so I mean not not for me per se I’m just saying for them because they they be making moves over there but yeah check ask ask about it when you go there if you’re at the humidor ask if valet parking is for I saw that uh sham shiria was reporting today not really reporting almost reiterating some stuff maybe adding some extra detail uh that hadn’t been out before uh regarding Lori Markin and and it’s it’s funny the thing that has has been really humorous to me being a little bit on the inside of this is the way this Lori marketing thing is being reported when and this is actually an important part of the demard de R rozen stories it pertains to DLo and Casey because that Tuesday we were on the air before this amazing field day that we just discussed is when Mark Spears first said on NBA today that uh the kings were a Darkhorse to land dear de Rosen the reason the kings were a Darkhorse at the time was because they were involved in other discussions we reached out to two different people with intimate knowledge of the situation and they both said in different phrasing yeah there was talk there’s definitely interest but it’s it doesn’t feel like it’s going anywhere the reason it wasn’t going anywhere is because the Kings had put together a proposal for Lori marinin and they had put together a pretty substantial trade package for Lori marinin no it absolutely did not include Keegan Murray but everything else that you think think it might include including draft picks for years and years and years and years to come that’s what it was and I found it and and in and and to the king’s credit they put a deadline on it it’s why things with dear happened so quickly the kings were interested in Demar de rozan Demar de rozan was interested in the Kings they had this proposal out there for Lorie Markin and that in essence Utah ignored I was going say and it was going to wipe the Slate of right whatever right they had to know where that was going before they did anything else and when it didn’t get when it was essentially okay this is going nowhere they went right back to Demar de rozan and that’s why things escalated so quickly when wge first started talking about uh Demar de r rozan that night on ESPN which I think was the Fourth of July and then it just obviously exploded behind the scenes Friday into Demar de R rozan being a Sacramento King and at the California Classic on Saturday but the funny thing about the Lori marketing trade is there kept being reports about this massive offer that the Golden State Warriors have out for Lori marinan there were at least two other teams Sacramento being one I think San Antonio might have been the other but I’m not sure Sacramento was definitely one they had an offer nearly identical to what the Golden State Warriors had on the table and as I was hearing things behind the scenes and then reading things online oh this is Danny a on that stuff again Danny a on that stuff again doing what he do and now he and now it’s almost like and I think to Mike dun Levy’s credit I think Mike dunlevy recognizes we’re essentially bidding against ourselves at this point Sacramento I don’t think is out out but I think they’re also like dude you we threw our best offer at you you didn’t respond we moved on right now if you come back to us that means you’re not getting the response that you thought you were going to get from other people and everybody is watching this August 6th the facto deadline where they can you know kind of start doing some things with with with Lori marinin in Utah and there’s a there’s a really interesting window in which Lori marinin can be traded and can’t be traded it’s kind of fascinating but the reporting it’s the most Danny Ang thing in the world is there is all of this noise surrounding a trade on a of a team that he is a general manager of and for anyone that has followed the game for the last 10 years you just need to be under the assumption there’s no trade happening this is what he does this is what he did in Boston year after year after year after year it’s what he does not that Danny doesn’t know what he’s doing not that he is not not an accomplished general manager but his in terms of Trades and in terms of giant trades like his bark is a lot louder than his bite you know what I will say this about this particular situation with Danny age I understand him I don’t blame him it makes p perfect sense to me what it sounds like to me is he’s sitting there and he’s probably like I don’t really really have any plans on tradeing Lori marketing probably sign him because you can all because worst case scenario you can sign him and then still trade him at some point like it just because you sign him to a deal he’s young enough he’s talented enough if you feel like you got to reset the clock on your franchise or whatever you can always trade him then there’s no sense of urgency to trade him now we’ve got money we’ve got cap spay all this other stuff we can just sign him and deal with that moving forward but if somebody wants to give me something outrageous for Lori marketing sure what’s outrageous that Warriors offer that they talked about they said it was Moody kaminga pods no that’s what oh okay so that yeah that’s what he’s asking for yeah so like if if you want to ask it I’m sure I don’t know this but I’m asking for Keegan in all your picks if you want to give that to me then I’ll re-evaluate my stance on Lori but if it’s anything short of that honestly I don’t have to respond to you because it’s you know what it is you like if I’m if I’m if I’m um Danny a I don’t need to tell you no for you to know what it is if you have a trade proposal that doesn’t involve Keegan Murray or if I’m talking to Mike dun Ley if it don’t have kaminga and pods don’t even talk to me or if I’m talking to San Antonio I don’t know who that would be maybe Devon Vel and all your first round I don’t know obviously he’s not asking for wmy but if it’s not that he probably is he might be he might be because at the because at the end of day look I’ll do it straight up pop what come on man straight up he’s not really pressed to trade Lori like he’s he’s not this the team’s not necessarily going anywhere all of this noise around him oh hold on hold on let me please out the way no good come on Danny Ang can wait yeah no You Gotta Be You gotta be in front of the camera you gotta be over here you you need to be in front of the camera one because we we need you for the video but uh to we we have questions um now go ahead and pull the microphone a a little bit closer because this is real we need to have a discussion okay I’m here can you walk us through the process of your scoring in officiating from field day well those are two distinct questions where would you like me to start um let’s start with scoring okay walk us through how you scored the events on field day well and you know what if Damien’s team didn’t win that last one you would have yeah well look here’s the other thing about this stason I was putting all my eggs in the Kickball basket and that game just mysteriously left yeah it just mysteriously we we have theories as to why the KCK ball game was cancelled does that theory involve the fact that maybe based on the opening event of War which resulted into broken hands their um that maybe we didn’t think that this team could safely make it through a tournament that’s what we yeah that’s what we speculate okay okay when both HR admins you know are involved it’s not a good idea did anyone go back to the puzzle which was the worst event in history but not yes it oh it was your idea oh it was your idea the puzzles were adorable how would we know I I don’t I wouldn’t know because we couldn’t get it put together my puzzle was predominantly gray okay every brand has essentially the same amount of solid color true not true brands have some of our Brands including ours had words I had the end which just had the bubble the end which was a part of the logo that was kind of crazy I had ESPN 1320 so we knew how to get the sports leader at the bottom all red at the top you see that over there that that’s how we that’s how we kind bounc it up we didn’t win but everyone has their own challenges I would say that so the scoring was dependent on the event and so some were worth more than others in some event there was only one point like only the first place would get it and in some events everyone got points so it just it depended on the event and what we thought the value of the event was no that’s good that’s it’s it’s it’s her representative yeah like what I I asked for Stacy like you do you have to oversee Stacy oh you did the wise woman no you did good thank you Kimberly Kim your flowers on your desk look extraordinary are welcome back like I ain’t seen Kim in a month it’s probably because I Happ a week she had a week off but her presence is missed so that’s what happened did anyone think to call off tug ofar after two broken fingers in the first seven seconds we thought about it absolutely he thought let’s just yeah if there’s any injury ATT attorneys please don’t call um we thought about call Jen don’t call Stacy right so don’t worry we have um everyone working through workman’s comp and all good and we all future events including the barbecue I’m told will now require a waiver we’re having a barbecue we don’t even trust that our team can have a barbecue without an injury so now moving forward any team event is going to require so now we have to sign our life away when we go to so so we will have field day too though right a th% I enjoy field day yep and maybe it won’t be in July so that it could be outside that’s probably a lesson that we learned right it was a good thing we were inside but we couldn’t do water balloon toss there’s other things that we there’s other things we couldn’t do because of the fact that we had to move it inside so the egg on a spoon had to be it wasn’t even a real egg because we were inside or if we’re outside you know you know Jesse one egg on the spoon they came in congrats no I think what he’s saying is you didn’t reward his first crossed the fin line and came in um that was a group decision including Aaron and and Justine and Kim and the group decision was whoever walked over first can you imagine like the king scoring more points than the Warriors and the officials going well it’s subjective I celebrated that and they told me yeah you came in fourth pal I will admit that was not probably our finest hour that specific event it was just fine it kept us in running for being first I think we need a field day Rules Committee if you’re signing up to volunteer for that I’m sure our Employee Engagement love that well next time at least do a kickball home run der because that’s I was ready the plan was working perfectly we were one game behind the lead kickball was coming up and I was about to go off I was about to go off saw T hamstrings and everywhere well just laid out next year we be able to do it because we’ll have waivers so which means if you break a finger or tear a hamstring or blow ailles it’s your fault at your own risk now maybe now that we’ve learned maybe we need to have some training for before field day we got a we had a training camp before F I like that maybe it’s a good idea I like that you guys can put us through some reps or maybe some stretching probably would have been a good idea I’m not I didn’t know if I was the head of this whole thing well it was your idea so what was our idea wait what I just said it was a good idea who so now I’m making your idea who’s in charge of the grill at this barbecue that you just announced to the world not me the employee engagement committee is working on that oh I thought we were done after juneth all right okay thank you Stacy I’m so happy to help now we can now that you’re here we can work you into the to the video because we couldn’t find your original by Thursday next oh that was perfect the esteem no that was good that’s that’s that’s the still that was well done that was well done hey we really need to look within if they don’t trust us to play kickball and be healthy like come on like like Stacy give us a list and we’ll just be training for the next year how how did she’s literally saying no yeah you’re gonna sign a waiver no yeah like it’s a barbecue like hey in order to eat these ribs I need to sign this paper real quick yeah if you choke on this rib it’s your fault like it’s fine we’re not liable for this m man life and odyssey bro I love it here I love it here this best we really need a show the best part was and I’m not even sure she was aware of what was happening Aaron walked up behind in the in the mirror and was like he said get her out of there get her out bro Aaron walks in like what is going on right now he’s still patrolling around and he walks out he walks out he does one of those o things he’s going to come across what you G come across where he might have went into our office no they’re gonna they’re gonna meet they’re gonna meet over here there they are they’re meet they’re meeting they’re meeting behind Jesse now like he’s like what the I really do love [Laughter] working oh I love that aon’s gonna walk by looking here what the hell is going on also the announcement that we’re going to need a training camp for the next field day that’s awesome you imagine we get um people get cut from field day I need to know sorry Ken not not this year buddy Ken Ken Ken Ken’s been traded for cash considerations yeah Ken we need you to grab your playbook um Aon wants see oh hard knock odys the Edition hard get a picture of Abe at the door trying to swipe his key card like what’s going on here oh man I can’t wait man we need we we do we do need to hire a camera crew for the next field day yeah well poor I haven’t even got a chance to respond to him poor Ley Ley was supposed to be at uh the the Demar the classic on Saturday and as I’m driving in I’m like oh this this is g to work yeah because I have an inkling what’s going to happen I can get Le in the right spot I can have him like right you know and maybe 20 minutes before the text comes through I get a text and of course my phone’s in my hand and I’m jumping and it’s lazyy yeah and I open the text and it’s I’m thinking it’s hey dog I’m here what do you want me to do it’s like a there’s like a giant hole in his tire oh like his tire is like blown up somewhere like damn La not going to make the classic go look and I didn’t even have chance to respond to him because of everything else that was going on so lazy my man that was gonna be LA’s moment his video was gonna go viral all over place oh believe he gon put he was gonna put the Water tag at Ley on there and everything poor guy couldn’t even make it you know when Ley gets serious he starts calling himself Leland when we were when we were doing um what was the big event was it Soul Blum it was it was Soul Blum or was a night for lovers one of the two might have been it might have been a night for lovers where all of a sudden he wasn’t introducing himself as Ley anymore he was introducing himself to as Leland what who the hell is that even even my phone corrected it was like oh the phone contact is updated it’s it’s Leland and not Ley it’s like all right whatever you want well Ley we’ll figure something else out man maybe something happens Friday we’ll get him at uh we’ll get him at field day oh man I need to know like I need to know who’s on the employee engagement team because I need to know who’s in charge of the grill yeah that’s like just throw anyone on the grill can’t be Aon I thought the I thought the barbecue was cancelled I I didn’t get the email I don’t even know if I’m invited I thought the barbecue was canceled right after field day wait hold on like when is this barbecue 2 like is it 12 to 4 again like we back to that no it it was no no I know I know it’s the one that’s on like Saturday or something right where you bring it was canell it was canell okay I’m not going to be there well no one will be there because it was cancelled so whatever this barbecue that