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Joel Embiid ranks 1st(tied with Ja Morant) in turnovers per game this season, with 4.0. Joel Embiid also ranks tied for 80th in assists per game this season with 3.2.



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[https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA\_2023\_per\_game.html](https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2023_per_game.html)

I know big men aren’t always expected to be the best playmakers, but this is just ridiculous

by RubbleWestbrick

26 Comments

  1. Vip_Pwner

    He is being asked to do everything with a shit roster

  2. He has always had problems with turnovers but can’t really blame him for these last few games when he gets forced to be the ball handler due to the Harden injury and having no backup PG

  3. Wild-Assumption-8732

    Keep that same narrative energy when hes a top 3 mvp candidate yet again

  4. Hendo8888

    Compare his APG to other Centers and he’s doing pretty well

    There’s very few Nikola Jokic types getting around

  5. Every season i hear sixer fans say his passing improved and everytime i watch him i see nothing

  6. cane_the_weaboo

    Every superstar has to adjust to the added defensive attention they receive when they make the jump. It feels like Embiid is the only one who has never truly adjusted to it. He reacts to double teams the same way he did 4 years ago and it makes the Sixers really easy to defend imo.

  7. Irish-Jokic-Stan

    In Embiid’s defence, people always correlate turnovers to passing, but a lot of turnovers are generated by scoring attempts, and post scorers will naturally be turnover prone as they’re constantly having to operate in tight spaces while being swarmed.

    Ewing, Shaq and Olajuwon all averaged more turnovers than assists for their career

  8. Pandoras_Toybox

    This is why you use usage rate to determine if x turnovers is too many.

  9. Prime_KwameBrown215

    He’s honestly at right about his average for turnovers per game. He had 7 tonight to it made it jump but he’s also only played 7 games. He should be fine, I’m more concerned about injury with Joel. He’s so good that you live with all the turnovers.

  10. DurantUsedHarden

    It’s not ridiculous, it’s very standard for big men. Hakeem averaged 2.5AST/3TO for his career, Shaq 2.7AST/3TO. Embiid’s 4AST/3TO last year was probably a little above average for centers.

    If you’re a newer fan it seems off because nearly all superstars these days are wings or guards, and the one other dominant center is one of the most unique players in NBA history.

  11. UnderstandingThis

    Only thing missing is a scapegoat then you have playoff Embiid.

  12. LDcostict

    He’s a big man, he’s not going to have many assist, but the TO’s gotta be taken care of

  13. Outland3r_

    Please tell me again how this guy is the incumbent MVP 😂

  14. AndrewWigginsBurner

    This is exactly why using assist turnover ratio is stupid

  15. geraldoc

    I was dutifully watching to see what sixers news would make it to the top. He’s consistently scoring over 25+, was immense in the game before this and there was nothing. And today there’s this. This sub hates Embiid.

  16. turkmileymileyturk

    It’s dumb to hold turnover stats against high usage players.

  17. 99_Flaming

    Yeah banging in the post and people tryna get their grimy little hands on the ball while you go up you’re going to turn the ball over unless you’re Jokic apparently

  18. Obviously not a good look, but Embiid has also missed a third of our games, so a couple of high turnover games are weighing things a lot more than other players that haven’t missed time.

    Extremely small sample size and if we’re going to use the “hasn’t played enough games” criteria on players with positive stats to withhold them from qualifying, then we also have to do the same for negative situations.

  19. Sapper141

    When you’re in a trying not to hate on Embiid challenge and your opponent is r/nba (Difficulty: Impossible)

  20. Inject any and all Embiid slander into my veins!!! Lol

  21. arenasfan00

    Remember the days of Harden and Westbrook averaging like 6 a game? Lol. What a crazy time.

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