Personally would only sign FVV in free agency and if we don’t, wouldn’t be too fussed
Would rather save the cap space + assets to trade for when an actual star asks out
Also mods, take this down if it breaks the rules 🙂
Ice--O
I could be talked into this, however, Suggs is extremely young and has great defensive intuition. The guy is a competitor. Most importantly, he is super young compared to vanvleet
UTPharm2012
Fuck no
Cilantro_PapiIX
NO
jwil06
Fuck this
Skr8up
Bro get the fuck out of here with fred van vleet. That guy sucks ass. I’d rather take the risk on suggs.
FKKallDAY
Fuck everything about this idea.
Also…..These people trying to clickbait without an actual credible source.
whtge8
I’ll be so mad if we trade Suggs 🙁
maheebrown
Suggs was picked 5th.
legalize69
This is the same guy who said Orl was going to pay WCJ 4/70 instead of 4 years for 50… Doubtful he actually has any sources
JTG01
Nooooope.
comsmocasey84
Noooooooo
rockstarrugger48
Ya we’re going to trade Suggs for a player who can opt out next year.
StanVanGhandi
Are we doing this again guys? We do this every year around the deadline or draft. A bunch of people who make revenue from you clicking on their stories put out a lot of stories and we all overreact. We forget every time who runs our team. Think of the Vuch trade. Remember the draft? Remember all our players being hurt forever until they weren’t?
No talking head, no article, no dweeb with a Twitter who likes to ruin draft picks before they are picked, knows what magic management is going to do. They don’t say anything, even when asked directly. It’s kind of their thing.
jcast59
This guys sources are people like KoC and Simmons saying this would be a great move on their podcasts. Remember this front office doesn’t really leak shit.
I’d lose a ton of faith in WeltHam if we give up on the next Marcus Smart for an undersized pg who’s already peaked and is about to demand a 9 figure contract. Doesn’t matchup with the rest of our teams timeline at all.
EndTyrannyNow
God I hope this is NOT true. The last thing we need is an aging, inconsistent shooting PG who wants 30 million p/y next year. I just can’t see our front office doing this kind of deal.
HeadlessShinobi
God Raptors fans are already being obnoxious assholes in the comments. Talking shit about us tanking and not being a free agent destination, like anyone wants to live in bum ass Toronto lol.
DrewBreesAteMyFamily
I swear if we trade for van vleets bum ass ima be so mad
LiveFromFLORIDA
No
Herban_Myth
Hard pass.
lil_thirdy
Aint suprised that its a raptor fan spreading out this rumor from a bs source lmao
WaDaMisTaKe
We already got dollar store FVV in Cole Anthony
wouldntknowever
I’d do it for Chuma considering he’s often injured and doesn’t play anyway, but not Suggs.
u-and-whose-army
The only way i’d trade for FVV is for something like Cole/Bamba/Ross and he guarantees an extension with us or something. Even then, I like Cole and FVV is aging.
Embarrassed-Tap-4489
If and I mean big IF we make this trade it screams ownership fucking us over again like when we did that ibaka and Harris trade
elfridpaytonshair
Please no
Braden_Survivor
fuck no
RandomPMs
I wouldn’t mind FVV, our timeline is quicker than we thought it would be be given how awesome Franz and Paolo already are, and maybe we’ll get another stud in the draft this year. He’s not as productive this year but he’s a competitive player who would be great to continue building a winning culture.
The only caveat is they aren’t getting anything of value. No Paolo, Franz, Bol Bol, WCJ, Suggs, or Fultz, and you’re not getting a first-round pick for him unless it’s something like 2026 or later when we’ll probably be competing for a top seed.
Smmoove
I wouldn’t be surprised if we had 0 interest in FVV to begin with, and are just being used as leverage/looming bogeyman to try and inflate his value.
If you were Masai and you wanted to drum up FVV’s value so you can trade him before he hits unrestricted free agency since you don’t want to pay him.