Stacy is talking about is not on our schedule G be resched make it during the week Monday from 12 to 4 Aon Erin eron’s gonna be on the grill I’m telling you that tribal Chief gonna be on the grill okay that’s gonna be the move just make hamburgers bro that’s all you need to do can’t mess that up I’m still working else I get on the grill I’m still working on it D does a great job on the gr I think I got like hamburgers hot dogs all that basic stuff down on the grill does a great job I’m I’m I keep it simple I killed the Fourth of July yeah I did well I yeah I did I was it I was basic it was like burgers and it was plant-based burgers and links but I did I did I had this idea for um prime rib um sandwiches not not prime rib um uh what ribeye and man I cooked those to Perfection yeah those those were fire doing his thing on the grill man doing this thing after what was what happened I cook for Dr Flo too the Dr Flo came over the weekend before Oh man got answer on who’s on the grill those little oh I don’t know about that but those little Banana Cup things I made those little banana pudding cups I made what was the uh that what what did you get you got grease on the on the cement when we came over like that so did you get it up so yeah you got a power washer cuz I I worked on a power washer this past week and it was crazy so I Ed know you’re right right okay you’re right no some people wow I explained what happened after you guys left I did have a power washer and it didn’t help so I started youtubing videos on how to get this grease off of my cement because I had moved what maybe like two weeks prior and I had forgot I told you I started the brisket I made for you guys at like two in the morning yeah that was crazy and I forgot to put the bucket that catches the the trip drip bucket yeah yeah I forgot to put it down and I’m about six hours in before I notice this big puddle of of Grease so I try to clean it up as I’m trying to clean it up it’s gets worse like I made it significantly worse start to like rub pretty much so after so I spent that whole I think it was a three-day weekend I spent that whole three-day weekend like watching YouTube videos of how to fix it and the one that worked was laundry detergent I used damn near an entire thing of laundry detergent i’ put it on the ground wet it a little bit scrub it repeat do it again and then you don’t know if it worked until it’s dry cuz you can’t you you can kind of tell but you can’t see until it’s dry and that was what worked the best laundry detergent GL we got it up Stephen Brown 54 143 not true he had it’s good point I think this is what happened DLo said Jeffrey just don’t know who Jeffrey is and that’s not you call him Jeff why don’t we talk about the Jeffs in your life pal hey you know I’m always down let’s talk oh man hey look how look how dark A-Rod is yeah he’s got some uh what what did he say the first time that happened he fell asleep tannning yeah maybe he did it again he did brother he is dark man he is dark a rod I like A- rod on Fox though he does a good job we’ll come back um we’ll talk I don’t know what truthfully More Kings basketball I’m yeah we’ll finish our our thoughts about Lor marketing is there anything else you missed last week that you want to talk about I don’t know I think you missed money in the bank too oh and you missed a raw well you might not have missed a raw but I did watch the money in the bank was that Ria yeah yeah I saw Ria come back that fire yeah that was that was well done it’s D and Casey here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 oh that’s the other thing we talked about we were we were trying to map out um if if DLo and KC Jesse everybody if we were uh when Smackdown comes to uh Golden One Center how we could be like Tyrese halberton and Jaylen Brunson and all that we’re trying to figure out who we would go out with like who we’d be associated with I said I’d go out with Solo in the bloodline Jesse I don’t think we can yeah Kevin because Bry is the I go with Kevin Owens Kevin Owens is dope I like him KO who’ you go out with but then we couldn’t even remember who was on Smackdown I I’ll go out with Ria Ria’s on Smackdown I don’t know is she I don’t care she is that day J on Smackdown Jaden Bianca on Smackdown I know that much um I lose track like what show was it raw that Nia called Bailey BBL baile I didn’t catch I didn’t catch that Bailey’s on SmackDown now you know what I watch is on Raw I thought you know what I watched um some of I think I had seen them all but uh I think it was Friday I was just like chilling and I put the network on and I put some of those Untold on or was it an Untold but I think it was Untold and then the um the one about Sasha and Bailey and Brooklyn came on I thought I caught reys watching that uh one time and I didn’t sit down and back watch I was at that show that was like at the the the May Young no the championship of that or something no uhuh that was the first takeover outside of their facility their full sale and they did it in Brooklyn as part of I think it was the first time they had done it was SummerSlam and it was the first time they had done like Saturday night NXT um Sunday night SummerSlam and then Monday Night Raw were all at the barlay center the only one I didn’t go to was SummerSlam I went to NXT and I went to raw and raw was the night so NXT was the night Sasha and and bayy had that match and I think Kevin Owens and Finn Balor were the main event in the latter match and Monday was the night The Dudley boys came back for the first time in however many years and sting appeared out of a box to challenge Seth Rollins or something yeah it was that reminds me I threw on the network this weekend too I was watching WrestleMania Sid Justice versus HK I can’t believe you guys used to buy in the Hulk back then he just comes out beating the hell out of Sid Justice or whatever the whole time like he’s the superhero whatever I’m watching like this is garbage trash he is a superer no he’s just out there like making s Justice look like an idiot in the main event s Justice wasn’t the sharpest there’s a there’s that raw there’s that raw where Brett pushes Vince down and says frustrated isn’t a goddamn word for it this is [ __ ] and like Sid comes down and and Brett starts yelling at Sid you know I’m the best there is the best there was and the best there ever will be and Sid says I don’t know [ __ ] crybaby isn’t there a problem we’ve talked about says like yeah you don’t I I don’t have half the brain you have or something like that you don’t I have half the brain was elevator didn’t go to the top floor was special I can’t believe how you just hated on on relax just I let’s see let’s see what this was about and all like to reat and all and yeah Hulk Hogan WrestleMania 8 just beating the hell out it said Justice or whatever match had even started well Sid like I said he wasn’t the sharpest knife in the tool tool chest or drawer whatever it was you have to be nine to appreciate what yeah I get I won’t lie he was over like Hulk Hogan like that whole Arena or whatever was just going insane CRA well so I I don’t remember what I was watching oh I know so the documentaries were just running one after the other after the other and there was one that came on where I was like this is incredible I was like have I watched this before you know what it was icons oh it was the Yokozuna episode of Icon where’s episode two at but but well two is there because there’s the Beth Phoenix episode and Phoenix Jo I didn’t even know that that was y there’s a Beth Phoenix episode and maybe a bu I feel like there’s three total and there was supposed to be a a Lex Luger one that just never came out but they just scra you know what’s funny about the so the Yoko the thing that stood out as I’m watching the Yoko one they showed the clip from WrestleMania 9 where Hogan beat Yokozuna in like nine seconds the pop from that crowd was insane and it’s it’s it’s it’s so it’s the um it’s the rock Roman thing right like when Rock talks about we thought we had like the crowd went crazy yeah the 20,000 people there right who witnessed it thought it was great the three million people who aren’t in the building thought it sucked right that was the thing with Hulk Hogan like you watched it and it was like oh my God the crowd went absolutely nuts yeah everybody else on planet Earth seemed to have hated that right but those 18 it would it probably would it was probably like 12,000 people Caesar right they thought it was incredible yeah what did what did The Rock he said something like a week ago that had him people like sounding like or something they had yeah they have the rock lying meme so it’s from I can’t remember it’s from the um that documentary it’s from like the Wrestlemania documentary that they put out on YouTube and essentially what The Rock is saying is is so I I don’t I’m not sure what part they’re pinpointing him lying though I I think I can guess because he’s pretty honest up you know he’s like we thought we had it like it was Roman in the Rock and we thought we had it and then we did the angle Cody left the crowd went crazy and then everyone got upset and he was talking about like do we ride it out and just stay the course or do we adjust and then he goes on to tell the story of this unique thing happened we put the power back in the fan hands and that’s where I think they’re like okay rock Rock’s giving off some Hogan Vibes yeah he is Vibes bro it was a little I said wait why don’t we have Cody finish his story instead he yeah he does have a little Hogan going on he does have a but they they kind of they were they kind of said Cody was gonna finish his story just not right then we thought we could get this match in and move the the Cody thing elsewhere the weirdest thing was that happened you know after the Royal Rumble so the end of January early February whenever that was in Triple H admits he was like we had Punk versus Seth and Rock versus Roman Cody was gonna be left out the hell was Cody Cody just run the Royal Rumble what was he gonna do yeah that was crazy and Hunter was like that was my job to figure out and no one knew I don’t even I don’t think they ever got to the point of creating a plan for him because they Punk they deviated so quickly Punk got hurt elbow or his shoulder just his tricep yeah just ripped that night um shout out to them though for for pivoting is that you think that’s um especially something that high-profile like you got rock Roman ready to go it’s not do you think Vince would have pivoted um I don’t think he would have well he did at 30 with Brian because the plan very much was Batista versus Randy Orton that was the main event and I don’t know if it was Hunter I don’t know who it was but they’re like this this is death we can’t do this so he did um but it’s impossible to know if he would have again like I I I think there’s there’s yeah I don’t know I have no idea I got to say though WrestleMania in Vegas next year is going to be an all- I feel like be Rock Roman CM Punk be there CM Punk will yeah CM Punk will get his main event yeah C CM Punk beats Cody um I think it depends because we’re we’re in August so you’re you’re starting you’re starting so money in the bank reignited a couple of things with Seth so you’re you’re starting to flirt with you’re not in WrestleMania territory yet but you can see it and it and you’ve got this situation with Drew that you have to in yeah and you can’t killing it so you so if we get we’re going to get Seth uh we’re gonna get Punk versus Drew as soon as Punk can go right so if we get Punk versus Drew then Punk versus Seth we’re probably getting a triple threat match at WrestleMania I think I think they should continue to write out Punk versus Drew because that’s that’s been phenomenal Drew is Drew has inserted himself into this situation like I thought he was done I didn’t want to see no more from D but he he’s killing it I think you revisit uh Seth and Cody Seth and Cody and then you’ve got this Blood light thing you got to work out with solo Rock and Roman I think that’s what’s gonna happen at some point during WrestleMania but I think Cody and Seth could could get something popping in between that because I triple threat it could happen it’s for sure could happen but I think I don’t know if you wna I think it all depends put a triple threat because because what’s the angle with Seth and Drew do they have an angle like well last year’s WrestleMania yeah or this you know this this WrestleMania that we just had you have that we putting the belt back on Cena too is he going for 17 because he’s coming back for that that that that’s the after Cody or whatever Cena um Charlotte Cena here like come on we don’t to come back do so so I I was I think this was during the commercial break where I was telling the story about the Brooklyn NXT summer that SummerSlam so that was that was 2015 he was going for title number he was going for the the 17 or whatever number it is yeah that night and he still hasn’t gotten it it’s been nine years it’s been nine years since CM Punk has had the championship I mean not CM Punk uh John Cena let’s just chalk it up man he Tiger Woods man gonna happen yes you get that last master that last Master not gonna happen with tiger it’s not gonna happen with Cena this just tiger get no he a’t he didn’t pass Jack pass Jack I’m talking wrestling though we we can change it here done get punk that last one just so we can take Ric Flair out of this stupid that’s what I’m saying too like we need to get Rick out of there that’s what it’s really I’m I’m done with Rick being in this conversation like yeah like maybe whoever like fast track someone else get Rick out of here the other thing about that is we can get him out of the paint easy why are we counting his ABA stats yeah why are we counting his AB stats here in the WWE on man it is funny how WWE like do they count does he have like a TNA title that counts too just killing his ABA stats get this guy out of here get him out we want to know what his title looking like after the merger I do love that Drew McIntyre won money in the bank and lost it same night loser that’s awesome that was phenomenal that is that was just so so great and then the Seth coming in as the ref was just that was great hey um and we can get back to sports hold on one second Titus um I don’t want to make a grand Proclamation but in the last month I think raw is out outperformed Smackdown and SmackDown still been good RA been killing the man the Ria uh rear return was good that that oh man that they’ve been killing it with that they’ve been killing it with that ready for that Netflix move I think that’s why they’re starting to turn it up they’re starting to make that the a show bit maybe so yeah Robin killing it they had an they had something else that have oh well the the um the uh the Wyatts have been on Raw yeah between those two alone they’ve been killing it yeah they’ve left a lot when they shot Chad just to be clear that is not what happened we didn’t know for a week that is we he looked Chad Gable looked better than people who were actually shot and he just showed up to wrestle the next week he’s just like no it’s cool did they ever explain what happened to him like why there appeared they explained he was not he was not what we thought that was crazy was that were we just guilty oh it looked like he was shot in the head didn’t they could have just beat him up they didn’t they have to do that well you didn’t have to put blood right here and have his head like tilted like you could have what conclusion were we supposed to draw and the best part about that is they still got cheered like that was great no it appears Chad Gable’s dead the whes are just running wild around raw nobody’s giving a damn it appears Chad Gable is dead oh this is awesome everybody cheer put your lighters up go ahead put your lighters up let’s let’s go this is great there’s nothing like wrestling man absolutely nothing well almost nothing let’s get Titus in here 9169 one