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Ryan, Channing, and Fred sit down with one of the most iconic athletes who just happens to be their long time idol, NBA hall of famer, Isiah Thomas. The original Bad Boy of Detroit Pistons is opening up and talking everything from his relationship with Magic Johnson to Detroit Pistons changing the game to sharing his side of the infamous Michael Jordan feud.
Isiah starts the show saying very simply that he is going to state facts and you can’t argue facts and that it’s one thing to win a championship in the NBA but it’s another to win a championship at every level ever played.
Growing up on the West Side of Chicago, Isiah shares how his upbringing was shaped by his mother’s guidance and a family first mentality where his mother cared more about the type of man he’d become vs the money and opportunity being offered. His mom’s influence was so great, it became her decision where he played college basketball and also who he played for.
Explaining how he ended up in Bloomington, Indiana playing for Bobby Knight, he expounds on the life lessons that shaped him there not just winning back to back collegiate championships.
The West Side of Chicago is home to many activists and organizations such as Fred Hampton, Martin Luther King Jr, and The Black Panther Party. Isiah grew up in this environment and recalls marching alongside his mother with Dr.King. Spearheading change at the national level, Isiah used his local groundwork in Detroit to advocate for Black journalists covering the team, more rights for Black NBA players leaving a greater impact with his legacy not just on the court but in culture.
Isiah makes his case known for why so many people overlook Detroit Pistons as transcending the NBA and shares what the team really did for the league and how they were the firsts to do many things back then setting the example of how teams should be and move.
Known for his historic rivalry with Michael Jordan, Ryan asks what were his thoughts on the way his character was portrayed by Jordan in The Last Dance. Isiah provides The Pivot with an exclusive inside look to his true relationship with MJ and goes on to say that he always looked out for Michael and that their families were even close. He also speaks about how rules within the NBA were changed to protect Michael Jordan. Isaih doesn’t hold back as he shares his thoughts on while he was deemed the a-hole of the NBA when in fact he was the nice guy.
Lastly, Isiah lets the guys in on the history of his and Magic’s close relationship and what led up to their legendary interview. He gives credit to the current legends playing the game such as Lebron James, Stephen Curry, and Kevin Durant, and says they’ve transformed the game in a way we may never see again.
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39 Comments
I love how he always smiles and always a statean🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Part 2 asap. Let's hear some in game / lockeroom stories as well as more mother father sister brother neighborhood playground ect ect. Fascinating interview. Fascinating man.
May God bless and keep Isiah Lord Thomas always.
I never knew Isaiah grew up THAT poor…what a great story
The Pivot is a top 3 podcast in the nation🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I'm happy Isiah got to speak his truth!!! This was a needed interview ❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
One of the many reasons why Mr. Thomas is a better man, person and human than MJ…hands down
great show and questions fellas
I love these dudes. Remember every one of them, but I can’t lie… Fred Taylor is one of my all-time favorites. I was living in Duval county when Fred was at his best!! Good times! God bless you all!
MJ is a Jerk and should be shame of himself… SMH
Let's be honest MJ should have been punched in the mouth because he was a BULLY
This is what you call having receipts… IJS
21:34,that's tha 👓"gaze"👀..,n0t tha 👨❤️👨"gays"🌈!!😂😘😁☺
🔥🔥🔥
Magic Johnson won in high school college and in the pros championships
I grew up in Detroit and a huge fan and still hadn’t heard some of these truths until watching this. Isiah and The Bad Boys are still the best
Lot of revisionist history here. Still interesting to watch
I have a love/hate relationship wit Zeke because of his riff wit Jordan but I respect this dude tho! Respect his game and I’m from Illinois. Lol!
This was really good.
This bitter broad acting like MJ wasn’t dunking on them and getting and1’s
These guy's were listening! In respect
Yo!!! This definitely Chicago! 😂
Zeke🔥🔥🔥 being a Michigan kid( flint) the pistons were everything. Isiah has always been solid. Its great to hear his side of the jordan beef. Get the behind the scenes stuff no one knows. 💪🏾
Earned a new level of love and respect for Zeke watching this interview
Make it make sense 😂
😂 Jordan formed a super team using players from great teams . The brands are who keep that man hyped and the dick suvkin media the brands pay.
TIMESTAMPS PLEASE….
I'm 29. A woman. Black woman if you want to be specific 😉 And I am IN LOVE WITH SPORTS. I just love the history of it. It's a whole lifestyle and entity. Starting my channel soon.
Yes sir… I show my son (a young point guard) tape of Isiah. A true point guard, a leader, a dog. Great show fellas.
Y’all gotta get Mike on the show now!! Y’all get Mike and shut it down!
Zeke is by far my all-time favorite NBA player. He is a little guy who won in the big man era of the league. He beat Bird, Magic and Mike but does not always get the credit he deserves. When I met him in New York years ago and saw his stature I was really blown away and that solidified his greatness to me. He's my GOAT.
Growing up in Chicago, I moved to the Southside from the west side back in 87. My family on the west side looked at us like all of a sudden, we thought we were better than them, and I never knew why.
You mean to tell me what Isaiah Thomas is talking about is why they were hating on us????
Best interview y’all ever had hands down‼️ Zeek 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
I love Isaiah. I’ve always heard of he was 5 to 6 inches taller he would’ve been the GOAT
Stop being dishonest Isiah. Robert Parish smashed Laimbeer in the face in retaliation because the game before that, Laimbeer damn near broke Larry Bird's neck on one of the dirtiest plays in league history. Could've ended Bird's career. Funny how Zeke left that part out
damn I love Isiah Thomas my favorite player when I was a kid and probably the best pure point guard to ever play.
Robert Parrish & Sally didn’t even get any playing time for the bulls 😂 But I loved this interview overall & I rock w/ Zeke… But MJ was on a different level & Isiah is having revisionist history b/c he’s on record speaking about MJ… Now MJ went one against 10 & still gave them the Business… Even when he lost the previous series, MJ still gutted them
Zeke looks harmless, mild mannered, soft spoken but dude is a stone cold killer at heart on the court. Respect 💯💯
One of the top 3 point guards of all time and defensive team
But how was that cool to walk off, but the Bulls shook hands after every series… Nahhh, I can respect it to a certain degree but he’s side stepping & b/c they didn’t implement the Jordan rules? Hmmm 🤔… Everyone/team feels cheated in games