The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Zach Lowe to discuss the possibility of Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, and Draymond Green finishing their careers with the Golden State Warriors.
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Hilarious. Green just beat up Poole smh distraction before the season starts smh
My wacky sports conspiracy theory: Draymond Green is a member of LeBron James Inner Circle. Not because he was Nashly that but LeBron is someone who is magnetized by players with drive and Draymond has that in spades. Being close to LeBron means that you’re close to clutch sports and ultimately you get that rubbing off on you in terms of business both in business acumen/savvy as well as business in the individual sense.
The conspiracy part two all of this comes from LeBron and Jack’s dream on with the clutch sports virus and the Warriors dynasty closes with them missing the finals, dream on reacting similarly to how he blew up KD, leading to him being traded the following season and ending the dynasty. LeBron remains the most dominant player of his error and the Warriors end up not having more rings than he does.
Wild/wacky conspiracy theory endEd.
Looks like Draymond is a giant distraction already
Draymond leaves due to money. Klay will get traded when his value peaks. Steph overstays after the two are gone and after some turmoil with the front office, kindly demands a trade to Charlotte where he retires.
Idc warriors better pay all 3 forever
I wouldn’t pay Draymond $10 million per year much less $35 million annually. He’s a declining player who played terribly during the playoffs last year.
I would have traded Draymond three years ago when he still had some value for a contending team. Now he has ZERO value for ANY kind of team.
I doubt it. Would love it but if they want to remain competitive after this era, one of them has to go.
Did they not see what a trash Draymond was when Steph and Klay was injured and Durant left? Draymond can elevate stars but we already saw, if he was with a bunch of trash he would create trash, he can not elevate lesser player even in his prime. He is the type of player that enhances the players around them not elevate, meaning if HOF like durant, step and klay they will realy shine, while put him on a shit team, he will also stinks to high heavens.
The reason why that was a thing pertaining to draymonds value is because he 2 years ago without Steph and Klay the warriors were last in the league. Klay Thompson is also highly overrated.
yes they objectively all will
Draymond is only in a contract year if he rejects his option and 0 shot he gets a max by another team or more than the Warriors can and will offer.
The timing of this with Draymond throwing hands at training…impeccable
Steph is the undisputed Greatest Golden State Warrior of All Time. He gets the supermax. Klay and Dray are both athletically diminished from themselves 3 years ago. If the duo of Wiseman and Moody is found to be a suitable replacement for what Green contributes, he's out. If the duo of Wiggins and Poole are found to be acceptable replacements for what Klay provides, he's out unless he accepts a medium contract.
The team chose Draymond over Durant. Think about that for a minute.
@Bill Simmons – How much of Steph's production is directly related to their connection and what Dray provides?
Draymond just punched jordan Poole…. off you f
Draymond to me is the biggest question mark. Klay, just cuz of his personality alone, seems the least likely to want to leave. Plus theres how the organization treated him when he was hurt.
Steph i feel is also likely to stay til the end (as long as he dsnt want another max or super large contract). Only way i see him leaving, for anything but money, is to go play in charlotte for a year or two. But i think thats less likely as time goes by.
Now as for draymond i think its trickier. He really is one of those where one of his biggest strengths is also his biggest weakness, his emotion. What he brings to this team is invaluable and not sth many can even hope to duplicate. But his emotion has gotten the better of him on multiple occasions and cost him team, though it has also helped his team just as much, if not more.
Obviously the details r not out yet but he did just punch poole during practice. and unless poole seriously seriously stepped over the line, then draymond as a 33 year old vet and leader should have that shit under control by now.
I want these three to stay together, yeah tony parker had like one season away that most ppl dont remember, but it just feels weird that one of them didnt finish with the spurs. I really dont want to see the day one of these three plays for another team, it just wouldnt seem right.
Draymond’s ego will get in his way, he’ll play a couple years somewhere else, get stranded on the bench, and retire. Steph and Klay will take pay cuts (Klay sooner than Steph) to keep their young core intact so they can sneak a couple more championships out.
Draymond is nothing more than a passenger. Should be grateful for whatever they offer.
Haha his example for dray working with lesser players was dame. Wow
“ Are we sure he’s not gonna be a distraction” lol few hours later reports surface about Draymond fighting Jordan Poole
I think Jordan Poole is gone with his value at its peak. He’s too selfish of a player and doesn’t move the culture forward. They can get back a lot for him
What Kareem and Magic are to basketball,that's what Simmons and Lowe are to basketball podcasting
"Are we sure he (Draymond) isn't going to be a distraction?"
Lol he punches Jordan Poole in the face the next day lolololol
Draymond can go anywhere but pistons , imma fan, so no guys I'm sorry we got good vibes in Detroit and I love green but no
Let's all just be honest. Draymond will be traded by next off season.
Draymond would cause problems in most cities, I feel. He's a mouthy dude that most cultures aren't going to put up with as an average talent at best. Perfect time and place with the warriors
If draymond keeps punching teammates he won’t be around lmfao
what's this luv affair with Andrew Wiggins like he's untouchable?
who cares about him like that?
GSW SFs are plug-n-play.
they won with Andre Iguodala at SF. they won with Harrison Barnes at SF. they won with Kevin Durant at SF. and they won with Andrew Wiggins at SF. and as long as you keep Steph-Klay-Dray, they'll win with Moody/Kuminga at SF.
that's the proof.
as for Draymond Green once he leaves the Warriors, they'll get worse. and you'll be able to punk them. he gives them their toughness and swagger.
Dray's passing and defense will still be useful on any other team.
Teams that struggle offensively, don't necessarily need more shooters; they need more playmakers and passers…..that's Draymond Green.
Am I the only one who thinks that Klay was clearly better than Dray these playoffs, and will continue to be that moving forward? I think that both guys should be admired and appreciated regardless of what they try to negotiate, and/or how said negotiations end. That said, if we’re basing things off of recent performances, then Klay’s more deserving IMO. Even with the recent, serious injury-history, he’s the guy I’d overpay (to a point).
It’s not like Draymond hasn’t dealt with his own physical ailments. No, he’s never missed multiple, consecutive seasons (or even one season), but he’s starting to show signs of real wear-and-tear. If he truly wants to stay, then I want him to stay. But if he wants the Warriors to break the bank for him
without vast improvement on his part in this year’s (hopeful) playoff run/repeat-bid, then I’d be sure to give him his flowers on his way out.
It's Klay who will get the boot.
Dray won’t finish now that he punched a teammate
After today, Not anymore
without even listening….
I think we all know who will be shipped out
😂
Crazy this take needed to happen 3 days later
The only reason this is brought up is because of Draymond, and the only guy in question whether he'll be a life long warriors is, Draymond. The team will do whatever to keep Steph, and Klay is too chill to create any situation where team has to trade him.