half one half of the real brothers of Sacramento let’s go man what’s up with y’all I in the process of me being on hold my vibe off because I just had to break up a fight at one of them free phone little sit but look I would look let me just get this off and let me see what y’ got me I want to seg B I’m glad dowlo back off the top because I know he gonna make y’all respect the segment being that that that that 350 stick slot disrespect that was Jessie I that I didn’t say that no no your buddy did we Ain G to stay his name though they ask calling the but but D back though so we good we good okay what’s up to Luis though but anyway now what the hell did Javier do because I remember he did something and I don’t want to do what he did just look don’t all right well look look I’m I’mma tell you don’t mock the host and that that’s all you got to do just just say what you gotta say you could you we we let everybody get their point across just don’t mock the host just say what you you can you can make fun of me just don’t disrespect me there is that there ‘s that yeah’s that yeah okay okay that’s what happened all right but no but y’all gotta respect the segment though but now this what I wanted to say though quck baby and Harrison Barnes he’s gone he’s a bum come on Titus come on Titus I’m just serious tell the Insiders quit trying to insert herder into the starting lineup all of a sudden let’s stop doing this we gonna mess up the locker room y’all we gonna have turmoil in there we G to have a bum thinking he’s supposed to start he’s not a bum for position let’s go with the best five now I respect them on the over on the 45 and a half we definitely gonna get that talk about and I just have I had one last question hey when Sacramento come out here is they gon is they gon I mean when the A’s come out here is they gonna do Sacramento or no is it still gonna be Oakland or what to be honest with you Titus I don’t think anybody knows we talked a little bit about this uh with Jake here on when was Jake Jake was here on Friday and we basically the whole thing was like they’re still working things out with the presentation with the field with all this other stuff nothing’s official yet they’re still working through stuff so I think initially they said they were just going to be called the A’s they’re just gonna be called there’s no City no Oakland A’s of Sacramento nothing just the A’s I’ve seen I don’t know I don’t know if they’re going to go through with that if they’re going to be Las Vegas or or whatever so Titus to that point we don’t know yet that’s just going to look Wild on the schedule uh the New York Yankees at the a at the a well the Angels where they the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim at one point yeah they were out of control for that one that was just stupid they still are actually they still are the Lost Angeles Angel the Oakland A’s of Sacramento by way of Vegas I like that put it on the shirt put it on a shirt I can’t have that dude on the TV man so to switch the channel not have that old dude on the TV um also man we are not call us calling Harrison Barnes a bum that’s that’s that’s that’s crazy talking Kevin her is not a bum either do do you like real quick with the Harrison I think Kyle mentioned it he might have mentioned it when you were on the show but I thought he mentioned it on Monday we talked about it a little bit more and I like this idea not that Harrison is a bum at all that’s not what we’re saying but do you think the Kings outgrew Harrison’s role like Harrison was the leader in the locker room you know the the senator all this other stuff you can kind of look past the fact that he was just like hit or miss uh on the court because he was one of those guys that you look to for leadership and now we’re at a point where Deen’s been in the league seven eight years he’s 25 26 years old so bonus is older now too and now it’s not just about establishing your your organization as something that’s serious now it’s we trying to climb and win games and no disrespect to Harrison but did the Kings kind of outgrow the fact that they could look past they need to upgrade at that at that spot I hadn’t thought about it like that but yeah sure um I I always wonder though like did did we put him in that role or was he actually in that role I think he was just I think he he earned that role just because of the level of respect and reverence people have for Harrison barns like they they respect yeah that’s a part of it but as you like laid out to like he you know to paraphrase CM Punk and aew he worked with a bunch of effing children too and like he had to be the he had to be the the Steady Hand in that locker room where you you you would kind of look at this team and you are like de and you know we just laugh sometimes looking back at like de like Dar looked like a child when he got here all right and you you got this Marvin and Harry and you got all these different things going on then you got Harrison well you know Harrison is steady there was that actually his role or is that what we perceived his role to be well did we joke that they would always throw Harrison out there or was it like like really like always throw har no that happened same loses by 60 Here Comes Harrison Barnes yeah yeah they throw Harrison out there and I don’t know if he asked for that role I don’t know if I don’t he’s made remarks in the past that made it clear he did not ask for that right right and I don’t even know if it was like a defin like people like we always lean back on Harrison it just it was what it was right like you needed a a tough loss let’s go get Harrison because we know Harrison’s going to be professional he know he’s he he’s going to you know answer accordingly or do whatever the case may be and it’s something that I feel like he just kind of fell into because of the the human being that he is and at this point now even though we you know had the little moment last year for a couple weeks where we didn’t whatever happened happened couple months it was a shoot 41 games yeah well where was it’s like all right well now we’re kind of past that dear’s going to step up Mink’s going to step up D rozen’s here now you know he’ll step up sabonis if you ask him he’ll talk all this other stuff and I think that’s Keegan is is probably growing up a little bit to the point where you know you may hear a little bit more from him um where I I don’t want to make it like Harrison was like just a nothing and that’s the only reason he was around but his inconsistency with how he played you kind of put up with it because like you kind of need this guy here around now as much as we like them and we want them to be around we can’t we can’t wait anymore we have to upgrade from this position and I think that’s kind of what what happened yeah I think it it’s uh I think we over complicate things sometimes when we look at this and what you just said the last thing you just said is really what it all boils down to they had the ability to upgrade their roster and you have to make things with cont tracks work that’s what happened MH um and that’s why San Antonio was so important to this process like San Antonio had room to take Harrison barnes’s contract not just for this year but for for for the years ahead and Sacramento maybe had the had to sweeten that deal because maybe it’s not exactly what San Antonio was looking for but they know that there’s they have room like it didn’t handcuff San Antonio from doing anything moving forward they knew that they could do it um but I really do like I I I I like the idea of I I think it’s a strong thought that the that the Kings kind of outgrew what he offered um and that’s fun conversation when you’re analyzing trades and signings and movement within an organization but really in its simplest form it’s what you said at the end they they needed to upgrade and we always always knew you know the second he signed that deal last year Harrison was probably going to be a piece which is by the way is a testament to Harrison Barnes he’s going to be a piece that’s used to upgrade this roster um I think Kevin herder could be a piece that maybe upgrades the roster in the sense that they find someone in more more of a position of need than herder might be but I asked this at the end of the regular season and wonder if it’s you know Harrison uh excuse me herder Kevin herder he’s coming off an injury and you know shooting arm or not he is coming off an injury and I think there’s a little bit of okay let’s wait and see I I will because Kevin’s a good shooter like is is is you know frustrating moments that there have been last year like Kevin hder is a good shooter you got to respect him if you’re on other you’re not just going to leave him open and let him cooking like he there’s a certain level of gravity that he brings out to space on the floor and things of that nature um I I will say this with Titus um I I wouldn’t say it the way he said it but I do agree that I don’t I’m not interested in Kevin herder starting now I I didn’t hear The Insider say it um I think I caught a little bit of them saying that but I didn’t hear it but on Friday Frank red was on here talking about if her is on the squad you may have to like you have to think about starting him at the two guard and his thought was he’s an emotional dude if you’re G to have him and you feel like you’re G to try to use him you don’t want to lose him you may you may lose him mentally if you just have him on the bench so give him the first 10 12 games of the season to see if he can find his Groove and see what it looks like with him starting at the two guard spot I disagreed with it but I I understand the logic I disagree with that too yeah I I wouldn’t I no you can’t do that and not not that’s a that’s a year one dearn in his third year that’s that type of move like Hey we’re trying to figure this thing out no Kevin this is that but what it boils down to is what do you think the best role for Kevin herder is and and when I say you Mike Brown this organization what’s the best role for Kevin herder well we think the best move is we’re going to start this will be a discussion we’re gonna start Malik monk right and we’re gonna figure out how to work Keon in here we believe Kevin herder can supply a lot of offense Off the Bench great that’s his role if that is what you see him being most successful at thus helping the Kings be most successful that’s what you have to do and the difference between the Kings and some other organizations and I feel like Kevin has to look at it this way if he’s on this team when the season starts is Malik just did it Malik did it for two years he came off the bench and he was everything we needed Off the Bench now we need him in the starting lineup and we’re going to figure out a way to work Keon we have a way I’m tell you we have a way to work Keon into this you’re a part of it you’re not going to be dnpd you’re going to play Keon’s going to play and we believe this is going to you’re going to be that instant offense role that Malik was last year and you you’re you’re still going to play a lot with dear you’re still going to play a lot with dear you’re still going to play a lot with with domont you lay all of that stuff out and there’s enough evidence in Mike Brown’s two years to show that guys off the bench can play and Kevin’s not going to be he’s not javelle McGee with all due respect he’s not Alex Lynn he’s not guys that are going to go weeks and Kobe Jones Chris dorte he’s not guys that are gonna go weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks weeks without playing he’s going to play he’s going to play every night you it just has to be conveyed is you have a new role on this team and that’s where you’ve got to get him to buy into that I’m not sure he’s at a position where he’s and so that’s that’s where if you can’t then then you then you don’t play because we can’t look if you look you’re not all in it’s fine we’ll sit you in that 14th you know 15th spot on the bench and I don’t mean that to be like a jerk I just mean we need to win games right we can’t miss the playoffs Keon’s in Malik is in Demar signed here for God’s sakes everybody on this roster is all in if you’re not it’s all right we’ll try to figure something out but please understand I can’t play you if you don’t see this working I can’t play you do you think that all this needs to take place like now yep and if you don’t figure that like if you don’t come to that understanding now that all right we need to make sure this doesn’t linger to training camp and you gota we got to figure out something else I think I think herder I think herder um should like look at a situation where if you’re not a starter being a contributor any way you can because it’s only going to help your you with this team it’s G to help the team it’s gonna help your stock as an NBA player and all this other stuff I don’t think anything else is really going to help you out we’ll come back we could talk more about that you said Frank red that reminds me um I had a a a short interaction with Frank on on social media and it was about Devin Carter I think we can clear up a couple of things regarding Devin Carter and his injury and really what the Sacramento Kings knew and didn’t know um going into that announcement that was made last week so we’ll have that up ahead for you steo and Casey brought to you by Sky River Casino here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 ste3 round stepen brown stop fighting with that guy come on you know better don’t worry about this at uh as well there 13th round with your main man Kenny kway uh shout out to my main man Donnie dope ones even though he don’t like that nickname The Dope ones is killing it right now go check him out over there shout out to Jordan brand big up to my people over there you already know the Vibes in this past Saturday in Philadelphia Pennsylvania Jon boots inis came back home they said it was the first fight ever in the Wells Fargo Center Wells Fargo have been around for a long long time like almost 20 plus years at this point and uh the first fight ever J Bo senis had a really nice crowd looked like about 14 15,000 people there um that packed out the Wells Fargo Center to see him with a fifth round stoppage of David adinan I can’t always mess up his name but you already know the Vibes you already know who he is um in a fight that was entertaining I mean boots was was really like going to work they said they thought uh he broke David’s jaw at one point the corner that’s one of the reasons why they stopped it after a knockdown in the fifth round um but he was he was he was handling business offensively I see a lot of people after the fight though we talking about the fact that he was getting touched up a little bit uh boots was and and you know had concern for that and he was he was he was like he he was he was taking some of the blows as well um but I looked at that as a situation where he felt the power uh of David a will go there and he was like he can’t hurt me so I’m GNA much like I always say with like a tank Davis I’m gonna take whatever shots I need to take to make sure that I get mine off I’m G stand in the pocket I’m not gonna you know give a combination and bounce outside I’m gonna look for an opportunity to put this thing away and that’s what he did in the fifth round you know was it was a stoppage um but if he would have went out for the sixth round he probably would have knocked him out cold so I didn’t have any problem with his performance like I said it was a little bit of the anti Shakur Stevenson type performance he was there to be hit standing in the pocket uh willing to let his hands fly um for an opportunity for an entertaining fight and that’s what happened there’s a lot of people who talked about now you know boots in us or whatever the case may be I think he’s ready for that that fight you know for for it to be a real fight I’m not saying that he would beat boot or bud I don’t know if he will or not but I think he has an opportunity