1. Saying X team has plans to make a huge offer in the off-season will spur other teams into making a deal in advance to get his bird rights and a handshake deal in place.
2. How do you decide X team? Well, first just look at the teams who will have cap room and then of those who could plausibly be interested in a guard. AKA Orlando.
3. Wait a couple of weeks and then right before the deadline try to give the impression there is a bidding war happening. You start throwing out some semi-plausible names to try and push the price up. Say Suggs or Markelle is on the table. They know we don’t really do counter-leaks, and if it gets repeated enough without contradicting intel, reporters will start acting as if it’s fact (see: Jabari Smith).
4. If I had to guess, VanVleet has his eyes on the Clippers and Suns, and the Suns have significant mutual interest. He posted a cryptic picture of him and Booker a few weeks ago, and Phoenix calling around about CP3 makes me think they plan to try and swap him for FVV (or reroute elsewhere in a 3 teamer).
5. Otherwise, they might try to dump him for some picks, which frees up space to sign FVV in the off-season if Toronto tries to play hard ball at the deadline. Likewise there is buzz about Clippers trying to shed contracts, which doesn’t make sense given where they are – unless they are trying to create cap room to sign FVV outright since Masai is notorious for being difficult to trade with.
6. My prediction is Masai will play hard ball and end up not trading FVV at the deadline (just like what happened with Lowry) and end up settling for pennies on the dollar in a sign and trade.
LR_Mango
I hope LA get fvv, just not to read this magic trade rumors anymore. He is actually a good player, but it just don’t feels right in this squad we have running.
LilAnswer
This sounds like a clear “driving the price up” strategy
joseph1105
Don’t think Fvv is someone we want long term. He’s gonna want a big contract and has shit defense.
NorthConsequence4737
As soon as I saw raptors fan as the OP I knew it was yet another case of raptors delusion syndrome
OrlCitySun12
Media literacy is important. Unless it comes from a true professional source it’s total BS. Don’t waste your precious time on rumors
MDL6
Matt Moore does not have sources lol. And he definitely isn’t guy who all of the sudden has Orlando sources.
myBSisuseless
Hell no, FVV is overrated and over priced
IrwinMFletcher
This is click-bait trash!
JamesHollers
Orlando isn’t going after him. He’s not a big enough fish. Toronto is trying to get someone to bit since it “appears” Orlando “needs” a PG and have a lot of money.
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I don’t want to move Suggs for FVV.
Personally would only sign FVV in free agency and if we don’t, wouldn’t be too fussed
Would rather save the cap space + assets to trade for when an actual star asks out
Also mods, take this down if it breaks the rules 🙂
I could be talked into this, however, Suggs is extremely young and has great defensive intuition. The guy is a competitor. Most importantly, he is super young compared to vanvleet
Fuck no
NO
Fuck this
Bro get the fuck out of here with fred van vleet. That guy sucks ass. I’d rather take the risk on suggs.
Fuck everything about this idea.
Also…..These people trying to clickbait without an actual credible source.
I’ll be so mad if we trade Suggs 🙁
Suggs was picked 5th.
This is the same guy who said Orl was going to pay WCJ 4/70 instead of 4 years for 50… Doubtful he actually has any sources
Nooooope.
Noooooooo
Ya we’re going to trade Suggs for a player who can opt out next year.
Are we doing this again guys? We do this every year around the deadline or draft. A bunch of people who make revenue from you clicking on their stories put out a lot of stories and we all overreact. We forget every time who runs our team. Think of the Vuch trade. Remember the draft? Remember all our players being hurt forever until they weren’t?
No talking head, no article, no dweeb with a Twitter who likes to ruin draft picks before they are picked, knows what magic management is going to do. They don’t say anything, even when asked directly. It’s kind of their thing.
This guys sources are people like KoC and Simmons saying this would be a great move on their podcasts. Remember this front office doesn’t really leak shit.
