What feels like a particularly relevant segment from when Steph went on Andre’s podcast back in May 2022. Full episode is here.
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@Golden State Warriors
What feels like a particularly relevant segment from when Steph went on Andre’s podcast back in May 2022. Full episode is here.
by taygads
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I guess we should ask Cowboys fans how to deal with such an owner. Joe Lacob really seems like his generation’s Jerry Jones
the team is not the same without Andre
Tbf its mostly Steph lol
Curry is a generational talent. Rare to get. I predict it’ll be 25 years and Lacob not being involved anymore before GSW wins another championship.
Sorry Joe no amount of money can buy you a chip.
Long story short: Joe needs Steph to win a championship lol
Owners, gms, coaches, players always try to take the credit. Krause with the bulls dynasty was probably the dumbest to say he was responsible. Yes, kerr, myers, elite role players and others contribute value for sure. But we won 4 chips on the greatness of stephen curry, period.
Joe is probably one of the best owners in the league, played the luxury tax for year to keep this team a dynasty and a contender. The players get 100s of millions of dollars and a platform to become influential people. I don’t know what Iggy wants more from the owner, “get a piece of it”…why would the owners do that especially to someone if the caliber of Iggy. Main superstars can have opportunities to become minority owners but they need to invest some of that 100s of millions of dollars they made playing, it’s not going to be handed to them.
Andre is right, but he’s also wrong.
A big part of the reason why the warriors are not championship contenders any longer is because of the decline of Steph. Joe may think he can do it again, but the bottom line is, Steph isn’t in that prime athletic window anymore. Joe may never do it again, but hanging onto the past isn’t going to do it again either. Jerry Krause probably disbanded the Last Dance Bulls too soon, but his general sentiment was correct: the team was aging, maybe they had another title run in them, but probably no more than that.
It’s not just because Andre and company made it look easy, it’s also because of the age they were when they were all assembled together. The peak competitive window for a pro athlete is so damn short. When you have your shot, you’ve got to convert it. Harden’s best shot was in 17-18, and that game 7 was his best chance at a title. He’s not young anymore and can’t do what he did then to propel his team to the top.
Also, when you win, a lot, everyone wants theirs’. The 49ers best shot was last year, and they came up short, and now, they’re going to trade Aiyuk. The window will close really fast.
In hindsight, the most amazing thing about the champion warriors was not that they won, but that they managed to keep that window open for 8 seasons (2014-15 to 2021-22). That’s an eternity to keep a championship window open. They went that long without egos and hurt feelings getting in the way.
I get what Andre is saying about credit and how owners want to take their share, and I agree that the players are the most important part, but there comes a time when moving on and trying again, whether you succeed or fail, is absolutely the right move, because staying with what you have will only decay more and more with each passing season.
That is the single biggest thing athletes fail to understand in these discussions: whether or not the organization is ever able to reclaim the success they had with you is independent of whether or not moving on from you was the right decision or not.
Andre’s always bitching about something or somebody.
Completely agree that equity should be a part of player salaries, or at least an option. Look at tech companies: often equity is a huge part of employee compensation, sometimes equaling or exceeding people’s cash compensation. This means that employees are literally invested in the success of the company and might try harder to ensure that their investment increases in value.
Look at Wiggins. We can debate the why, but the fact is his play dropped off after he secured his bag. But imagine if his pay was mostly shares in GSW instead of cash. Suddenly, winning, growing the brand etc is gonna be a lot more materially relevant to him. You can also imagine players being more down for media availability, fan events, things that grow the team’s brand.
This could also allow ownership groups that don’t have the same amount of cash on hand as a Lacob or a Balmer to be able to afford a bit more in player salaries, by making equity a larger portion of the comp.
Just sayin’.
If Joe doesn’t go over the luxury tax the warriors win one chip and that’s it.