but more importantly if you look at 147 which was once about two three years ago the glamour division of boxing it’s naked right now it’s naked in these streets so I think eventually you move up to 154 that’s where bud is going to be and what I think could be a Trilogy verel Ortiz is up there as well so get a couple belts to 147 if from boots then get ready to make that move to 154 and that’s where you going have of big fights that’s 13th round Dr David sure Shakur Shakur first of all I saw some some footage of Shakur did well that’s I saw some footage of Shakur talking to Bud Bud was trying to tell him you know some things to be effective Shakur don’t listen to nobody that’s the problem that’s the problem Shakur just gonna go around think he got all the answers all the time you don’t get knocked out by uh by Tank or Devon or or uh AA needs to listen to c ma well those dud you too J Prince they they tell these boys the real for sure those dudes have been cracking me up the last couple weeks heak come over here I’ll slap the fire out of here oh man oh that c man 90% Ginger damn Dames well Ramsay he needs to get the belt get get let him get some belts at at 147 first let him get about two or three and then he can move up how does this off affect Canelo some another person he won’t fight Canelo uh Canelo probably only got about two years left great to be back here with my man KC with Jesse great to be back with the chatty house brought to you by Matthews mattress head over to Matthews mattress.com finding one of the 10 locations nearest you um and know that if you grab a mattress that’s in stock today it will be in your bedroom tonight you’ll be sleeping on that brand new mattress they got free same day delivery let them know no matter what location you go to it doesn’t matter which one let them know you’re part of the chatty house that will go a very long way yeah it’s good look a very very long way did you um well this is going to sound stupid because we talked about this before the show and this is some of our ksfm content I know you haven’t gotten a chance to listen to the entire Eminem death of Slim Shady album I strongly encourage you to it’s really really good and the little intricacy in the album I thought it was really interesting I actually got excited for the album for the first time on Thursday when mem tweeted or posted or whatever about listening to the album the way it was created and you know that’s kind of a rule of mine when I first hear an album is I listen to it from beginning to end I don’t skip I don’t skim I just hit play and let it ride especially with the artist the caliber of Eminem right but I thought it was really interesting that he posted that and that got me really excited for what the album uh was going to be I’m admittedly not a fan of that Slim Shady character I’m not a fan of that voice and I’m not a fan of most of those records that have that Cadence and that that character attached to it this album for what he was trying to accomplish was brilliant I thought the Recovery album The Recovery album is is phenomenal MH this is up there though with like the Marshall mats LP like it’s not it doesn’t have I am on it doesn’t have stand on it but the complete body of work and the little tiny details he put in it I thought were amazing and listening to it the first time he gets to that song I think it’s called temporary it’s the one everyone was talking about on social media because it has you know like uh tapes of Haley when she was like six years old or something in it and he’s talking to her from the perspective of he just he just died and this is his message to her and it’s a it’s a really emotional record it’s it’s but it’s it’s phenomenal and you kind of feel like okay that’s it’s it’s it’s not the last song that’s a weird spot for this so he hits that record there’s like three tracks after I think there’s three songs and a uh a skit I didn’t realize till this morning how important that skit was so the record the the concept of the record ends with that song and then he there’s a there’s the track with um big sea and baby Tron that that’s after temporary there’s another song it’s incredible right song is fire there’s so there’s two songs where it’s it’s it’s m or Marshall or however you want to phrase it it’s not Slim Shady and then I heard the skit for a second time today and I realized now this this is going to go over some people’s head the skit is Tony Clifton Tony Clifton is a character that Andy Kaufman played everybody knew it was Andy Kaufman but when Andy died Tony Clifton kept making appearances and Tony Clifton has this like he’s like just this gross like he’s a stereotypical like Vegas comedian with a just yeah take my wife it’s like that silly sound to it yeah when he does that guess who’s back interlude he’s saying things that Marshall mats would that uh Slim Shady would say with a Tony Clifton Cadence and that’s how he brings in the final song with jelly roll and it didn’t dawn on me until I heard it a second time this morning how phenomenal that was because he died with the temporary song then he did two songs as Eminem acknowledging that he’s back with the Tony Clifton skit and then the final track with jelly roll which is another phenomenal just it’s an incredible song that jelly roll plays a a terrific role in he’s rapping from the perspective of he’s gone and he’s it’s it is not to overdo it it is a brilliant piece of art it’s really good like and I I can’t say I was like really hyped for the album I was curious he for part of the punt he murdered it like it was so good and I I I I definitely got to check it out I mean I was telling you earlier like when when you talk about um critiquing a album or did you like it or whatever the case may be I mean Eminem Like I said one of the greatest people to ever rap to ever put words together I’m biased um towards guys like him towards Kendrick Jay you know all these guys cuz I’m just never going to be like oh that was whack like because I I just think they’re too good at what they to me they never ever putting out anything low quality so I expect um a high quality piece of art piece of music from Eminem Like I said I want to go back and listen to to the whole album now um but I I heard a handful of songs and he’s rapping crazy you know that the beats are on point like it’s just like I said I’m just a bad critic I’m also I’m also like a person that just you just got to sit with the music a little bit over time or whatever the case may be because there may be things that I look back and say you know I like this but then I like I haven’t really been moved to try to listen to it again and I don’t know how long you know what I mean so that’s just just let it sit for a little while but I definitely want to uh check out the whole album it’s it’s Eminem that’s I was thinking about that this morning because I I I wanted to to make this a part of our ksfm show and it it’s like listening to this album some some albums are like watching a TV show you could check in like I could watch any episode of the office and be fine it doesn’t matter I could watch any episode of you know it’s been po popping up on like Instagram is it The Cosby Show The Cosby Show needs to be on TV Cosby Show’s do nothing to nobody you hear me hear me out you guys understand what I’m saying that is a phenomenal show it’s so good it actually I came across the the clip uh there was a uh an interaction between Claire and Vanessa that was just it was it made me go look it was like where is it did he write the show to Bill Cosby some of them a lot of them I just I mean yeah like I said we we can all be adults here like it’s just it’s just it’s perfectly written the the comedic time even the cutaways like when somebody does something and they cut to the person who’s not saying anything like usually it’s it’s Cosby they cut to him it’s just I’ve watched a c i saw another one where it was I can’t it was Claire and um the uh the son-in-law Alvin Alvin yeah Alin and you know Alvin was always putting his foot in his mouth and she goes can can I get you guys something to drink and he goes you’re you’re going to get us something to drink and she goes yes well why wouldn’t I well you just don’t strike me as someone who would do that strike me as someone who would do what and it’s and and again like I understand but Dr huxel sits down and he starts he starts doing the the the side reactions are always perfect man all while Alvin is burying himself it’s like and I I legit started searching I was like this has to be somewhere I should be I could buy it somewhere you can’t man they they perfected the the side reaction like it’s just they just did it perfect but to your point though like you could check in and watch it whenever right and understand it this album feels like a movie like popping in it’s not gonna have the full experience um I always looked at ready to die as a movie right but I can appreciate big papa or juicy I can listen to that singular I don’t know as you were talking about sitting with an album and time will tell if I can just pop in and hear like Renaissance is the first song on the album and it sets the tone for the entire album what he’s rapping about in Renaissance is so important to the way that the rest of the album plays out because he even has a line in there about the Kendrick album was incredible but it didn’t have any bangers any he talks about how hip-hop fans don’t even love hip-hop anymore they just complain they just complain they look to critique and hate what artists put out and then you have a crop of young artists coming along who kind of revamped the sound a little bit and then all of the old guys just hate on it and no one truly appreciates hip-hop anymore that is the whole first album or the whole first song of the album and then it lays out an album that I I I read run review on hipop DX where I just read it was like I don’t know if this is a child that wrote this or not but he clearly didn’t understand the concept of the album he didn’t he’s oh it was just all for shock value yes on guilty conscience too instead of Eminem and Dr Dre or Slim Shady and Dr Dre it’s Slim Shady and Marshall mats and he’s literally saying that to him why did you stop saying this about Christopher Reeves because he’s dead and it’s in bad taste and it’s like this inner argument between the two in which every critique I’ve read about the album is in that singular song and I just walked away like you hoes don’t even listen he’s you are exactly what he was talking about in Renaissance now to be fair maybe people just don’t want to hear that it doesn’t mean like it’s whack or they don’t understand maybe they just don’t want to hear it it’s okay if you don’t want to hear it but don’t say he’s uh doing something for shock value when he’s stating the reason he’s killing off the character is because the shock value wasn’t there anymore that’s that’s that’s that’s how I looked at particularly guilty conscience too because that’s another important song to The I I thought about I thought about you yesterday because um with without me was on I think uh I don’t know why I heard it but I heard it and I didn’t really like that song when it came out I don’t really like it now and you’ve talked about how you don’t like it and I compared it to um my name is and I I don’t want to you said you didn’t really like my name is either my name is is phenomenal it is it is I appreciate the record I just don’t like it yeah like I don’t play it cuz I don’t I understand why you don’t like without me I don’t like without me either like I don’t like the song but my name is the just just my name is the introduction to him on the scene and how and this you talk about setting the tone it set the tone pretty much for his career like you gonna get Eminem saying whatever rapping a certain way I just because I I end up listening to my name is after that song because I thought about you know that Slim Shady character I was like no I love I love my name is yeah I it’s one of those things where I appreciate what the record is and the impact that it had and how important it is you talk about telling stories how important that song is to telling his story I just don’t like the song I I don’t like that character Slim Shady is without me and then what’s the other song he had then you have another Slim Shady like song it’s uh he’s got a million of them just Los it is a Slim Shady record um uh The Real Slim Shady a little mix of both those are those are like TRL Eminem records where he’s like a TRL monster yeah like just a little bad kid pretty much yeah pretty much I’m I’m G definitely uh I’m G check out I might check out the album as I’m up all night playing NCAA football well there you go there you go I think you’ll en enoy it I I really do I think I think you’ll like the I know I will it’s it’s it’s himo good you mentioned uh mentioned Frank red and uh I had a a brief exchange with Frank after news of Devin Carter’s surgery broke and that’s another one kind of had that one mhm um um and so that’s why when Shams tweeted I was like well it’s out there we’ve already heard the sixth to eth month timeline we we had heard that we’ really heard that from jump we knew something was wrong um and Monty had talked a little bit they knew there was an injur they had publicly talked about the injury um they just didn’t talk about to what extent but Frank and someone else were having I I don’t know if Frank tagged me and then someone responded to or not not tagged me I think Frank might have responded to that that six to eight Monon post that I put up and then someone responded to Frank and that was kind of the point where I was like okay let me chime in here because the thought was well why didn’t the Kings know about this the Kings did know like the Kings knew he was injured I I don’t I don’t want to I don’t think I’m overstating this I think everybody knew everybody they that point of the reason why he went from top five to 13 like that’s got a lot to do with I don’t I don’t know what he’s discussed on The Insider so I don’t want to put too much like James had this a a while ago from way outside Sacramento and when he brought it to me I took it somewhere else we got it like triple confirmed it’s like all right maybe maybe the maybe the evaluation was wrong because the Kings hadn’t announced anything and then of course the the Shams tweet goes out it was like well I think this timeline we got was spot on and then the Kings announced the timeline that we had was spot on and but the point was they knew they knew when they drafted him and then it caused me there was something Monty said in his press conference that I think was that night it stood out to me but I didn’t think anything of it in the moment but I thought a lot more about it that day was he was like you don’t draft for right now you draft for the future when you when you take the best player available you draft a guy that you think is going to be able to help your franchise moving forward and I think a lot of us hear that and you think yeah they’re they’re drafting a guy that they believe is going to work for them in the long term no he meant right now I’m not drafting this guy for right now because he’s going to have shoulder surgery uh but he’ll be ready for us hopefully uh later on in the year but we’ve learned obviously now that he’s going to be out for um at least until the start of the calendar year yeah and and you know he still may help out this year you know what I mean i’ I’ve laid out the timeline potentially um like a almost like a a trade deadline acquisition you know around that time where you know he gets to play I don’t know if we’ll see the true Devin Carter this season because you know it’s just a wonky start to his NBA career not even really getting an offseason to work on stuff yeah he doesn’t get his NBA legs under him at all right right so you know we I don’t think we’ll see everything that he has to offer until probably year or two but he can still you know Ste some minutes