I’d lose a ton of faith in WeltHam if we give up on the next Marcus Smart for an undersized pg who’s already peaked and is about to demand a 9 figure contract. Doesn’t matchup with the rest of our teams timeline at all.
God I hope this is NOT true. The last thing we need is an aging, inconsistent shooting PG who wants 30 million p/y next year. I just can’t see our front office doing this kind of deal.
God Raptors fans are already being obnoxious assholes in the comments. Talking shit about us tanking and not being a free agent destination, like anyone wants to live in bum ass Toronto lol.
I swear if we trade for van vleets bum ass ima be so mad
No
Hard pass.
Aint suprised that its a raptor fan spreading out this rumor from a bs source lmao
We already got dollar store FVV in Cole Anthony
I’d do it for Chuma considering he’s often injured and doesn’t play anyway, but not Suggs.
The only way i’d trade for FVV is for something like Cole/Bamba/Ross and he guarantees an extension with us or something. Even then, I like Cole and FVV is aging.
If and I mean big IF we make this trade it screams ownership fucking us over again like when we did that ibaka and Harris trade
Please no
fuck no
I wouldn’t mind FVV, our timeline is quicker than we thought it would be be given how awesome Franz and Paolo already are, and maybe we’ll get another stud in the draft this year. He’s not as productive this year but he’s a competitive player who would be great to continue building a winning culture.
The only caveat is they aren’t getting anything of value. No Paolo, Franz, Bol Bol, WCJ, Suggs, or Fultz, and you’re not getting a first-round pick for him unless it’s something like 2026 or later when we’ll probably be competing for a top seed.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we had 0 interest in FVV to begin with, and are just being used as leverage/looming bogeyman to try and inflate his value.
If you were Masai and you wanted to drum up FVV’s value so you can trade him before he hits unrestricted free agency since you don’t want to pay him.
1. Saying X team has plans to make a huge offer in the off-season will spur other teams into making a deal in advance to get his bird rights and a handshake deal in place.
2. How do you decide X team? Well, first just look at the teams who will have cap room and then of those who could plausibly be interested in a guard. AKA Orlando.
3. Wait a couple of weeks and then right before the deadline try to give the impression there is a bidding war happening. You start throwing out some semi-plausible names to try and push the price up. Say Suggs or Markelle is on the table. They know we don’t really do counter-leaks, and if it gets repeated enough without contradicting intel, reporters will start acting as if it’s fact (see: Jabari Smith).
4. If I had to guess, VanVleet has his eyes on the Clippers and Suns, and the Suns have significant mutual interest. He posted a cryptic picture of him and Booker a few weeks ago, and Phoenix calling around about CP3 makes me think they plan to try and swap him for FVV (or reroute elsewhere in a 3 teamer).
5. Otherwise, they might try to dump him for some picks, which frees up space to sign FVV in the off-season if Toronto tries to play hard ball at the deadline. Likewise there is buzz about Clippers trying to shed contracts, which doesn’t make sense given where they are – unless they are trying to create cap room to sign FVV outright since Masai is notorious for being difficult to trade with.
6. My prediction is Masai will play hard ball and end up not trading FVV at the deadline (just like what happened with Lowry) and end up settling for pennies on the dollar in a sign and trade.
I hope LA get fvv, just not to read this magic trade rumors anymore.
He is actually a good player, but it just don’t feels right in this squad we have running.
This sounds like a clear “driving the price up” strategy
Don’t think Fvv is someone we want long term. He’s gonna want a big contract and has shit defense.
As soon as I saw raptors fan as the OP I knew it was yet another case of raptors delusion syndrome
Media literacy is important. Unless it comes from a true professional source it’s total BS. Don’t waste your precious time on rumors
Matt Moore does not have sources lol. And he definitely isn’t guy who all of the sudden has Orlando sources.
Hell no, FVV is overrated and over priced
This is click-bait trash!
Orlando isn’t going after him. He’s not a big enough fish. Toronto is trying to get someone to bit since it “appears” Orlando “needs” a PG and have a lot of money.