you know with uh late in the season and things of that nature I um I I I look at this situation with Monty drafting him at 13 and I understand it while at the time I wanted him to NE to make a move I wanted kosma and some of the other people we heard I understand it in the aspect of I don’t know if there’s anybody in this draft that’s going to help that was going to help you this year I think there there are a bunch of projects and there are a bunch of guys who weren’t going to come in I shouldn’t say help you but like drastically impact what you’re doing because I didn’t think there were any starters in there D connect might have been the closest might have been the closest and he might be able to do something but other than that all these guys are project so why not like don’t be scared off by Devin Carter because he’s just one in a long line of guys who I I think are projects and wouldn’t be drastically impacting your roster this season and knowing the way that the roster was shaking out I mean you had already signed Malik at that point um you had your eye on D rozen like I think you’re I don’t know that I don’t know that there was a starter for this group out there uh especially at 13 not even Dalton but that could have I mean I don’t know where he I don’t even know where he would start yeah maybe at the three maybe maybe he been coming off the bench I don’t know yeah well you do it’s it’s dear and I mean so now you got Malik and Keon coming off the bench like that’s a tough that’s that’s tough but maybe you’re right do now that we’re um dust is kind of settled with a demard de R rozan deal done I think before you know we all left and before the deal went down I was I was pretty convinced that while it wasn’t like hey all these deals are done choose which one you wna you want to go with Monty I did believe even on draft night he know I’m getting a deal done like there are Frameworks and there are places that I can go to to get a deal done that I can I can do necessarily what I want to do on this draft like I can get a Devin Carter who we know he has a bad shoulder he might not help us that much this year but that I can do that because I’ve got to trade in place do you think that’s accurate now looking back um yes and no I think they had something draft that I’ve never been able to get an answer I feel like they had a trade close to the Finish Line on draft day and I do think it was for Kyle kozma and I don’t know what changed that I don’t know if Washington got thirsty I don’t know if Devin Carter fell and they liked it or if none of this is true and they didn’t have a trade lined up there was so much noise around a trade on draft day like in front of the scenes and behind the scenes and it’s not like just make believe chat like there was noise that for it just to not go anywhere I thought was I thought something happened um as far as the other trades I think they were all in on Lori marinin and I think Brandon Ingram is a figment of our imagination I think we see Brandon Ingram as a fit we see Brandon Ingram’s contract status we know how the league works and we think think there’s something there in Sacramento not discounting what Shan Cunningham wrote at all Sean Cunningham said there was that that the kings were had interest in Brandon Ingram I believe that to be true but I believe that interest was twofold and I think everything that the kings were trying to do was leading back to the Lori Markin and deal so you think that was that was number one on their on their list if you just had to guess like that was what they were trying to do first yes and honestly I mean I think marinan was number one I honestly think Demar was number two and I don’t know where kzz is on that deal or on that that list but I think Brandon Ingram’s a lot lower than we think and there’s probably multiple reasons for it but I think Ingram is a lot lower on a a fictitious wish list than we think there’s um or originally thought I should say there’s there’s something that that I mentioned um throughout the week last week uh when it comes to Demar de rozan and yeah his press conference and you know there was just there’s just shout out to Demar for the hoodie and the the the vest it was the hottest day of the year Big Ups to him I mean but when you’re rich like AR and DLo you don’t have to step outside D’Angelo Russell no Damen barley again Google a don’t play bro it’s it’s right here I could share the screen Kyle looked it up right here listen to this guy man don’t listen to all right don’t no I mean those who are watching can see it I’m trying to help you out pal to be honest like I said I got the text messages bro I got the text message no you don’t you that’s not even that’s not even a shirt that I have and that’s not it’s not even necessarily where I got it from button up this $950 do you see me wearing that do you see me wearing that no when you say that’s not necessarily where I got it from talking about the website you know that we just are safe to assume you got it from the owner or something that’s not true everyone else gets it from the website it’s not true that’s not true just don’t listen to this guy anyway Demar D Ro there Kenny Shir right there 10,000 that’s great that’s it’s a nice shirt though like what they bring to the table I really apparently I do I like they bring to the table um but there was something out that I just I keep thinking about when I think about the kings in dear R Roa and I want to know what you got to say about it okay uh that is a tease folks uh we will find out what uh Kenny is talking about when DLo and Casey return here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 I’m this is crazy baseball looks like they’re playing at airport Lally these are grown men that’s all the T no it’s that time of year what you I swear this juice is like 90% Ginger God damn favorite song on M’s album uh I’d have to look at the names of them let me take a quick peek I was listening to Michael Jackson all weekend man let’s see oh well you know what I because as I I like guilty conscience too because I like the the dichotomy of slim and Marshall mats but I think the records I like the most are the two after temporary bad one which is you know Eminem so to speak and Toby the one with the the single that dropped a couple Fridays ago um I actually like the song with jelly roll too I think both of those are really really dope I actually like the one with jelly roll a little bit more than um Skyler gray the temporary because that’s a tough listen it’s sad um this is such a good album though he man I can’t sing the Praises of this album enough it’s really good really really good and I think part of it is I’m so happy I figured out that skit when I like it was just the biggest light bulb in the world going off in my head when I was listening to it this morning cuz I did not catch it the first time around um uh did you listen to Common yet I didn’t uh I actually pulled that up last night and just didn’t didn’t haveit play on it Michigan appreciate you bro man thank you very very happy to be back very happy to be back the oranges are right over here Jess right over here I’m trying to get through this man shoot look it’s see even lighter it’s so gingery just chug the rest of it oh man Michigan I got something I think you’ll like I got a um I got a plunge I put it in my backyard but I got a cold tub it’s so dope I did eight minutes this morning my temperature dropped like 30° it I it was a little too much cuz I was like shivering for 30 minutes but oh I L I love cold therapy John po what it do baby Big John poles n John it’s called a um it’s called a plunge it’s uh made by uh my man Ryan in in in Sacramento that’s why I went with them because it’s a Sacramento based one and man that’s dope nothing wrong with that Wheezy uh Victor it was enough all right Ben chill out uh y’all need to leave Michigan and his leave Michigan alone and his what leave Michigan alone what the hell is going on with Michigan what I walk into me and Michigan we you know talk about our love of cold therapy and you know somehow guys like Drew down and and and Ben’s L bro always somehow managed to work Five Guys guys into the conversation okay when to get back to that thought you had KC just before the break but want to talk to my man TC 91699 1320 TC what’s happening baby yes sir hey just tapping in with the homie dowlo man how was your trip brother it was good man I I I enjoyed it hated being away from you guys man but um enjoyed the time away very happy to be back yeah one love man I sent Kenny a text man I meant to send that same one to you man you understand that’s how I truly feel about you dudes man I appreciate y’all bro for sure didn’t even relay the message man this instead he’s reading fictitious text messages that aren’t even real A real one I got here hey you know how many times I heard from KY while I was on break how many two none two times none two times the two times I text you and that’s the response that I got hear from this dude once I figured you were tired of hear hey hey but D and Casey though not hey not getting out the king fans or not know but what other like what is everybody and I can’t say everybody but a lot of this fan base it’s like split a lot of people are excited then you got some that’s like what’s the move bro the move is the rozen like what are what else are we asking for I’m not I’m not I’m not I’m not getting that part keny I don’t know y’all explain that n it was it was it was funny um when the Demar stuff broke it was really exciting that night and then I think by the next day it was like all right what else and I don’t I don’t think that’s a a Kings fan thing I think that’s just a sports fan thing like did did uh like you can talk yourself up and down on a signing or a draft pick for days weeks months like we don’t have a basketball game we don’t have a meaningful basketball game to be played played for like five months for four more months we don’t even have a schedule yeah we’re going to talk about Demar de ro and we’re going to talk about uh how else the Sacramento Kings need to to to f fill in this roster we’re going to talk about positions of need rebounding uh Rim protection we’re going to talk about Wing defense we’re gonna talk about all of that stuff again you could talk yourself up and down on these picks um or signings all day and that that it really was like 24 hours before you know all of those uh fun really excited about demard de rozan texts turned into okay what is is kma still a thing is Ingram’s still a thing and that’s just the nature of being a fan ain’t nothing wrong with it no a nothing wrong with it at all and and I guess I’m on the spectrum of of being being high on on the whole thing because I said numerous times last week I want to know there’s two things that I want you to I want to get your your thoughts on this wasn’t what I was going to tease but I’ll ask it any anyway um I said as is with Demar D Roan there no other moves made yet I said this the the floor for this team if they’re healthy is 52 wins a lot of people thought I was bugging lot of people thought I was doing a little too much DraftKings said 45 and a half DraftKings is smoking and I don’t mean that in a good way all right they tripping on that or no do whatever you want DraftKings I need to go back to Mar and place a bet that’s what I need to do I’m going over going over big time I’m betting all the D’s money that they’re going over that’s for sure let’s take a chunk out of that marble floor and go to Maryland oh man that bro that that you’ll get a cut what what can we get with that what can we get with that we can get might be able to buy the sports book yeah that sounds about right matter of fact they probably report us the if we took that money from half of that Marvel 4 just a just a tile not whole thing just half of the tile and we said yo we want to place this money on whatever they report US they’d be like nah this is you guys doing too much what’s this drug money they probably say something crazy you guys jont Porter No One Believes you when you guys do this and the fact that it’s true you’re in on this is ridiculous I’m a neutral party I help you out sometimes I help him out but I think this is a 52 win team and and and and you I’m I’m kind of like being a little um stubborn with the whole thing CU thought about it a little bit maybe it’s more like 50 right like maybe I think it’s a 50 win team I put it exactly at 50 but I said 52 I still on business I’m not gonna go back now so I’m gonna say 52 and I just I think that’s what this team is as is that’s before they add anything if they add anything more and we got to the point last week I was like I really know if they need to add much like not I won’t say need but like when people are talking about oh they might still look at Lori Markin they may still look at Kyle kman I don’t know if those are the type of pieces they need to add anymore I’m looking more at these super role players like a FY Smith or Cam Johnson is kind of on the he Teeters back and forth between a super role player and a guy like Kyle kosman I’m looking more like those guys not like the super in super scoring type of of a play I’d be surprised if they made a I I’d be surprised if they still had inquiries about Kyle kozma um I think initially there was I I think there was they they obviously like him uh I think there’s probably Financial things with him that they need to there’s some hurdles there that they’ll have to get over um and I also think with Kyle kosma he’s probably a move because of the number of years he has on his contract he’s probably a move that you if you make a move that has money attached like in a third year when you’re starting to get into dearon Fox money big big big dearon fox money you’re starting to get into Keegan Murray rookie contract extension territory you have to ask yourself is Kyle kosma the one that makes us a contender and and and and and I’m using Kyle kosma as the example find a player who has three years or four years on their deal or who you have to add three or four years on the deal so that could throw Brandon Ingram into this as well is that the player that makes us a championship Contender um I think there’s a lot of unclearable hurdles in the way of the Brandon Ingram thing Kyle kosma I don’t know if they feel that way especially now after signing deard de Rosen um so I’m with you in the sense that like I I I think yeah sure sure 50 to 52 sure I I I I think this team has solidified themselves as a as a as a top six team um I think uh man we we we we there was a group text that I got cut up on a little a little late but it was about the rockets and and our man Kamar and I godamn sports fans love hope they they really like sports fans just love sight unseen it’s like okay yeah there was little something there with Houston okay like I’m I’m sorry we got we got Houston as a top six team we got Houston as a top eight team I just someone explained to me how and why I feel like Houston missed an opportunity this offseason heard all that like oh yeah they’re building up for Katie or building up for a big move they were building up for something that wasn’t there they didn’t capitalize on it it it was the Nicks with LeBron in 2010 like what nothing there for you I saw them out just a little bit with this summer they were built they’re building up for it doesn’t have to be this summer like they’re building up to be ready probably next summer maybe the trade deadline or something like that and I get that I think it was from everything that I heard I don’t know maybe Houston was thinking that on their own but it was never like it was never real you know when you hear like the K and like maybe right and I don’t even know that’s what I’m saying they were building for something that wasn’t there I but I was about to say I don’t even know if they necessarily use that type of word I don’t know how the reporting got there not what w said W been shaky at best W went rogue shaky at best but I could see them even if even if it was even if let’s just say for argument sake they were building up because they wanted to make an offer for Katie and Phoenix was like we’re not trading them matter of fact it should be a tweeted out as much we’re not we’re not trading and it’s not all right cool we’ll just keep all these assets for the next guy that comes along whether it’s this guy always comes up like Carl Anthony towns or um he really does anony or something like that like we’ll we’ll we’ll we’ll be ready when the time comes and I don’t have a problem with that that’s fine especially when you’re not necessarily gonna win big this year you know what I mean like I’m not saying you’re gonna be bad but you’re not GNA win big this year the part of that that group text we talked about like people high up on Houston and I think Houston has a lot of talent I mean we can’t forget what it what it was this past year they had to win like 10 games in a row to get to a point where they could finish five back of the 10 spot like they they were a middling team for the majority of this year and I think that they’ll go from being a middling team with all those young guys to a team that’s G to be top six I just got to see it I’m not saying it’s impossible I just gotta see it that’s all it is yeah I’m with you and that’s why I just it’s just fascinating we just love hope sports fans love hope and that’s all that’s all Houston is is like this projection that they’re going to be like I I think there’s this thought like Dylan Brooks and and and Fred Van Fleet are like these super young guys who are going to develop even further it’s not a knock on either one of them that we know who they are we know exactly who they are is that going to change I don’t think so good ball players I mean again I think there are good ball players there who have taken on the identity not trying to make a joke of their head coach their identity prior to his old yeah yeah prior to that he had established uh Charles Barkley he is no role model well he’s no one should follow his lead nobody but yeah I I I’m just not as sold on them as everyone else um the the other thing that that I did want to get your your thoughts on about just what I was thinking I I you know we initially we hear about demard D rozan and on the surface I’m like that’d be cool that’d be cool I got my concerns about offensively how it would fit and all this other stuff but no that’d be that’d be good that’d be okay and then it becomes more of a reality and you um you you you dive into it a little bit more and you dive into the basketball aspect of it you think about it a little bit more maybe you even sell yourself on it right I don’t think that’s what I’m doing but I could be the case like n this is actually GNA work out a lot like I like the move a lot it works out a lot more than I thought and then for me I just start to listen to Demar de ro and speak a little bit more see some other interviews I see the way he speaks about the game and being a professional athlete just winning and then I’m like oh yeah this makes a lot more sense and then you got the introductory press conference you hear them and you hear little things that matter to people in our industry that may be fans or anybody just Overlook about how he gave each TV media member like almost an hour like each one and and they all rap they’re like this doesn’t happen like this is this is amazing he sat down with Matt George he sat down with um Jay Gay and he sat down I think he gave him a total of an hour well yeah that’s what can I say each one that would have been amazing a total of just it’s Monday Demar de rosan still doing interviews with Sacramento Kings media with uh with um complex musics Sean Cunningham or whatever hey shout out Sean Cunningham I saw that man but I was sitting there and I I I listen to him and I see the way he moves and stuff like that like this might have been perfect signing and I didn’t even realize it maybe manty and all these other guys in but it’s perfect for the professional that he is the athlete that he is I kept talking last week and I compared it to Kendrick Lamar ironically and all this other stuff the discipline nature that I get from hearing dear speak and then that matches up with the way he plays basketball right in this three-point shooting era he says no my bread is buttered 15 to 17 feet away and you can’t get me off of that like I’m not gonna ride the wave and go do some other no this is where I’m gonna make my living and there’s a there’s a level of discipline to being able to do that in this era and I you kind of broke down like first and potentially first and second choices and stuff like that I don’t know if he was first or nothing like that but I think they came to a point where it’s like this guy kind of be perfect for where we’re at as a franchise and an organization and I I think I think it’ll work big saying that’s how manty and them thought I’ve bought into that I’m a big believer in that do you think he’s like the perfect guy for them right now considering all the the the the names that were on the board um the mark and CR Ingram all this other stuff feels like thear is the perfect one yeah yeah definitely uh he I I I I mean all of the things that you uh laid out right there I don’t think I’ve ever heard media clap at the I actually wasn’t sure what I was hearing I thought you did it at first and then I was like we don’t have a clap button and and I I I swear to you I scrolled back because I was for some I was watching on Twitter I scrolled back which you can’t do anymore and I was like yo the crowd the media popped okay and I was I was just sitting there on the edge kind of I I was sitting on the edge of the bed just hanging on every word dear was saying um he does feel like the perfect player for this team in many regards um I know people want defending wings and three-point shooters or Rim protectors or all of these little phrases that they hear on podcasts and shows and reading articles and all that and and all of that’s fine it doesn’t it doesn’t mean it’s inaccurate but attach a player’s name to it because we did this with Kyle kosma we found the flaws the holes or you would say the warts in Kyle kosman we did it with Zack LaVine we did it with Brandon Ingram we’ve done it with every player we’ve tried to link or have linked in some way shape or form to Sacramento well Demar doesn’t shoot the three the way everybody want all right weigh the good and the bad and it feels like with dear there’s way more good and man how many times over this stretch have we talked about Mike Brown players and mon McNair players Demar checks both boxes because we’ve wondered this guy doesn’t feel like a mani guy but he might be a Mike guy this guy feels like a Mike guy oh man doesn’t really have a history of those types of guys Demar his one his Universal respect around the league or it appears to be Universal respect around the league and the the way that he plays the way that he approaches the game it feels like when you talk about warts with dear all you’re talking about is his age and when you go back and you look at what he did last year you have to at least acknowledge well AIDS shouldn’t be a part of the conversation right now because he’s not showing signs of like with Chris Paul Chris Paul’s still one of the great point guards I think San Antonio uh assigning him is brilliant but there’s a there’s enough in recent years to go like it’s a little it’s a little scary if I’m a you know San Antonio we we know what this is like he’s going to have as much like we know as we sign Chris Ball he’s probably going to have as much impact off the floor as he is on and where we are right now as a franchise that’s really important to us with dear that’s not something you need to look at right now and that’s probably not something that you’re gonna have to look at through the duration of his contract right right and there was uh something that we read off I don’t know if you saw it too but did you see comparison um with Paul George and Demar de rozan like they just did this past year right I think they did career and this past year but basically dear was better numbers wise across the board and he’s the same age I think he’s gonna be 35 when the season start I think Paul George is gonna be 34 but you think but think about that though like think about the prize that Paul George was yeah in this free agency and it and it’s turned Philly into a fringe Contender and all this other stuff and you got a guy in D rozan who’s basically the same age with better numbers the king’s got him and it’s it’s just crazy it wasn’t I don’t I didn’t take it as a knock on either player it was just like know people look at Paul George is this super high caliber free agent well the the the kings were just able to get a guy that put up better numbers across the board and is around the same age so yeah I just think I thought about it why do you think that is that Paul George yeah they’re they’re they’re not looked at as the same I don’t want to say type of player the same tier of player by by some right like as as as with the last couple weeks have played out there are people who are scoffing at the notion of Paul George going to Philadelphia making them a contender and then one thing that I have learned and we kind of talked about too there and you just mentioned it there is a high level of reverence and respect at least from the media for Demar de rozan you know what I mean when people people that we were expecting to like sound crazy about this deal the the uh the Kevin oconnell you know the the Tim Bon Tims the those guys they were like no it’s it’s actually a pretty good deal like I’m cool with the deal the Rosen is this he’s that he’s that like kings did good for themselves they got better you know what I mean but um I think Paul George is a little bit more captivating you know when you see a guy that size being able to play I remember I told you I think for the first time maybe two years ago or whatever when we were at the beginning of one of the um we were there for one of the Kings games and it was when they were shooting around or whatever and I don’t know maybe it was my first time being that close to Paul George and I like turn to you I was like he’s hella tall like he’s like a legit 69ine and then you think about how he plays he plays like like Dame Lillard you know his style crossing over pulling up doing all this other stuff it’s like this guy’s crazy so I think he’s just he just kind of captivates people a little bit more with his style of play than what he’s able to do a little flashier or whatever the case may be and the Roan just kind of he’s a little more Workman it feels like yeah because I’m glad you use that phrase because in today’s NBA what gets the most attention trade trade requests right like that’s that’s like you’re you’re you’re you’re a top tier player you’re stuck in Indiana get me out of here you’re a top tier player in Toronto of all freaking places and you can’t get over the hump you’re winning 60 games and you’re getting your ass kicked by LeBron James in the playoffs dear’s just traded yeah dear never asked to be traded he was just nobody made an uproar about that right dear was just a player involved in a trade and that gets far less attention than the guy who says get me out of here that gets far less attention than the guy who shows up to what is believed to be his last game in a franchise with a That’s all folks t-shirt on saying oh I don’t even pick out my own clothes that was crazy okay all right cool we’re gonna spend spend our time just going nuts over that and not over the dude who busted his ass in Toronto or San Antonio or Chicago and the Chicago thing was tough because for a minute they were good but that was it they were nothing more they were nothing less they were good and then they weren’t right and probably not a lot of fault to like the talent there but you you just injury after injury losing Lonzo I don’t it was just so devastating Lonzo was such a phenomenal playmaker losing him was death and then things just started piling on one another and so you already had a team that was just good so to lose a piece on a team that’s just good just put you in a in a brutal position and then of course one piece became two pieces became three pieces right and now they’re like Chicago is in you know this something we could probably say for another day because Zack LaVine was such a part of the conversation Chicago is in a very unique place in hell right now that I don’t know how they get out of because we focus on Zack LaVine and we know that you know maybe they they they want to try to get out of this Lonzo ball year they still got vich for like 40 yeah big V they resigned him to a year ago it’s like you guys are drowning and no one is going to throw you a life raft at this point you might have you might have to trade away your future assets just to get off of that money or bite the bullet and know you’re probably gonna stink for the next handful of years yeah or maybe not stink you’re you’re not GNA be God awful but you’re just not going to be able to compete in that conference the next handful of years and the the crazy thing about that is they got players that can play you know you got Kobe white who who had a little bit of a breakout season you know you got uh ISO who can who can play as well um they got guys that can play but it’s just not matching up like they like you know what might have to happen is they might have to give up one of those guys like to get rid of voo they might have to give up Kobe white which is which would be a good foundational piece for what you’re trying to do but to get off those contracts you have to attach like not just pics but like players that you really like and that’s almost how you start completely from scratch is you give up even the and that’s what people look at Utah is Lori Markin in 27 turning 28 or whatever it is like right maybe he he’s he’s going to like Peak as these other guys that we have are ascending and that’s the only argument I could see for moving on from from Lori Markin and un you know if you’re able to get these level of assets that they’re talking about with Chicago like I don’t know what Kobe white gets you especially if you’re giving up especially if you the the mandatory thing is you got to take vich with him right we’ll come back um there was one NBA thing it happened on Friday that legit left me speechless yeah we was we was we was talking yeah yeah legit I think I’m a one manless uh we’ll talk about it steo and Casey brought to you by Sky River casino and Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 uh my man Jay Jay this has been bugging me and I just want to help you out here I think you’re missing koz’s last year because you’re off by about $20 million K has a whole year left that herder doesn’t have that 5 million I think is good for the two years but then you have to tack on uh the 19.4 at the end so it’s not a it’s not it’s not quite as clear of a swap as you might think you’re just missing that that that year [Music] C I was telling TR this when I was talking to her the other the other day I can tell you I went down to the uh to the National Harbor when I was out there that’s a really nice area it is really gorgeous it is gorgeous see myself see myself going back I told I was I was talking to uh sherlin Baltimore shout out to her she’s still in the chat but I said I said you know when I was younger I was like yeah I’m G just live in California forever I’m a California guy but as I’ve gotten older and you get older and you know you like lose family members and stuff like that you just just change like some of the things that tethered you to a place aren’t there anymore right I said I don’t think I’m on the verge of anything but I I said at some point I think I could move back I could move to the east coast and if I did you know it probably be that DMV area well not Virginia I went through a couple well there’s some there’s some good areas there are there are I went through a couple in Virginia where I was like well like you you on the Baltimore well no no you you go into the South real quick oh in Virginia oh yeah like it turns from DMV to you’re in the South yeah I drove through that so it’s like well gotta be careful I like Maryland though I do like Maryland and uh she go I don’t know I don’t know if you want to move out here well you get the human Summers like there you get the human sum she’s like that winter them winners ain’t no joke them winterers ain’t no joke one one day I I don’t know when I got I got a lot of work to do out here first one day maybe I think it’s always it’s good to having done it now it’s it’s I’m glad I experienced Connecticut I’m glad I experienced DC and Knoxville and in those different places um living on the East Coast it’s just so different really it’s just a whole whole different such a different B one of my one of my best friends known the guy for 20 plus years I talk to him at this point through the group chat and everything like every day he just called me be your own people do you not know what it’s it’s 318 one of my best friends do you not know what I do for a living do you not listen he’s not a fan he’s not happy I’m back show was way better last week last cap we survived Arizona is the only place I would leave Cali for all right Edgar boy it’s hot there you like the you like you like that dry heat it was humid in Caro you would have loved that you know I it was it was humanid as hell on the East Coast now it was look you’re getting destroyed either way it was like 95 right like it was it was crazy but you know what I’m always looking out for there were a couple overcast moments I could live with that there was a couple overcast moments out here over the weekend yeah there were overcast was hot I was like I can I could do this it was still hot as H but I can do this it made the walks in the morning a lot it was a nice morning today Sprout was walking with all sorts and energy I’m like yesterday evening was really nice it was it was really nice outside yesterday evening yeah I opened the windows for the first time guys was like yo do we turn the air off real quick open the windows at night forgot what that felt like out here right what was it about 11 12 days of just yeah hell yeah yeah because I know it was bad the whole time I was gone and that that day walking that Saturday walking into the golden one Center was excruciating you see she’s on the shop I did with h Three Stacks I want to watch saw that those two of my favorite people sexy red and Andre 3000 you do love you some sexy red shout out to Kendrick Lamar one very underrated do thing about the demard de R rozan signing was he signed right after the not like us video dropped and it created that Visual and steel shot that everybody was using it was it just it like the excitement would have been there don’t misunderstand what I’m saying for the Demar signing but the element of that still shot from the video which is which was so current in the moment and was going absolutely was Flawless yeah it was all over the place on Saturday night or so Saturday and Sunday right that that was that was pretty cool that was really dope I was speechless when I saw Jaylen brunson’s contract like Floyd like I as I read the tweet I think it was from wge over and over and over again trying to figure out what I was missing like what I didn’t understand so I read it and read it and read it it was like all right put the phone down wait I I like wait because I know I know the the order of operations is W tweets it and then in 10 20 minutes or whatever the article the companies with it with maybe a smidge bit more detail will post M waited for the article to post got it read it got no Clarity on it just Jaylen passed up an un goodly amount of money just for the sake of helping out the New York Knicks I guess so did he did he did he really now he took a little bit of a gamble but the the way I read everything he could see all that money and then s back so I’m of the belief you don’t ever see no money back uhuh until it’s in front of you fair and now to to be fair to the entire situation the money that wge the money that everyone’s talking about wge was writing about the 100 was it 13 yeah yeah that wasn’t now that was next year if he waited yeah so you still you still you still had to wait a year to get that there was money in front of him right now and it it’s it’s not a money that it’s not money that you just like walk away from but year over year God forbid Jaylen tears his Achilles in February I’m of the belief jaylen’s getting that money in July it’s going to come across I don’t know how this is going to come across jayen in three years when he has that uh option I don’t know jaylen’s how old at that time be 31 or 32 around that we looked at it last week and so we’re signing a 30y old to a $400 million contract you’re signing him to that too if like he has postseason success like if you’re just getting bounced in the second round year after year or whatever like I’m not even sure you pay like like at that point like if you if you because how I look at this if you’re getting to that point and Jaylen signs that contract he is the New York Nick he is the one above that story Patrick Carmelo Willis Reed it is Jaylen effen Brunson if he’s signing that contract in three years and that man people say oh he can make that oh he can make two oh that 400 it’s going to be there because the years of service and this man three years at 30 that that that’s crazy I know I know we see some some instance is where it doesn’t happen but it it’s like he’s probably going to be around the level to to deserve that right like it’s almost like uh like if you would have took Dame Lillard at 27 like he ended up by the time he was 31 or whatever he still doing the same things he was doing and they weren’t winning as much and you you’re and then twofold you’re able to be that type of player in New York City I ain’t G to say you’re making 100 $ 13 million back in endorsements and all I ain’t saying that but like it adds to the brand that’s the fascinating thing I hear that all of the time where are these endorsements coming from like American Express because you’re the New York Knicks point guard you get on you get on you get that ahead of dearon fox what’s because you’re the New York Knicks point guard fair enough what’s the American Express endorsement deal there is probably pretty rich huh when you think American Express like what’s Rich though like we we talking upward it’s it’s not once again it’s not 100 yeah yeah but it’s it’s it’s no seven you mean eight figures is that you talking about and eight is eight is 10 right like no I say I say so think maybe more than that you need a whole lot of American Express deals to make up uh so let’s do that f f five over four that’s 20 million that’s if you’re the American Express endorser for four years yeah okay cool all right give me 80 million more give me 90 million more look the I I’m there’s two things that I think about number one I think he’s gonna get to that three 300 mil for Mill I think he’s gonna get to that okay I understand there’s a risk that you might not I get that the other thing that I think about and you you know how I feel about this and it’s easy for me to say because I’m not in issues I don’t have a $113 million extra million doll check that I’m turning down right I I don’t don’t listen to this man um but at this point if I signed this extension the extension was like 150 or something right sure something like that I mean I’ve made $300 million in my career I’m probably going to make another two to 300 million more at least do I need to stick this team up for do I need to stick this team up team up for like 113 right now or next year or whatever why not do what I I’m still making a lot of money and why not do what I can to make sure my team is good and my profile continues to stay high around me or what might happen What might happen to be honest with you and this is where people they might look at me as somebody they can just move on from and I lose all of this because if I don’t play ball and it comes down to the second apron stuff they might just move on from me yeah you got money though I’m getting I’m getting money anyway like I’m getting money any got I’ve got 300 from them I’m going to get another no he not he’s not getting paid he’s not getting that deal there’s no way Jaylen Bron’s getting that deal 32 you can get 300 I already look I already I already cut it in half I’m gonna get another 200 from I’m gonna make $500 million from the New York Knicks when it’s aome he’s gonna look at the end of his career ringless W I gave up 113 or 100 however M do it really matter at that point when you’ve gotten 500 million from this the fact that I didn’t get six where are you getting this 500 he get didn’t he get a $120 million deal to start with he just signed a $150 million extension he’s going to sign at least a $200 million extension okay so you $500 million from the Knicks over the course of like eight seasons and I’m gonna be I I did wrong because I didn’t get 600 it’s all hypothetical if it’s me I’m taking WS in front here’s like you you’re a fascinating individual when it comes to this type of stuff and I guess is just because you’re rich and you can speak from what I I don’t I don’t know what you’re talking about but I I’m just [Music] gonna this one’s tricky CU he just signed an extension so let’s let’s go all the way to 2029 what rules are we playing with by way what R we playing what we doing here oh you said have saw your boy Kyle oh man well actually Kyle was on my side a littleit but still the princip yeah we’re going to write the numbers down a in the middle of the Season what league does that in the middle of the damn season the NBA just did it they didn’t change no rules the NBA started calling fouls the second half of the Season bro it’s a conspiracy it’s a conspiracy I apologize the NBA stopped calling fouls on man it’s a CO n conspiracy against your boy this is crazy the if the pwl has gone to a new low with this one wow Jaylen Brunson the former number 33 overall pick in the 2018 NBA draft he has six years in the books however we’re adding five years that he has ahead the two years remaining on his deal and the contract extension that was just signed willing include the player option boy he’s going to be 31 at the time man I can’t believe you’re that confident in him getting a massive contract in but we we’ll get to that we’ll go all the way till the very end when he’s owed $ 43.3 million to make to make the uniqueness of this game level out he will earn 43 .3 in the final year to this point his highest grossing year was 2022 where he earned 27.7 that should tell you something about the contract that he signed 27.7 what is was his highest grossing to date in 2022 the most he will earn is the final year of his extension in 2028 at $ 43.3 million the former number 33 overall pick in the draft Jaylen Brunson his career earnings as the gentlemen take to the board and share their numbers wait what how are we doing this what’s going on we’re writing the numbers down have a pen you don’t have a pen he loses that he loses I win how would I have a pen this is like Draft Day turn in your draft card if you don’t have it you’re done Vikings in exactly tummies let me get a pen so we’re w 11 years on this I barely I barely have paper you can use here I got some paper right here insiders rundown and you got like eight Insider rundowns over there you don’t even have a pen the music hits we’ve got nothing here because no one has taken a guess well because this is a a stupid way to go about it it’s a CO n conspiracy but I I’ll play the game and I’ll win the damn game it doesn’t matter it doesn’t matter let me me write this little sorry guess on here because it don’t matter I’m about to win about to do what I do talk less and write more all right I guess the answers are incoming here at some point you’d like the SP are we ready are we ready get Jesse on here I don’t want to seeing my number I’m waiting for you ready all right numbers up Kenny carway 303 Millie 285 million from Jesse Kenny carway at 303 Jesse at 285 at the end of the deal Jaylen Brunson will have earned 241 m63 ,000 the end of what yeah yeah your I think your numbers are off he did not get paid by the Knicks in that first deal by the way like he did not get some massive deal I think what you’re forgetting is he’s he has years remaining on his deal he signed an extension that starts at the end of that deal it’s an so okay now this is ridiculous he’s some bull junk goad some bull junk would say let him know so at the end of the $125 million deal that he signed isn’t he getting another1 155 he’s getting an additional 155 he signed a 4year 125 like a year ago the extension the three-year extension or whatever is three years 155 ain’t it I I don’t know what what deal you’re talking about I’m gonna go cut run EXT the the the extension he so I have him signing this there’s his initial deal with J of course we don’t have the we never got the $30 from the tribal Chief and we were promised so we like yeah no prom I got you guys look now we can’t even be on Twitter anymore either yeah yeah we can’t be on Twitter now we gotta ask Aaron for $40 and given the conversation I had with him at about 1215 that $40 isn’t coming no yeah anyways your numbers are off pal what what the hell do W you went into this with a very defeated attitude by the way well because it’s 20 V1 it’s 20 V1 against your boy 20 V1 steroid guy got arrested yeah that guy got his ass whooped too [Laughter] so so so what’s the extension the extension is uh 156.43 that’s the extension it’s a four-year extension wait a minute with a player option wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute why are you still contesting this the extension the extension is what $16.5 million what did he sign with the ncks 4 I I I I I don’t know what he originally signed with the ncks 4 so tell me if I’m wrong the extension starts at the end of the contract that he originally signed with with the Knicks right for 160 million or so 156 million so shouldn’t it be 156 plus 125 um I I I I don’t know if you would like to take we’re using spot track the same thing we use uh all of the time but no let’s instead of having an engaging conversation I’ll just sit here and Google that’s that’s what I’ll do to appease uh Kenny’s um contest of the this is this is his first deal with the Knicks was four years 104 million 400 104 million yeah so you you combine that with the the two something right and you have or with the 160 excuse me50 so you’re at 260 something and then he probably I saw he made like $5 million when he played the match so Jesse still wins well the the the answer was wrong throw this game out throw it out this is sad honestly [Laughter] his career earnings to this point are 60 million yeah sounds about right this is in the middle of the fouryear deal he signed with the Knicks and he what he make two hell he must have made two dollar when he when he when he signed for the Mavericks well yeah the 33rd pick in the draft yeah he made $2 Mark H was like ah we’ll wait it out we want man we won’t give this guy his money he’s making two dolls he probably would have he probably would have took a $50 million deal Mark cubin was treating him like an NFL running back he really was like that notice notice Mark Cuban Ste down from his from his role shortly after this Jaylen Brunson thing man well I think the number was off I probably still lost though but I think I think it’s it’s probably my my calculations have it at about like what 27 I have it at about 260 I can’t figure out what where this 104 is unless the 10 have they not added up the whole contract yet oh no no no no no hang on hang on let me go back to spot track I think I got it okay yeah here’s why 2024 is a no I’m sorry that’s wrong 2025 is a player option so that is gone so that year so it’s basically a three-year contract so the contract that we knew as a four-year contract turned out to be a three-year contract and the extension why we should have never done this stupid ass uh one in the first it’s why we should trust spot track the source let me call Keith [Laughter] Smith this one was doomed from the start I told you it was a cacy why was Jessie so confident and you weren’t because I don’t know why Jesse was Jesse wasn’t confident you were completely flabbergasted by this he wasn’t confident all you would have had to have done was go a dollar over a dollar under this made the game more fun this was yeah with we don’t even know that we just figured out what this guy contract was about man what his no we just figured out how the contract was structured we know what the contract is it’s about six minutes going on Kenny’s rant right now he just like just like my Angelo still our rise still our rise y’all can’t hold me down still our shout out my Angela next thing you know he’s going to post a picture on on Twitter with pwl is a joke on his shirt ah see he got some of you he got some of you hip-hop ass that was actually a deep hip-hop cut that’s that’s a deep hip-hop cut people were like oh he’s calling a joke now it’s actually a deep hip hop cut but some of y’all show it that you don’t know whatever man you don’t know man super deep hip-hop cut I didn’t I didn’t even know that to I read up on it a little bit that’s all it took was a quick search you have been working so hard to stall that dude out over the last two months I don’t know man I think he got some of y’all on that one because y’all thought he was really saying rap is a joke it’s actually a deep cut it’s in his best interest just leave it alone a deep cut like just just stop Tre he didn’t even say nothing about the uh the beef come on Broly we all know it somebody no we ain’t gonna go there somebody suggested it was something else no leave it there leave it there but uh yeah that shirt was uh yeah it’s a deep cut the death of Slim Shady tracking to be the number one album on the billboard 200 this would be his 11th number one album that’s interesting because I heard uh the the the numbers weren’t doing well I don’t know who to believe I believe Bill board and believe what you said more than what I heard but I heard that the the streams or something was doing too and I was like that what are we talking about though I can’t remember specific streams like like looking right now these aren’t Travis numbers these aren’t Drake numbers these aren’t Beyonce numbers but they’re they’re healthy numbers I’d be what I had read I was surprised I was like that can’t be can’t be factored something can’t be factored in because I I’d expect him to be number one with that album if Houdini was the number one song I expect that album to be number one or close to it um yeah this is this is number one uh he’ll be number one it’s tracking towards a about 300,000 units that’s a good number yeah it’s a very good number but I I think in in com comparison I think Travis was about four uh Drake was about four and I think Beyonce was around six that 300 number still crazy do yet Taylor doesn’t even count no we don’t she got Will Chamberlain numbers that a that a dope number M that’s that’s big big uh big units moved there pause 22 to 20 as we enter the final weeks of the pwl we got two weeks the season ends on August 1 so we’re just like uh the eepl right ain’t no playoffs just yeah no playoffs just champ at the end get these games in though we got we got we got time right man yeah it’s all right it’s good it’s good it’s good still our rise Kenny Kenny acting like Dom when Ria popped up on Monday Kenny’s acting like the underdog when he’s got all these resources disposal whatever everybody’s against your boy but it’s cool I’m gonna still our rise it’s just a little thre man station over here bro we’re working you went from Drake to Pac huh still our ride okay all right but so look back to to the Brunson situation though I he’s gonna make a a generational money it’s it’s okay he left a hundred million out there it’s it’s fine again you rich people you think different I I guess it is but when when is I guess to some people too much is Never Enough like I understand that aspect of I also understand the idea like that there’s 156 million in front of of him right now this second he can guarantee himself $156 million we sometimes look at it it’s it’s a foregone conclusion that he’ll get such and such next year like I under I I understand that line of thinking as well um I just we’ve never seen it executed do you think this is something we’ll see moving forward no no Absol not I do not I hate when they like oh yeah player took this amount of money so the team can do this this and that it’s never the other way around yeah like because cuz you because you you talk about you talk about what they what you know what the Knicks could have done all of this different stuff I it I understand this is far-fetched what if the Knicks aren’t good what if hypothetically you don’t like OG and noi what if OG stinks next year and if I’m Jaylen Brunson I’m like you sign this dude to 200 some odd million dollars I took 100 I passed up $113 million so you could sign this dude most athletes don’t like that thought will creep into his head Jaylen Brunson will never say that out loud he’s not that type of person he’s not that type of player ogan anobi goes again play along scoreless for a week that’s I’m on $13 million to keep this team off the second apron for that guy like it doesn’t you don’t see it very often because I feel like it could create resentment well well I’ll I’ll say this this is the way and Brunson does appear to be wired differently he’s wired like you or it’s like um you know I got enough money I wire it that way I don’t have the Brunson money though so there there is a difference but the way I look at that situation let’s say for instance he took less money so they could sign OG the reason why that would never happen if it was me is because once I decided to do that I looked at all the the worst things that could happen OG could stink and I’ve got to before I put pin to paper gotta say if he stinks and he’s making $200 million and I give up a $100 million for them to sign him I have to be can I live with myself can I live with this decision and the second I say yeah I can live with it it won’t come up like just like if he does if it does play out that way I knew what I was signing up for I ain’t getting mad at them for signing I knew what I was getting into and it’s one of those things where I like this super hypothetical right but like if we if if Odyssey has a salary cap if Odyssey has a second apron which some say they do there’s a second apron here at Odyssey and you know contract time is up and they offer me 130 but if we have 130 then we gonna have to get rid of one of the Insiders but if you take 110 we can sign everybody take the 110 I’m G take the 110 to keep the team to give keep the team together would you take 80 would I take 80 I mean it once again James ham lives if you take 80 well I mean lives at Odyssey of course I mean but in in in my current state yes I take 80 because 80 would be just so much more than what I have right now but yeah yeah what if they’re offering you 213 but in order to keep James you got to take a 100 yes I’m I’m good and you combine that with the fact that I’ve already gotten you guys for 100 plus so I’m I’m I’m okay it’s it’s okay and and you’re telling even though you guys say Hey you ain’t nobody lives to see that there’s still the possibility that I can make all this money back and then some yeah I’ll take it yeah you can make it back on endorsements or podcast podcast Jesus Danny in San Francisco hey get some of this advertising on this podcast here J street vibes but uh and and I think that plays into it right like I think Jaylen looked at it like I could make all this money but I love playing with my Villanova guys I love what we just went through in the playoffs and I and and he’s like people can say like the the team is pulling the wo but it is true like not pulling the wool over he knows what he’s like your I think your original point was the most important he knows what he signed like no one was right fooling him on what was going on even then though but like um like you everybody can’t make the most money and these guys stay together like if they all want to stay together if they all want to make it like you get to play with Michel you get to keep divon chinzo Josh Hart you got OG everybody can’t make the most money so if you want to play with these guys here’s and and I and I hear you here’s my issue with that my my my only issue with that m is the person who has more money than all of us combined is James Dolan and James Dolan wants a team that puts 18,000 people 19,000 people in the mecca night after night after night he wants a team that’s playing into late May and early June he’s GNA come out of his pocket Lup has done it for years you want a team that does what they they did you’re gonna come out the pocket until he didn’t until he didn’t right Lup until he didn’t there’s gonna there’s gonna become a breaking point where he’s like for sure I’m not paying but how yeah but like what’s been the like we’re what are we on like year eight well the no the the luxury though that’s what three years like the crazy luxury Tech Bill luy tax well the crazy crazy one I think is one but yeah the the the yeah he got to the point like I’m notay now to your original point though they’re in a different place than what the Knicks are right like yeah the Warriors now are like a a playing Team maybe Leica pays it if they’re still one seed caliber I I don’t know but I’m of the belief at some point yeah he can play it but the reality is they’re not going to so what you what you gonna do you’re gonna like you’re gonna fight the good fight and be like no you should pay it because you got more money or just accept and understand that somebody’s going to go like they’re not going to pay this they’re not going to pay hell the Celtics owner said I’m selling I’m not paying all this at at the end of the day my tequila brand is cooking me me and Mike getting out of the NBA and selling tequila so I mean it’s it’s just I think he kind of looked around I was like yeah it’s probably it’s not fair you know I mean James Owen can pay for all this and everybody gets paid but he probably won’t so let me take a little bit off the front end with the hopes that I’ll get it on the back end and we can keep everybody together I understand it why are we done so early what’s on next we get the Home Run Derby tonight five o’clock we got the Home Run Derby I like the Home Run Derby man I don’t even know what that sounds like on the radio yeah back back back back oh is it B no I don’t know if it’s bman I’m sure it’s a lot of that there you hit it really far the another one the finals are I think I’ve heard it on on 1320 before the finals you can like follow what’s going on in the opening rounds it’s just people hitting hom R oh and he hit another one tell us about 1942 Bob like stuff like that tequila the year Ramsey says it’s great radio I believe I mean Ramsey would know Derby Ramsey would know hey tune in what’s it what’s on it for run it back very nice we go very nice all right still got two minutes fellas look no I’m just I’m just looking at this money like brunson’s making $ 34.4 million in 2526 he could have been making 46.3 those numbers are just they’re just incredible the thing whether he gets there or not the thing that like really does stick out to me or stuck out to me when I first heard it was the the numbers you can make yeah that’s that’s that’s insane $400 million Contra insane wow the Knicks are like the best position 415 418 the Knicks are the best position in the East to go after Boston though right yeah yeah in my op yeah they’re in the best position I like Philly though I I think Philly Philly doesn’t have the depth I don’t think the the the Philly feels like like WCW like they’re just trying to scrap together like Jeff jar get over here Brutus get Brutus beef cake over here and have him grow a beard like that’s that I don’t know maybe maybe Paul George is Scott Hall and maybe they got Caleb Martin uh like jar McCain you got 2000 2000’s Hulk Hogan over there Joan beid one of them guys is Buff Bagwell Jo and beid they’re asking him not to start on Team USA we talk about that we’re trying to put the belt on Tyrese Maxi right now but embiid Hulk Hogan won’t get out the way oh hey that’s one of those guys is Billy in a tank top like I’ve never been more out on the 76ers yeah I’m just not I’m not there I like their players maybe it’s Daryl Mory maybe that’s what it is I can’t stand darl Mor so you and James Harden that’s where you guys unite he’s a liar he’s a liar hey uh before we go Jasmine is in the chat War jine thank you no would you you got 30 seconds to share uh with Jazz what the evening is going to be like no look I can paraphrase for you Jasmine what Kenny said was leave him the hell alone do not bother him he has a video game absolutely not and if you disturb him when NCAA football comes out tonight there will be serious consequences for you don’t listen to the and the entire family B it was in the first segment Jaz I was just parh don’t listen to the media we got to go we’re going to run it back and then we’re going to head out to the Home Run Derby Casey and I are going to head over to 25 we’ll see you guys tomorrow here beginning at 10 A.M with the Insiders on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 13 Vos college football now babe listen I ain’t no I ain’t say all that I just said cut the stream now I just I I said we’ve been waiting a long time we want to play ree want to play too I gotta teach him Ryan want to play that’s what she told me Ryan Ryan says she want to play so you and and look you can play too we got two controllers I could teach you that would be a cool Moment Like Brian’s like ready to play video games like all right and you give her the controller that don’t work I do that now I give her the PS4 controller poor Jesse’s gotta go home and play on the PS4 is still f is it I’m I’m not trying to sound like a jacket is it coming on the PS4 no no no because you know I think you can play on if you have a PS4 I think you can play online against people I got to figure out cuz like the movie is like I can get PS5 but the movie is like yeah well you’re getting married next to your jackass so maybe let’s save for that he you might have hey bro you might have to wait for uh NCAA 26 bro I’m saying uh it’ll be fine it’ll be fine what PlayStation are we on five five which one do you have four okay 26 bro 26 gonna be I’m worry they’re gonna work all the Kinks out too I think Jasmine just popped in to say welcome back and then left she didn’t even hear that so love you girl that’s what I’m saying Drew Down PS5 is for live like Kenny’s got a PS5 babe like I can play Kenny hang with the boys PS5 is Forever Until ps6 comes out this is true I think they’ve actually slowed down on all that stuff has been the one for a minute right it’s been out for a while because it was like every five six years I think they now they’re going to VR I got to get the Oculus popping again that Alpha One only lasted for like 20 minutes and then it was done yeah yeah that thing shut down quick didn’t it man I was at the Apple Store uh lastek a couple weeks ago tried on wasn’t it like $3,000 not well not a lot of people but that’s not a Sound Investment yeah’s got a good point all I really need to do is like cut down like two tables at the wedding and we’re solid it’s facts that is well James Kyle Dow KC no y’all are in don’t worry sorry man what that with who was that uh was that uh was that The Rock when he say k d go get his that was Nation rock all right y’all we got a show to do we will uh we’ll see y’all tomorrow love you girl Jasmine hit the thumbs down love you baby Dam rip Twitter
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